could this possibly be real? page 1
oblivion
10th February 2012, 07:59 PM
Father Teaches Daughter Lesson About Facebook - YouTube
I keep thinking parody for some reason.
I keep thinking parody for some reason.
Jerome
10th February 2012, 08:09 PM
60/40
ericv00
10th February 2012, 08:16 PM
Grew up in southern Virginia.
Going with true.
Going with true.
divagreen
10th February 2012, 08:40 PM
Pretty sure it is true.
Adenosine
10th February 2012, 11:27 PM
Going with true and he's an asshole.
Skeeve
11th February 2012, 01:23 AM
Real
http://www.litefm.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=421220&article=9744152
While we appreciate the interest you're all putting forth to get in touch with us regarding the video, we're not going to go on your talk show, not going to call in to your radio show, and not going to be in your TV mini-series.
Some of you think I made an acceptable parenting decision and others think I didn't. However, I can't think of any way myself or my daughter can ...respond to a media outlet that won't be twisted out of context. The Dallas news TV news already showed that in their brief 5 minute interview with the psychologist.
Additionally, there's absolutely NO way I'm going to send my child the message that it's OK to gain from something like this. It would send her a message that it's OK to profit at the expense of someone else's embarrassment or misfortune and that's now how I was raised, nor how she has been raised.
http://www.litefm.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=421220&article=9744152
While we appreciate the interest you're all putting forth to get in touch with us regarding the video, we're not going to go on your talk show, not going to call in to your radio show, and not going to be in your TV mini-series.
Some of you think I made an acceptable parenting decision and others think I didn't. However, I can't think of any way myself or my daughter can ...respond to a media outlet that won't be twisted out of context. The Dallas news TV news already showed that in their brief 5 minute interview with the psychologist.
Additionally, there's absolutely NO way I'm going to send my child the message that it's OK to gain from something like this. It would send her a message that it's OK to profit at the expense of someone else's embarrassment or misfortune and that's now how I was raised, nor how she has been raised.
nostrum
11th February 2012, 04:06 AM
:staregonk:
Free Falling
11th February 2012, 04:29 AM
Uh yea, guns and bullets are the way to make a point when a teenaged drama queen cusses a bit and whines about chores. Why didn't I think while my daughter was still a teen.
Fuzzy
11th February 2012, 06:35 PM
:rofl:
That's hilarious. Totally out of proportion and the daughter needs to get away from that psycho as fast as possible, but I can't stop laughing.
That's hilarious. Totally out of proportion and the daughter needs to get away from that psycho as fast as possible, but I can't stop laughing.
borealis
11th February 2012, 06:52 PM
People elsewhere have been saying the daughter is a spoiled brat who 'deserved it'. No one seems to be pointing out the dad is a tantrummy spoiled brat who apparently has more money than brains if he thinks destroying an expensive piece of technology, either with a gun or an ax or by stomping it into a heap of crushed plastic, is a way to demonstrate how much 'better' he is than his daughter. Arse.
Also: lots of gunz drama. "we support your right to shoot your teenager's computer! fifth amendment! freedom! gunz don't kill computers, people do!" how stupid.
Also: lots of gunz drama. "we support your right to shoot your teenager's computer! fifth amendment! freedom! gunz don't kill computers, people do!" how stupid.
Jerome
11th February 2012, 09:29 PM
Is this OK?
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borealis
11th February 2012, 09:45 PM
Not imo, jerome. Since when does shaming your kids help change their attitudes? All it does is make parents feel self righteous and further alienate the kids. Also publicly demonstrates that you are a shitty parent.
Teshi
11th February 2012, 09:53 PM
It's easy to see how the daughter turned out to be a melodramatic drama queen...apple doesn't fall far from the tree, I guess. It was funny, though!
All the fussing both ways about USING A GUN seems pretty goofy to me, TBH. It's the same story with a gun or a crowbar or a booted foot or whatever. The gun made it funnier because it was over-the-top and unexpected, which was the point, I think.
All the fussing both ways about USING A GUN seems pretty goofy to me, TBH. It's the same story with a gun or a crowbar or a booted foot or whatever. The gun made it funnier because it was over-the-top and unexpected, which was the point, I think.
Mantisdreamz
11th February 2012, 11:19 PM
Dunno, this video kind of makes my blood boil a bit. gah! >:[
Because, if he's trying to prove a lesson, what is it? I guess he's showing that he can easily take away something from his daughter if she wants to act spoiled. But the whole putting it on youtube to embarrass her, is terrible.
Because, if he's trying to prove a lesson, what is it? I guess he's showing that he can easily take away something from his daughter if she wants to act spoiled. But the whole putting it on youtube to embarrass her, is terrible.
PermanentlyEphemeral
11th February 2012, 11:34 PM
There's one question he has to ask himself.
Do I want her to visit at Christmas when she grows up?
Do I want her to visit at Christmas when she grows up?
Gallstones
12th February 2012, 05:51 AM
I don't think this is a big deal nor am I "alarmed".
Is it because he used........a gun!
So what?
Is it because he used........a gun!
So what?
Gallstones
12th February 2012, 06:16 AM
There's one question he has to ask himself.
Do I want her to visit at Christmas when she grows up?
My father doesn't want me to visit him--ever.
We live in the same town and he pretends he doesn't see me when we run into each other. If he can't pretend he doesn't see me he treats me like a familiar acquaintance at most.
Do I want her to visit at Christmas when she grows up?
My father doesn't want me to visit him--ever.
We live in the same town and he pretends he doesn't see me when we run into each other. If he can't pretend he doesn't see me he treats me like a familiar acquaintance at most.
oblivion
12th February 2012, 06:22 AM
I don't think this is a big deal nor am I "alarmed".
Is it because he used........a gun!
So what?
Not really. It was more the absurdity of a drama queen dad having a such hissy fit over what a drama queen his daughter has turned out to be. She's in her teens. It's not surprising. He appeared to be in his 40s.
specifically how he destroyed the laptop was a minor bit of theater.
Is it because he used........a gun!
So what?
Not really. It was more the absurdity of a drama queen dad having a such hissy fit over what a drama queen his daughter has turned out to be. She's in her teens. It's not surprising. He appeared to be in his 40s.
specifically how he destroyed the laptop was a minor bit of theater.
Mantisdreamz
12th February 2012, 11:19 AM
I don't think this is a big deal nor am I "alarmed".
Is it because he used........a gun!
So what?
Because guns shouldn't be used in everyday life, to show discipline. (And maybe this is just an over the top thing). But wanting to show power along with using guns, makes me freaked out.
Is it because he used........a gun!
So what?
Because guns shouldn't be used in everyday life, to show discipline. (And maybe this is just an over the top thing). But wanting to show power along with using guns, makes me freaked out.
Exi5tentialist
12th February 2012, 11:50 AM
I equate the shooting to a personal injury. To shoot anything belong to his daughter would be a personal injury; in my book there is no easily-defined boundary between the person and the things they have a relationship with. He shot her; I do not think the relationship will go well from now on. I suspect her complaints on facebook were motivated by more injuries in the past than just having to do chores.
Jerome
12th February 2012, 01:35 PM
; in my book there is no easily-defined boundary between the person and the things they have a relationship with.
Are you serious?
Are you serious?
Exi5tentialist
12th February 2012, 01:44 PM
; in my book there is no easily-defined boundary between the person and the things they have a relationship with.
Are you serious?
oh dear
Are you serious?
oh dear
nick
12th February 2012, 01:50 PM
Your face is about to have a relationship with my fist.
Grumps
12th February 2012, 01:54 PM
I don't think this is a big deal nor am I "alarmed".
Is it because he used........a gun!
So what?
Because it's tantrum throwing.
If he has to shoot it to make a point, he's just a whining cunt and not at all approaching the matter in a calm, rational way.
Is it because he used........a gun!
So what?
Because it's tantrum throwing.
If he has to shoot it to make a point, he's just a whining cunt and not at all approaching the matter in a calm, rational way.
Exi5tentialist
12th February 2012, 03:01 PM
If he has to shoot it to make a point, he's just a whining cunt and not at all approaching the matter in a calm, rational way.
It would be better if he were less calm and rational I think. If on reading his daughter's words he had thrown a different kind of drama queen fit and shouted at her instead (with the proviso that she is perfectly entitled to shout back) then I think they would have reached a better mutual understanding in the longer run. Instead he went down the exterminator route - overly calm, overly rational, and firing a gun into the middle of their relationship. This does not augur well for the future of their little happy family.
It would be better if he were less calm and rational I think. If on reading his daughter's words he had thrown a different kind of drama queen fit and shouted at her instead (with the proviso that she is perfectly entitled to shout back) then I think they would have reached a better mutual understanding in the longer run. Instead he went down the exterminator route - overly calm, overly rational, and firing a gun into the middle of their relationship. This does not augur well for the future of their little happy family.
Exi5tentialist
12th February 2012, 03:02 PM
Your face is about to have a relationship with my fist.
That's not my face. :]
That's not my face. :]
Grumps
12th February 2012, 03:31 PM
If he has to shoot it to make a point, he's just a whining cunt and not at all approaching the matter in a calm, rational way.
It would be better if he were less calm and rational I think. If on reading his daughter's words he had thrown a different kind of drama queen fit and shouted at her instead (with the proviso that she is perfectly entitled to shout back) then I think they would have reached a better mutual understanding in the longer run. Instead he went down the exterminator route - overly calm, overly rational, and firing a gun into the middle of their relationship. This does not augur well for the future of their little happy family.
Wait.. so the overly calm and overly rational response is to shoot something?
How about no. It's resorting to violence to resolve a problem, the only reason it looks so 'calm' is because he had access to a gun, which made it easy. Replace that with a machete and you'd realise just how uncalm he's really being.
It would be better if he were less calm and rational I think. If on reading his daughter's words he had thrown a different kind of drama queen fit and shouted at her instead (with the proviso that she is perfectly entitled to shout back) then I think they would have reached a better mutual understanding in the longer run. Instead he went down the exterminator route - overly calm, overly rational, and firing a gun into the middle of their relationship. This does not augur well for the future of their little happy family.
Wait.. so the overly calm and overly rational response is to shoot something?
How about no. It's resorting to violence to resolve a problem, the only reason it looks so 'calm' is because he had access to a gun, which made it easy. Replace that with a machete and you'd realise just how uncalm he's really being.
Exi5tentialist
12th February 2012, 03:56 PM
If he has to shoot it to make a point, he's just a whining cunt and not at all approaching the matter in a calm, rational way.
It would be better if he were less calm and rational I think. If on reading his daughter's words he had thrown a different kind of drama queen fit and shouted at her instead (with the proviso that she is perfectly entitled to shout back) then I think they would have reached a better mutual understanding in the longer run. Instead he went down the exterminator route - overly calm, overly rational, and firing a gun into the middle of their relationship. This does not augur well for the future of their little happy family.
Wait.. so the overly calm and overly rational response is to shoot something?
How about no. It's resorting to violence to resolve a problem, the only reason it looks so 'calm' is because he had access to a gun, which made it easy. Replace that with a machete and you'd realise just how uncalm he's really being.
Note the word 'overly'. It denotes a perceived inauthenticity that may not be obvious to the very grumpy.
It would be better if he were less calm and rational I think. If on reading his daughter's words he had thrown a different kind of drama queen fit and shouted at her instead (with the proviso that she is perfectly entitled to shout back) then I think they would have reached a better mutual understanding in the longer run. Instead he went down the exterminator route - overly calm, overly rational, and firing a gun into the middle of their relationship. This does not augur well for the future of their little happy family.
Wait.. so the overly calm and overly rational response is to shoot something?
How about no. It's resorting to violence to resolve a problem, the only reason it looks so 'calm' is because he had access to a gun, which made it easy. Replace that with a machete and you'd realise just how uncalm he's really being.
Note the word 'overly'. It denotes a perceived inauthenticity that may not be obvious to the very grumpy.
Gallstones
12th February 2012, 04:51 PM
What do we know?
A guy made a video.
He claims to have a daughter.
He claims the daughter exhibited behavior.
He claims to not like the behavior.
He shoots an object.
He claims the object is a laptop.
We do not know that anything he claims in the video is true.
The whole thing--short of what we observe--could be scripted.
Could be performance art.
We do not know this man, will probably never meet him.
Nothing that happens in the video has any personal import or applicability to the personal lives of the video's audience.
This will pass and something new will rise to the top of the news cycle for people to get upset about as if their feelings about it should be law.
A guy made a video.
He claims to have a daughter.
He claims the daughter exhibited behavior.
He claims to not like the behavior.
He shoots an object.
He claims the object is a laptop.
We do not know that anything he claims in the video is true.
The whole thing--short of what we observe--could be scripted.
Could be performance art.
We do not know this man, will probably never meet him.
Nothing that happens in the video has any personal import or applicability to the personal lives of the video's audience.
This will pass and something new will rise to the top of the news cycle for people to get upset about as if their feelings about it should be law.
divagreen
12th February 2012, 05:40 PM
What do we know?
A guy made a video.
He claims to have a daughter.
He claims the daughter exhibited behavior.
He claims to not like the behavior.
He shoots an object.
He claims the object is a laptop.
We do not know that anything he claims in the video is true.
The whole thing--short of what we observe--could be scripted.
