MindRomp Mafia - Day 2 page 1
oblivion
19th January 2012, 12:18 AM
You wake up to the sound of gunfire, yells and screams outside. Once things quiet down, you cautiously make your way through the neighborhood trying to figure out what it was all about.
You find Amok on the lawn, riddled with high caliber bullets. Amok was vanilla town.
Bolero lies dead in town square, felled by a close-range shotgun blast. Bolero was vanilla town.
Grimly, you gather together at City Hall to discuss these events and to root out the criminals in your midst.
Nightfall is at 1 AM GMT Friday/8 PM US ET Thursday.
mantisdreamz is subbing in for Daphne Girl
Among the Living:
1. elouise
2. adenosine
3. magicziggy
4. gib
5. nostrum
6. Uselesstwit
7. Gonzo
8. Feck
10. Fuzzy Fungi
11. CGI
12. Athene
13. Daphne Girl/Mantisdreamz
14. borealis
15. ericv00
16. Nightson
20. diva
Deceased:
18. Zigmen - town
9. Jerome - scum
19. Amok - town
17. Bolero - town
You find Amok on the lawn, riddled with high caliber bullets. Amok was vanilla town.
Bolero lies dead in town square, felled by a close-range shotgun blast. Bolero was vanilla town.
Grimly, you gather together at City Hall to discuss these events and to root out the criminals in your midst.
Nightfall is at 1 AM GMT Friday/8 PM US ET Thursday.
mantisdreamz is subbing in for Daphne Girl
Among the Living:
1. elouise
2. adenosine
3. magicziggy
4. gib
5. nostrum
6. Uselesstwit
7. Gonzo
8. Feck
10. Fuzzy Fungi
11. CGI
12. Athene
13. Daphne Girl/Mantisdreamz
14. borealis
15. ericv00
16. Nightson
20. diva
Deceased:
18. Zigmen - town
9. Jerome - scum
19. Amok - town
17. Bolero - town
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 12:23 AM
odd night choices but good lynch yesterday folks. just out of curiosity, how many people on the jerome bw actually thought he was scum?
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 12:23 AM
Those on the late switch to Jerome look clear town to me. In fact anyone on the bw has cred. I stand by my call on Bolero... but her death at least clarifies any lingering doubts.
Nightson
19th January 2012, 12:33 AM
I was bored so I made this during the night.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ikmUuLoDmzfL0E3d6MBwxJ0Pqz-U8fwcAKXBtpQN8po/edit
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ikmUuLoDmzfL0E3d6MBwxJ0Pqz-U8fwcAKXBtpQN8po/edit
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 12:36 AM
really? because diva and gib both switched without talking about it first. It's totally paranoid but it seems like they might have communicated elsewhere.
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 12:44 AM
I was bored so I made this during the night.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ikmUuLoDmzfL0E3d6MBwxJ0Pqz-U8fwcAKXBtpQN8po/edit
Looks like you've finally landed a town role :)
will read later
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ikmUuLoDmzfL0E3d6MBwxJ0Pqz-U8fwcAKXBtpQN8po/edit
Looks like you've finally landed a town role :)
will read later
Fuzzy
19th January 2012, 12:45 AM
Good evening guys
charlou
19th January 2012, 12:53 AM
heya Mantis
Feck
Feck
divagreen
19th January 2012, 12:53 AM
I was bored so I made this during the night.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ikmUuLoDmzfL0E3d6MBwxJ0Pqz-U8fwcAKXBtpQN8po/edit
Except I did not third the vote for Gonzo I thirded the vote for Jerome.
And yes, I honestly thought that he was scum.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ikmUuLoDmzfL0E3d6MBwxJ0Pqz-U8fwcAKXBtpQN8po/edit
Except I did not third the vote for Gonzo I thirded the vote for Jerome.
And yes, I honestly thought that he was scum.
divagreen
19th January 2012, 12:58 AM
really? because diva and gib both switched without talking about it first. It's totally paranoid but it seems like they might have communicated elsewhere.
I did not switch, I had not put a vote down since I had unvoted MZ.
And we did communicate in the thread. I said I had 20 minutes to place my vote. Bolero was looking more townish to me, so I looked at the other and candidates and Jerome was the only one who was my list (and still alive). I had a strong gut level feeling about Jerome the entire day and I went with it.
Gib's reasons for switching are his own.
I did not switch, I had not put a vote down since I had unvoted MZ.
And we did communicate in the thread. I said I had 20 minutes to place my vote. Bolero was looking more townish to me, so I looked at the other and candidates and Jerome was the only one who was my list (and still alive). I had a strong gut level feeling about Jerome the entire day and I went with it.
Gib's reasons for switching are his own.
divagreen
19th January 2012, 01:03 AM
heya Mantis
Feck
What is it about Feck that is standing out to you? I am missing it. I thought his last second hammer looked very townish.
The only concern I have with him is that he is leaving me alone. He always fucks with me cos he thinks that it is funny when I get pissy and get myself lynched (I don't think it is funny btw). I don't know if he has decided to let me be cos I called him a dick last time we played together or if I am reading too much into it.
Feck
What is it about Feck that is standing out to you? I am missing it. I thought his last second hammer looked very townish.
The only concern I have with him is that he is leaving me alone. He always fucks with me cos he thinks that it is funny when I get pissy and get myself lynched (I don't think it is funny btw). I don't know if he has decided to let me be cos I called him a dick last time we played together or if I am reading too much into it.
Mantisdreamz
19th January 2012, 01:11 AM
Those on the late switch to Jerome look clear town to me. In fact anyone on the bw has cred. I stand by my call on Bolero... but her death at least clarifies any lingering doubts.
I'm not sure who exactly was on that bandwagon, but I wouldn't come to that conclusion.
Maybe Bolero was nk'd in order to put heat on whoever was on her bw.
I'm not sure who exactly was on that bandwagon, but I wouldn't come to that conclusion.
Maybe Bolero was nk'd in order to put heat on whoever was on her bw.
Mantisdreamz
19th January 2012, 01:11 AM
heya Mantis
Feck
heya :)
How come you're voting for Feck?
Feck
heya :)
How come you're voting for Feck?
Mantisdreamz
19th January 2012, 01:13 AM
I was bored so I made this during the night.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ikmUuLoDmzfL0E3d6MBwxJ0Pqz-U8fwcAKXBtpQN8po/edit
Looks like you've finally landed a town role :)
will read later
From what I read in yesterday's thread, I specifically thought that as well. That Nightson looks town this time around.
(look MZ - I'm following you again!) :p
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ikmUuLoDmzfL0E3d6MBwxJ0Pqz-U8fwcAKXBtpQN8po/edit
Looks like you've finally landed a town role :)
will read later
From what I read in yesterday's thread, I specifically thought that as well. That Nightson looks town this time around.
(look MZ - I'm following you again!) :p
divagreen
19th January 2012, 01:14 AM
Mantis did you read the d1 thread? Any thoughts? Cos I was pretty suspicious of Daphne and that is now you.
Mantisdreamz
19th January 2012, 01:14 AM
Going to have to do a read/scan of yesterday... but,
eric
eric
Nightson
19th January 2012, 01:17 AM
I was bored so I made this during the night.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ikmUuLoDmzfL0E3d6MBwxJ0Pqz-U8fwcAKXBtpQN8po/edit
Except I did not third the vote for Gonzo I thirded the vote for Jerome.
And yes, I honestly thought that he was scum.
Oops, that was just a plain typo. (And I feel it's against at least the spirit of the rules to edit things you write and link to)
I'm entirely happy with you and gib, both of you have given me general town vibes, you both articulated suspicion of Jerome earlier and then both shifted the lynch onto him.
Other people on the bandwagon I'm less sure about. I feel this is town evidence for Gonzo because he placed the second vote and Jerome attacked him for it.
CGI I'm not ruling out a general bussing/distancing that wasn't intended to result in Jerome actually being lynched. I sort of felt his actually contribution to the discussion or scum hunting was low.
Feck I'm the most unsure about. He's been posting but not actually contributing a lot. He had not expressed that he found gib town (he has not expressed this about anyone I believe) at any point, he had expressed dislike of policy voting Jerome, but then when it became lynch time, he basically did just that.
I haven't really played like any games with them so I don't have a good bead on their baseline, but I see a definite pattern of not putting down opinions and keeping their options open, and sort of using others as proxies for suspicion.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ikmUuLoDmzfL0E3d6MBwxJ0Pqz-U8fwcAKXBtpQN8po/edit
Except I did not third the vote for Gonzo I thirded the vote for Jerome.
And yes, I honestly thought that he was scum.
Oops, that was just a plain typo. (And I feel it's against at least the spirit of the rules to edit things you write and link to)
I'm entirely happy with you and gib, both of you have given me general town vibes, you both articulated suspicion of Jerome earlier and then both shifted the lynch onto him.
Other people on the bandwagon I'm less sure about. I feel this is town evidence for Gonzo because he placed the second vote and Jerome attacked him for it.
CGI I'm not ruling out a general bussing/distancing that wasn't intended to result in Jerome actually being lynched. I sort of felt his actually contribution to the discussion or scum hunting was low.
Feck I'm the most unsure about. He's been posting but not actually contributing a lot. He had not expressed that he found gib town (he has not expressed this about anyone I believe) at any point, he had expressed dislike of policy voting Jerome, but then when it became lynch time, he basically did just that.
I haven't really played like any games with them so I don't have a good bead on their baseline, but I see a definite pattern of not putting down opinions and keeping their options open, and sort of using others as proxies for suspicion.
Mantisdreamz
19th January 2012, 01:18 AM
Mantis did you read the d1 thread? Any thoughts? Cos I was pretty suspicious of Daphne and that is now you.
I read it a bit. I agree with others that Gonzo looks strange and because I've seen him pull shenanigans while scum, it stands out even more. It just seemed kind of nervous on his part... it seems kind of shady..
I'll get back to you though, after another look
I read it a bit. I agree with others that Gonzo looks strange and because I've seen him pull shenanigans while scum, it stands out even more. It just seemed kind of nervous on his part... it seems kind of shady..
