Janitor sign up.. page 1
Magicziggy
6th February 2012, 10:35 AM
Who is interested? I'm not pulling my weight because 95% of my online time is phone posting. I think I've created one sub forum in the whole time since inception. It is obvious to me that oblivion gives over a great deal of time to maintain this forum. If someone has complementary skills or the aptitude to learn them, speak up. That someone should also be prepared to maintain the core values of the forum.
Gonzo
6th February 2012, 11:54 AM
If I could be called 'The Mafia Overlord', that'd be great.
Gonzo
6th February 2012, 11:54 AM
Also, Bart Rob for janitor.
nick
6th February 2012, 12:29 PM
I'll do it.
charlou
6th February 2012, 02:02 PM
I'll get behind you, nick :)
Exi5tentialist
6th February 2012, 06:12 PM
I would love to be a janitor. Of the devogue variety.... in the first six days God made the Forum, and on the seventh day he buggered off
Hermit
6th February 2012, 06:26 PM
In!
ksen
6th February 2012, 06:44 PM
I second Nick for janitor.
Hermit
6th February 2012, 07:06 PM
I nominate FedUpWithFaith. In fact, he is so busy telling us how this forum should be run, I think he should be appointed Senior Janitor after a probationary period as Assistant (to the)* Janitor.
Shall we have a poll?
*Office reference.
Shall we have a poll?
*Office reference.
divagreen
6th February 2012, 07:19 PM
I second the nomination of FedUpWithFaith. :)
ksen
6th February 2012, 09:02 PM
I nominate FedUpWithFaith. In fact, he is so busy telling us how this forum should be run, I think he should be appointed Senior Janitor after a probationary period as Assistant (to the)* Janitor.
Shall we have a poll?
*Office reference.
Do we really want someone in there who thinks he knows how this place should run?
Shall we have a poll?
*Office reference.
Do we really want someone in there who thinks he knows how this place should run?
borealis
6th February 2012, 11:14 PM
I nominate FedUpWithFaith. In fact, he is so busy telling us how this forum should be run, I think he should be appointed Senior Janitor after a probationary period as Assistant (to the)* Janitor.
Shall we have a poll?
*Office reference.
Do we really want someone in there who thinks he knows how this place should run?
Do we really want nick in there with his fingers on the buttons the next time he gets bored?
Shall we have a poll?
*Office reference.
Do we really want someone in there who thinks he knows how this place should run?
Do we really want nick in there with his fingers on the buttons the next time he gets bored?
ksen
6th February 2012, 11:28 PM
Do we really want nick in there with his fingers on the buttons the next time he gets bored?
I'd rather have that then a tysixtus clone who "knows best."
I'd rather have that then a tysixtus clone who "knows best."
FedUpWithFaith
7th February 2012, 01:14 AM
I second the nomination of FedUpWithFaith. :)
Bitch
Admins get too much abuse. I should know.
Bitch
Admins get too much abuse. I should know.
oblivion
7th February 2012, 01:16 AM
borealis and/or divagreen
divagreen
7th February 2012, 01:16 AM
:p
eta: wait what. the :p was directed at FUWF.
eta: wait what. the :p was directed at FUWF.
oblivion
7th February 2012, 01:17 AM
though if there's a php/vbulletin/mysql expert in the house, fuck you all, I'll vote for them.
Jerome
7th February 2012, 01:18 AM
I don't think I support a FedUp staff position, you seem to have an agenda, one that I don't necessarily disagree with, but I am against agendas in general.
Adenosine
7th February 2012, 01:22 AM
though if there's a php/vbulletin/mysql expert in the house, fuck you all, I'll vote for them.
:nada:
:nada:
charlou
7th February 2012, 01:31 AM
though if there's a php/vbulletin/mysql expert in the house, fuck you all, I'll vote for them.
:nada:
So long as that person maintains the forum values, or is completely neutral, yes.
:nada:
So long as that person maintains the forum values, or is completely neutral, yes.
oblivion
7th February 2012, 01:32 AM
though if there's a php/vbulletin/mysql expert in the house, fuck you all, I'll vote for them.
