Ga. judge orders president to appear at hearing page 1
Jerome
22nd January 2012, 02:02 AM
Ga. judge orders president to appear at hearing (http://www.thestate.com/2012/01/20/2121853/ga-judge-orders-president-to-appear.html)
ATLANTA — A judge has ordered President Barack Obama to appear in court in Atlanta for a hearing on a complaint that says Obama isn't a natural-born citizen and can't be president.
The hearing is set for Thursday before an administrative judge. Deputy Chief Judge Michael Malihi on Friday denied a motion by the president's lawyer to quash a subpoena that requires Obama to show up.Looks like voters do have standing.
ATLANTA — A judge has ordered President Barack Obama to appear in court in Atlanta for a hearing on a complaint that says Obama isn't a natural-born citizen and can't be president.
The hearing is set for Thursday before an administrative judge. Deputy Chief Judge Michael Malihi on Friday denied a motion by the president's lawyer to quash a subpoena that requires Obama to show up.Looks like voters do have standing.
Supernaut
22nd January 2012, 02:33 AM
What a waste of taxpayer dollars.
Hermit
22nd January 2012, 02:44 AM
That old canard again. I'd call it abuse of due process.
It's one of many such lawsuits that have been filed across the country, so far without success. A Georgia resident made the complaint, which is intended to keep Obama's name off the state's ballot in the March presidential primary.
Read more here: http://www.thestate.com/2012/01/20/2121853/ga-judge-orders-president-to-appear.html#storylink=cpy
It's one of many such lawsuits that have been filed across the country, so far without success. A Georgia resident made the complaint, which is intended to keep Obama's name off the state's ballot in the March presidential primary.
Read more here: http://www.thestate.com/2012/01/20/2121853/ga-judge-orders-president-to-appear.html#storylink=cpy
Mr. Mellow
22nd January 2012, 05:07 AM
FFS, what other motive could there be for this bullshit that racism? The obvious burns.
Jerome
22nd January 2012, 12:45 PM
FFS, what other motive could there be for this bullshit that racism? The obvious burns.
Was it racism when McCain was bothered about his citizenship status because he was born in Panama?
Was it racism when McCain was bothered about his citizenship status because he was born in Panama?
Mr. Mellow
22nd January 2012, 05:26 PM
FFS, what other motive could there be for this bullshit that racism? The obvious burns.
Was it racism when McCain was bothered about his citizenship status because he was born in Panama?
That was revenge.
Was it racism when McCain was bothered about his citizenship status because he was born in Panama?
That was revenge.
Jerome
22nd January 2012, 08:08 PM
How, the McCain question came up first, in fact Obama and Clinton signed a Senate resolution stating he was natural born.
Mr. Mellow
22nd January 2012, 09:31 PM
(Makes note to insert smilie next time.) Thank you for the information.
nostrum
23rd January 2012, 04:51 PM
:munch:
ericv00
23rd January 2012, 05:34 PM
What a waste of taxpayer dollars.
:nada:
:nada:
Brother Daniel
23rd January 2012, 07:19 PM
Was it racism when McCain was bothered about his citizenship status because he was born in Panama?
The issue of McCain having been born in Panama didn't spawn a movement.
The (non)issue of Obama having allegedly been born somewhere other than Hawaii spawned a movement.
Racism seems the most likely explanation for that difference.
The issue of McCain having been born in Panama didn't spawn a movement.
The (non)issue of Obama having allegedly been born somewhere other than Hawaii spawned a movement.
Racism seems the most likely explanation for that difference.
Jerome
23rd January 2012, 08:30 PM
No, it has to do with Obama's father being a Subject of the British Crown when Obama was born. 'Natural born citizen' refers to a natural alliance to a nation at birth, not where someone is born. Obama was born with dual alliance and dual citizenship.
The claim is not that he is not a citizen.
The claim is not that he is not a citizen.
Brother Daniel
24th January 2012, 01:28 PM
No. Most of the noise made by the birther movement is about Obama's place of birth. Specifically, they generally deny that he was born in Hawai'i.
Only the very persistent birthers, having had their claims about Obama's birthplace debunked, move on to such desperate measures as trying to pretend that being a "natural born citizen" of the US could possibly mean anything different from being a US citizen by birth, or that it could possibly exclude someone born on US soil to a mother who's a US citizen.
No such desperation was ever on display by anyone talking about McCain's candidacy.
Hence the suspicion that racism plays a role.
Only the very persistent birthers, having had their claims about Obama's birthplace debunked, move on to such desperate measures as trying to pretend that being a "natural born citizen" of the US could possibly mean anything different from being a US citizen by birth, or that it could possibly exclude someone born on US soil to a mother who's a US citizen.