I'll get back to you though, after another look
Mantisdreamz
19th January 2012, 01:22 AM
One thing i recall - CGI looks townish for blatantly stating to nostrum to kill Zigmen. Don't think scum would coerce her to do that, knowing it's a townie.
nostrum
19th January 2012, 01:23 AM
Those on the late switch to Jerome look clear town to me. In fact anyone on the bw has cred. I stand by my call on Bolero... but her death at least clarifies any lingering doubts.
I'm not sure who exactly was on that bandwagon, but I wouldn't come to that conclusion.
Maybe Bolero was nk'd in order to put heat on whoever was on her bw.
Er yep. This. In spades.
Is there a list of who was on the BW and what order? Sorry I haven't taken notes I had RL crap and was distracted.
I'd say one of gonzo or CGI is looking scummy.
I don't see the case of feck. I think he's town.
I'm not sure who exactly was on that bandwagon, but I wouldn't come to that conclusion.
Maybe Bolero was nk'd in order to put heat on whoever was on her bw.
Er yep. This. In spades.
Is there a list of who was on the BW and what order? Sorry I haven't taken notes I had RL crap and was distracted.
I'd say one of gonzo or CGI is looking scummy.
I don't see the case of feck. I think he's town.
nostrum
19th January 2012, 01:23 AM
xposts yep agree on gonzo
mantis you have point re CGI
mantis you have point re CGI
Fuzzy
19th January 2012, 01:25 AM
feck
Nightson
19th January 2012, 01:29 AM
Those on the late switch to Jerome look clear town to me. In fact anyone on the bw has cred. I stand by my call on Bolero... but her death at least clarifies any lingering doubts.
I'm not sure who exactly was on that bandwagon, but I wouldn't come to that conclusion.
Maybe Bolero was nk'd in order to put heat on whoever was on her bw.
Er yep. This. In spades.
Is there a list of who was on the BW and what order? Sorry I haven't taken notes I had RL crap and was distracted.
I'd say one of gonzo or CGI is looking scummy.
I don't see the case of feck. I think he's town.
CGI placed the first vote early in the day - http://mindromp.org/forum/showpost.php?p=2998&postcount=80
Gonzo placed the second vote - http://mindromp.org/forum/showpost.php?p=3114&postcount=155
The bandwagon stood at that for the vast majority of the day.
As nightfall was getting near, Diva placed a third vote on Jerome, then gib followed with a fourth vote. Gib said someone should hammer, Feck asked if he was sure, gib said no but it wasn't a big loss if he was wrong, Feck voted for him as the fifth vote.
I'm not sure who exactly was on that bandwagon, but I wouldn't come to that conclusion.
Maybe Bolero was nk'd in order to put heat on whoever was on her bw.
Er yep. This. In spades.
Is there a list of who was on the BW and what order? Sorry I haven't taken notes I had RL crap and was distracted.
I'd say one of gonzo or CGI is looking scummy.
I don't see the case of feck. I think he's town.
CGI placed the first vote early in the day - http://mindromp.org/forum/showpost.php?p=2998&postcount=80
Gonzo placed the second vote - http://mindromp.org/forum/showpost.php?p=3114&postcount=155
The bandwagon stood at that for the vast majority of the day.
As nightfall was getting near, Diva placed a third vote on Jerome, then gib followed with a fourth vote. Gib said someone should hammer, Feck asked if he was sure, gib said no but it wasn't a big loss if he was wrong, Feck voted for him as the fifth vote.
divagreen
19th January 2012, 01:30 AM
Nightson, do you have who was on Bolero's bw?
charlou
19th January 2012, 01:32 AM
ob posted that two people needed subbing. Mantis has replaced Daphne .. I wonder if the other was Jerome ... I think if he wanted subbing out, his team mates would go ahead and bus him.
Fuzzy
19th January 2012, 01:34 AM
Nah I've gotta follow my heart vote gib that looked like some nice townie acting at the end
Nightson
19th January 2012, 01:37 AM
Nightson, do you have who was on Bolero's bw?
It ended with
Bolero (4) - magicziggy, borealis, Amok, adenosine
It ended with
Bolero (4) - magicziggy, borealis, Amok, adenosine
Feck
19th January 2012, 01:45 AM
Oh Diva I hadn't forgotten you :wave: I just thought it's a new forum why drag up the past, also I thought you might have learned how to play by now.
If you are going to get all hysterical again can I recommend hormone implants .
If you are going to get all hysterical again can I recommend hormone implants .
Mantisdreamz
19th January 2012, 01:47 AM
Those on the late switch to Jerome look clear town to me. In fact anyone on the bw has cred. I stand by my call on Bolero... but her death at least clarifies any lingering doubts.
I'm not sure who exactly was on that bandwagon, but I wouldn't come to that conclusion.
Maybe Bolero was nk'd in order to put heat on whoever was on her bw.
Er yep. This. In spades.
Is there a list of who was on the BW and what order? Sorry I haven't taken notes I had RL crap and was distracted.
I'd say one of gonzo or CGI is looking scummy.
I don't see the case of feck. I think he's town.
I scanned the thread as fast I could.. and noticed Feck's post at the end where he says to gib re: voting Jerome -- "Really R U sure?"
That looks townish. If he was scum, i think he would have planted a vote on Jerome without the hesitation.
Fuzzy seems kind of suspicious. And I'm not so sure of gib
I'm not sure who exactly was on that bandwagon, but I wouldn't come to that conclusion.
Maybe Bolero was nk'd in order to put heat on whoever was on her bw.
Er yep. This. In spades.
Is there a list of who was on the BW and what order? Sorry I haven't taken notes I had RL crap and was distracted.
I'd say one of gonzo or CGI is looking scummy.
I don't see the case of feck. I think he's town.
I scanned the thread as fast I could.. and noticed Feck's post at the end where he says to gib re: voting Jerome -- "Really R U sure?"
That looks townish. If he was scum, i think he would have planted a vote on Jerome without the hesitation.
Fuzzy seems kind of suspicious. And I'm not so sure of gib
Mantisdreamz
19th January 2012, 01:53 AM
Another thing that stands out with gib is his whiteknighting of Bolero
Mantisdreamz
19th January 2012, 01:56 AM
Nah I've gotta follow my heart vote gib that looked like some nice townie acting at the end
If gib is scum, I can't see you busing him. And if you were scum, for some reason I also can't see you voting him if you knew he was town..
Eric has been playing under the radar as well.
If gib is scum, I can't see you busing him. And if you were scum, for some reason I also can't see you voting him if you knew he was town..
Eric has been playing under the radar as well.
Nightson
19th January 2012, 02:19 AM
Cleared:
Nostrum
Very town:
gib
diva
Leaning town:
MZ
Gonzo
Fuzzy
CGI
Unsure or no read
ericv00
Athene
elouise
Feck
Scummy:
UT
adenosine
daphne (near the border of unsure before, liking Mantis' posts so far)
borealis
Nostrum
Very town:
gib
diva
Leaning town:
MZ
Gonzo
Fuzzy
CGI
Unsure or no read
ericv00
Athene
elouise
Feck
Scummy:
UT
adenosine
daphne (near the border of unsure before, liking Mantis' posts so far)
borealis
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 02:20 AM
ob posted that two people needed subbing. Mantis has replaced Daphne .. I wonder if the other was Jerome ... I think if he wanted subbing out, his team mates would go ahead and bus him.
This went thru my head as well, bus him and get the cred instead of a new teammate that might throw the team off. Just no way to prove it.
This went thru my head as well, bus him and get the cred instead of a new teammate that might throw the team off. Just no way to prove it.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 02:41 AM
i really don't agree with that list night. I'll agree about nos and diva but gib i have concerns about and your entire leaning town pile has me suspicious.
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 02:55 AM
i really don't agree with that list night. I'll agree about nos and diva but gib i have concerns about and your entire leaning town pile has me suspicious.
I find your disagreement townish.. But I like the leaning town list.. I also share concerns about gib.. And I would add Elouise and mantis to leaning town.
I find your disagreement townish.. But I like the leaning town list.. I also share concerns about gib.. And I would add Elouise and mantis to leaning town.
borealis
19th January 2012, 03:00 AM
For one thing, I doubt Gonzo is town, and he is probably an indie of some kind.
nostrum
19th January 2012, 03:00 AM
i really don't agree with that list night. I'll agree about nos and diva but gib i have concerns about and your entire leaning town pile has me suspicious.
Agreed.
Agreed.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 03:00 AM
i really don't agree with that list night. I'll agree about nos and diva but gib i have concerns about and your entire leaning town pile has me suspicious.
I find your disagreement townish.. But I like the leaning town list.. I also share concerns about gib.. And I would add Elouise and mantis to leaning town.
agree about eloise and mantis, but the leaning town list has gonzo in it who i think we need to talk aobut. fuzzy who i can never read, you who i thought looked really sticky yesterday, and cgi who i also have trouble reading.
I find your disagreement townish.. But I like the leaning town list.. I also share concerns about gib.. And I would add Elouise and mantis to leaning town.
agree about eloise and mantis, but the leaning town list has gonzo in it who i think we need to talk aobut. fuzzy who i can never read, you who i thought looked really sticky yesterday, and cgi who i also have trouble reading.
Adenosine
19th January 2012, 03:33 AM
Those on the late switch to Jerome look clear town to me. In fact anyone on the bw has cred. I stand by my call on Bolero... but her death at least clarifies any lingering doubts.
I'm not sure who exactly was on that bandwagon, but I wouldn't come to that conclusion.
Maybe Bolero was nk'd in order to put heat on whoever was on her bw.
So you think Bolero was the scum kill? I think it's the other way around. The vig took Bolero out and scum got Amok.
I was bored so I made this during the night.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ikmUuLoDmzfL0E3d6MBwxJ0Pqz-U8fwcAKXBtpQN8po/edit
Except I did not third the vote for Gonzo I thirded the vote for Jerome.
And yes, I honestly thought that he was scum.
Oops, that was just a plain typo. (And I feel it's against at least the spirit of the rules to edit things you write and link to)
I'm entirely happy with you and gib, both of you have given me general town vibes, you both articulated suspicion of Jerome earlier and then both shifted the lynch onto him.