:nada:
So long as that person maintains the forum values, or is completely neutral, yes.
Actually, in the role of code monkey that's more important than skillz.
:nada:
So long as that person maintains the forum values, or is completely neutral, yes.
Actually, in the role of code monkey that's more important than skillz.
FedUpWithFaith
7th February 2012, 01:33 AM
I nominate FedUpWithFaith. In fact, he is so busy telling us how this forum should be run, I think he should be appointed Senior Janitor after a probationary period as Assistant (to the)* Janitor.
Shall we have a poll?
*Office reference.
I'm tempted to call your bluff just to see you shit bricks. :smug:
But then I realized you wouldn't because Admins here really pretty much are janitors - which is great!! I wonder... would I get all sorts of make-work jobs to keep me quiet? :yes:
I don't see how I'd really contribute to running the forum by being a Admin/janitor, because right now nobody runs it unless something really unusual happened that proved the core values are incomplete in rule derivation. In that case I'd expect to have no more say then regular forum members with Eloise having the final or only executive say.
So in terms of anything theoretically meaningful wrt management, I doubt I'd have any more impact as an admin than as a member. And that's a reason I love how this place is set up.
That said, if you're serious and really need help cleaning the toilet and mopping up I'm willing to help awhile. But please give the job to people who want it first. I can put in some time if you really need me but i may not be reliable time-wise for much longer..
If you do make me "whatever" on the Admin/mod page You should probably give me a different screen name. I don't think seeing "FUWF" would be a good thing for many newcomers to see. We need new members.
Shall we have a poll?
*Office reference.
I'm tempted to call your bluff just to see you shit bricks. :smug:
But then I realized you wouldn't because Admins here really pretty much are janitors - which is great!! I wonder... would I get all sorts of make-work jobs to keep me quiet? :yes:
I don't see how I'd really contribute to running the forum by being a Admin/janitor, because right now nobody runs it unless something really unusual happened that proved the core values are incomplete in rule derivation. In that case I'd expect to have no more say then regular forum members with Eloise having the final or only executive say.
So in terms of anything theoretically meaningful wrt management, I doubt I'd have any more impact as an admin than as a member. And that's a reason I love how this place is set up.
That said, if you're serious and really need help cleaning the toilet and mopping up I'm willing to help awhile. But please give the job to people who want it first. I can put in some time if you really need me but i may not be reliable time-wise for much longer..
If you do make me "whatever" on the Admin/mod page You should probably give me a different screen name. I don't think seeing "FUWF" would be a good thing for many newcomers to see. We need new members.
Supernaut
7th February 2012, 02:35 AM
borealis and/or divagreen
I support both of these nominees!
I support both of these nominees!
Fuzzy
7th February 2012, 02:42 AM
I support nick.
FedUpWithFaith
7th February 2012, 02:46 AM
I support anybody but me.
Adenosine
7th February 2012, 02:49 AM
Just a question, do we need another janitor at the moment?
Hermit
7th February 2012, 02:57 AM
I'm tempted to call your bluff just to see you shit bricks. :smug:
Enjoy the wait. The user groups of Assistant (to the) Janitor and Senior Janitor that are about to be custom-created for you will have a special set of permissions. It is identical to the one applying to us ordinary members, except for its lack of access to postcard messaging, commenting and emailing.
Enjoy the wait. The user groups of Assistant (to the) Janitor and Senior Janitor that are about to be custom-created for you will have a special set of permissions. It is identical to the one applying to us ordinary members, except for its lack of access to postcard messaging, commenting and emailing.
Gonzo
7th February 2012, 03:16 AM
how many janitors do we really need? the membership is still small. I think we already have enough, really. Almost too many, even. In proportion to the forum's size.
Gonzo
7th February 2012, 03:16 AM
Just a question, do we need another janitor at the moment?
please struggle to answer this.
please struggle to answer this.
oblivion
7th February 2012, 03:29 AM
I think the primary "work" of janitors is in helping to keep the forum interesting via new threads and discussion in current threads. Also, modeling the ethos and core values of the site in forum behaviors.
From one perspective, you can't have too many. From the perspective of mashing buttons, very little of that is needed at the moment.