Could be performance art.
We do not know this man, will probably never meet him.
Nothing that happens in the video has any personal import or applicability to the personal lives of the video's audience.
This will pass and something new will rise to the top of the news cycle for people to get upset about as if their feelings about it should be law.
Real
http://www.litefm.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=421220&article=9744152
While we appreciate the interest you're all putting forth to get in touch with us regarding the video, we're not going to go on your talk show, not going to call in to your radio show, and not going to be in your TV mini-series.
Some of you think I made an acceptable parenting decision and others think I didn't. However, I can't think of any way myself or my daughter can ...respond to a media outlet that won't be twisted out of context. The Dallas news TV news already showed that in their brief 5 minute interview with the psychologist.
Additionally, there's absolutely NO way I'm going to send my child the message that it's OK to gain from something like this. It would send her a message that it's OK to profit at the expense of someone else's embarrassment or misfortune and that's now how I was raised, nor how she has been raised.
:nada:
A guy made a video.
He claims to have a daughter.
He claims the daughter exhibited behavior.
He claims to not like the behavior.
He shoots an object.
He claims the object is a laptop.
We do not know that anything he claims in the video is true.
The whole thing--short of what we observe--could be scripted.
Could be performance art.
We do not know this man, will probably never meet him.
Nothing that happens in the video has any personal import or applicability to the personal lives of the video's audience.
This will pass and something new will rise to the top of the news cycle for people to get upset about as if their feelings about it should be law.
Real
http://www.litefm.com/cc-common/mainheadlines3.html?feed=421220&article=9744152
While we appreciate the interest you're all putting forth to get in touch with us regarding the video, we're not going to go on your talk show, not going to call in to your radio show, and not going to be in your TV mini-series.
Some of you think I made an acceptable parenting decision and others think I didn't. However, I can't think of any way myself or my daughter can ...respond to a media outlet that won't be twisted out of context. The Dallas news TV news already showed that in their brief 5 minute interview with the psychologist.
Additionally, there's absolutely NO way I'm going to send my child the message that it's OK to gain from something like this. It would send her a message that it's OK to profit at the expense of someone else's embarrassment or misfortune and that's now how I was raised, nor how she has been raised.
:nada:
Gallstones
12th February 2012, 05:45 PM
Ok thanks.
Still, taking anything from it as if it is a personal affront--or threat(!?) is just not rational.
Still, taking anything from it as if it is a personal affront--or threat(!?) is just not rational.
Gallstones
12th February 2012, 05:57 PM
People elsewhere have been saying the daughter is a spoiled brat who 'deserved it'. No one seems to be pointing out the dad is a tantrummy spoiled brat who apparently has more money than brains if he thinks destroying an expensive piece of technology, either with a gun or an ax or by stomping it into a heap of crushed plastic, is a way to demonstrate how much 'better' he is than his daughter. Arse.
Also: lots of gunz drama. "we support your right to shoot your teenager's computer! fifth amendment! freedom! gunz don't kill computers, people do!" how stupid.
This statement is pretty stupid too.
BTW, it's Second Amendment.
And I have yet to hear a convincing argument as to why we in the US should not value and hold to our Bill of Rights.
Even outside the US, I venture to speculate that a person can do with his property what he wishes. That a person does with that property something in a manner that another person does not like it done--for whatever reason--is a non issue.
Also: lots of gunz drama. "we support your right to shoot your teenager's computer! fifth amendment! freedom! gunz don't kill computers, people do!" how stupid.
This statement is pretty stupid too.
BTW, it's Second Amendment.
And I have yet to hear a convincing argument as to why we in the US should not value and hold to our Bill of Rights.
Even outside the US, I venture to speculate that a person can do with his property what he wishes. That a person does with that property something in a manner that another person does not like it done--for whatever reason--is a non issue.
Gallstones
12th February 2012, 05:59 PM
Not imo, jerome. Since when does shaming your kids help change their attitudes? All it does is make parents feel self righteous and further alienate the kids. Also publicly demonstrates that you are a shitty parent.
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
borealis
12th February 2012, 06:26 PM
People elsewhere have been saying the daughter is a spoiled brat who 'deserved it'. No one seems to be pointing out the dad is a tantrummy spoiled brat who apparently has more money than brains if he thinks destroying an expensive piece of technology, either with a gun or an ax or by stomping it into a heap of crushed plastic, is a way to demonstrate how much 'better' he is than his daughter. Arse.
Also: lots of gunz drama. "we support your right to shoot your teenager's computer! fifth amendment! freedom! gunz don't kill computers, people do!" how stupid.
This statement is pretty stupid too.
BTW, it's Second Amendment.
And I have yet to hear a convincing argument as to why we in the US should not value and hold to our Bill of Rights.
Even outside the US, I venture to speculate that a person can do with his property what he wishes. That a person does with that property something in a manner that another person does not like it done--for whatever reason--is a non issue.
Second, third, whatever. I'm not an American.
Before you get yer gunz drama on, please note I said "either with a gun or an ax or by stomping it into a heap of crushed plastic"
And you reacted just the same way every other 'touchy about the guns' person seems to. You don't look at the interaction, the violence, the instability, the bad message - if there was a gun involved, "Wal, feller musta bin within his Rights".
You can value your BoR as much as you like. But if 'gun rights' is all you see in this interaction between a father and daughter, then you've blinded yourself to everything else on that BoR.
I don't give a shit about guns, tbh. We have plenty of guns here - most of the households around me have guns - but we don't regard them as Sacred Objects.
It's a non issue for you? I personally think it's in the interests of the community when parents act like violent assholes and teach their children to grow up as the same kind of violent assholes. Takes a village, man.
Also: lots of gunz drama. "we support your right to shoot your teenager's computer! fifth amendment! freedom! gunz don't kill computers, people do!" how stupid.
This statement is pretty stupid too.
BTW, it's Second Amendment.
And I have yet to hear a convincing argument as to why we in the US should not value and hold to our Bill of Rights.
Even outside the US, I venture to speculate that a person can do with his property what he wishes. That a person does with that property something in a manner that another person does not like it done--for whatever reason--is a non issue.
Second, third, whatever. I'm not an American.
Before you get yer gunz drama on, please note I said "either with a gun or an ax or by stomping it into a heap of crushed plastic"
And you reacted just the same way every other 'touchy about the guns' person seems to. You don't look at the interaction, the violence, the instability, the bad message - if there was a gun involved, "Wal, feller musta bin within his Rights".
You can value your BoR as much as you like. But if 'gun rights' is all you see in this interaction between a father and daughter, then you've blinded yourself to everything else on that BoR.
I don't give a shit about guns, tbh. We have plenty of guns here - most of the households around me have guns - but we don't regard them as Sacred Objects.
It's a non issue for you? I personally think it's in the interests of the community when parents act like violent assholes and teach their children to grow up as the same kind of violent assholes. Takes a village, man.
borealis
12th February 2012, 06:30 PM
Not imo, jerome. Since when does shaming your kids help change their attitudes? All it does is make parents feel self righteous and further alienate the kids. Also publicly demonstrates that you are a shitty parent.
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
I worked with mostly poor city kids for over thirty years, and ime, shitty parents raise shitty kids. Good parents raise good kids. Rarely, you get kids with mental/emotional issues that need care from the health and education systems. None of those kids would have benefitted from the kind of cheap self righteous shaming demonstrated by those signs.
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
I worked with mostly poor city kids for over thirty years, and ime, shitty parents raise shitty kids. Good parents raise good kids. Rarely, you get kids with mental/emotional issues that need care from the health and education systems. None of those kids would have benefitted from the kind of cheap self righteous shaming demonstrated by those signs.
dug
12th February 2012, 06:34 PM
Who cares if it's real.
It's fucking retarded like most things people do on the internet.
It's fucking retarded like most things people do on the internet.
Gallstones
12th February 2012, 06:54 PM
Not imo, jerome. Since when does shaming your kids help change their attitudes? All it does is make parents feel self righteous and further alienate the kids. Also publicly demonstrates that you are a shitty parent.
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
I worked with mostly poor city kids for over thirty years, and ime, shitty parents raise shitty kids. Good parents raise good kids. Rarely, you get kids with mental/emotional issues that need care from the health and education systems. None of those kids would have benefitted from the kind of cheap self righteous shaming demonstrated by those signs.
I have family members who were given every consideration, and they remained shitty--criminal even--all their lives, despite honorable and loving parenting. They screwed their parents the most.
And if a one of them shows up on my doorstep I will meet them with the shotgun. If that makes me look gun nut crazy to them, then it will have served the purpose.
Some people are inherently criminal and even perfect parenting--whatever that is--can't fix it.
Shitty parents raise productive, decent kids too--the kids are partly responsible for how they turn out. Temperament, and support matter more than the nuances of parenting. Support can come from anywhere.
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
I worked with mostly poor city kids for over thirty years, and ime, shitty parents raise shitty kids. Good parents raise good kids. Rarely, you get kids with mental/emotional issues that need care from the health and education systems. None of those kids would have benefitted from the kind of cheap self righteous shaming demonstrated by those signs.
I have family members who were given every consideration, and they remained shitty--criminal even--all their lives, despite honorable and loving parenting. They screwed their parents the most.
And if a one of them shows up on my doorstep I will meet them with the shotgun. If that makes me look gun nut crazy to them, then it will have served the purpose.
Some people are inherently criminal and even perfect parenting--whatever that is--can't fix it.
Shitty parents raise productive, decent kids too--the kids are partly responsible for how they turn out. Temperament, and support matter more than the nuances of parenting. Support can come from anywhere.
Gallstones
12th February 2012, 06:55 PM
Shame works on some people.
It worked on me instantaneously.
There were some things I deserved to be ashamed of.
It worked on me instantaneously.
There were some things I deserved to be ashamed of.
Gallstones
12th February 2012, 07:09 PM
People elsewhere have been saying the daughter is a spoiled brat who 'deserved it'. No one seems to be pointing out the dad is a tantrummy spoiled brat who apparently has more money than brains if he thinks destroying an expensive piece of technology, either with a gun or an ax or by stomping it into a heap of crushed plastic, is a way to demonstrate how much 'better' he is than his daughter. Arse.
Also: lots of gunz drama. "we support your right to shoot your teenager's computer! fifth amendment! freedom! gunz don't kill computers, people do!" how stupid.
This statement is pretty stupid too.
BTW, it's Second Amendment.
And I have yet to hear a convincing argument as to why we in the US should not value and hold to our Bill of Rights.
Even outside the US, I venture to speculate that a person can do with his property what he wishes. That a person does with that property something in a manner that another person does not like it done--for whatever reason--is a non issue.
Second, third, whatever. I'm not an American. Regardless, if you are going to use it in your argument you should try and be accurate. Lends more credibility to at least look like you know your facts.
Before you get yer gunz drama on,Is that what I'm gonna do? Seems to me all the gun drama comes from those who fear them.
please note I said "either with a gun or an ax or by stomping it into a heap of crushed plastic" His property. He can do with it as he pleases.
And you reacted just the same way every other 'touchy about the guns' person seems to. You don't look at the interaction, the violence, the instability, the bad message - if there was a gun involved, "Wal, feller musta bin within his Rights". I just don't see violence and I don't assume instability just because a person lawfully destroys his own property with a lawfully owned tool. I thought the accusation is that guns were only intended for killing people--looks like they have other uses.
You can value your BoR as much as you like. Thank you. Now that I have your permission I shall go off and have a fun day of doing just that. Many candles to light, many mantras to recite hallelujah.
But if 'gun rights' is all you see in this interaction between a father and daughter, then you've blinded yourself to everything else on that BoR. I see Parent rights in this interaction, except for one thing, the daughter isn't even physically present.
I don't give a shit about guns, tbh. We have plenty of guns here - most of the households around me have guns - but we don't regard them as Sacred Objects. Did I say that guns are sacred? The only thing "sacred" is that my government can't take mine from me.
It's a non issue for you? I personally think it's in the interests of the community when parents act like violent assholes and teach their children to grow up as the same kind of violent assholes. Takes a village, man.I bet his neighbors are better informed and introduced to this guy and his family and know him better on a personal level than any armchair spectator from the internet.
Perhaps you might interview the community in which this man and his daughter live to see if they see violence and instability in him and what he did. It looks to me as if you think the whole world should see things as you do, think as you do--or even worse--that they should.
Also: lots of gunz drama. "we support your right to shoot your teenager's computer! fifth amendment! freedom! gunz don't kill computers, people do!" how stupid.
This statement is pretty stupid too.
BTW, it's Second Amendment.
And I have yet to hear a convincing argument as to why we in the US should not value and hold to our Bill of Rights.
Even outside the US, I venture to speculate that a person can do with his property what he wishes. That a person does with that property something in a manner that another person does not like it done--for whatever reason--is a non issue.
Second, third, whatever. I'm not an American. Regardless, if you are going to use it in your argument you should try and be accurate. Lends more credibility to at least look like you know your facts.
Before you get yer gunz drama on,Is that what I'm gonna do? Seems to me all the gun drama comes from those who fear them.
please note I said "either with a gun or an ax or by stomping it into a heap of crushed plastic" His property. He can do with it as he pleases.