Other people on the bandwagon I'm less sure about. I feel this is town evidence for Gonzo because he placed the second vote and Jerome attacked him for it.
CGI I'm not ruling out a general bussing/distancing that wasn't intended to result in Jerome actually being lynched. I sort of felt his actually contribution to the discussion or scum hunting was low.
Feck I'm the most unsure about. He's been posting but not actually contributing a lot. He had not expressed that he found gib town (he has not expressed this about anyone I believe) at any point, he had expressed dislike of policy voting Jerome, but then when it became lynch time, he basically did just that.
I haven't really played like any games with them so I don't have a good bead on their baseline, but I see a definite pattern of not putting down opinions and keeping their options open, and sort of using others as proxies for suspicion.
Back in the GitS game Jerome, Gonzo, ob and myself were scum. Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome with early votes, very early votes. Jerome attacked them both in thread for it. The only difference is that in that game Jerome was the scum roleblocker.
So Gonzo will bus a scum teammate early and he will do it to Jerome. Gonzo isn't cleared at all.
Regarding yor suspicion of me, I'm curious. What have I done that is scummy? You yourself has said that I'm not doing my usual scum dance.
I'm not sure who exactly was on that bandwagon, but I wouldn't come to that conclusion.
Maybe Bolero was nk'd in order to put heat on whoever was on her bw.
So you think Bolero was the scum kill? I think it's the other way around. The vig took Bolero out and scum got Amok.
I was bored so I made this during the night.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ikmUuLoDmzfL0E3d6MBwxJ0Pqz-U8fwcAKXBtpQN8po/edit
Except I did not third the vote for Gonzo I thirded the vote for Jerome.
And yes, I honestly thought that he was scum.
Oops, that was just a plain typo. (And I feel it's against at least the spirit of the rules to edit things you write and link to)
I'm entirely happy with you and gib, both of you have given me general town vibes, you both articulated suspicion of Jerome earlier and then both shifted the lynch onto him.
Other people on the bandwagon I'm less sure about. I feel this is town evidence for Gonzo because he placed the second vote and Jerome attacked him for it.
CGI I'm not ruling out a general bussing/distancing that wasn't intended to result in Jerome actually being lynched. I sort of felt his actually contribution to the discussion or scum hunting was low.
Feck I'm the most unsure about. He's been posting but not actually contributing a lot. He had not expressed that he found gib town (he has not expressed this about anyone I believe) at any point, he had expressed dislike of policy voting Jerome, but then when it became lynch time, he basically did just that.
I haven't really played like any games with them so I don't have a good bead on their baseline, but I see a definite pattern of not putting down opinions and keeping their options open, and sort of using others as proxies for suspicion.
Back in the GitS game Jerome, Gonzo, ob and myself were scum. Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome with early votes, very early votes. Jerome attacked them both in thread for it. The only difference is that in that game Jerome was the scum roleblocker.
So Gonzo will bus a scum teammate early and he will do it to Jerome. Gonzo isn't cleared at all.
Regarding yor suspicion of me, I'm curious. What have I done that is scummy? You yourself has said that I'm not doing my usual scum dance.
Nightson
19th January 2012, 03:58 AM
Regarding yor suspicion of me, I'm curious. What have I done that is scummy? You yourself has said that I'm not doing my usual scum dance.
No I said you weren't flailing all over the place. Whether town or scum your game has improved like it's been doing.
Right now your posts are of the pattern where I look at some of them and think scummy and look at others and think town, and the scummy outweighs the town. A lot of your posts, don't seem quite genuine.
I'd forgotten about Jerome attacking his teammates in GitS mafia and Gonzo bussing him, that probably bumps Gonzo firmly into unsure. He also definitely needs to come clean today with everything.
No I said you weren't flailing all over the place. Whether town or scum your game has improved like it's been doing.
Right now your posts are of the pattern where I look at some of them and think scummy and look at others and think town, and the scummy outweighs the town. A lot of your posts, don't seem quite genuine.
I'd forgotten about Jerome attacking his teammates in GitS mafia and Gonzo bussing him, that probably bumps Gonzo firmly into unsure. He also definitely needs to come clean today with everything.
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 04:26 AM
Re:New info on gonzo... Why would he pull the same stunt twice?
I know he's capable of anything..
gonzo
Gonzo, I think you need to come clean... Too much wifom
I found Aden's post leaning town.
I know he's capable of anything..
gonzo
Gonzo, I think you need to come clean... Too much wifom
I found Aden's post leaning town.
Mantisdreamz
19th January 2012, 05:11 AM
Those on the late switch to Jerome look clear town to me. In fact anyone on the bw has cred. I stand by my call on Bolero... but her death at least clarifies any lingering doubts.
I'm not sure who exactly was on that bandwagon, but I wouldn't come to that conclusion.
Maybe Bolero was nk'd in order to put heat on whoever was on her bw.
So you think Bolero was the scum kill? I think it's the other way around. The vig took Bolero out and scum got Amok.
That's a good point...yea, you're probably right on that.
Nostrum, UT, diva, Feck and CGI seem town to me. Only thing with CGI is that he is participating a lot more, which makes me wonder. But what he's said looks townish.
I'm not sure who exactly was on that bandwagon, but I wouldn't come to that conclusion.
Maybe Bolero was nk'd in order to put heat on whoever was on her bw.
So you think Bolero was the scum kill? I think it's the other way around. The vig took Bolero out and scum got Amok.
That's a good point...yea, you're probably right on that.
Nostrum, UT, diva, Feck and CGI seem town to me. Only thing with CGI is that he is participating a lot more, which makes me wonder. But what he's said looks townish.
Fuzzy
19th January 2012, 05:16 AM
Those on the late switch to Jerome look clear town to me. In fact anyone on the bw has cred. I stand by my call on Bolero... but her death at least clarifies any lingering doubts.
I'm not sure who exactly was on that bandwagon, but I wouldn't come to that conclusion.
Maybe Bolero was nk'd in order to put heat on whoever was on her bw.
So you think Bolero was the scum kill? I think it's the other way around. The vig took Bolero out and scum got Amok.
That's a good point...yea, you're probably right on that.
Agreed. The mafia has more cash so they'd get better guns than a redneck who takes matters into their own hands with a misc shotgun from the toolshed or wherever people store guns
I'm not sure who exactly was on that bandwagon, but I wouldn't come to that conclusion.
Maybe Bolero was nk'd in order to put heat on whoever was on her bw.
So you think Bolero was the scum kill? I think it's the other way around. The vig took Bolero out and scum got Amok.
That's a good point...yea, you're probably right on that.
Agreed. The mafia has more cash so they'd get better guns than a redneck who takes matters into their own hands with a misc shotgun from the toolshed or wherever people store guns
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 05:28 AM
i was kind of thinking scum nk and sk for the two night kills, not sure town would have a one shot day vig and a normal night one.
Fuzzy
19th January 2012, 05:33 AM
An sk would like use knives or fists or a noose Phantom of the Opera style IMHO.
Mantisdreamz
19th January 2012, 05:40 AM
Agreed. The mafia has more cash so they'd get better guns than a redneck who takes matters into their own hands with a misc shotgun from the toolshed or wherever people store guns
Now that you're here Fuzzy.. any suspects other than gib and feck?
Now that you're here Fuzzy.. any suspects other than gib and feck?
nostrum
19th January 2012, 06:13 AM
eric
Mantisdreamz
19th January 2012, 06:29 AM
i really don't agree with that list night. I'll agree about nos and diva but gib i have concerns about and your entire leaning town pile has me suspicious.
I find your disagreement townish.. But I like the leaning town list.. I also share concerns about gib.. And I would add Elouise and mantis to leaning town.
Interesting that you guys also have concerns about gib. Nostrum as well... i don't know about a case on him, but for now I think it's worth keeping in mind that several players have put him in unsure piles when he's normally easy to read as town..
I find your disagreement townish.. But I like the leaning town list.. I also share concerns about gib.. And I would add Elouise and mantis to leaning town.
Interesting that you guys also have concerns about gib. Nostrum as well... i don't know about a case on him, but for now I think it's worth keeping in mind that several players have put him in unsure piles when he's normally easy to read as town..
ericv00
19th January 2012, 06:31 AM
Sigh... Okay, I'm here. I have to go to sleep, like, 4 hours ago. I will be off from work early tomorrow (i think....) so hopefully I'll be back here and able to contribute more thoughts and analysis before day's end.
ericv00
19th January 2012, 06:32 AM
On a quick read, I don't understand the concerns with gib. He was the only one I had a town read on from yesterday.
ericv00
19th January 2012, 06:35 AM
I also don't know what happened with zigmen. I'll have to review day one, I missed parts of it.
gib
19th January 2012, 07:12 AM
miserable bunch of shits fossing me - as for you Fuzzy this is an outrage
agree CGI looks town for setting up jerome, diva for making it happen. Nostrum why are you so sure feck is town?
agree CGI looks town for setting up jerome, diva for making it happen. Nostrum why are you so sure feck is town?
divagreen
19th January 2012, 08:04 AM
I think you are town, Gib. :)
gib
19th January 2012, 08:28 AM
you yeh too, a few of us didn't fancy the bolero lynch and you put jerome back in the frame. That's not a bus cos why would you do that when bolero was going down.
when i asked for the hammer though, a scum feck could well have been thinking fuckit someone will hammer him may as well get some cred. Overall i think it's more likely feck is town there but i'm curious why nostrum has him so clear.
what do you make of fuzzy's vote on me for looking like i was acting townie (note to fuzzy, you know what else looks like acting townie bud? being a fuckin townie!)
when i asked for the hammer though, a scum feck could well have been thinking fuckit someone will hammer him may as well get some cred. Overall i think it's more likely feck is town there but i'm curious why nostrum has him so clear.
what do you make of fuzzy's vote on me for looking like i was acting townie (note to fuzzy, you know what else looks like acting townie bud? being a fuckin townie!)
divagreen
19th January 2012, 08:39 AM
I am not sure what to make of it, tbh.
gib
19th January 2012, 08:44 AM
odd night choices but good lynch yesterday folks. just out of curiosity, how many people on the jerome bw actually thought he was scum?
not really, despite Nightson stating that i fossed jerome earlier in the day (which i don't remember doing btw)
night choices are not that odd. i think the vig cleared out bolero to make some sense of the lynch (if bolero had been scum too things would look very different today) and amok was looking off so could have been taken for a special. what makes you say odd?
not really, despite Nightson stating that i fossed jerome earlier in the day (which i don't remember doing btw)
night choices are not that odd. i think the vig cleared out bolero to make some sense of the lynch (if bolero had been scum too things would look very different today) and amok was looking off so could have been taken for a special. what makes you say odd?
nostrum
19th January 2012, 09:14 AM
you yeh too, a few of us didn't fancy the bolero lynch and you put jerome back in the frame. That's not a bus cos why would you do that when bolero was going down.
when i asked for the hammer though, a scum feck could well have been thinking fuckit someone will hammer him may as well get some cred. Overall i think it's more likely feck is town there but i'm curious why nostrum has him so clear.
what do you make of fuzzy's vote on me for looking like i was acting townie (note to fuzzy, you know what else looks like acting townie bud? being a fuckin townie!)