From one perspective, you can't have too many. From the perspective of mashing buttons, very little of that is needed at the moment.
Gonzo
7th February 2012, 03:37 AM
can't have too many?
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
oblivion
7th February 2012, 03:47 AM
can't have too many?
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Adenosine
7th February 2012, 04:00 AM
Just a question, do we need another janitor at the moment?
please struggle to answer this.
idgi
please struggle to answer this.
idgi
Magicziggy
7th February 2012, 09:55 AM
can't have too many?
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
I don't feel obliged to post new and interesting content because I'm a janitor. The only reason I feel a bit supernumerary is because I don't do any janitorial work because I'm never at a work station to do it.
Having the admin panel is a bit of a waste on me.. Although I'll always help out when I can. Taking away the admin panel won't change my interaction with the forum at all. I'll post as I feel like it.. I'll donate if money is needed.. I'll work to maintain the values that have been established.
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
I don't feel obliged to post new and interesting content because I'm a janitor. The only reason I feel a bit supernumerary is because I don't do any janitorial work because I'm never at a work station to do it.
Having the admin panel is a bit of a waste on me.. Although I'll always help out when I can. Taking away the admin panel won't change my interaction with the forum at all. I'll post as I feel like it.. I'll donate if money is needed.. I'll work to maintain the values that have been established.
ksen
7th February 2012, 12:34 PM
can't have too many?
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Did that come out how you meant it?
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Did that come out how you meant it?
borealis
7th February 2012, 05:02 PM
I think the primary "work" of janitors is in helping to keep the forum interesting via new threads and discussion in current threads. Also, modeling the ethos and core values of the site in forum behaviors.
From one perspective, you can't have too many. From the perspective of mashing buttons, very little of that is needed at the moment.
I naturally can't help but make threads and argue with people. No need for a title. :nope:
I'd rather not be poking around in the buttons just yet, thanks.
From one perspective, you can't have too many. From the perspective of mashing buttons, very little of that is needed at the moment.
I naturally can't help but make threads and argue with people. No need for a title. :nope:
I'd rather not be poking around in the buttons just yet, thanks.
FedUpWithFaith
7th February 2012, 05:05 PM
I'm tempted to call your bluff just to see you shit bricks. :smug:
Enjoy the wait. The user groups of Assistant (to the) Janitor and Senior Janitor that are about to be custom-created for you will have a special set of permissions. It is identical to the one applying to us ordinary members, except for its lack of access to postcard messaging, commenting and emailing.
Hahahahaha you are such a CARD!!!:no:
We all know you have no such power or access. oh, wait....
Enjoy the wait. The user groups of Assistant (to the) Janitor and Senior Janitor that are about to be custom-created for you will have a special set of permissions. It is identical to the one applying to us ordinary members, except for its lack of access to postcard messaging, commenting and emailing.
Hahahahaha you are such a CARD!!!:no:
We all know you have no such power or access. oh, wait....
oblivion
7th February 2012, 05:15 PM
can't have too many?
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Did that come out how you meant it?
I dunno. rereading it, I think so. maybe there's a layered meaning that I didn't consider and still don't see.
I'm talking about my expectation of myself and of other janitors -- which is to not just mash buttons, but to promote the ethos and values, and to do what we can to help make the site successful from a content perspective.
In other words, unlike TR where staff are not held to a different standard from members, here at MindRomp, for now, there is an expectation of more - particularly in the promoting the ethos and values in what we post. It's there in the discussions in the Our core values values and responsibilities codified.. (http://mindromp.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6) forum.
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Did that come out how you meant it?
I dunno. rereading it, I think so. maybe there's a layered meaning that I didn't consider and still don't see.
I'm talking about my expectation of myself and of other janitors -- which is to not just mash buttons, but to promote the ethos and values, and to do what we can to help make the site successful from a content perspective.
In other words, unlike TR where staff are not held to a different standard from members, here at MindRomp, for now, there is an expectation of more - particularly in the promoting the ethos and values in what we post. It's there in the discussions in the Our core values values and responsibilities codified.. (http://mindromp.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6) forum.