And you reacted just the same way every other 'touchy about the guns' person seems to. You don't look at the interaction, the violence, the instability, the bad message - if there was a gun involved, "Wal, feller musta bin within his Rights". I just don't see violence and I don't assume instability just because a person lawfully destroys his own property with a lawfully owned tool. I thought the accusation is that guns were only intended for killing people--looks like they have other uses.
You can value your BoR as much as you like. Thank you. Now that I have your permission I shall go off and have a fun day of doing just that. Many candles to light, many mantras to recite hallelujah.
But if 'gun rights' is all you see in this interaction between a father and daughter, then you've blinded yourself to everything else on that BoR. I see Parent rights in this interaction, except for one thing, the daughter isn't even physically present.
I don't give a shit about guns, tbh. We have plenty of guns here - most of the households around me have guns - but we don't regard them as Sacred Objects. Did I say that guns are sacred? The only thing "sacred" is that my government can't take mine from me.
It's a non issue for you? I personally think it's in the interests of the community when parents act like violent assholes and teach their children to grow up as the same kind of violent assholes. Takes a village, man.I bet his neighbors are better informed and introduced to this guy and his family and know him better on a personal level than any armchair spectator from the internet.
Perhaps you might interview the community in which this man and his daughter live to see if they see violence and instability in him and what he did. It looks to me as if you think the whole world should see things as you do, think as you do--or even worse--that they should.
Mantisdreamz
12th February 2012, 11:51 PM
If he has to shoot it to make a point, he's just a whining cunt and not at all approaching the matter in a calm, rational way.
It would be better if he were less calm and rational I think. If on reading his daughter's words he had thrown a different kind of drama queen fit and shouted at her instead (with the proviso that she is perfectly entitled to shout back) then I think they would have reached a better mutual understanding in the longer run. Instead he went down the exterminator route - overly calm, overly rational, and firing a gun into the middle of their relationship. This does not augur well for the future of their little happy family.
My bold.. I agree with that. Have a shouting match if need be to show that he was hurt by her words. She would probably discover that she actually hurt him and feel bad about it. Whereas in this situation, he showed that he was hurt but did it in such a douchebag way towards her that she will probably hone in on the douchebag part instead of coming to an understanding with him.
Though, I also agree with what dug said.
It would be better if he were less calm and rational I think. If on reading his daughter's words he had thrown a different kind of drama queen fit and shouted at her instead (with the proviso that she is perfectly entitled to shout back) then I think they would have reached a better mutual understanding in the longer run. Instead he went down the exterminator route - overly calm, overly rational, and firing a gun into the middle of their relationship. This does not augur well for the future of their little happy family.
My bold.. I agree with that. Have a shouting match if need be to show that he was hurt by her words. She would probably discover that she actually hurt him and feel bad about it. Whereas in this situation, he showed that he was hurt but did it in such a douchebag way towards her that she will probably hone in on the douchebag part instead of coming to an understanding with him.
Though, I also agree with what dug said.
Grumps
13th February 2012, 07:31 AM
If he has to shoot it to make a point, he's just a whining cunt and not at all approaching the matter in a calm, rational way.
It would be better if he were less calm and rational I think. If on reading his daughter's words he had thrown a different kind of drama queen fit and shouted at her instead (with the proviso that she is perfectly entitled to shout back) then I think they would have reached a better mutual understanding in the longer run. Instead he went down the exterminator route - overly calm, overly rational, and firing a gun into the middle of their relationship. This does not augur well for the future of their little happy family.
Wait.. so the overly calm and overly rational response is to shoot something?
How about no. It's resorting to violence to resolve a problem, the only reason it looks so 'calm' is because he had access to a gun, which made it easy. Replace that with a machete and you'd realise just how uncalm he's really being.
Note the word 'overly'. It denotes a perceived inauthenticity that may not be obvious to the very grumpy.
That's 2 now. You're pretty shit at this internet thing aren't you?
It would be better if he were less calm and rational I think. If on reading his daughter's words he had thrown a different kind of drama queen fit and shouted at her instead (with the proviso that she is perfectly entitled to shout back) then I think they would have reached a better mutual understanding in the longer run. Instead he went down the exterminator route - overly calm, overly rational, and firing a gun into the middle of their relationship. This does not augur well for the future of their little happy family.
Wait.. so the overly calm and overly rational response is to shoot something?
How about no. It's resorting to violence to resolve a problem, the only reason it looks so 'calm' is because he had access to a gun, which made it easy. Replace that with a machete and you'd realise just how uncalm he's really being.
Note the word 'overly'. It denotes a perceived inauthenticity that may not be obvious to the very grumpy.
That's 2 now. You're pretty shit at this internet thing aren't you?
Grumps
13th February 2012, 07:34 AM
Not imo, jerome. Since when does shaming your kids help change their attitudes? All it does is make parents feel self righteous and further alienate the kids. Also publicly demonstrates that you are a shitty parent.
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
But in this case, it's shitty parenting. Even worse because he used a gun, because the gun made resorting to petty, childish temper tanrums easy.
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
But in this case, it's shitty parenting. Even worse because he used a gun, because the gun made resorting to petty, childish temper tanrums easy.
Gallstones
15th February 2012, 08:58 PM
Not imo, jerome. Since when does shaming your kids help change their attitudes? All it does is make parents feel self righteous and further alienate the kids. Also publicly demonstrates that you are a shitty parent.
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
But in this case, it's shitty parenting. Even worse because he used a gun, because the gun made resorting to petty, childish temper tanrums easy.
Don't temper tantrums involve some yelling, loss of emotional perspective and some dramatic body language?
I saw a guy with deliberate and calm focus shoot a close cluster of .45 slugs into an inanimate object on a lawn.
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
But in this case, it's shitty parenting. Even worse because he used a gun, because the gun made resorting to petty, childish temper tanrums easy.
Don't temper tantrums involve some yelling, loss of emotional perspective and some dramatic body language?
I saw a guy with deliberate and calm focus shoot a close cluster of .45 slugs into an inanimate object on a lawn.
borealis
15th February 2012, 09:06 PM
I saw a guy with no sense of proportion use a nuke to kill a bug.
dug
15th February 2012, 09:12 PM
i saw an asshole being an asshole and everybody talking about it because he made a video of it. the best thing that could happen is if he accidentally turned the gun backwards and extinguished himself.
Fuzzy
15th February 2012, 09:21 PM
Once I got so angry that I squeezed the bar of soap in the shower. It broke into tiny pieces and I had to reassemble it because I was out of soap.
gib
15th February 2012, 09:26 PM
didn't you also punch a cake once?
Gallstones
15th February 2012, 09:30 PM
i saw an asshole being an asshole and everybody talking about it because he made a video of it. the best thing that could happen is if he accidentally turned the gun backwards and extinguished himself.
Your advocation that a stranger on the internet commit self murder for showing a temporary behavior that you find objectionable makes you some kind of an asshole too--doesn't it?
Or does your logic not apply to yourself?
I think I prefer alleged asshole with the gun over self made asshole number two.
Your advocation that a stranger on the internet commit self murder for showing a temporary behavior that you find objectionable makes you some kind of an asshole too--doesn't it?
Or does your logic not apply to yourself?
I think I prefer alleged asshole with the gun over self made asshole number two.
gallstones2
15th February 2012, 09:32 PM
I saw a guy with no sense of proportion use a nuke to kill a bug.
:this:
costly way to exterminate a bug or even a colony of bugs
:hehe:
:this:
costly way to exterminate a bug or even a colony of bugs
:hehe:
Gallstones
15th February 2012, 09:35 PM
I saw a guy with no sense of proportion use a nuke to kill a bug.
:this:
costly way to exterminate a bug or even a colony of bugs
:hehe:
The clean up has to be bitch too.
:this:
costly way to exterminate a bug or even a colony of bugs
:hehe:
The clean up has to be bitch too.
gallstones2
15th February 2012, 09:37 PM
I saw a guy with no sense of proportion use a nuke to kill a bug.
:this:
costly way to exterminate a bug or even a colony of bugs
:hehe:
The clean up has to be bitch too.
Ruins a weekend or two also :hmmm:
:this:
costly way to exterminate a bug or even a colony of bugs
:hehe:
The clean up has to be bitch too.
Ruins a weekend or two also :hmmm:
Fuzzy
15th February 2012, 09:39 PM
didn't you also punch a cake once?
It didn't turn out properly. The cake was already dead.
It didn't turn out properly. The cake was already dead.
gib
15th February 2012, 09:46 PM
ic
dug
16th February 2012, 03:49 PM
Your advocation that a stranger on the internet commit self murder for showing a temporary behavior that you find objectionable makes you some kind of an asshole too--doesn't it?
Or does your logic not apply to yourself?
I think I prefer alleged asshole with the gun over self made asshole number two.
Then you will lose a lot of laptops to assholes.
I don't haphazardly recommend death, but my compassion for his kid(s) demands it this time.
Or does your logic not apply to yourself?
I think I prefer alleged asshole with the gun over self made asshole number two.
Then you will lose a lot of laptops to assholes.
I don't haphazardly recommend death, but my compassion for his kid(s) demands it this time.
Grumps
16th February 2012, 04:12 PM
Not imo, jerome. Since when does shaming your kids help change their attitudes? All it does is make parents feel self righteous and further alienate the kids. Also publicly demonstrates that you are a shitty parent.
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
But in this case, it's shitty parenting. Even worse because he used a gun, because the gun made resorting to petty, childish temper tanrums easy.
Don't temper tantrums involve some yelling, loss of emotional perspective and some dramatic body language?
I saw a guy with deliberate and calm focus shoot a close cluster of .45 slugs into an inanimate object on a lawn.
A temper tantrum doesn't have to be loud and whiney.
Destructive is a far more apt descriptor for what a temper tantrum is.
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
But in this case, it's shitty parenting. Even worse because he used a gun, because the gun made resorting to petty, childish temper tanrums easy.
Don't temper tantrums involve some yelling, loss of emotional perspective and some dramatic body language?
I saw a guy with deliberate and calm focus shoot a close cluster of .45 slugs into an inanimate object on a lawn.
A temper tantrum doesn't have to be loud and whiney.
Destructive is a far more apt descriptor for what a temper tantrum is.
Gallstones
16th February 2012, 08:12 PM
Your advocation that a stranger on the internet commit self murder for showing a temporary behavior that you find objectionable makes you some kind of an asshole too--doesn't it?
Or does your logic not apply to yourself?
I think I prefer alleged asshole with the gun over self made asshole number two.
Then you will lose a lot of laptops to assholes.
I don't haphazardly recommend death, but my compassion for his kid(s) demands it this time.
I see.
Compassion for the kid is hoping her father kills himself.
Or does your logic not apply to yourself?
I think I prefer alleged asshole with the gun over self made asshole number two.
Then you will lose a lot of laptops to assholes.
I don't haphazardly recommend death, but my compassion for his kid(s) demands it this time.
I see.
Compassion for the kid is hoping her father kills himself.
Gallstones
16th February 2012, 08:14 PM
Not imo, jerome. Since when does shaming your kids help change their attitudes? All it does is make parents feel self righteous and further alienate the kids. Also publicly demonstrates that you are a shitty parent.
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
But in this case, it's shitty parenting. Even worse because he used a gun, because the gun made resorting to petty, childish temper tanrums easy.
Don't temper tantrums involve some yelling, loss of emotional perspective and some dramatic body language?
I saw a guy with deliberate and calm focus shoot a close cluster of .45 slugs into an inanimate object on a lawn.
A temper tantrum doesn't have to be loud and whiney.
Destructive is a far more apt descriptor for what a temper tantrum is.
So, acts of destruction to one's own property are temper tantrums?
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
But in this case, it's shitty parenting. Even worse because he used a gun, because the gun made resorting to petty, childish temper tanrums easy.
Don't temper tantrums involve some yelling, loss of emotional perspective and some dramatic body language?
I saw a guy with deliberate and calm focus shoot a close cluster of .45 slugs into an inanimate object on a lawn.
A temper tantrum doesn't have to be loud and whiney.
Destructive is a far more apt descriptor for what a temper tantrum is.
So, acts of destruction to one's own property are temper tantrums?
Grumps
16th February 2012, 08:16 PM
Not imo, jerome. Since when does shaming your kids help change their attitudes? All it does is make parents feel self righteous and further alienate the kids. Also publicly demonstrates that you are a shitty parent.
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
But in this case, it's shitty parenting. Even worse because he used a gun, because the gun made resorting to petty, childish temper tanrums easy.
Don't temper tantrums involve some yelling, loss of emotional perspective and some dramatic body language?
I saw a guy with deliberate and calm focus shoot a close cluster of .45 slugs into an inanimate object on a lawn.
A temper tantrum doesn't have to be loud and whiney.
Destructive is a far more apt descriptor for what a temper tantrum is.
So, acts of destruction to one's own property are temper tantrums?
Given it's a negative response to someone else's behaviour, yes.
It's a bit like the guy who's losing the football match so he throws the ball in to a river.
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
But in this case, it's shitty parenting. Even worse because he used a gun, because the gun made resorting to petty, childish temper tanrums easy.
Don't temper tantrums involve some yelling, loss of emotional perspective and some dramatic body language?
I saw a guy with deliberate and calm focus shoot a close cluster of .45 slugs into an inanimate object on a lawn.
A temper tantrum doesn't have to be loud and whiney.