Scum feck would not have handled that late vote session like he did IMO.
when i asked for the hammer though, a scum feck could well have been thinking fuckit someone will hammer him may as well get some cred. Overall i think it's more likely feck is town there but i'm curious why nostrum has him so clear.
what do you make of fuzzy's vote on me for looking like i was acting townie (note to fuzzy, you know what else looks like acting townie bud? being a fuckin townie!)
Scum feck would not have handled that late vote session like he did IMO.
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 09:17 AM
yeah good thing bolero was town, now the late switchers to jerome are semi-cleared.
on all the other sites i play, the vig usually says pass until there's a strong suspicion on someone, since there's a higher chance of hitting town when there's low info... but for some reason that never caught on at TR. i assume ratz was similar?
on all the other sites i play, the vig usually says pass until there's a strong suspicion on someone, since there's a higher chance of hitting town when there's low info... but for some reason that never caught on at TR. i assume ratz was similar?
Adenosine
19th January 2012, 09:27 AM
yeah good thing bolero was town, now the late switchers to jerome are semi-cleared.
on all the other sites i play, the vig usually says pass until there's a strong suspicion on someone, since there's a higher chance of hitting town when there's low info... but for some reason that never caught on at TR. i assume ratz was similar?
Fishing for the vig?
CGI
on all the other sites i play, the vig usually says pass until there's a strong suspicion on someone, since there's a higher chance of hitting town when there's low info... but for some reason that never caught on at TR. i assume ratz was similar?
Fishing for the vig?
CGI
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 09:30 AM
yes
gib
19th January 2012, 09:36 AM
Adenosine
gib
19th January 2012, 09:36 AM
don't like the way he leapt on CGI there
nostrum
19th January 2012, 10:38 AM
Yes that was weird. Plus it was obvious what CGI was talking about.
eric
adenosine
eric
adenosine
nostrum
19th January 2012, 10:38 AM
Looked like an attempt to put down a defensible vote huh
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 11:18 AM
Yep, does look like a slip Aden
still... Waiting for Gonzo !
Gib is firming town.
still... Waiting for Gonzo !
Gib is firming town.
ericv00
19th January 2012, 11:37 AM
Good news, folks. The roads are so dangerous where I live that I'm not going to work. I'll be about most of the day, methinks.
ericv00
19th January 2012, 11:53 AM
Maybe Bolero was nk'd in order to put heat on whoever was on her bw.
This sounds odd to me. Odd as in wrong reasoning. Not even considering that I think most of us think this was a vig kill, not the NK, which was probably Amok.
That seems to be the consensus now, but I'm still thrown off by this reasoning. This would never cross my mind as scum or town, that NKing a suspicious character with a BW would put heat on the people on that BW. That requires that town assumes that scum thought this person was a threat even though a lot of people find that person suspicious. If scum thought bolero was a special, I would assume they wouldn't touch the character in thread, and instead go straight for the NK.
So where did THIS reasoning come from?
This sounds odd to me. Odd as in wrong reasoning. Not even considering that I think most of us think this was a vig kill, not the NK, which was probably Amok.
That seems to be the consensus now, but I'm still thrown off by this reasoning. This would never cross my mind as scum or town, that NKing a suspicious character with a BW would put heat on the people on that BW. That requires that town assumes that scum thought this person was a threat even though a lot of people find that person suspicious. If scum thought bolero was a special, I would assume they wouldn't touch the character in thread, and instead go straight for the NK.
So where did THIS reasoning come from?
Facetious
19th January 2012, 12:02 PM
at this point in the game I'd go for a borealis or adenosine lynch, and as adenosine already has votes I'll adenosine
as of now, I've put useless twit in my townish pile, as MZ said - his disagreement with nightsons list does look town.
as of now, I've put useless twit in my townish pile, as MZ said - his disagreement with nightsons list does look town.
ericv00
19th January 2012, 12:18 PM
Did anyone find nightson's link useful?
It just looks like an oversimplified rewriting of day one. There are no helpful observations as far as I am concerned.
It just looks like an oversimplified rewriting of day one. There are no helpful observations as far as I am concerned.
Adenosine
19th January 2012, 12:20 PM
Apart from the irony in all of you voting for me, can anyone see a problem with my bandwagon?
Adenosine
19th January 2012, 12:21 PM
And by all I mean three.
Which of diva and gib is the scummy one? Who is leading and who is following?
Which of diva and gib is the scummy one? Who is leading and who is following?
Adenosine
19th January 2012, 12:22 PM
Goddammit. Okay, ignore me now. Somehow I got nostrum and diva mixed up. Sorry diva.
Adenosine
19th January 2012, 12:24 PM
yeah good thing bolero was town, now the late switchers to jerome are semi-cleared.
on all the other sites i play, the vig usually says pass until there's a strong suspicion on someone, since there's a higher chance of hitting town when there's low info... but for some reason that never caught on at TR. i assume ratz was similar?
That's not fishing? Sure it is. He's narrowing down which forum the Vig came from.
Hey guys. What are the odds of us having a vig, an honest to goodness vig, and a pro-town player with a one shot kill?
on all the other sites i play, the vig usually says pass until there's a strong suspicion on someone, since there's a higher chance of hitting town when there's low info... but for some reason that never caught on at TR. i assume ratz was similar?
That's not fishing? Sure it is. He's narrowing down which forum the Vig came from.
Hey guys. What are the odds of us having a vig, an honest to goodness vig, and a pro-town player with a one shot kill?
Adenosine
19th January 2012, 12:25 PM
First 5 post combo!
ericv00
19th January 2012, 12:30 PM
yeah good thing bolero was town, now the late switchers to jerome are semi-cleared.
on all the other sites i play, the vig usually says pass until there's a strong suspicion on someone, since there's a higher chance of hitting town when there's low info... but for some reason that never caught on at TR. i assume ratz was similar?
That's not fishing? Sure it is. He's narrowing down which forum the Vig came from.
Hey guys. What are the odds of us having a vig, an honest to goodness vig, and a pro-town player with a one shot kill?
I agree with you here. Not quite enough to throw down a lynch vote, but CGI is not looking good to me right now.
on all the other sites i play, the vig usually says pass until there's a strong suspicion on someone, since there's a higher chance of hitting town when there's low info... but for some reason that never caught on at TR. i assume ratz was similar?
That's not fishing? Sure it is. He's narrowing down which forum the Vig came from.
Hey guys. What are the odds of us having a vig, an honest to goodness vig, and a pro-town player with a one shot kill?
I agree with you here. Not quite enough to throw down a lynch vote, but CGI is not looking good to me right now.
Gonzo
19th January 2012, 01:16 PM
I viewed Nightson and viewed as scum. I am one of two seers, diva is the other on alternating nights.
Adenosine
19th January 2012, 01:19 PM
Jesus. You've killed both of you.
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 01:27 PM
i will vote for him but we need diva to confirm the story.
##vote nightson##
nightson has been scum so many times that it's hard to believe... gambler's fallacy but there you go.
##vote nightson##
nightson has been scum so many times that it's hard to believe... gambler's fallacy but there you go.
Facetious
19th January 2012, 01:32 PM
adenosine
Facetious
19th January 2012, 01:32 PM
and nightson
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 01:33 PM
gonzo
nightson
Night all ... Back before nightfall
nightson
Night all ... Back before nightfall
Facetious
19th January 2012, 01:35 PM
yeah good thing bolero was town, now the late switchers to jerome are semi-cleared.
on all the other sites i play, the vig usually says pass until there's a strong suspicion on someone, since there's a higher chance of hitting town when there's low info... but for some reason that never caught on at TR. i assume ratz was similar?
That's not fishing? Sure it is. He's narrowing down which forum the Vig came from.
Hey guys. What are the odds of us having a vig, an honest to goodness vig, and a pro-town player with a one shot kill?
I agree with you here. Not quite enough to throw down a lynch vote, but CGI is not looking good to me right now.
can you go in to more detail about that? I have my own niggles about him so I'm glad you said this actually.
on all the other sites i play, the vig usually says pass until there's a strong suspicion on someone, since there's a higher chance of hitting town when there's low info... but for some reason that never caught on at TR. i assume ratz was similar?
That's not fishing? Sure it is. He's narrowing down which forum the Vig came from.
Hey guys. What are the odds of us having a vig, an honest to goodness vig, and a pro-town player with a one shot kill?
I agree with you here. Not quite enough to throw down a lynch vote, but CGI is not looking good to me right now.
can you go in to more detail about that? I have my own niggles about him so I'm glad you said this actually.
Facetious
19th January 2012, 01:36 PM
I viewed Nightson and viewed as scum. I am one of two seers, diva is the other on alternating nights.
Why did you out diva to?
Why did you out diva to?
divagreen
19th January 2012, 01:38 PM
I viewed Nightson and viewed as scum. I am one of two seers, diva is the other on alternating nights.
Uh...no I am not. And my role PM did not mention any other player's name.
Gonzo
Uh...no I am not. And my role PM did not mention any other player's name.