FedUpWithFaith
7th February 2012, 05:19 PM
can't have too many?
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Did that come out how you meant it?
I dunno. rereading it, I think so. maybe there's a layered meaning that I didn't consider and still don't see.
I'm talking about my expectation of myself and of other janitors -- which is to not just mash buttons, but to promote the ethos and values, and to do what we can to help make the site successful from a content perspective.
In other words, unlike TR where staff are not held to a different standard from members, here at MindRomp, for now, there is an expectation of more - particularly in the promoting the ethos and values in what we post. It's there in the discussions in the Our core values values and responsibilities codified.. (http://mindromp.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6) forum.
Doesn't that sort of fuck up the no-hierarchy thingy? It's a janitor job and that's all it should be. The minute you give it more, you're on the road to hell paved with good intentions. I want my janitors to be just like everybody else. I don't want to have to look up to them or down onto them.
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Did that come out how you meant it?
I dunno. rereading it, I think so. maybe there's a layered meaning that I didn't consider and still don't see.
I'm talking about my expectation of myself and of other janitors -- which is to not just mash buttons, but to promote the ethos and values, and to do what we can to help make the site successful from a content perspective.
In other words, unlike TR where staff are not held to a different standard from members, here at MindRomp, for now, there is an expectation of more - particularly in the promoting the ethos and values in what we post. It's there in the discussions in the Our core values values and responsibilities codified.. (http://mindromp.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6) forum.
Doesn't that sort of fuck up the no-hierarchy thingy? It's a janitor job and that's all it should be. The minute you give it more, you're on the road to hell paved with good intentions. I want my janitors to be just like everybody else. I don't want to have to look up to them or down onto them.
oblivion
7th February 2012, 05:26 PM
can't have too many?
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Did that come out how you meant it?
I dunno. rereading it, I think so. maybe there's a layered meaning that I didn't consider and still don't see.
I'm talking about my expectation of myself and of other janitors -- which is to not just mash buttons, but to promote the ethos and values, and to do what we can to help make the site successful from a content perspective.
In other words, unlike TR where staff are not held to a different standard from members, here at MindRomp, for now, there is an expectation of more - particularly in the promoting the ethos and values in what we post. It's there in the discussions in the Our core values values and responsibilities codified.. (http://mindromp.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6) forum.
Doesn't that sort of fuck up the no-hierarchy thingy? It's a janitor job and that's all it should be. The minute you give it more, you're on the road to hell paved with good intentions. I want my janitors to be just like everybody else. I don't want to have to look up to them or down onto them.
I don't want anyone to look up to me because of buttons, though. If I earn respect based on my behavior, so be it. If I don't, then it's my problem. Not the problem of people who don't find reason to respect me.
It's an internal thing to me. Not external. I don't see respect and hierarchy as connected.
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Did that come out how you meant it?
I dunno. rereading it, I think so. maybe there's a layered meaning that I didn't consider and still don't see.
I'm talking about my expectation of myself and of other janitors -- which is to not just mash buttons, but to promote the ethos and values, and to do what we can to help make the site successful from a content perspective.
In other words, unlike TR where staff are not held to a different standard from members, here at MindRomp, for now, there is an expectation of more - particularly in the promoting the ethos and values in what we post. It's there in the discussions in the Our core values values and responsibilities codified.. (http://mindromp.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6) forum.
Doesn't that sort of fuck up the no-hierarchy thingy? It's a janitor job and that's all it should be. The minute you give it more, you're on the road to hell paved with good intentions. I want my janitors to be just like everybody else. I don't want to have to look up to them or down onto them.
I don't want anyone to look up to me because of buttons, though. If I earn respect based on my behavior, so be it. If I don't, then it's my problem. Not the problem of people who don't find reason to respect me.
It's an internal thing to me. Not external. I don't see respect and hierarchy as connected.
FedUpWithFaith
7th February 2012, 05:33 PM
can't have too many?
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Did that come out how you meant it?
I dunno. rereading it, I think so. maybe there's a layered meaning that I didn't consider and still don't see.