Destructive is a far more apt descriptor for what a temper tantrum is.
So, acts of destruction to one's own property are temper tantrums?
Given it's a negative response to someone else's behaviour, yes.
It's a bit like the guy who's losing the football match so he throws the ball in to a river.
Gallstones
16th February 2012, 08:24 PM
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
But in this case, it's shitty parenting. Even worse because he used a gun, because the gun made resorting to petty, childish temper tanrums easy.
Don't temper tantrums involve some yelling, loss of emotional perspective and some dramatic body language?
I saw a guy with deliberate and calm focus shoot a close cluster of .45 slugs into an inanimate object on a lawn.
A temper tantrum doesn't have to be loud and whiney.
Destructive is a far more apt descriptor for what a temper tantrum is.
So, acts of destruction to one's own property are temper tantrums?
Given it's a negative response to someone else's behaviour, yes.
It's a bit like the guy who's losing the football match so he throws the ball in to a river.
How this father chose to remove access to the vehicle enabling his daughter's continued internet activity is totally meh to me.
It isn't like he beat her or shot her.
But in this case, it's shitty parenting. Even worse because he used a gun, because the gun made resorting to petty, childish temper tanrums easy.
Don't temper tantrums involve some yelling, loss of emotional perspective and some dramatic body language?
I saw a guy with deliberate and calm focus shoot a close cluster of .45 slugs into an inanimate object on a lawn.
A temper tantrum doesn't have to be loud and whiney.
Destructive is a far more apt descriptor for what a temper tantrum is.
So, acts of destruction to one's own property are temper tantrums?
Given it's a negative response to someone else's behaviour, yes.
It's a bit like the guy who's losing the football match so he throws the ball in to a river.
How this father chose to remove access to the vehicle enabling his daughter's continued internet activity is totally meh to me.
It isn't like he beat her or shot her.
Grumps
16th February 2012, 08:27 PM
But in this case, it's shitty parenting. Even worse because he used a gun, because the gun made resorting to petty, childish temper tanrums easy.
Don't temper tantrums involve some yelling, loss of emotional perspective and some dramatic body language?
I saw a guy with deliberate and calm focus shoot a close cluster of .45 slugs into an inanimate object on a lawn.
A temper tantrum doesn't have to be loud and whiney.
Destructive is a far more apt descriptor for what a temper tantrum is.
So, acts of destruction to one's own property are temper tantrums?
Given it's a negative response to someone else's behaviour, yes.
It's a bit like the guy who's losing the football match so he throws the ball in to a river.
How this father chose to remove access to the vehicle enabling his daughter's continued internet activity is totally meh to me.
It isn't like he beat her or shot her.
No, it's not, but it's still pretty childish to destroy something because you don't like what somebody else does.
Don't temper tantrums involve some yelling, loss of emotional perspective and some dramatic body language?
I saw a guy with deliberate and calm focus shoot a close cluster of .45 slugs into an inanimate object on a lawn.
A temper tantrum doesn't have to be loud and whiney.
Destructive is a far more apt descriptor for what a temper tantrum is.
So, acts of destruction to one's own property are temper tantrums?
Given it's a negative response to someone else's behaviour, yes.
It's a bit like the guy who's losing the football match so he throws the ball in to a river.
How this father chose to remove access to the vehicle enabling his daughter's continued internet activity is totally meh to me.
It isn't like he beat her or shot her.
No, it's not, but it's still pretty childish to destroy something because you don't like what somebody else does.
dug
17th February 2012, 04:14 PM
I see.
Compassion for the kid is hoping her father kills himself.
yes
Compassion for the kid is hoping her father kills himself.
yes
Gallstones
17th February 2012, 08:46 PM
I see.
Compassion for the kid is hoping her father kills himself.
yes
Wow.
Even I, a gun nut, would not wish that on a kid; or anybody.
Compassion for the kid is hoping her father kills himself.
yes
Wow.
Even I, a gun nut, would not wish that on a kid; or anybody.
gallstones2
17th February 2012, 09:04 PM
I see.
Compassion for the kid is hoping her father kills himself.
yes
Wow.
Even I, a gun nut, would not wish that on a kid; or anybody.
Agree with Gallstones on this, knew a few kids who grew up without a father due to that wonderful southeast asian paradise know as Vietnam. Wish that on no child:toetap:
Compassion for the kid is hoping her father kills himself.
yes
Wow.
Even I, a gun nut, would not wish that on a kid; or anybody.
Agree with Gallstones on this, knew a few kids who grew up without a father due to that wonderful southeast asian paradise know as Vietnam. Wish that on no child:toetap:
dug
17th February 2012, 09:23 PM
Growing up without a father who is a violent, controlling asshole is a good thing.
dug
17th February 2012, 09:26 PM
Even I, a gun nut
This confuses me. How do you think that is relevant?
This confuses me. How do you think that is relevant?
Gallstones
17th February 2012, 09:29 PM
Growing up without a father who is a violent, controlling asshole is a good thing.
You can't substantiate either of those accusations about this guy based on a video.
Somehow you seem to have the idea that you get to decide for this girl what is in her best interests and what she should want. If she wants her dad to shoot himself then she is shit and doesn't deserve him.
You are talking out your ass and driven by your own irrational hate and fear.
You can't substantiate either of those accusations about this guy based on a video.
Somehow you seem to have the idea that you get to decide for this girl what is in her best interests and what she should want. If she wants her dad to shoot himself then she is shit and doesn't deserve him.
You are talking out your ass and driven by your own irrational hate and fear.
Gallstones
17th February 2012, 09:33 PM
Even I, a gun nut
This confuses me. How do you think that is relevant?
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc319/Gallstones/Smilies/humph.gif
This confuses me. How do you think that is relevant?
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc319/Gallstones/Smilies/humph.gif
gallstones2
17th February 2012, 09:35 PM
Growing up without a father who is a violent, controlling asshole is a good thing.
How can you possibly say that??? And how can you say the father is a contolling asshole ??? His way of parenting may differ from your, if you are a parent, but that doesn't prove he is controlling or an asshole
. For all we know you may be an abusive parent who degrades his or her children:hmmm:
How can you possibly say that??? And how can you say the father is a contolling asshole ??? His way of parenting may differ from your, if you are a parent, but that doesn't prove he is controlling or an asshole
. For all we know you may be an abusive parent who degrades his or her children:hmmm:
dug
17th February 2012, 09:37 PM
You can't substantiate either of those accusations about this guy based on a video.
The guy shoots his daughter's laptop to prove that he is in charge. Violence? Check. Controlling asshole? Check.
Somehow you seem to have the idea that you get to decide for this girl what is in her best interests and what she should want.
No actually I'm just posting a message on a web forum. I'm not under the impression that I can order the man's death.
If she wants her dad to shoot himself then she is shit and doesn't deserve him.
lol
You are talking out your ass and driven by your own irrational hate and fear.
It is compassion that compels me to wish death upon the villains.
The guy shoots his daughter's laptop to prove that he is in charge. Violence? Check. Controlling asshole? Check.
Somehow you seem to have the idea that you get to decide for this girl what is in her best interests and what she should want.
No actually I'm just posting a message on a web forum. I'm not under the impression that I can order the man's death.
If she wants her dad to shoot himself then she is shit and doesn't deserve him.
lol
You are talking out your ass and driven by your own irrational hate and fear.
It is compassion that compels me to wish death upon the villains.
Gallstones
17th February 2012, 09:41 PM
Your version of compassion is perverse.
It might be the kid who is the villain.
It might be the kid who is the villain.
dug
17th February 2012, 09:44 PM
How can you possibly say that???
Because I am capable of saying things that are true.
And how can you say the father is a contolling asshole ??? His way of parenting may differ from your, if you are a parent, but that doesn't prove he is controlling or an asshole.
The evidence has already been supplied.
For all we know you may be an abusive parent who degrades his or her children:hmmm:
I have made mistakes but it took a hell of a lot of work and thought to do that video. That is premeditated assholishness. I have always checked my anger before it ever had the chance to mutate into sickening revenge displays meant to assert my power by publicly humiliating my child and violating her by wrecking her possessions. For which my daughters are probably grateful.
(Oblivion is my FB friend. Ask her if my daughters appear to hate me.)
Because I am capable of saying things that are true.
And how can you say the father is a contolling asshole ??? His way of parenting may differ from your, if you are a parent, but that doesn't prove he is controlling or an asshole.
The evidence has already been supplied.
For all we know you may be an abusive parent who degrades his or her children:hmmm:
I have made mistakes but it took a hell of a lot of work and thought to do that video. That is premeditated assholishness. I have always checked my anger before it ever had the chance to mutate into sickening revenge displays meant to assert my power by publicly humiliating my child and violating her by wrecking her possessions. For which my daughters are probably grateful.
(Oblivion is my FB friend. Ask her if my daughters appear to hate me.)
Gallstones
17th February 2012, 09:46 PM
A snapshot of behavior in a snapshot of time, barely a blink of a life, is not "truth".
dug
17th February 2012, 09:46 PM
Your version of compassion is perverse.
No it's not.
It might be the kid who is the villain.
Doubtful.
No it's not.
It might be the kid who is the villain.
Doubtful.
gallstones2
17th February 2012, 09:51 PM
OK Daughters don't hate you but there is no way that you can possibly tell me you were never a " controlling asshole " at least once in your life.
dug
17th February 2012, 09:55 PM
Of course but as I mentioned I never turned it into a spectacle of public humiliation. That takes a special effort that transcends anger. It is a sign of a terrible person.
Gallstones
17th February 2012, 10:14 PM
Your version of compassion is perverse.
No it's not.
Yes it is.
It might be the kid who is the villain.Doubtful.
Very possible. As possible as your assessment.
You don't have any more information than anyone else.
You are choosing to assume the father has to be the villain based on a snapshot of a moment in time. The daughter could be a bipolar, selfish, raving bitch for all you know who has made life miserable for the rest of the family since she was born. Maybe he is at the end of his rope?
No it's not.
Yes it is.
It might be the kid who is the villain.Doubtful.
Very possible. As possible as your assessment.
You don't have any more information than anyone else.
You are choosing to assume the father has to be the villain based on a snapshot of a moment in time. The daughter could be a bipolar, selfish, raving bitch for all you know who has made life miserable for the rest of the family since she was born. Maybe he is at the end of his rope?
dug
17th February 2012, 10:23 PM
That is not being at the end of your rope. That is public humiliation. It's done coldly. It's not a moment of anger.
Yes, maybe it's all a big misunderstanding or performance art or something else. That's of course possible. Who cares...I'm reacting to it as presented.
Yes, maybe it's all a big misunderstanding or performance art or something else. That's of course possible. Who cares...I'm reacting to it as presented.
Mantisdreamz
17th February 2012, 11:33 PM
a spectacle of public humiliation.
I've said it already, but that's exactly what gets me too. It wasn't done for a joke, or in good humour. It was done to his own daughter. I can't understand anyone who would want to do that.
I've said it already, but that's exactly what gets me too. It wasn't done for a joke, or in good humour. It was done to his own daughter. I can't understand anyone who would want to do that.
Gallstones
18th February 2012, 12:34 AM
Some people--even some kids, especially some kids--deserve to be shamed.
Mantisdreamz
18th February 2012, 01:04 AM
Some people--even some kids, especially some kids--deserve to be shamed.
But if your kid pissed you off so much, it's a personal matter. Why would you want them to be in a position where their friends and millions across the internet poke fun at the situation and at them. It's just really inconsiderate to their feelings... like, you don't care about the embarrassment that they receive because YOU feel you need to be vindicated. That's just selfish.
But if your kid pissed you off so much, it's a personal matter. Why would you want them to be in a position where their friends and millions across the internet poke fun at the situation and at them. It's just really inconsiderate to their feelings... like, you don't care about the embarrassment that they receive because YOU feel you need to be vindicated. That's just selfish.
oblivion
18th February 2012, 01:07 AM
a spectacle of public humiliation.
I've said it already, but that's exactly what gets me too. It wasn't done for a joke, or in good humour. It was done to his own daughter. I can't understand anyone who would want to do that.
my take, pretty much.
someone needed to be the adult in that one-off interaction.
My kids are both young adults now. They both still remember a few instances when DH or I did not react like adults, whether they "deserved it" or not. Actions have consequences, and sometimes the consequences are permanent. I doubt this guy and his daughter had much of a relationship going into his youtube-immortalized vengeance.
When I posted the link, I thought there was at least a 50/50 chance it was faked theater. It still seems like an absurd overreaction to teenage smart alec syndrome.
I've said it already, but that's exactly what gets me too. It wasn't done for a joke, or in good humour. It was done to his own daughter. I can't understand anyone who would want to do that.
my take, pretty much.
someone needed to be the adult in that one-off interaction.
My kids are both young adults now. They both still remember a few instances when DH or I did not react like adults, whether they "deserved it" or not. Actions have consequences, and sometimes the consequences are permanent. I doubt this guy and his daughter had much of a relationship going into his youtube-immortalized vengeance.
When I posted the link, I thought there was at least a 50/50 chance it was faked theater. It still seems like an absurd overreaction to teenage smart alec syndrome.
Hermit
18th February 2012, 01:42 AM
Some people--even some kids, especially some kids--deserve to be shamed.