Gonzo
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 01:41 PM
eric always thinks i'm scum hth
i am not fishing for anything, i am just confirming my assumption that ratz people learned mafia from TR which would be the same culture...
i was just hoping we could start doing things based on logic and not habit here on mindromp.
i am not fishing for anything, i am just confirming my assumption that ratz people learned mafia from TR which would be the same culture...
i was just hoping we could start doing things based on logic and not habit here on mindromp.
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 01:42 PM
i am just confirming my assumption that ratz people learned mafia from TR which would be the same culture
actually i am pretty sure they did since i GM'ed the very first game on ratz. but i haven't been around much after that so i have no idea if you had other outside influences, did raven get FF people to come play on ratz after dlx and bart trolled the shit out of the ratz admins?
actually i am pretty sure they did since i GM'ed the very first game on ratz. but i haven't been around much after that so i have no idea if you had other outside influences, did raven get FF people to come play on ratz after dlx and bart trolled the shit out of the ratz admins?
divagreen
19th January 2012, 01:42 PM
Gonzo I am really struggling here, I can't believe as scum you would be this dumb. The only reason I can think of is that you are trying to flush the real seer out. Well guess what, I am not it.
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 01:43 PM
I viewed Nightson and viewed as scum. I am one of two seers, diva is the other on alternating nights.
Uh...no I am not. And my role PM did not mention any other player's name.
Gonzo
##unvote##
wtf is going on? is gonzo always such a retard? reminds me of beyelzu
Uh...no I am not. And my role PM did not mention any other player's name.
Gonzo
##unvote##
wtf is going on? is gonzo always such a retard? reminds me of beyelzu
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 01:45 PM
assuming gonzo is telling the truth about nightson... why would he lie about diva? surely he has heard about lynch all liars and all that...
this does not make sense
gonzo if you wanted scum to go for diva so you could have another view, or any other vrilliant plan you think you might have had, you need to come clean now.
this does not make sense
gonzo if you wanted scum to go for diva so you could have another view, or any other vrilliant plan you think you might have had, you need to come clean now.
Facetious
19th January 2012, 01:47 PM
oh my nightson
Facetious
19th January 2012, 01:53 PM
Gonzo I am really struggling here, I can't believe as scum you would be this dumb. The only reason I can think of is that you are trying to flush the real seer out. Well guess what, I am not it.
i'm thinking jester
i'm thinking jester
divagreen
19th January 2012, 01:53 PM
Gonzo
jester?
I really don't understand what is going on at all.
jester?
I really don't understand what is going on at all.
divagreen
19th January 2012, 01:53 PM
snap
ericv00
19th January 2012, 01:55 PM
Gonzo. What the hell is going on? I can not see any pro-town reason for posting as you have over the past two days.
ericv00
19th January 2012, 01:56 PM
If we have a vig, do we think this would be a good time to use it?
ericv00
19th January 2012, 02:01 PM
eric always thinks i'm scum hth
This is true, BTW. So don't let my opinion add to anyone's uneasiness about CGI. Just putting it out there that I am in that camp.
This is true, BTW. So don't let my opinion add to anyone's uneasiness about CGI. Just putting it out there that I am in that camp.
Fuzzy
19th January 2012, 02:26 PM
I viewed Nightson and viewed as scum. I am one of two seers, diva is the other on alternating nights.
Uh...no I am not. And my role PM did not mention any other player's name.
Gonzo
:stare:
vote gonzo
Sounds like gonzo wants diva to get killed, too. He might be a variation on the "lyncher" role.
Uh...no I am not. And my role PM did not mention any other player's name.
Gonzo
:stare:
vote gonzo
Sounds like gonzo wants diva to get killed, too. He might be a variation on the "lyncher" role.
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 02:42 PM
yeah that makes sense... stupid approach though, he should have claimed tracker.
what's worrying me is that he dropped the bomb and ran away, he won't explain himself
we could leave him for the vig just in case he's jester, but in that case... who do we lynch?
what's worrying me is that he dropped the bomb and ran away, he won't explain himself
we could leave him for the vig just in case he's jester, but in that case... who do we lynch?
Feck
19th January 2012, 02:45 PM
##vote nightson## but Diva says she isn't a Seer WTF ..I will check back later to see if Gonzo has anything more to say .
gib
19th January 2012, 02:58 PM
feck that's weird of you, either gonzo or diva is lying and seeing as diva has no reason to lie then gonzo is the liar
gotta be jester
gotta be jester
gib
19th January 2012, 03:00 PM
yeah that makes sense... stupid approach though, he should have claimed tracker.
what's worrying me is that he dropped the bomb and ran away, he won't explain himself
we could leave him for the vig just in case he's jester, but in that case... who do we lynch?
i'm thinking leave for the vig, much better the vig spends their shot there than killing randomly
what's worrying me is that he dropped the bomb and ran away, he won't explain himself
we could leave him for the vig just in case he's jester, but in that case... who do we lynch?
i'm thinking leave for the vig, much better the vig spends their shot there than killing randomly
gib
19th January 2012, 03:01 PM
and we lynch Adenosine
divagreen
19th January 2012, 03:04 PM
Okay, so while we wait to hear back from Gonzo and get other people's input I am just going to put my thoughts out there.
Town:
Nostrum - cleared town.
gib - I really think he is town. You guys just saw him play a scum game at FF and did you see him get this cranky? I dont think so. In the Kotor game where I actually did have a serious meltdown, Gib got all cranky with me, called me dumb in that game too and I killed him that night cos I thought he was scum. (I was a town compatible SK.) It was my big loss cos I think gib would have helped me in that game and I made it a point to go back and look at a couple of games where he was scum and there is a difference that I am not seeing here.
Athene - she is posting some of the same thoughts that I am having at exactly the same time. I think she is town.
Nightson - I really get a strong town vibe from him. And I disagree with Eric, I did find his list useful.
Feck - His last minute vote switch to Jerome looked townish to me. So does his calling card sarcastic post to me. It didn't come across as him trying to intentionally push me over the edge, it looked more jokey.
Unsure:
Elouise - I have a big question mark here and I am not seeing why other people think she is town! One thing that I have noticed about Elouise is that she asks questions questions questions and I am not seeing it in this game. And she has avoided answering DaphneDreamz and mine's question about Feck. She isn't scum hunting today, she has parked a vote on Feck and has done a fade.
Uselesstwit - I have left him alone cos Nostrum has a strong town read on him. He has said some things that seem townish and he has said some things where I can't follow his reasoning at all.
Fuzzy - Has moved down my list with his chatty opening post today and his vote on Gib. I am not getting the warm fuzzies with him. unsure/possible scum. I am wondering if I misread him on d1.
MagicZiggy - I go back and forth on him and I don't know what to make of it. His game here is very different from his FF game, very different and he just seems suspicious to me. The one thing that he posted that did make me like him a bit more was his post about Nightson landing a town role cos that was my reaction to it as well. unsure/maybe town?
Borealis - I can't read her at all. I am going to have to rely on other people to read her. If I were the seer, I think she would be a good view.
Adenosine - Seems very distracted. I have been wrong about him a couple of times so I am not trusting my read on him like I used to. He seems disengaged and like he really isn't getting his hands dirty. When I read his posts I can see him as being scum or town.
Gonzo - I am strongly leaning either scum or jester.
CGI - I don't know. I feel uneasy about him. I don't knwo what his scum game looks like. He seems just a tad over the top in his reactions to Gonzo but I am tired and I think I will do better with an unknown later after a bit more sleep.
DaphneMantiz - I was very sus of Daphne on d1. I am not that impressed with her posts so far, it seems like just a lot of skimming and not the insights that I like to get from her, but I am going to give her a bit of time to slide into the game.
Eric - He is looking very sus to me. Very sus.
Town:
Nostrum - cleared town.
gib - I really think he is town. You guys just saw him play a scum game at FF and did you see him get this cranky? I dont think so. In the Kotor game where I actually did have a serious meltdown, Gib got all cranky with me, called me dumb in that game too and I killed him that night cos I thought he was scum. (I was a town compatible SK.) It was my big loss cos I think gib would have helped me in that game and I made it a point to go back and look at a couple of games where he was scum and there is a difference that I am not seeing here.
Athene - she is posting some of the same thoughts that I am having at exactly the same time. I think she is town.
Nightson - I really get a strong town vibe from him. And I disagree with Eric, I did find his list useful.
Feck - His last minute vote switch to Jerome looked townish to me. So does his calling card sarcastic post to me. It didn't come across as him trying to intentionally push me over the edge, it looked more jokey.
Unsure:
Elouise - I have a big question mark here and I am not seeing why other people think she is town! One thing that I have noticed about Elouise is that she asks questions questions questions and I am not seeing it in this game. And she has avoided answering DaphneDreamz and mine's question about Feck. She isn't scum hunting today, she has parked a vote on Feck and has done a fade.
Uselesstwit - I have left him alone cos Nostrum has a strong town read on him. He has said some things that seem townish and he has said some things where I can't follow his reasoning at all.
Fuzzy - Has moved down my list with his chatty opening post today and his vote on Gib. I am not getting the warm fuzzies with him. unsure/possible scum. I am wondering if I misread him on d1.
MagicZiggy - I go back and forth on him and I don't know what to make of it. His game here is very different from his FF game, very different and he just seems suspicious to me. The one thing that he posted that did make me like him a bit more was his post about Nightson landing a town role cos that was my reaction to it as well. unsure/maybe town?
Borealis - I can't read her at all. I am going to have to rely on other people to read her. If I were the seer, I think she would be a good view.
Adenosine - Seems very distracted. I have been wrong about him a couple of times so I am not trusting my read on him like I used to. He seems disengaged and like he really isn't getting his hands dirty. When I read his posts I can see him as being scum or town.
Gonzo - I am strongly leaning either scum or jester.
CGI - I don't know. I feel uneasy about him. I don't knwo what his scum game looks like. He seems just a tad over the top in his reactions to Gonzo but I am tired and I think I will do better with an unknown later after a bit more sleep.
DaphneMantiz - I was very sus of Daphne on d1. I am not that impressed with her posts so far, it seems like just a lot of skimming and not the insights that I like to get from her, but I am going to give her a bit of time to slide into the game.