I'm talking about my expectation of myself and of other janitors -- which is to not just mash buttons, but to promote the ethos and values, and to do what we can to help make the site successful from a content perspective.
In other words, unlike TR where staff are not held to a different standard from members, here at MindRomp, for now, there is an expectation of more - particularly in the promoting the ethos and values in what we post. It's there in the discussions in the Our core values values and responsibilities codified.. (http://mindromp.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6) forum.
Doesn't that sort of fuck up the no-hierarchy thingy? It's a janitor job and that's all it should be. The minute you give it more, you're on the road to hell paved with good intentions. I want my janitors to be just like everybody else. I don't want to have to look up to them or down onto them.
I don't want anyone to look up to me because of buttons, though. If I earn respect based on my behavior, so be it. If I don't, then it's my problem. Not the problem of people who don't find reason to respect me.
It's an internal thing to me. Not external. I don't see respect and hierarchy as connected.
The only thing we need to trust janitors for is that they use buttons responsibly to clean up. Otherwise, you should post no differently as a janitor than as a regular member. If taking an admin or mod role, in and of itself, causes people to distinguish their behavior from how they would have behaved as a "normal" serf member, then that creates a hierarchy and that's bad.
We don't need forum nannies starting topics or moving discussion forward. If you want to create a thread great, you should want to do it simply as an active member.
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Did that come out how you meant it?
I dunno. rereading it, I think so. maybe there's a layered meaning that I didn't consider and still don't see.
I'm talking about my expectation of myself and of other janitors -- which is to not just mash buttons, but to promote the ethos and values, and to do what we can to help make the site successful from a content perspective.
In other words, unlike TR where staff are not held to a different standard from members, here at MindRomp, for now, there is an expectation of more - particularly in the promoting the ethos and values in what we post. It's there in the discussions in the Our core values values and responsibilities codified.. (http://mindromp.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6) forum.
Doesn't that sort of fuck up the no-hierarchy thingy? It's a janitor job and that's all it should be. The minute you give it more, you're on the road to hell paved with good intentions. I want my janitors to be just like everybody else. I don't want to have to look up to them or down onto them.
I don't want anyone to look up to me because of buttons, though. If I earn respect based on my behavior, so be it. If I don't, then it's my problem. Not the problem of people who don't find reason to respect me.
It's an internal thing to me. Not external. I don't see respect and hierarchy as connected.
The only thing we need to trust janitors for is that they use buttons responsibly to clean up. Otherwise, you should post no differently as a janitor than as a regular member. If taking an admin or mod role, in and of itself, causes people to distinguish their behavior from how they would have behaved as a "normal" serf member, then that creates a hierarchy and that's bad.
We don't need forum nannies starting topics or moving discussion forward. If you want to create a thread great, you should want to do it simply as an active member.
ksen
7th February 2012, 05:37 PM
can't have too many?
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Did that come out how you meant it?
I dunno. rereading it, I think so. maybe there's a layered meaning that I didn't consider and still don't see.
I'm talking about my expectation of myself and of other janitors -- which is to not just mash buttons, but to promote the ethos and values, and to do what we can to help make the site successful from a content perspective.
In other words, unlike TR where staff are not held to a different standard from members, here at MindRomp, for now, there is an expectation of more - particularly in the promoting the ethos and values in what we post. It's there in the discussions in the Our core values values and responsibilities codified.. (http://mindromp.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6) forum.
It just feels like something I would read over at FRDB.
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Did that come out how you meant it?
I dunno. rereading it, I think so. maybe there's a layered meaning that I didn't consider and still don't see.
I'm talking about my expectation of myself and of other janitors -- which is to not just mash buttons, but to promote the ethos and values, and to do what we can to help make the site successful from a content perspective.
In other words, unlike TR where staff are not held to a different standard from members, here at MindRomp, for now, there is an expectation of more - particularly in the promoting the ethos and values in what we post. It's there in the discussions in the Our core values values and responsibilities codified.. (http://mindromp.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6) forum.
It just feels like something I would read over at FRDB.
oblivion
7th February 2012, 05:54 PM
can't have too many?
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Did that come out how you meant it?
I dunno. rereading it, I think so. maybe there's a layered meaning that I didn't consider and still don't see.