If you have convinced a child that it has done the wrong thing, you've achieved the best of possible results. The child sees the error of its ways and sincerely intends to mend its ways. This is good for both parent and child.
Public humiliation and revenge is, at best, a moronic way of trying to achieve that. At worst it is nothing more than sadism. It does nothing to change the child's attitude for the better. In fact, it is likely that the petulant and antagonistic portion of what the parent is doing will obscure anything reasonable the parent says at that time. If anything, the parent's action will escalate the problem. To the child it will just reinforce its opinion that its parents are just utter arseholes, dig its heels in and become more obstreperous and alienated from its guardians.
I am speaking from personal experience on a lower level of intensity. When I am angry with children, they don't get why I am angry at all. My anger blanks out everything else. All it does is to reinforce their conviction that I am an unpleasant, nasty spoilsport and to be avoided making contact with as much as possible. Unfortunately, my effort to change my approach is not nearly as successful as I'd like it to be, but I keep working on it.
If you have convinced a child that it has done the wrong thing, you've achieved the best of possible results. The child sees the error of its ways and sincerely intends to mend its ways. This is good for both parent and child.
Public humiliation and revenge is, at best, a moronic way of trying to achieve that. At worst it is nothing more than sadism. It does nothing to change the child's attitude for the better. In fact, it is likely that the petulant and antagonistic portion of what the parent is doing will obscure anything reasonable the parent says at that time. If anything, the parent's action will escalate the problem. To the child it will just reinforce its opinion that its parents are just utter arseholes, dig its heels in and become more obstreperous and alienated from its guardians.
I am speaking from personal experience on a lower level of intensity. When I am angry with children, they don't get why I am angry at all. My anger blanks out everything else. All it does is to reinforce their conviction that I am an unpleasant, nasty spoilsport and to be avoided making contact with as much as possible. Unfortunately, my effort to change my approach is not nearly as successful as I'd like it to be, but I keep working on it.
Gallstones
18th February 2012, 02:43 AM
Some people are born criminal. All the loving parenting in the world doesn't change that.
oblivion
18th February 2012, 02:50 AM
Some people are born criminal. All the loving parenting in the world doesn't change that.
wtf does that have to do with this girl, her laptop and her dad?
wtf does that have to do with this girl, her laptop and her dad?
Gallstones
18th February 2012, 03:28 AM
Some people are born criminal. All the loving parenting in the world doesn't change that.
wtf does that have to do with this girl, her laptop and her dad?
None of us has even seen hide nor hair of the daughter.
As I said above--already--she could be a total selfish, psychotic bitch who has disrupted everyone's life since birth and this guy is trying anything he can to get through to her.
To reiterate, I am not in the least disturbed because he used a gun, shot an inanimate object, or made a video of it.
wtf does that have to do with this girl, her laptop and her dad?
None of us has even seen hide nor hair of the daughter.
As I said above--already--she could be a total selfish, psychotic bitch who has disrupted everyone's life since birth and this guy is trying anything he can to get through to her.
To reiterate, I am not in the least disturbed because he used a gun, shot an inanimate object, or made a video of it.
Mantisdreamz
18th February 2012, 03:33 AM
Some people are born criminal. All the loving parenting in the world doesn't change that.
wtf does that have to do with this girl, her laptop and her dad?
None of us has even seen hide nor hair of the daughter.
As I said above--already--she could be a total selfish, psychotic bitch who has disrupted everyone's life since birth and this guy is trying anything he can to get through to her.
To reiterate, I am not in the least disturbed because he used a gun, shot an inanimate object, or made a video of it.
That could be the case.. that she is like that.
But, instead of doing equally moronic things (under the assumption that this demon teenager has done much worse, criminal things) -- why not take her to therapy instead? Or why stoop to the same level, being an adult?
wtf does that have to do with this girl, her laptop and her dad?
None of us has even seen hide nor hair of the daughter.
As I said above--already--she could be a total selfish, psychotic bitch who has disrupted everyone's life since birth and this guy is trying anything he can to get through to her.
To reiterate, I am not in the least disturbed because he used a gun, shot an inanimate object, or made a video of it.
That could be the case.. that she is like that.
But, instead of doing equally moronic things (under the assumption that this demon teenager has done much worse, criminal things) -- why not take her to therapy instead? Or why stoop to the same level, being an adult?
Hermit
18th February 2012, 05:52 AM
Some people are born criminal. All the loving parenting in the world doesn't change that.
Oh, yes! The old criminality gene. Someone must have discovered it now, I suppose.
And that dad in the video clip has discovered the antidote. :cheer:
Oh, yes! The old criminality gene. Someone must have discovered it now, I suppose.
And that dad in the video clip has discovered the antidote. :cheer:
Gallstones
18th February 2012, 06:23 AM
Some people are born criminal. All the loving parenting in the world doesn't change that.
Oh, yes! The old criminality gene. Someone must have discovered it now, I suppose.
And that dad in the video clip has discovered the antidote. :cheer:
In regards to your strawman and your assumption that I mean an actual DNA cause; I've witnessed it in my family three times--generational peers. I'm convinced it's true.
Some shits are born and not made. I'm not claiming to know the mechanism, just that it does happen.
There is no antidote. One acknowledges and either disconnects or allows the affected individual to continue to abuse them. There is a term for that, codependency.
Oh, yes! The old criminality gene. Someone must have discovered it now, I suppose.
And that dad in the video clip has discovered the antidote. :cheer:
In regards to your strawman and your assumption that I mean an actual DNA cause; I've witnessed it in my family three times--generational peers. I'm convinced it's true.
Some shits are born and not made. I'm not claiming to know the mechanism, just that it does happen.
There is no antidote. One acknowledges and either disconnects or allows the affected individual to continue to abuse them. There is a term for that, codependency.
Hermit
18th February 2012, 06:38 AM
Some people are born criminal. All the loving parenting in the world doesn't change that.
Oh, yes! The old criminality gene. Someone must have discovered it now, I suppose.
And that dad in the video clip has discovered the antidote. :cheer:
In regards to your strawman and your assumption that I mean an actual DNA cause; I've witnessed it in my family three times--generational peers. I'm convinced it's true.
Some shits are born and not made. I'm not claiming to know the mechanism, just that it does happen.
There is no antidote. One acknowledges and either disconnects or allows the affected individual to continue to abuse them. There is a term for that, codependency.Strawman, my foot. If there are born criminals, they are not socialised into criminality, are they? So what causes their criminality? Evil spirits?
And I envy your skill for being able to spot the born criminals.
Oh, yes! The old criminality gene. Someone must have discovered it now, I suppose.
And that dad in the video clip has discovered the antidote. :cheer:
In regards to your strawman and your assumption that I mean an actual DNA cause; I've witnessed it in my family three times--generational peers. I'm convinced it's true.
Some shits are born and not made. I'm not claiming to know the mechanism, just that it does happen.
There is no antidote. One acknowledges and either disconnects or allows the affected individual to continue to abuse them. There is a term for that, codependency.Strawman, my foot. If there are born criminals, they are not socialised into criminality, are they? So what causes their criminality? Evil spirits?
And I envy your skill for being able to spot the born criminals.
Grumps
18th February 2012, 11:56 AM
Genes create predisposition, or tendencies, or susceptibilities. Environments trigger behaviours. Neither alone are enough to 'make a man'.
But let's assume we're running with the 'genes only' belief - the kid is a shit because of genes inherited from the parent, therefore the parents are shits. So, the video is an example of 'shit parenting' by a shit person for their kid who is only shitty because of the genes they inherited.
Either way, you're not really making it look any better, Gallstones.
But let's assume we're running with the 'genes only' belief - the kid is a shit because of genes inherited from the parent, therefore the parents are shits. So, the video is an example of 'shit parenting' by a shit person for their kid who is only shitty because of the genes they inherited.
Either way, you're not really making it look any better, Gallstones.
Gallstones
19th February 2012, 06:53 AM
Genes create predisposition, or tendencies, or susceptibilities. Environments trigger behaviours. Neither alone are enough to 'make a man'.
But let's assume we're running with the 'genes only' belief - the kid is a shit because of genes inherited from the parent, therefore the parents are shits. So, the video is an example of 'shit parenting' by a shit person for their kid who is only shitty because of the genes they inherited.
Either way, you're not really making it look any better, Gallstones.
A child can inherit all kinds of phenotypes.
The parents can both be heterozygous for those phenotypes, or only one of them, and not manifest any indications of harboring a trait and not even know they have it until the traits show in the offspring.
Also, it isn't my intention to make anything look any certain way. I just choose to do my own thinking rather than jump on the bandwagon of the majority.
Additionally, what we are witnessing is more than a single individuals behavior, that behavior has a cultural foundation. Just because some privileged western liberals haven't lived that culture doesn't mean they are right and this guy is wrong.
Sanctimony isn't attractive or convincing in and of itself.
But let's assume we're running with the 'genes only' belief - the kid is a shit because of genes inherited from the parent, therefore the parents are shits. So, the video is an example of 'shit parenting' by a shit person for their kid who is only shitty because of the genes they inherited.
Either way, you're not really making it look any better, Gallstones.
A child can inherit all kinds of phenotypes.
The parents can both be heterozygous for those phenotypes, or only one of them, and not manifest any indications of harboring a trait and not even know they have it until the traits show in the offspring.
Also, it isn't my intention to make anything look any certain way. I just choose to do my own thinking rather than jump on the bandwagon of the majority.
Additionally, what we are witnessing is more than a single individuals behavior, that behavior has a cultural foundation. Just because some privileged western liberals haven't lived that culture doesn't mean they are right and this guy is wrong.
Sanctimony isn't attractive or convincing in and of itself.
Gallstones
19th February 2012, 07:00 AM
Some people are born criminal. All the loving parenting in the world doesn't change that.
Oh, yes! The old criminality gene. Someone must have discovered it now, I suppose.
And that dad in the video clip has discovered the antidote. :cheer:
In regards to your strawman and your assumption that I mean an actual DNA cause; I've witnessed it in my family three times--generational peers. I'm convinced it's true.
Some shits are born and not made. I'm not claiming to know the mechanism, just that it does happen.
There is no antidote. One acknowledges and either disconnects or allows the affected individual to continue to abuse them. There is a term for that, codependency.Strawman, my foot. If there are born criminals, they are not socialised into criminality, are they? So what causes their criminality? Evil spirits?
And I envy your skill for being able to spot the born criminals.
No where have I said I am able to spot born criminals.
What I said is that they exist.
They exist as surely as do autistics and psychopaths--neither of which are black or white, but a spectrum.
What causes inborn criminality--a symptom, not the disorder--is neurophysical architecture. I am not even claiming such to be disease or defect.
Oh, yes! The old criminality gene. Someone must have discovered it now, I suppose.
And that dad in the video clip has discovered the antidote. :cheer:
In regards to your strawman and your assumption that I mean an actual DNA cause; I've witnessed it in my family three times--generational peers. I'm convinced it's true.
Some shits are born and not made. I'm not claiming to know the mechanism, just that it does happen.
There is no antidote. One acknowledges and either disconnects or allows the affected individual to continue to abuse them. There is a term for that, codependency.Strawman, my foot. If there are born criminals, they are not socialised into criminality, are they? So what causes their criminality? Evil spirits?
And I envy your skill for being able to spot the born criminals.
No where have I said I am able to spot born criminals.
What I said is that they exist.
They exist as surely as do autistics and psychopaths--neither of which are black or white, but a spectrum.
What causes inborn criminality--a symptom, not the disorder--is neurophysical architecture. I am not even claiming such to be disease or defect.
Grumps
19th February 2012, 07:49 AM
Genes create predisposition, or tendencies, or susceptibilities. Environments trigger behaviours. Neither alone are enough to 'make a man'.
But let's assume we're running with the 'genes only' belief - the kid is a shit because of genes inherited from the parent, therefore the parents are shits. So, the video is an example of 'shit parenting' by a shit person for their kid who is only shitty because of the genes they inherited.
Either way, you're not really making it look any better, Gallstones.
A child can inherit all kinds of phenotypes.
The parents can both be heterozygous for those phenotypes, or only one of them, and not manifest any indications of harboring a trait and not even know they have it until the traits show in the offspring.
Also, it isn't my intention to make anything look any certain way. I just choose to do my own thinking rather than jump on the bandwagon of the majority.
Additionally, what we are witnessing is more than a single individuals behavior, that behavior has a cultural foundation. Just because some privileged western liberals haven't lived that culture doesn't mean they are right and this guy is wrong.
Sanctimony isn't attractive or convincing in and of itself.
Sanctimony? Really?
You're saying that, after all the self-righteous nonsense? The only reason you think this is okay is because you're trying so terribly hard to justify gun ownership. You continually ignore the fact that the man used violence as a resolution to personal conflict, and then talk about sanctimony?
Ok. That's cool. I'll just sit in my privileged liberal chair in my privileged liberal country - you know, the one with substantially less violence than the US.
But let's assume we're running with the 'genes only' belief - the kid is a shit because of genes inherited from the parent, therefore the parents are shits. So, the video is an example of 'shit parenting' by a shit person for their kid who is only shitty because of the genes they inherited.
Either way, you're not really making it look any better, Gallstones.
A child can inherit all kinds of phenotypes.