Eric - He is looking very sus to me. Very sus.
divagreen
19th January 2012, 03:07 PM
##vote nightson## but Diva says she isn't a Seer WTF ..I will check back later to see if Gonzo has anything more to say .
I am not understanding your vote on Nightson at all. Are you hittin da club? You have just moved into my unsure pile.
I am not understanding your vote on Nightson at all. Are you hittin da club? You have just moved into my unsure pile.
gib
19th January 2012, 03:09 PM
i'm not cranky i'm having fun so there
divagreen
19th January 2012, 03:09 PM
yeah that makes sense... stupid approach though, he should have claimed tracker.
what's worrying me is that he dropped the bomb and ran away, he won't explain himself
we could leave him for the vig just in case he's jester, but in that case... who do we lynch?
i'm thinking leave for the vig, much better the vig spends their shot there than killing randomly
When you say vig, you mean a town role, right? I am thinking a SK instead. I would bet money on it. I think it is either a town compatible indie or an indie with a sole survivor who tends to play for town. This game would seem too vig heavy otherwise.
what's worrying me is that he dropped the bomb and ran away, he won't explain himself
we could leave him for the vig just in case he's jester, but in that case... who do we lynch?
i'm thinking leave for the vig, much better the vig spends their shot there than killing randomly
When you say vig, you mean a town role, right? I am thinking a SK instead. I would bet money on it. I think it is either a town compatible indie or an indie with a sole survivor who tends to play for town. This game would seem too vig heavy otherwise.
ericv00
19th January 2012, 03:11 PM
i'm not cranky i'm having fun so there :whyyou:
fify
fify
divagreen
19th January 2012, 03:11 PM
lol
gib
19th January 2012, 03:12 PM
:whyyou:
gib
19th January 2012, 03:14 PM
yeah that makes sense... stupid approach though, he should have claimed tracker.
what's worrying me is that he dropped the bomb and ran away, he won't explain himself
we could leave him for the vig just in case he's jester, but in that case... who do we lynch?
i'm thinking leave for the vig, much better the vig spends their shot there than killing randomly
When you say vig, you mean a town role, right? I am thinking a SK instead. I would bet money on it. I think it is either a town compatible indie or an indie with a sole survivor who tends to play for town. This game would seem too vig heavy otherwise.
good point but either way they can kill Gonzo
what's worrying me is that he dropped the bomb and ran away, he won't explain himself
we could leave him for the vig just in case he's jester, but in that case... who do we lynch?
i'm thinking leave for the vig, much better the vig spends their shot there than killing randomly
When you say vig, you mean a town role, right? I am thinking a SK instead. I would bet money on it. I think it is either a town compatible indie or an indie with a sole survivor who tends to play for town. This game would seem too vig heavy otherwise.
good point but either way they can kill Gonzo
divagreen
19th January 2012, 03:18 PM
Also I will not be around for the day's end, I will be at work.
Gonzo
19th January 2012, 03:18 PM
what the fuck. fuck this.
Gonzo
19th January 2012, 03:18 PM
vote diva
ericv00
19th January 2012, 03:23 PM
What in the world are you doing Gonzo? You are not making any sense. Someone kill him in the night, please.
Gonzo
19th January 2012, 03:30 PM
This game either has a really fucked up design or diva is lying. I don't fucking know. I don't think I'll sign up for another of oblivion's games after this. If this is her idea of a standard game, she's crazy.
gib
19th January 2012, 03:33 PM
Nah I've gotta follow my heart vote gib that looked like some nice townie acting at the end
why did you vote feck initially?
why did you vote feck initially?
Fuzzy
19th January 2012, 03:42 PM
Last on the wagon yesterday, looked like scum trying to get town cred. So does your request for someone to hammer
divagreen
19th January 2012, 03:44 PM
This game either has a really fucked up design or diva is lying. I don't fucking know. I don't think I'll sign up for another of oblivion's games after this. If this is her idea of a standard game, she's crazy.
Gonzo, I am not lying. I am not the seer. I did not get even the remotely same role PM as you. If I were the seer, why the fuck would I lie and say I am not?
I am going to be honest with you. You have a history fake role claiming and that is why I am leaning towards that is what you are doing right now, only I just don't really understand for what purpose unless you are wanting to flush out the real seer which I cannot help but think that is what you are wanting to do. Yesterday I was leaning that maybe you were town and just pulling a stunt bit this is looking more like what you tried to pull with Praying in Dean's game at TR.
Gonzo, I am not lying. I am not the seer. I did not get even the remotely same role PM as you. If I were the seer, why the fuck would I lie and say I am not?
I am going to be honest with you. You have a history fake role claiming and that is why I am leaning towards that is what you are doing right now, only I just don't really understand for what purpose unless you are wanting to flush out the real seer which I cannot help but think that is what you are wanting to do. Yesterday I was leaning that maybe you were town and just pulling a stunt bit this is looking more like what you tried to pull with Praying in Dean's game at TR.
oblivion
19th January 2012, 03:52 PM
Current vote count:
adenosine - 2
gonzo - 2
Feck - 1
cgi - 1
nightson - 1
diva - 1
adenosine - 2
gonzo - 2
Feck - 1
cgi - 1
nightson - 1
diva - 1
gib
19th January 2012, 03:52 PM
feck 1 - elouise, fuzzy
eric 1 - mantdaphne, nostrum
gib 0 - fuzzy
gonzo 1 - MZ, diva, fuzzy
CGI 1 - Adenosine
Adenosine 2 - gib, nostrum, Athene
nightson 2 - CGI, Athene, MZ, feck
diva 1 - gonzo
eric 1 - mantdaphne, nostrum
gib 0 - fuzzy
gonzo 1 - MZ, diva, fuzzy
CGI 1 - Adenosine
Adenosine 2 - gib, nostrum, Athene
nightson 2 - CGI, Athene, MZ, feck
diva 1 - gonzo
oblivion
19th January 2012, 03:52 PM
and Nightfall is in a little over 9 hours from the time of this post.
gib
19th January 2012, 03:53 PM
just as well i'm here
gib
19th January 2012, 03:55 PM
Current vote count:
adenosine - 2
gonzo - 2
Feck - 1
cgi - 1
nightson - 1
diva - 1
feck 1 - elouise, fuzzy
eric 1 - mantdaphne, nostrum
gib 0 - fuzzy
gonzo 1 - MZ, diva, fuzzy
CGI 1 - Adenosine
Adenosine 2 - gib, nostrum, Athene
nightson 2 - CGI, Athene, MZ, feck
diva 1 - gonzo
i counted a vote on CGI and only 1 on gonzo, 0 on feck etc
adenosine - 2
gonzo - 2
Feck - 1
cgi - 1
nightson - 1
diva - 1
feck 1 - elouise, fuzzy
eric 1 - mantdaphne, nostrum
gib 0 - fuzzy
gonzo 1 - MZ, diva, fuzzy
CGI 1 - Adenosine
Adenosine 2 - gib, nostrum, Athene
nightson 2 - CGI, Athene, MZ, feck
diva 1 - gonzo
i counted a vote on CGI and only 1 on gonzo, 0 on feck etc
gib
19th January 2012, 03:55 PM
Current vote count:
adenosine - 2
gonzo - 2
Feck - 1
cgi - 1
nightson - 1
diva - 1
you changed it!
adenosine - 2
gonzo - 2
Feck - 1
cgi - 1
nightson - 1
diva - 1
you changed it!
oblivion
19th January 2012, 03:56 PM
rechecking my count...
oblivion
19th January 2012, 04:04 PM
adenosine - 2
nightson - 2
gonzo - 1
Feck - 1
cgi - 1
eric- 1
diva - 1
nightson - 2
gonzo - 1
Feck - 1
cgi - 1
eric- 1
diva - 1
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 04:04 PM
##vote adenosine##
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 04:08 PM
CGI - I don't know. I feel uneasy about him. I don't knwo what his scum game looks like.
I don't know what my scum game is like either... i haven't been scum in i don't remember how long. that's why i play a bit careless, the vanilla streak made me settle into a very comfortable mentality, i don't really give a shit if i'm lynched, it's no biggie. usually when i get lynched there will be at least one scum caught trying to vote on the easy target.
I don't know what my scum game is like either... i haven't been scum in i don't remember how long. that's why i play a bit careless, the vanilla streak made me settle into a very comfortable mentality, i don't really give a shit if i'm lynched, it's no biggie. usually when i get lynched there will be at least one scum caught trying to vote on the easy target.
ericv00
19th January 2012, 04:13 PM
Maybe I missed it. Gonzo, did you ever explain why you felt prompted to out in the first place?
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 04:20 PM
Gonzo please explain your role PM in detail tia (paraphrasing of course)
nostrum
19th January 2012, 04:40 PM
I think gonzo is town. NFI on his role though. Re vanilla game, that just means no game flavor, not lack of unusual roles. My role is v rare.
Gonzo can you check with ob and post a paraphrase of your role pls.
Re CGI and vig discussion I assumed bolero was vig killed too so I see where he's coming from. I think he's town because scum isn't going to conjecture something like that openly.
Diva you have me wondering now. I've been uneasy about you and trusted UT but now perhaps it should be the other way round.
Eric: I've seen pics of the winter wonderland where you live!! But... post something to convince me you're town, will you?
Ade as usual I don't know about you. But if I assume you are legit,
ade
I think Borealis or MZ.
Thoughts?
Gonzo can you check with ob and post a paraphrase of your role pls.
Re CGI and vig discussion I assumed bolero was vig killed too so I see where he's coming from. I think he's town because scum isn't going to conjecture something like that openly.
Diva you have me wondering now. I've been uneasy about you and trusted UT but now perhaps it should be the other way round.
Eric: I've seen pics of the winter wonderland where you live!! But... post something to convince me you're town, will you?
Ade as usual I don't know about you. But if I assume you are legit,
ade
I think Borealis or MZ.
Thoughts?
nostrum
19th January 2012, 04:40 PM
xpost great minds yada yada
nostrum
19th January 2012, 04:42 PM
Maybe I missed it. Gonzo, did you ever explain why you felt prompted to out in the first place?
He didn't. He got this mess started by saying he had reason to believe diva was town. That is NOT scum play. We shouldn't lynch him.