I'm talking about my expectation of myself and of other janitors -- which is to not just mash buttons, but to promote the ethos and values, and to do what we can to help make the site successful from a content perspective.
In other words, unlike TR where staff are not held to a different standard from members, here at MindRomp, for now, there is an expectation of more - particularly in the promoting the ethos and values in what we post. It's there in the discussions in the Our core values values and responsibilities codified.. (http://mindromp.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6) forum.
It just feels like something I would read over at FRDB.
:noo:
I get what you are saying.
I hope you get what I am saying. Any member of MindRomp is free to make whatever value judgements they like about janitors and what they expect of them, and to make value judgements about the standards they hold themselves to.
I am no different. And I don't think I should be expected to be quiet about my value judgements. I think it's better that they are out there, for people to know. There's a problem if I use the buttons or anything else related to being a janitor to promote my value judgements.
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Did that come out how you meant it?
I dunno. rereading it, I think so. maybe there's a layered meaning that I didn't consider and still don't see.
I'm talking about my expectation of myself and of other janitors -- which is to not just mash buttons, but to promote the ethos and values, and to do what we can to help make the site successful from a content perspective.
In other words, unlike TR where staff are not held to a different standard from members, here at MindRomp, for now, there is an expectation of more - particularly in the promoting the ethos and values in what we post. It's there in the discussions in the Our core values values and responsibilities codified.. (http://mindromp.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6) forum.
It just feels like something I would read over at FRDB.
:noo:
I get what you are saying.
I hope you get what I am saying. Any member of MindRomp is free to make whatever value judgements they like about janitors and what they expect of them, and to make value judgements about the standards they hold themselves to.
I am no different. And I don't think I should be expected to be quiet about my value judgements. I think it's better that they are out there, for people to know. There's a problem if I use the buttons or anything else related to being a janitor to promote my value judgements.
ksen
7th February 2012, 06:04 PM
can't have too many?
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Did that come out how you meant it?
I dunno. rereading it, I think so. maybe there's a layered meaning that I didn't consider and still don't see.
I'm talking about my expectation of myself and of other janitors -- which is to not just mash buttons, but to promote the ethos and values, and to do what we can to help make the site successful from a content perspective.
In other words, unlike TR where staff are not held to a different standard from members, here at MindRomp, for now, there is an expectation of more - particularly in the promoting the ethos and values in what we post. It's there in the discussions in the Our core values values and responsibilities codified.. (http://mindromp.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6) forum.
It just feels like something I would read over at FRDB.
:noo:
I get what you are saying.
I hope you get what I am saying. Any member of MindRomp is free to make whatever value judgements they like about janitors and what they expect of them, and to make value judgements about the standards they hold themselves to.
I am no different. And I don't think I should be expected to be quiet about my value judgements. I think it's better that they are out there, for people to know. There's a problem if I use the buttons or anything else related to being a janitor to promote my value judgements.
I do get what you are saying.
That comment just made me do a doubletake so I thought I'd ask. I know you wouldn't want a forum to run anywhere near the way FRDB is run.
:hug:
Why don't you just make everyone a janitor then? It could be like a worker's commune...
it would be really cool if everyone did that. but nobody has to, unless they are janitors.
Did that come out how you meant it?
I dunno. rereading it, I think so. maybe there's a layered meaning that I didn't consider and still don't see.
I'm talking about my expectation of myself and of other janitors -- which is to not just mash buttons, but to promote the ethos and values, and to do what we can to help make the site successful from a content perspective.
In other words, unlike TR where staff are not held to a different standard from members, here at MindRomp, for now, there is an expectation of more - particularly in the promoting the ethos and values in what we post. It's there in the discussions in the Our core values values and responsibilities codified.. (http://mindromp.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=6) forum.
It just feels like something I would read over at FRDB.
:noo:
I get what you are saying.
I hope you get what I am saying. Any member of MindRomp is free to make whatever value judgements they like about janitors and what they expect of them, and to make value judgements about the standards they hold themselves to.