No such desperation was ever on display by anyone talking about McCain's candidacy.
Hence the suspicion that racism plays a role.
Jerome
24th January 2012, 10:18 PM
The first law suit was brought by the former asst Attorney General of Pennsylvania, a Democrat, a lifetime ACLU member and a Clinton supporter, during the nomination process. The nationality of his father and his being born a Subject of the British Crown has always been the problem.
Brother Daniel
24th January 2012, 11:30 PM
bullshit. :)
Jerome
24th January 2012, 11:41 PM
Philip J. Berg (born April 13, 1944) is an American activist attorney who brought a RICO lawsuit charging president George W. Bush (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_W._Bush)
Berg has involved himself with several controversial political cases. In 2001 he demanded the disbarment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disbarment) of U.S. Supreme Court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Supreme_Court) Justices Sandra Day O'Connor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Day_O%27Connor), Antonin Scalia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonin_Scalia), and Clarence Thomas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Thomas) due to their participation in the case Bush v. Gore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore).
Berg filed a complaint in federal district court on August 21, 2008, against Democratic Party presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama), the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission
(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 08/21/08) – Philip J. Berg, Esquire, [Berg is a
former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania; former candidate for Governor and
U.S. Senate in Democratic Primaries; former Chair of the Democratic Party in
Montgomery County; former member of Democratic State Committee; an attorney with
offices in Montgomery County, PA and an active practice in Philadelphia, PA
You can contact him if you don't believe me:
555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
Cell (610) 662-3005
(610) 825-3134
(800) 993-PHIL [7445]
Fax (610) 834-7659
philjberg@gmail.com
Berg has involved himself with several controversial political cases. In 2001 he demanded the disbarment (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disbarment) of U.S. Supreme Court (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Supreme_Court) Justices Sandra Day O'Connor (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandra_Day_O%27Connor), Antonin Scalia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonin_Scalia), and Clarence Thomas (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Thomas) due to their participation in the case Bush v. Gore (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore).
Berg filed a complaint in federal district court on August 21, 2008, against Democratic Party presidential nominee Senator Barack Obama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama), the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission
(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 08/21/08) – Philip J. Berg, Esquire, [Berg is a
former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania; former candidate for Governor and
U.S. Senate in Democratic Primaries; former Chair of the Democratic Party in
Montgomery County; former member of Democratic State Committee; an attorney with
offices in Montgomery County, PA and an active practice in Philadelphia, PA
You can contact him if you don't believe me:
555 Andorra Glen Court, Suite 12
Lafayette Hill, PA 19444-2531
Cell (610) 662-3005
(610) 825-3134
(800) 993-PHIL [7445]
Fax (610) 834-7659
philjberg@gmail.com
Jerome
25th January 2012, 12:51 AM
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Brother Daniel
25th January 2012, 02:30 PM
When I said "bullshit", I was referring to the second sentence of your preceding post, not to the first.
laklak
26th January 2012, 06:31 PM
Waste of time and money. SCOTUS needs to hear this on an expedited basis and rule, once and for all, exactly what "natural born" means. Otherwise we'll just keep dealing with this horseshit, over and over again.
EDIT the worst part of this is those of us who oppose Obama on political and philosophical grounds are tarred with the "birther" and/or "racist" brush. I don't like the guy's politics, I wouldn't like his politics if he was a 3 foot 2 inch green dwarf born on the ISS to an Orion slave girl and a Romulan.
EDIT the worst part of this is those of us who oppose Obama on political and philosophical grounds are tarred with the "birther" and/or "racist" brush. I don't like the guy's politics, I wouldn't like his politics if he was a 3 foot 2 inch green dwarf born on the ISS to an Orion slave girl and a Romulan.
Jerome
26th January 2012, 07:10 PM
Obama uses a social security number issued in Connecticut despite never having lived there.
His mother's immigration papers list her sons' name as Barry Soetoro.
His mother's immigration papers list her sons' name as Barry Soetoro.
nick
26th January 2012, 07:15 PM
Barack HUSSEIN obama
Brother Daniel
27th January 2012, 02:32 AM
Obama uses a social security number issued in Connecticut despite never having lived there.
His mother's immigration papers list her sons' name as Barry Soetoro.
Thanks for admitting that it isn't really about his father being from the Empire.
His mother's immigration papers list her sons' name as Barry Soetoro.
Thanks for admitting that it isn't really about his father being from the Empire.
Jerome
27th January 2012, 02:34 AM
lol
that was the first presentation at 9am, judge had already decided and was bored for the next hour and a half.
that was the first presentation at 9am, judge had already decided and was bored for the next hour and a half.
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