The parents can both be heterozygous for those phenotypes, or only one of them, and not manifest any indications of harboring a trait and not even know they have it until the traits show in the offspring.
Also, it isn't my intention to make anything look any certain way. I just choose to do my own thinking rather than jump on the bandwagon of the majority.
Additionally, what we are witnessing is more than a single individuals behavior, that behavior has a cultural foundation. Just because some privileged western liberals haven't lived that culture doesn't mean they are right and this guy is wrong.
Sanctimony isn't attractive or convincing in and of itself.
Sanctimony? Really?
You're saying that, after all the self-righteous nonsense? The only reason you think this is okay is because you're trying so terribly hard to justify gun ownership. You continually ignore the fact that the man used violence as a resolution to personal conflict, and then talk about sanctimony?
Ok. That's cool. I'll just sit in my privileged liberal chair in my privileged liberal country - you know, the one with substantially less violence than the US.
dug
19th February 2012, 03:13 PM
Additionally, what we are witnessing is more than a single individuals behavior, that behavior has a cultural foundation. Just because some privileged western liberals haven't lived that culture doesn't mean they are right and this guy is wrong.
Yeah that guy is so foreign to me. What are you, like 16? You just discovered cultural relativism or something? I've met and had the misfortune to know many people just like that idiot. You go right ahead and think about him as a noble savage and then later when someone like him does some shitty, self-centered, pathetic thing to yourself or someone you care about get back to me.
Sanctimony isn't attractive or convincing in and of itself.
Your sanctimony is boring and weak. That is correct.
Yeah that guy is so foreign to me. What are you, like 16? You just discovered cultural relativism or something? I've met and had the misfortune to know many people just like that idiot. You go right ahead and think about him as a noble savage and then later when someone like him does some shitty, self-centered, pathetic thing to yourself or someone you care about get back to me.
Sanctimony isn't attractive or convincing in and of itself.
Your sanctimony is boring and weak. That is correct.
Gallstones
20th February 2012, 06:43 AM
Genes create predisposition, or tendencies, or susceptibilities. Environments trigger behaviours. Neither alone are enough to 'make a man'.
But let's assume we're running with the 'genes only' belief - the kid is a shit because of genes inherited from the parent, therefore the parents are shits. So, the video is an example of 'shit parenting' by a shit person for their kid who is only shitty because of the genes they inherited.
Either way, you're not really making it look any better, Gallstones.
A child can inherit all kinds of phenotypes.
The parents can both be heterozygous for those phenotypes, or only one of them, and not manifest any indications of harboring a trait and not even know they have it until the traits show in the offspring.
Also, it isn't my intention to make anything look any certain way. I just choose to do my own thinking rather than jump on the bandwagon of the majority.
Additionally, what we are witnessing is more than a single individuals behavior, that behavior has a cultural foundation. Just because some privileged western liberals haven't lived that culture doesn't mean they are right and this guy is wrong.
Sanctimony isn't attractive or convincing in and of itself.
Sanctimony? Really?
You're saying that, after all the self-righteous nonsense? The only reason you think this is okay is because you're trying so terribly hard to justify gun ownership. You continually ignore the fact that the man used violence as a resolution to personal conflict, and then talk about sanctimony?
Ok. That's cool. I'll just sit in my privileged liberal chair in my privileged liberal country - you know, the one with substantially less violence than the US.
Okay. Just don't sit there too long, I understand that a sedentary lifestyle is not good for one's health.
I'm not trying. I don't have to try.
I'm convinced, and those who have a different POV are welcome to it.
Again, I don't see shooting an inanimate object as violence.
That minimizes what true violence is. But you go there if it makes you feel good.
But let's assume we're running with the 'genes only' belief - the kid is a shit because of genes inherited from the parent, therefore the parents are shits. So, the video is an example of 'shit parenting' by a shit person for their kid who is only shitty because of the genes they inherited.
Either way, you're not really making it look any better, Gallstones.
A child can inherit all kinds of phenotypes.
The parents can both be heterozygous for those phenotypes, or only one of them, and not manifest any indications of harboring a trait and not even know they have it until the traits show in the offspring.
Also, it isn't my intention to make anything look any certain way. I just choose to do my own thinking rather than jump on the bandwagon of the majority.
Additionally, what we are witnessing is more than a single individuals behavior, that behavior has a cultural foundation. Just because some privileged western liberals haven't lived that culture doesn't mean they are right and this guy is wrong.
Sanctimony isn't attractive or convincing in and of itself.
Sanctimony? Really?
You're saying that, after all the self-righteous nonsense? The only reason you think this is okay is because you're trying so terribly hard to justify gun ownership. You continually ignore the fact that the man used violence as a resolution to personal conflict, and then talk about sanctimony?
Ok. That's cool. I'll just sit in my privileged liberal chair in my privileged liberal country - you know, the one with substantially less violence than the US.
Okay. Just don't sit there too long, I understand that a sedentary lifestyle is not good for one's health.
I'm not trying. I don't have to try.
I'm convinced, and those who have a different POV are welcome to it.
Again, I don't see shooting an inanimate object as violence.
That minimizes what true violence is. But you go there if it makes you feel good.
Gallstones
20th February 2012, 06:45 AM
Additionally, what we are witnessing is more than a single individuals behavior, that behavior has a cultural foundation. Just because some privileged western liberals haven't lived that culture doesn't mean they are right and this guy is wrong.
Yeah that guy is so foreign to me. What are you, like 16? You just discovered cultural relativism or something? I've met and had the misfortune to know many people just like that idiot. You go right ahead and think about him as a noble savage and then later when someone like him does some shitty, self-centered, pathetic thing to yourself or someone you care about get back to me.
Sanctimony isn't attractive or convincing in and of itself.Your sanctimony is boring and weak. That is correct.
Ha!
When the opposition resorts to insult I know I've gained the upper hand.
Yeah that guy is so foreign to me. What are you, like 16? You just discovered cultural relativism or something? I've met and had the misfortune to know many people just like that idiot. You go right ahead and think about him as a noble savage and then later when someone like him does some shitty, self-centered, pathetic thing to yourself or someone you care about get back to me.
Sanctimony isn't attractive or convincing in and of itself.Your sanctimony is boring and weak. That is correct.
Ha!
When the opposition resorts to insult I know I've gained the upper hand.
dug
20th February 2012, 07:46 PM
No actually you're looking pretty dumb at this point.
Gallstones
20th February 2012, 09:57 PM
No actually you're looking pretty dumb at this point.
Take your dumb glasses off then.
Take your dumb glasses off then.
Robert_S
20th February 2012, 11:02 PM
http://www.thedaily.com/page/2012/02/12/021212-news-facebook-dad-folo-1-2/
Jordan had been living with Hannah for only a little more than six months before posting his video in response to her Facebook diatribe titled “To My Parents,” which he discovered when he updated her laptop. The video had more than 14 million hits by late yesterday.
Jordan and his wife live about five hours from Jordan’s ex-wife and Hannah’s mother, Michelle Ambrose-Smith. Hannah lived with her mother and took extended visits to her father’s home in the summer and during holidays. In August, Jordan wrote on his blog that he missed his daughter so much that he asked his daughter if she’d like to live with him permanently, and that she had accepted.
“I’m not your damn slave,” wrote Hannah, an honor student who plays clarinet. “It’s not my responsibility to clean up your sh*t. We have a cleaning lady for a reason. Her name is Linda, not Hannah.”
The guy has an honor student whose worst crime is making a rough draft of a remake of the Will Smith song below and he has to bring out a gun over it.
Parents Just Don't Understand - YouTube
:facepalm:
Jordan had been living with Hannah for only a little more than six months before posting his video in response to her Facebook diatribe titled “To My Parents,” which he discovered when he updated her laptop. The video had more than 14 million hits by late yesterday.
Jordan and his wife live about five hours from Jordan’s ex-wife and Hannah’s mother, Michelle Ambrose-Smith. Hannah lived with her mother and took extended visits to her father’s home in the summer and during holidays. In August, Jordan wrote on his blog that he missed his daughter so much that he asked his daughter if she’d like to live with him permanently, and that she had accepted.
“I’m not your damn slave,” wrote Hannah, an honor student who plays clarinet. “It’s not my responsibility to clean up your sh*t. We have a cleaning lady for a reason. Her name is Linda, not Hannah.”
The guy has an honor student whose worst crime is making a rough draft of a remake of the Will Smith song below and he has to bring out a gun over it.
Parents Just Don't Understand - YouTube
:facepalm:
Grumps
21st February 2012, 11:03 PM
Yeah, but Robert he used a gun so it's okay. It's not at all a complete over-reaction because he only shot a laptop over an entirely trivial thing.
Also, deliberately destroying something with a weapon isn't violence.
Also, deliberately destroying something with a weapon isn't violence.
divagreen
22nd February 2012, 02:56 AM
Yeah, but Robert he used a gun so it's okay. It's not at all a complete over-reaction because he only shot a laptop over an entirely trivial thing.
Also, deliberately destroying something with a weapon isn't violence.
maybe he just should have run it over with his car. that would have at least left out the aspect of the the gun issue.
Also, deliberately destroying something with a weapon isn't violence.
maybe he just should have run it over with his car. that would have at least left out the aspect of the the gun issue.
Grumps
22nd February 2012, 03:13 AM
Yeah, but Robert he used a gun so it's okay. It's not at all a complete over-reaction because he only shot a laptop over an entirely trivial thing.
Also, deliberately destroying something with a weapon isn't violence.
maybe he just should have run it over with his car. that would have at least left out the aspect of the the gun issue.
But fuel costs more than bullets. Shooting the laptop was the rational, pragmatic thing to do!
Also, deliberately destroying something with a weapon isn't violence.
maybe he just should have run it over with his car. that would have at least left out the aspect of the the gun issue.
But fuel costs more than bullets. Shooting the laptop was the rational, pragmatic thing to do!
Fuzzy
22nd February 2012, 03:52 AM
He could have cut down a tree so it landed on the laptop, then used the wood to heat their home
Hermit
22nd February 2012, 04:19 AM
Yeah, but Robert he used a gun so it's okay. It's not at all a complete over-reaction because he only shot a laptop over an entirely trivial thing.
Also, deliberately destroying something with a weapon isn't violence.
maybe he just should have run it over with his car. that would have at least left out the aspect of the the gun issue.
But fuel costs more than bullets. Shooting the laptop was the rational, pragmatic thing to do!Nine cartridges at two bucks a pop? You must be kidding. I have comprehensively disabled a computer with a screwdriver. The only expense was ten minutes of my time. At the end of that period the hard disc's platters were beyond repair, as were the computer's motherboard and chassis. Pure landfill material.
Also, deliberately destroying something with a weapon isn't violence.
maybe he just should have run it over with his car. that would have at least left out the aspect of the the gun issue.
But fuel costs more than bullets. Shooting the laptop was the rational, pragmatic thing to do!Nine cartridges at two bucks a pop? You must be kidding. I have comprehensively disabled a computer with a screwdriver. The only expense was ten minutes of my time. At the end of that period the hard disc's platters were beyond repair, as were the computer's motherboard and chassis. Pure landfill material.
Gallstones
22nd February 2012, 05:10 AM
He said the bullets cost a dollar (US) apiece.
Shooting it is way more fun that driving over it or molesting it with a screwdriver.
A grenade launcher and a jar of Tannerite would have been even cooler. It would have been shrapnel.
Shooting it is way more fun that driving over it or molesting it with a screwdriver.
A grenade launcher and a jar of Tannerite would have been even cooler. It would have been shrapnel.
Mantisdreamz
22nd February 2012, 05:38 AM
He said the bullets cost a dollar (US) apiece.
Shooting it is way more fun that driving over it or molesting it with a screwdriver.
A grenade launcher and a jar of Tannerite would have been even cooler. It would have been shrapnel.
I wonder how he would feel if his daughter shot his tv set or his car windshield for fun?
Shooting it is way more fun that driving over it or molesting it with a screwdriver.
A grenade launcher and a jar of Tannerite would have been even cooler. It would have been shrapnel.
I wonder how he would feel if his daughter shot his tv set or his car windshield for fun?
Hermit
22nd February 2012, 05:58 AM
He said the bullets cost a dollar (US) apiece.
Shooting it is way more fun that driving over it or molesting it with a screwdriver.OK, a dollar then. Does that invalidate my point?
And yes, shooting things is way more fun than rendering them unusable by dismantling them with a screwdriver. In this case the use of the firearm for fun - if that was even the motivation for it - seems a tad inappropriate, though.
Shooting it is way more fun that driving over it or molesting it with a screwdriver.OK, a dollar then. Does that invalidate my point?
And yes, shooting things is way more fun than rendering them unusable by dismantling them with a screwdriver. In this case the use of the firearm for fun - if that was even the motivation for it - seems a tad inappropriate, though.
divagreen
22nd February 2012, 06:01 AM
He said the bullets cost a dollar (US) apiece.
Shooting it is way more fun that driving over it or molesting it with a screwdriver.
A grenade launcher and a jar of Tannerite would have been even cooler. It would have been shrapnel.
I wonder how he would feel if his daughter shot his tv set or his car windshield for fun?
That is a different argument though. A parent and a child are not on equal terms which is why the censure towards this guy is so rough.
Shooting it is way more fun that driving over it or molesting it with a screwdriver.