I am no different. And I don't think I should be expected to be quiet about my value judgements. I think it's better that they are out there, for people to know. There's a problem if I use the buttons or anything else related to being a janitor to promote my value judgements.
I do get what you are saying.
That comment just made me do a doubletake so I thought I'd ask. I know you wouldn't want a forum to run anywhere near the way FRDB is run.
:hug:
charlou
7th February 2012, 10:17 PM
janitor work is neutral .. the individuals who are janitors need to be either neutral or support the forum ethos. There's no requirement for more than that from janitors.
Before the forum was opened to everyone, it was discussed and agreed by the founders (the current janitors) that seeding the forum with topics and setting/modelling the tone is important. That's something we agreed as the individuals present at the time, in order to best kick the forum off.
Before the forum was opened to everyone, it was discussed and agreed by the founders (the current janitors) that seeding the forum with topics and setting/modelling the tone is important. That's something we agreed as the individuals present at the time, in order to best kick the forum off.
Jerome
7th February 2012, 11:40 PM
In total, what is the approximate number of clean-ups done since inception?
gib
8th February 2012, 10:48 AM
I support nick.
:nada:
:nada:
FedUpWithFaith
8th February 2012, 11:34 AM
It was Nick's birthday yesterday.
Floppit
8th February 2012, 04:45 PM
Do you need to be techy? If you ever fancied a techno dunce with irregular amounts of time....
yeah, not selling it am I?
yeah, not selling it am I?
Grumps
9th February 2012, 08:51 PM
I nominate me.
I got kicked out of my last role for not being polite enough.
I got kicked out of my last role for not being polite enough.
ksen
9th February 2012, 09:17 PM
I nominate me.
I got kicked out of my last role for not being polite enough.
Sgt. Hartman?
I got kicked out of my last role for not being polite enough.
Sgt. Hartman?
Jerome
9th February 2012, 10:41 PM
:D:rofl::D
charlou
10th February 2012, 07:01 AM
I nominate me.
Seconded.
Seconded.
Adenosine
10th February 2012, 12:05 PM
I nominate ksen. If he already hasn't been.
Jerome
10th February 2012, 01:49 PM
I second Sgt. Hartman.
Grumps
10th February 2012, 03:08 PM
I nominate me.
I got kicked out of my last role for not being polite enough.
Sgt. Hartman?
I don't think so.
Was I ever?
I got kicked out of my last role for not being polite enough.
Sgt. Hartman?
I don't think so.
Was I ever?
Magicziggy
15th March 2012, 07:42 AM
I don't think I support a FedUp staff position, you seem to have an agenda, one that I don't necessarily disagree with, but I am against agendas in general.
Jerome, I think you should have the admin panel as you take an active interest in the forum management.
Could we come up with a process for Jerome to be given a mop if agrees.
Jerome, I think you should have the admin panel as you take an active interest in the forum management.
Could we come up with a process for Jerome to be given a mop if agrees.
Adenosine
15th March 2012, 08:50 AM
Admin or moderator? Or ask the audience?
I think ask the audience.
I think ask the audience.
charlou
15th March 2012, 10:58 AM
we don't have a need for mods, just admin/janitors :)
btw, where's grumps?
btw, where's grumps?
Exi5tentialist
15th March 2012, 06:15 PM
I killed him. Nick told me to.
ksen
15th March 2012, 06:42 PM
btw, where's grumps?
anger management camp
anger management camp
Adenosine
15th March 2012, 09:58 PM
I killed him. Nick told me to.
Will America outsource everything?
Will America outsource everything?
Magicziggy
26th March 2012, 10:24 AM
Has Jerome been made a janitor yet? I cant do it from my phone. Someone do it.
Hermit
26th March 2012, 11:47 AM
Has Jerome been made a janitor yet? I cant do it from my phone. Someone do it.
Nick first, K?
Oops. Typo.
Nick first, K?
Oops. Typo.
charlou
28th March 2012, 06:54 AM
Has Jerome been made a janitor yet? I cant do it from my phone. Someone do it.
Did it.
Did it.
Adenosine
28th March 2012, 07:34 AM
orse
nick
28th March 2012, 12:00 PM
Yeah, I'll do it.
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