He didn't. He got this mess started by saying he had reason to believe diva was town. That is NOT scum play. We shouldn't lynch him.
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 04:48 PM
yabut lynch all liars
ericv00
19th January 2012, 04:59 PM
Maybe I missed it. Gonzo, did you ever explain why you felt prompted to out in the first place?
He didn't. He got this mess started by saying he had reason to believe diva was town. That is NOT scum play. We shouldn't lynch him.
Was diva in danger of a lynch at the time?
I don't remember diva being in any real danger yesterday.
He didn't. He got this mess started by saying he had reason to believe diva was town. That is NOT scum play. We shouldn't lynch him.
Was diva in danger of a lynch at the time?
I don't remember diva being in any real danger yesterday.
gib
19th January 2012, 05:01 PM
xpost great minds yada yada
what does this refer to?
what does this refer to?
gib
19th January 2012, 05:02 PM
i've gone off the jester idea for gonzo, looking more like traitor to me now
ericv00
19th January 2012, 05:02 PM
Eric: I've seen pics of the winter wonderland where you live!! But... post something to convince me you're town, will you?
I'm sorry, as you know, my game gets better in later days.
All I can really say is that I think gib and diva are on my towny list. CGI and adenosine are the most questionable to me, aside from the obvious looming Gonzo strangeness.
I'm sorry, as you know, my game gets better in later days.
All I can really say is that I think gib and diva are on my towny list. CGI and adenosine are the most questionable to me, aside from the obvious looming Gonzo strangeness.
ericv00
19th January 2012, 05:03 PM
Hey borealis, what's up?
nostrum
19th January 2012, 05:05 PM
yabut lynch all liars
He only knows his role pm. He could well not be lying based on his knowledge. I'm thinking insane lover.
He only knows his role pm. He could well not be lying based on his knowledge. I'm thinking insane lover.
nostrum
19th January 2012, 05:05 PM
Maybe I missed it. Gonzo, did you ever explain why you felt prompted to out in the first place?
He didn't. He got this mess started by saying he had reason to believe diva was town. That is NOT scum play. We shouldn't lynch him.
Was diva in danger of a lynch at the time?
I don't remember diva being in any real danger yesterday.
She wasn't, no. So it's a real puzzle.
He didn't. He got this mess started by saying he had reason to believe diva was town. That is NOT scum play. We shouldn't lynch him.
Was diva in danger of a lynch at the time?
I don't remember diva being in any real danger yesterday.
She wasn't, no. So it's a real puzzle.
nostrum
19th January 2012, 05:06 PM
xpost great minds yada yada
what does this refer to?
Asking gonzo to paraphrase role
what does this refer to?
Asking gonzo to paraphrase role
divagreen
19th January 2012, 05:06 PM
I think gonzo is town. NFI on his role though. Re vanilla game, that just means no game flavor, not lack of unusual roles. My role is v rare.
Gonzo can you check with ob and post a paraphrase of your role pls.
Re CGI and vig discussion I assumed bolero was vig killed too so I see where he's coming from. I think he's town because scum isn't going to conjecture something like that openly.
Diva you have me wondering now. I've been uneasy about you and trusted UT but now perhaps it should be the other way round.
Eric: I've seen pics of the winter wonderland where you live!! But... post something to convince me you're town, will you?
Ade as usual I don't know about you. But if I assume you are legit,
ade
I think Borealis or MZ.
Thoughts?
Gonzo claims that he received a role PM where I was named as the other seer and that we alternate each night on our views and I am telling you that is not what my role PM says at all. How you are getting a town vibe from this is beyond me.
I don't know what is going on here, this is bizarre. Did you see Dean's game where he faked role blocker to try to frame Praying?
I simply can't see Ob making him seer, telling him that we are on alternate nights, not tell me about it and then giving me a different role altogether.
Gonzo can you check with ob and post a paraphrase of your role pls.
Re CGI and vig discussion I assumed bolero was vig killed too so I see where he's coming from. I think he's town because scum isn't going to conjecture something like that openly.
Diva you have me wondering now. I've been uneasy about you and trusted UT but now perhaps it should be the other way round.
Eric: I've seen pics of the winter wonderland where you live!! But... post something to convince me you're town, will you?
Ade as usual I don't know about you. But if I assume you are legit,
ade
I think Borealis or MZ.
Thoughts?
Gonzo claims that he received a role PM where I was named as the other seer and that we alternate each night on our views and I am telling you that is not what my role PM says at all. How you are getting a town vibe from this is beyond me.
I don't know what is going on here, this is bizarre. Did you see Dean's game where he faked role blocker to try to frame Praying?
I simply can't see Ob making him seer, telling him that we are on alternate nights, not tell me about it and then giving me a different role altogether.
nostrum
19th January 2012, 05:07 PM
Eric: I've seen pics of the winter wonderland where you live!! But... post something to convince me you're town, will you?
I'm sorry, as you know, my game gets better in later days.
All I can really say is that I think gib and diva are on my towny list. CGI and adenosine are the most questionable to me, aside from the obvious looming Gonzo strangeness.
Thoughts on Borealis? And elouise?
I'm sorry, as you know, my game gets better in later days.
All I can really say is that I think gib and diva are on my towny list. CGI and adenosine are the most questionable to me, aside from the obvious looming Gonzo strangeness.
Thoughts on Borealis? And elouise?
nostrum
19th January 2012, 05:07 PM
Hmm elouise.... you could be scum.
nostrum
19th January 2012, 05:08 PM
Elouise and UT and Borealis.
ericv00
19th January 2012, 05:09 PM
It makes no sense for a towny to post as he has, as far as I can tell. There has to be something more to his role and he is not talking. I don't think it is pro-town, so we need to decide HOW we deal with him. If we do have a vig or even a SK, I am of the opinion that they should kill Gonzo.
nostrum
19th January 2012, 05:10 PM
I think gonzo is town. NFI on his role though. Re vanilla game, that just means no game flavor, not lack of unusual roles. My role is v rare.
Gonzo can you check with ob and post a paraphrase of your role pls.
Re CGI and vig discussion I assumed bolero was vig killed too so I see where he's coming from. I think he's town because scum isn't going to conjecture something like that openly.
Diva you have me wondering now. I've been uneasy about you and trusted UT but now perhaps it should be the other way round.
Eric: I've seen pics of the winter wonderland where you live!! But... post something to convince me you're town, will you?
Ade as usual I don't know about you. But if I assume you are legit,
ade
I think Borealis or MZ.
Thoughts?
Gonzo claims that he received a role PM where I was named as the other seer and that we alternate each night on our views and I am telling you that is not what my role PM says at all. How you are getting a town vibe from this is beyond me.
I don't know what is going on here, this is bizarre. Did you see Dean's game where he faked role blocker to try to frame Praying?
I simply can't see Ob making him seer, telling him that we are on alternate nights, not tell me about it and then giving me a different role altogether.
His reaction seems extremely townish indignant like we've seen before. He mentioned you. Seems too bizarre a setup IMO. I can't see him as scum.
Gonzo can you check with ob and post a paraphrase of your role pls.
Re CGI and vig discussion I assumed bolero was vig killed too so I see where he's coming from. I think he's town because scum isn't going to conjecture something like that openly.
Diva you have me wondering now. I've been uneasy about you and trusted UT but now perhaps it should be the other way round.
Eric: I've seen pics of the winter wonderland where you live!! But... post something to convince me you're town, will you?
Ade as usual I don't know about you. But if I assume you are legit,
ade
I think Borealis or MZ.
Thoughts?
Gonzo claims that he received a role PM where I was named as the other seer and that we alternate each night on our views and I am telling you that is not what my role PM says at all. How you are getting a town vibe from this is beyond me.
I don't know what is going on here, this is bizarre. Did you see Dean's game where he faked role blocker to try to frame Praying?
I simply can't see Ob making him seer, telling him that we are on alternate nights, not tell me about it and then giving me a different role altogether.
His reaction seems extremely townish indignant like we've seen before. He mentioned you. Seems too bizarre a setup IMO. I can't see him as scum.
ericv00
19th January 2012, 05:11 PM
Eric: I've seen pics of the winter wonderland where you live!! But... post something to convince me you're town, will you?
I'm sorry, as you know, my game gets better in later days.
All I can really say is that I think gib and diva are on my towny list. CGI and adenosine are the most questionable to me, aside from the obvious looming Gonzo strangeness.
Thoughts on Borealis? And elouise?
I haven't noticed them at all, so that is kind of a bad sign. Going to reread their posts in isolation...
I'm sorry, as you know, my game gets better in later days.
All I can really say is that I think gib and diva are on my towny list. CGI and adenosine are the most questionable to me, aside from the obvious looming Gonzo strangeness.
Thoughts on Borealis? And elouise?
I haven't noticed them at all, so that is kind of a bad sign. Going to reread their posts in isolation...
borealis
19th January 2012, 05:15 PM
Hey borealis, what's up?
Busy-ness, mostly.
Also, I wish people would quit thinking I'm scum on Athene's sayso. Yes, I whined about her fossing me early so often, and she returned with 'yes and you were scum/indie those time'. But I remembered it differently and she isn't right this time. I've been scum/indie in so many games I'm not surprised at her fos, or anyone agreeing, and I won't be too upset if I do get lynched, means more info for town at least. Still, annoying.
More importantly: Gonzo. Yesterday I thought he might be a jester or a lynchee/lyncher thing. With what he said today I wonder if he's an insane/paranoid seer, or even if/and he has a posting restriction which doesn't allow him to explain himself.
I think he's a huge distraction, so if a vig/sk wants to nk him, fine, but I'd prefer to see someone else lynched. Preferably not me.
CGI worries me, so does Nightson, although since Gonzo fingered him I'm inclined to think he's town. Not really getting the Adenosine fos, but I haven't had time to do more than skim the thread.
Busy-ness, mostly.
Also, I wish people would quit thinking I'm scum on Athene's sayso. Yes, I whined about her fossing me early so often, and she returned with 'yes and you were scum/indie those time'. But I remembered it differently and she isn't right this time. I've been scum/indie in so many games I'm not surprised at her fos, or anyone agreeing, and I won't be too upset if I do get lynched, means more info for town at least. Still, annoying.