A grenade launcher and a jar of Tannerite would have been even cooler. It would have been shrapnel.
I wonder how he would feel if his daughter shot his tv set or his car windshield for fun?
That is a different argument though. A parent and a child are not on equal terms which is why the censure towards this guy is so rough.
Grumps
22nd February 2012, 06:06 AM
Yeah, but Robert he used a gun so it's okay. It's not at all a complete over-reaction because he only shot a laptop over an entirely trivial thing.
Also, deliberately destroying something with a weapon isn't violence.
maybe he just should have run it over with his car. that would have at least left out the aspect of the the gun issue.
But fuel costs more than bullets. Shooting the laptop was the rational, pragmatic thing to do!Nine cartridges at two bucks a pop? You must be kidding. I have comprehensively disabled a computer with a screwdriver. The only expense was ten minutes of my time. At the end of that period the hard disc's platters were beyond repair, as were the computer's motherboard and chassis. Pure landfill material.
But don't you see, Seraph? Simply dismantling or removing access to the laptop isn't enough. Truly good parenting involves using a weapon to destroy it!
Also, deliberately destroying something with a weapon isn't violence.
maybe he just should have run it over with his car. that would have at least left out the aspect of the the gun issue.
But fuel costs more than bullets. Shooting the laptop was the rational, pragmatic thing to do!Nine cartridges at two bucks a pop? You must be kidding. I have comprehensively disabled a computer with a screwdriver. The only expense was ten minutes of my time. At the end of that period the hard disc's platters were beyond repair, as were the computer's motherboard and chassis. Pure landfill material.
But don't you see, Seraph? Simply dismantling or removing access to the laptop isn't enough. Truly good parenting involves using a weapon to destroy it!
Mantisdreamz
22nd February 2012, 06:37 AM
He said the bullets cost a dollar (US) apiece.
Shooting it is way more fun that driving over it or molesting it with a screwdriver.
A grenade launcher and a jar of Tannerite would have been even cooler. It would have been shrapnel.
I wonder how he would feel if his daughter shot his tv set or his car windshield for fun?
That is a different argument though. A parent and a child are not on equal terms which is why the censure towards this guy is so rough.
I was in the mind set of feeling bad for the daughter who got a personal item destroyed. And thinking, maybe it's fun for the father to do that... but, he might not know how it feels.
But also, the more I'm thinking about it now.. the more that seems kind of dramatic. After all, it is just a laptop.
Shooting it is way more fun that driving over it or molesting it with a screwdriver.
A grenade launcher and a jar of Tannerite would have been even cooler. It would have been shrapnel.
I wonder how he would feel if his daughter shot his tv set or his car windshield for fun?
That is a different argument though. A parent and a child are not on equal terms which is why the censure towards this guy is so rough.
I was in the mind set of feeling bad for the daughter who got a personal item destroyed. And thinking, maybe it's fun for the father to do that... but, he might not know how it feels.
But also, the more I'm thinking about it now.. the more that seems kind of dramatic. After all, it is just a laptop.
Jerome
22nd February 2012, 12:48 PM
But fuel costs more than bullets. Shooting the laptop was the rational, pragmatic thing to do!
Go Green! Chevy Volt!!
Go Green! Chevy Volt!!
Jerome
22nd February 2012, 12:53 PM
Pissed off professor destroys laptop with liquid nitrogen. - YouTube
Gallstones
22nd February 2012, 07:53 PM
He said the bullets cost a dollar (US) apiece.
Shooting it is way more fun that driving over it or molesting it with a screwdriver.
A grenade launcher and a jar of Tannerite would have been even cooler. It would have been shrapnel.
I wonder how he would feel if his daughter shot his tv set or his car windshield for fun?
Since the father's TV and vehicle are not her property, damaging them for fun would be vandalism and a crime.
Not the same thing as damaging one's own property.
A child can resent discipline all they want, but retribution for being disciplined is not a right.
Shooting it is way more fun that driving over it or molesting it with a screwdriver.
A grenade launcher and a jar of Tannerite would have been even cooler. It would have been shrapnel.
I wonder how he would feel if his daughter shot his tv set or his car windshield for fun?
Since the father's TV and vehicle are not her property, damaging them for fun would be vandalism and a crime.
Not the same thing as damaging one's own property.
A child can resent discipline all they want, but retribution for being disciplined is not a right.
Gallstones
22nd February 2012, 07:56 PM
He said the bullets cost a dollar (US) apiece.
Shooting it is way more fun that driving over it or molesting it with a screwdriver.OK, a dollar then. Does that invalidate my point?
And yes, shooting things is way more fun than rendering them unusable by dismantling them with a screwdriver. In this case the use of the firearm for fun - if that was even the motivation for it - seems a tad inappropriate, though.
We will persist in seeing this differently.
Shooting it is way more fun that driving over it or molesting it with a screwdriver.OK, a dollar then. Does that invalidate my point?
And yes, shooting things is way more fun than rendering them unusable by dismantling them with a screwdriver. In this case the use of the firearm for fun - if that was even the motivation for it - seems a tad inappropriate, though.
We will persist in seeing this differently.
Gallstones
22nd February 2012, 07:58 PM
Yeah, but Robert he used a gun so it's okay. It's not at all a complete over-reaction because he only shot a laptop over an entirely trivial thing.
Also, deliberately destroying something with a weapon isn't violence.
maybe he just should have run it over with his car. that would have at least left out the aspect of the the gun issue.
But fuel costs more than bullets. Shooting the laptop was the rational, pragmatic thing to do!Nine cartridges at two bucks a pop? You must be kidding. I have comprehensively disabled a computer with a screwdriver. The only expense was ten minutes of my time. At the end of that period the hard disc's platters were beyond repair, as were the computer's motherboard and chassis. Pure landfill material.
But don't you see, Seraph? Simply dismantling or removing access to the laptop isn't enough. Truly good parenting involves using a weapon to destroy it!
It was his property and it is what the guy chose to do with it.
What constitutes "good" parenting is still open for debate.
Also, deliberately destroying something with a weapon isn't violence.
maybe he just should have run it over with his car. that would have at least left out the aspect of the the gun issue.
But fuel costs more than bullets. Shooting the laptop was the rational, pragmatic thing to do!Nine cartridges at two bucks a pop? You must be kidding. I have comprehensively disabled a computer with a screwdriver. The only expense was ten minutes of my time. At the end of that period the hard disc's platters were beyond repair, as were the computer's motherboard and chassis. Pure landfill material.
But don't you see, Seraph? Simply dismantling or removing access to the laptop isn't enough. Truly good parenting involves using a weapon to destroy it!
It was his property and it is what the guy chose to do with it.
What constitutes "good" parenting is still open for debate.
Gallstones
22nd February 2012, 08:01 PM
Pissed off professor destroys laptop with liquid nitrogen. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK8B_7n1IdM)
It is a science class. He was doing science.
It is a science class. He was doing science.
Jerome
22nd February 2012, 08:12 PM
Pissed off professor destroys laptop with liquid nitrogen. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK8B_7n1IdM)
It is a science class. He was doing science.
Interesting, it looks to me like he was using embarrassment to make his point to the student, but instead of destroying his own property he destroyed anothers property.
This is much worse than what the father did.
It is a science class. He was doing science.
Interesting, it looks to me like he was using embarrassment to make his point to the student, but instead of destroying his own property he destroyed anothers property.
This is much worse than what the father did.
Gallstones
22nd February 2012, 08:47 PM
Pissed off professor destroys laptop with liquid nitrogen. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK8B_7n1IdM)
It is a science class. He was doing science.
Interesting, it looks to me like he was using embarrassment to make his point to the student, but instead of destroying his own property he destroyed anothers property.
This is much worse than what the father did.
The video doesn't tell us who the laptop belonged to.
It is a science class. He was doing science.
Interesting, it looks to me like he was using embarrassment to make his point to the student, but instead of destroying his own property he destroyed anothers property.
This is much worse than what the father did.
The video doesn't tell us who the laptop belonged to.
Jerome
22nd February 2012, 08:52 PM
Do you belong to the teaching profession Gallstones?
Gallstones
22nd February 2012, 11:00 PM
Do you belong to the teaching profession Gallstones?
I've done some teaching. :smoke:
I've done some teaching. :smoke:
Jerome
22nd February 2012, 11:43 PM
What I find interesting is that the act is not the determination for people of their reactions, it is the characters acting.
dug
23rd February 2012, 03:04 AM
good point jerome
Grumps
23rd February 2012, 03:16 AM
Yeah, but Robert he used a gun so it's okay. It's not at all a complete over-reaction because he only shot a laptop over an entirely trivial thing.
Also, deliberately destroying something with a weapon isn't violence.
maybe he just should have run it over with his car. that would have at least left out the aspect of the the gun issue.
But fuel costs more than bullets. Shooting the laptop was the rational, pragmatic thing to do!Nine cartridges at two bucks a pop? You must be kidding. I have comprehensively disabled a computer with a screwdriver. The only expense was ten minutes of my time. At the end of that period the hard disc's platters were beyond repair, as were the computer's motherboard and chassis. Pure landfill material.
But don't you see, Seraph? Simply dismantling or removing access to the laptop isn't enough. Truly good parenting involves using a weapon to destroy it!
It was his property and it is what the guy chose to do with it.
What constitutes "good" parenting is still open for debate.
Of course it is. He's perfectly rational and healthy destroying something to make a point.
Hey, everybody, next time you're in an argument just take something and shoot it! Perfectly healthy response.
Gallstones, remember those words, they're advice to live by.
Also, deliberately destroying something with a weapon isn't violence.
maybe he just should have run it over with his car. that would have at least left out the aspect of the the gun issue.
But fuel costs more than bullets. Shooting the laptop was the rational, pragmatic thing to do!Nine cartridges at two bucks a pop? You must be kidding. I have comprehensively disabled a computer with a screwdriver. The only expense was ten minutes of my time. At the end of that period the hard disc's platters were beyond repair, as were the computer's motherboard and chassis. Pure landfill material.
But don't you see, Seraph? Simply dismantling or removing access to the laptop isn't enough. Truly good parenting involves using a weapon to destroy it!
It was his property and it is what the guy chose to do with it.
What constitutes "good" parenting is still open for debate.
Of course it is. He's perfectly rational and healthy destroying something to make a point.
Hey, everybody, next time you're in an argument just take something and shoot it! Perfectly healthy response.
Gallstones, remember those words, they're advice to live by.
Gallstones
23rd February 2012, 04:03 AM
I get the feeling some people here wish some kind of retribution upon other people here just because there are differences of POV.
:coffee:
:coffee:
Gallstones
23rd February 2012, 04:07 AM
It was his property and it is what the guy chose to do with it.
What constitutes "good" parenting is still open for debate.
Of course it is. He's perfectly rational and healthy destroying something to make a point.
Hey, everybody, next time you're in an argument just take something and shoot it! Perfectly healthy response.
Gallstones, remember those words, they're advice to live by.
Are you saying that it is never rational and/or healthy to destroy something--property--in a legal manner, to make a point. Never, ever?
I must reject your advice.
IMinformedO, not every argument can be effectively settled by shooting something. There are incidents when that would be the wrong choice. So, your advice is irrational, illogical and naive.
With regards to this topic, although you have an opinion, it doesn't seem that you know what you are talking about.
What constitutes "good" parenting is still open for debate.
Of course it is. He's perfectly rational and healthy destroying something to make a point.
Hey, everybody, next time you're in an argument just take something and shoot it! Perfectly healthy response.
Gallstones, remember those words, they're advice to live by.
Are you saying that it is never rational and/or healthy to destroy something--property--in a legal manner, to make a point. Never, ever?
I must reject your advice.
IMinformedO, not every argument can be effectively settled by shooting something. There are incidents when that would be the wrong choice. So, your advice is irrational, illogical and naive.
With regards to this topic, although you have an opinion, it doesn't seem that you know what you are talking about.
Gallstones
23rd February 2012, 04:10 AM
What I find interesting is that the act is not the determination for people of their reactions, it is the characters acting.
Can you rephrase this in English?
I don't speak Gnome.
Can you rephrase this in English?
I don't speak Gnome.
Jerome
23rd February 2012, 04:24 AM
same act
two different people of different characteristics
People will relate differently depending upon the characteristics of the actor,
two different people of different characteristics
People will relate differently depending upon the characteristics of the actor,
Grumps
23rd February 2012, 06:43 AM
It was his property and it is what the guy chose to do with it.
What constitutes "good" parenting is still open for debate.
Of course it is. He's perfectly rational and healthy destroying something to make a point.
Hey, everybody, next time you're in an argument just take something and shoot it! Perfectly healthy response.
Gallstones, remember those words, they're advice to live by.
Are you saying that it is never rational and/or healthy to destroy something--property--in a legal manner, to make a point. Never, ever?
I must reject your advice.
IMinformedO, not every argument can be effectively settled by shooting something. There are incidents when that would be the wrong choice. So, your advice is irrational, illogical and naive.
With regards to this topic, although you have an opinion, it doesn't seem that you know what you are talking about.
Incorrect - all personal conflict can be resolved healthily by shooting something. This father has shown us that, as have your words.
You know some people are just born shits, so the obvious way to resolve any conflict with them is to shoot something.
What constitutes "good" parenting is still open for debate.
Of course it is. He's perfectly rational and healthy destroying something to make a point.
Hey, everybody, next time you're in an argument just take something and shoot it! Perfectly healthy response.
Gallstones, remember those words, they're advice to live by.
Are you saying that it is never rational and/or healthy to destroy something--property--in a legal manner, to make a point. Never, ever?
I must reject your advice.
IMinformedO, not every argument can be effectively settled by shooting something. There are incidents when that would be the wrong choice. So, your advice is irrational, illogical and naive.
With regards to this topic, although you have an opinion, it doesn't seem that you know what you are talking about.
Incorrect - all personal conflict can be resolved healthily by shooting something. This father has shown us that, as have your words.
You know some people are just born shits, so the obvious way to resolve any conflict with them is to shoot something.
Grumps
23rd February 2012, 06:47 AM
Context changes behaviour. The actor alone is not the only thing to take in to consideration - unless, of course, you're narrow-minded.
dug
23rd February 2012, 04:39 PM
jerome makes a good point
if this were barack obama shooting a laptop just imagine
if this were barack obama shooting a laptop just imagine
Fuzzy
23rd February 2012, 04:43 PM
OBAMA :whyyou:
Grumps
23rd February 2012, 05:02 PM
jerome makes a good point
if this were barack obama shooting a laptop just imagine
In what context?
What if it were at fun fair - hit the target and win a stuffed animal? That the target happens to be a laptop is queer, but hey, it's America.
The response would not be the same because the context is not the same.
Who the actor is happens to be irrelevant.
if this were barack obama shooting a laptop just imagine
In what context?
What if it were at fun fair - hit the target and win a stuffed animal? That the target happens to be a laptop is queer, but hey, it's America.
The response would not be the same because the context is not the same.
Who the actor is happens to be irrelevant.
dug
23rd February 2012, 05:17 PM
say if malia was all like we got maids for that mess and you ain't my real daddy...show me my birth certificate! and barack hussein whipped out his kalashnikov
democrats would be all slobbering over the newly exposed appendage of our hot islamic dictator
democrats would be all slobbering over the newly exposed appendage of our hot islamic dictator
divagreen
23rd February 2012, 06:39 PM
say if malia was all like we got maids for that mess and you ain't my real daddy...show me my birth certificate! and barack hussein whipped out his kalashnikov
democrats would be all slobbering over the newly exposed appendage of our hot islamic dictator
That doesn't quite make sense to me. Could you explain it a little bit more?
democrats would be all slobbering over the newly exposed appendage of our hot islamic dictator
That doesn't quite make sense to me. Could you explain it a little bit more?
dug
23rd February 2012, 06:46 PM
just imagine obama with his weapon at the ready, cocked and ready to blow.
i think you know what i mean. liberals are homo for that african. he could shoot a load right into our laptops and we would beg for more.
right jerome?
i think you know what i mean. liberals are homo for that african. he could shoot a load right into our laptops and we would beg for more.
right jerome?
oblivion
23rd February 2012, 07:47 PM
recycling your nanovel?
Grumps
23rd February 2012, 08:11 PM
say if malia was all like we got maids for that mess and you ain't my real daddy...show me my birth certificate! and barack hussein whipped out his kalashnikov
democrats would be all slobbering over the newly exposed appendage of our hot islamic dictator
The fuck you sayin', boy?
Sheeet, you done gon get in to the sugar again, ain't you?
democrats would be all slobbering over the newly exposed appendage of our hot islamic dictator
The fuck you sayin', boy?
Sheeet, you done gon get in to the sugar again, ain't you?
dug
23rd February 2012, 08:40 PM
recycling your nanovel?
I wish. I tried that once and realized I can't bring myself to intentionally write crap. End result: I don't write.
I had a great idea. It was going to be a reimagined history of Lee Harvey Oswald's life, told in a series of chapters that aligned with songs on the Beatles' white album, and including a number of conspiracy theories. The first chapter had him parachuting out of the Gary Powers U-2.
I wish. I tried that once and realized I can't bring myself to intentionally write crap. End result: I don't write.
I had a great idea. It was going to be a reimagined history of Lee Harvey Oswald's life, told in a series of chapters that aligned with songs on the Beatles' white album, and including a number of conspiracy theories. The first chapter had him parachuting out of the Gary Powers U-2.
Gallstones
24th February 2012, 03:18 AM
It was his property and it is what the guy chose to do with it.
What constitutes "good" parenting is still open for debate.
Of course it is. He's perfectly rational and healthy destroying something to make a point.
Hey, everybody, next time you're in an argument just take something and shoot it! Perfectly healthy response.
Gallstones, remember those words, they're advice to live by.
Are you saying that it is never rational and/or healthy to destroy something--property--in a legal manner, to make a point. Never, ever?
I must reject your advice.
IMinformedO, not every argument can be effectively settled by shooting something. There are incidents when that would be the wrong choice. So, your advice is irrational, illogical and naive.
With regards to this topic, although you have an opinion, it doesn't seem that you know what you are talking about.
Incorrect - all personal conflict can be resolved healthily by shooting something. This father has shown us that, as have your words.
You know some people are just born shits, so the obvious way to resolve any conflict with them is to shoot something.
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc319/Gallstones/Smilies/icon_picard.gif..............http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc319/Gallstones/Smilies/icon_cigar-1.gif You're pulling my leg right?
What constitutes "good" parenting is still open for debate.
Of course it is. He's perfectly rational and healthy destroying something to make a point.
Hey, everybody, next time you're in an argument just take something and shoot it! Perfectly healthy response.
Gallstones, remember those words, they're advice to live by.
Are you saying that it is never rational and/or healthy to destroy something--property--in a legal manner, to make a point. Never, ever?
I must reject your advice.
IMinformedO, not every argument can be effectively settled by shooting something. There are incidents when that would be the wrong choice. So, your advice is irrational, illogical and naive.
With regards to this topic, although you have an opinion, it doesn't seem that you know what you are talking about.
Incorrect - all personal conflict can be resolved healthily by shooting something. This father has shown us that, as have your words.
You know some people are just born shits, so the obvious way to resolve any conflict with them is to shoot something.
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc319/Gallstones/Smilies/icon_picard.gif..............http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc319/Gallstones/Smilies/icon_cigar-1.gif You're pulling my leg right?
Gallstones
24th February 2012, 03:22 AM
say if malia was all like we got maids for that mess and you ain't my real daddy...show me my birth certificate! and barack hussein whipped out his kalashnikov
democrats would be all slobbering over the newly exposed appendage of our hot islamic dictator
That doesn't quite make sense to me. Could you explain it a little bit more?
None of it makes any sense.
The words read like English but they aren't conveying coherent thoughts.
democrats would be all slobbering over the newly exposed appendage of our hot islamic dictator
That doesn't quite make sense to me. Could you explain it a little bit more?
None of it makes any sense.
The words read like English but they aren't conveying coherent thoughts.
Grumps
24th February 2012, 06:26 AM
It was his property and it is what the guy chose to do with it.
What constitutes "good" parenting is still open for debate.
Of course it is. He's perfectly rational and healthy destroying something to make a point.
Hey, everybody, next time you're in an argument just take something and shoot it! Perfectly healthy response.
Gallstones, remember those words, they're advice to live by.
Are you saying that it is never rational and/or healthy to destroy something--property--in a legal manner, to make a point. Never, ever?
I must reject your advice.
IMinformedO, not every argument can be effectively settled by shooting something. There are incidents when that would be the wrong choice. So, your advice is irrational, illogical and naive.
With regards to this topic, although you have an opinion, it doesn't seem that you know what you are talking about.
Incorrect - all personal conflict can be resolved healthily by shooting something. This father has shown us that, as have your words.
You know some people are just born shits, so the obvious way to resolve any conflict with them is to shoot something.
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc319/Gallstones/Smilies/icon_picard.gif..............http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc319/Gallstones/Smilies/icon_cigar-1.gif You're pulling my leg right?
No. I'm repeating exactly what you've said in this thread.
What constitutes "good" parenting is still open for debate.
Of course it is. He's perfectly rational and healthy destroying something to make a point.
Hey, everybody, next time you're in an argument just take something and shoot it! Perfectly healthy response.
Gallstones, remember those words, they're advice to live by.
Are you saying that it is never rational and/or healthy to destroy something--property--in a legal manner, to make a point. Never, ever?
I must reject your advice.
IMinformedO, not every argument can be effectively settled by shooting something. There are incidents when that would be the wrong choice. So, your advice is irrational, illogical and naive.
With regards to this topic, although you have an opinion, it doesn't seem that you know what you are talking about.
Incorrect - all personal conflict can be resolved healthily by shooting something. This father has shown us that, as have your words.
You know some people are just born shits, so the obvious way to resolve any conflict with them is to shoot something.
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc319/Gallstones/Smilies/icon_picard.gif..............http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc319/Gallstones/Smilies/icon_cigar-1.gif You're pulling my leg right?
No. I'm repeating exactly what you've said in this thread.
dug
24th February 2012, 04:55 PM
you guys don't get the context because you don't understand the jerome agenda yet
divagreen
24th February 2012, 05:17 PM
say if malia was all like we got maids for that mess and you ain't my real daddy...show me my birth certificate! and barack hussein whipped out his kalashnikov
democrats would be all slobbering over the newly exposed appendage of our hot islamic dictator
That doesn't quite make sense to me. Could you explain it a little bit more?
None of it makes any sense.
The words read like English but they aren't conveying coherent thoughts.
That was his point. :thumbsup:
democrats would be all slobbering over the newly exposed appendage of our hot islamic dictator
That doesn't quite make sense to me. Could you explain it a little bit more?
None of it makes any sense.
The words read like English but they aren't conveying coherent thoughts.
That was his point. :thumbsup:
Jerome
24th February 2012, 05:19 PM
Here is an example:
Clinton allowed the leasing of west coast ports to the Chinese.
Reaction from republicans was that he was committing treason.
Reaction from democrats was nil to supportive.
Bush allowed the leasing of east coast ports to middle eastern nations.
Reaction from republicans was nil to supportive.
Reaction from democrats was that he was committing treason.
Clinton allowed the leasing of west coast ports to the Chinese.
Reaction from republicans was that he was committing treason.
Reaction from democrats was nil to supportive.
Bush allowed the leasing of east coast ports to middle eastern nations.
Reaction from republicans was nil to supportive.
Reaction from democrats was that he was committing treason.
dug
24th February 2012, 06:38 PM
who could get away with shooting their daughter's laptop on youtube?
Gallstones
24th February 2012, 07:41 PM
It was his property and it is what the guy chose to do with it.
What constitutes "good" parenting is still open for debate.
Of course it is. He's perfectly rational and healthy destroying something to make a point.
Hey, everybody, next time you're in an argument just take something and shoot it! Perfectly healthy response.
Gallstones, remember those words, they're advice to live by.
Are you saying that it is never rational and/or healthy to destroy something--property--in a legal manner, to make a point. Never, ever?
I must reject your advice.
IMinformedO, not every argument can be effectively settled by shooting something. There are incidents when that would be the wrong choice. So, your advice is irrational, illogical and naive.
With regards to this topic, although you have an opinion, it doesn't seem that you know what you are talking about.
Incorrect - all personal conflict can be resolved healthily by shooting something. This father has shown us that, as have your words.
You know some people are just born shits, so the obvious way to resolve any conflict with them is to shoot something.
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc319/Gallstones/Smilies/icon_picard.gif..............http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc319/Gallstones/Smilies/icon_cigar-1.gif You're pulling my leg right?
No. I'm repeating exactly what you've said in this thread.
No, you are stuffing old clothes with straw and claiming that I am saying these things.
What constitutes "good" parenting is still open for debate.
Of course it is. He's perfectly rational and healthy destroying something to make a point.
Hey, everybody, next time you're in an argument just take something and shoot it! Perfectly healthy response.
Gallstones, remember those words, they're advice to live by.
Are you saying that it is never rational and/or healthy to destroy something--property--in a legal manner, to make a point. Never, ever?
I must reject your advice.
IMinformedO, not every argument can be effectively settled by shooting something. There are incidents when that would be the wrong choice. So, your advice is irrational, illogical and naive.
With regards to this topic, although you have an opinion, it doesn't seem that you know what you are talking about.
Incorrect - all personal conflict can be resolved healthily by shooting something. This father has shown us that, as have your words.
You know some people are just born shits, so the obvious way to resolve any conflict with them is to shoot something.
http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc319/Gallstones/Smilies/icon_picard.gif..............http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc319/Gallstones/Smilies/icon_cigar-1.gif You're pulling my leg right?
No. I'm repeating exactly what you've said in this thread.
No, you are stuffing old clothes with straw and claiming that I am saying these things.
Grumps
25th February 2012, 06:54 AM
Nonsense. You have stated that shooting the laptop is a perfectly ordinary response, and then you tried to justify the behaviour by saying that some people are just 'born shits'.
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
Some people--even some kids, especially some kids--deserve to be shamed.
Some people are born criminal. All the loving parenting in the world doesn't change that.
Need I continue?
Kids are people too, and some of them are shitty.
Some people--even some kids, especially some kids--deserve to be shamed.
Some people are born criminal. All the loving parenting in the world doesn't change that.
Need I continue?
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