More importantly: Gonzo. Yesterday I thought he might be a jester or a lynchee/lyncher thing. With what he said today I wonder if he's an insane/paranoid seer, or even if/and he has a posting restriction which doesn't allow him to explain himself.
I think he's a huge distraction, so if a vig/sk wants to nk him, fine, but I'd prefer to see someone else lynched. Preferably not me.
CGI worries me, so does Nightson, although since Gonzo fingered him I'm inclined to think he's town. Not really getting the Adenosine fos, but I haven't had time to do more than skim the thread.
borealis
19th January 2012, 05:23 PM
Okay, not really getting the Adenosine bw. Can someone link me to a post or two that looks scummy?
borealis
19th January 2012, 05:30 PM
yeah good thing bolero was town, now the late switchers to jerome are semi-cleared.
on all the other sites i play, the vig usually says pass until there's a strong suspicion on someone, since there's a higher chance of hitting town when there's low info... but for some reason that never caught on at TR. i assume ratz was similar?
Fishing for the vig?
CGI
Okay, this seems to be the Adenosine thing.
But I kinda agree that CGI looks like he's focussing on a possible vig, even if that isn't what he intended. So I don't see Adenosine's response as being that out of the ordinary.
on all the other sites i play, the vig usually says pass until there's a strong suspicion on someone, since there's a higher chance of hitting town when there's low info... but for some reason that never caught on at TR. i assume ratz was similar?
Fishing for the vig?
CGI
Okay, this seems to be the Adenosine thing.
But I kinda agree that CGI looks like he's focussing on a possible vig, even if that isn't what he intended. So I don't see Adenosine's response as being that out of the ordinary.
nostrum
19th January 2012, 05:36 PM
yeah good thing bolero was town, now the late switchers to jerome are semi-cleared.
on all the other sites i play, the vig usually says pass until there's a strong suspicion on someone, since there's a higher chance of hitting town when there's low info... but for some reason that never caught on at TR. i assume ratz was similar?
Fishing for the vig?
CGI
Okay, this seems to be the Adenosine thing.
But I kinda agree that CGI looks like he's focussing on a possible vig, even if that isn't what he intended. So I don't see Adenosine's response as being that out of the ordinary.
You're looking towny right now. Your read on athene?
on all the other sites i play, the vig usually says pass until there's a strong suspicion on someone, since there's a higher chance of hitting town when there's low info... but for some reason that never caught on at TR. i assume ratz was similar?
Fishing for the vig?
CGI
Okay, this seems to be the Adenosine thing.
But I kinda agree that CGI looks like he's focussing on a possible vig, even if that isn't what he intended. So I don't see Adenosine's response as being that out of the ordinary.
You're looking towny right now. Your read on athene?
nostrum
19th January 2012, 05:37 PM
Elouise. UT. MZ.
Athene?
Athene?
ericv00
19th January 2012, 05:42 PM
I'm too distracted with Gonzo. I'm going to take a walk and go to the store (in a winter wonderland!). Hopefully come back with a fresh mind.
I'd like to see some probing of UT. There has been some talk, but I haven't seen anything yet that stands out to me.
I'd like to see some probing of UT. There has been some talk, but I haven't seen anything yet that stands out to me.
nostrum
19th January 2012, 05:50 PM
I'm too distracted with Gonzo. I'm going to take a walk and go to the store (in a winter wonderland!). Hopefully come back with a fresh mind.
I'd like to see some probing of UT. There has been some talk, but I haven't seen anything yet that stands out to me.
Who wouldn't like to see some probing of UT? http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w275/miles2cute/smiley/naughtyflick.gif
I'd like to see some probing of UT. There has been some talk, but I haven't seen anything yet that stands out to me.
Who wouldn't like to see some probing of UT? http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w275/miles2cute/smiley/naughtyflick.gif
nostrum
19th January 2012, 05:51 PM
You take care in that snow!
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 05:53 PM
it's good that people are talking and developing trust... but i don't like the nostrum eric didsaster team coming together again. it took you quite a few days to flush praying out.
nostrum
19th January 2012, 06:02 PM
it's good that people are talking and developing trust... but i don't like the nostrum eric didsaster team coming together again. it took you quite a few days to flush praying out.
:hehe: I don't expect to be listened to more than anyone else.
Who are your top suspects?
:hehe: I don't expect to be listened to more than anyone else.
Who are your top suspects?
Tardigrade
19th January 2012, 06:03 PM
Having a sly Mafia game without me?
This will not be tolerated.
This will not be tolerated.
gib
19th January 2012, 06:04 PM
yabut lynch all liars
He only knows his role pm. He could well not be lying based on his knowledge. I'm thinking insane lover.
insane lover who was told he's a seer on alternate days with someone who knows nothing about it, yes that'll be it!
seriously r u mental?
He only knows his role pm. He could well not be lying based on his knowledge. I'm thinking insane lover.
insane lover who was told he's a seer on alternate days with someone who knows nothing about it, yes that'll be it!
seriously r u mental?
nostrum
19th January 2012, 06:06 PM
With my insomnia: quite possibly :sadyes:
nostrum
19th January 2012, 06:07 PM
Gonzo seems town to me.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 06:43 PM
bullpuckies, no way is gonzo town, this is reminding me of exactly the way he fake claimed as the town roleblocker over at tr. He spends day one hinting that he's the lover with diva, now he's the alternate seer and outs the other seer? Really? how is that town? My best guess is he will take either the first or last person who votes to lynch him down also. If we have a vig or a town compatible sk, kill gonzo tonight please, it'll buy you all sorts of points with me at least. No matter what we can't have gonzo around at endgame, he's to much a distraction.
and nos, why did scum not target gonzo last night? most of us seemed to think he was a lover, if he's not scum why would they pass up the chance for a dual kill? and if he is town but not the seer, fingering nightson will probably unnecessarily kill a player i'm getting a good town vibe off of right now.
and nos, why did scum not target gonzo last night? most of us seemed to think he was a lover, if he's not scum why would they pass up the chance for a dual kill? and if he is town but not the seer, fingering nightson will probably unnecessarily kill a player i'm getting a good town vibe off of right now.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 06:51 PM
Right now, i'm thinking athene, or mz would be the best lynch candidates for today.
borealis
19th January 2012, 06:59 PM
Hmm. I can see mz, but any special reason for Athene?
nostrum
19th January 2012, 07:15 PM
Right now, i'm thinking athene, or mz would be the best lynch candidates for today.
What about elouise?
What about elouise?
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 07:15 PM
She's not been as potent as i like seeing her town game, it feels like she's trying to do just enough not to draw attention.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 07:16 PM
Right now, i'm thinking athene, or mz would be the best lynch candidates for today.
What about elouise?
sorry my post above this was about athene.
I'm actually leaning kind of townish on elouise atm.
What about elouise?
sorry my post above this was about athene.
I'm actually leaning kind of townish on elouise atm.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 07:18 PM
nos? am i in my box again with gonzo? I've tried some out of the box ideas but for any of them to be true it would have had to be really poorly handled by him.
ericv00
19th January 2012, 07:21 PM
You take care in that snow!
Oh my it is lovely out there!
And now I have just gotten seated with some smoked herring, cheese, bread, and Chianti.
I think, just maybe, I'll survive the weather. :]
Oh my it is lovely out there!
And now I have just gotten seated with some smoked herring, cheese, bread, and Chianti.
I think, just maybe, I'll survive the weather. :]
nostrum
19th January 2012, 07:22 PM
nos? am i in my box again with gonzo? I've tried some out of the box ideas but for any of them to be true it would have had to be really poorly handled by him.
No you're not. All logic tells me he can't be a pro-town role, but his emotional post says town to me. He's never faked that level of indignance before. You could be right, he could be a bomb. But, why involve diva? He told her he loved her.
No you're not. All logic tells me he can't be a pro-town role, but his emotional post says town to me. He's never faked that level of indignance before. You could be right, he could be a bomb. But, why involve diva? He told her he loved her.
ericv00
19th January 2012, 07:26 PM
it's good that people are talking and developing trust... but i don't like the nostrum eric didsaster team coming together again. it took you quite a few days to flush praying out.
Excuse me? Everyone had made up there minds about nostrum. I urged people to think again. It would have taken LONGER for town to flush out praying if I didn't do that.
Here is the thing, nostrum and I generally read each other well. I don't need to read nostrum anymore because she is cleared, but you should like nostrum having a back and forth with me because she can try to get a better read on me.
Excuse me? Everyone had made up there minds about nostrum. I urged people to think again. It would have taken LONGER for town to flush out praying if I didn't do that.
Here is the thing, nostrum and I generally read each other well. I don't need to read nostrum anymore because she is cleared, but you should like nostrum having a back and forth with me because she can try to get a better read on me.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 07:27 PM
nos? am i in my box again with gonzo? I've tried some out of the box ideas but for any of them to be true it would have had to be really poorly handled by him.
No you're not. All logic tells me he can't be a pro-town role, but his emotional post says town to me. He's never faked that level of indignance before. You could be right, he could be a bomb. But, why involve diva? He told her he loved her.
that's the thing, it would fall flat on it's face if diva were scum or if nightson flipped innocent on the lynch. either he's trying to pull the lynch or he's flubbed it.
No you're not. All logic tells me he can't be a pro-town role, but his emotional post says town to me. He's never faked that level of indignance before. You could be right, he could be a bomb. But, why involve diva? He told her he loved her.
that's the thing, it would fall flat on it's face if diva were scum or if nightson flipped innocent on the lynch. either he's trying to pull the lynch or he's flubbed it.
gib
19th January 2012, 07:28 PM
anyone particularly opposed to UT's idea that we should lynch MZ or Athene?
borealis
19th January 2012, 07:30 PM
It does look like he's still actually trying to be lynched. The 'indignation' has to be faked, since he has to know how bizarre his claims are. And he's still being a huge distraction.
ericv00
19th January 2012, 07:30 PM
nos? am i in my box again with gonzo? I've tried some out of the box ideas but for any of them to be true it would have had to be really poorly handled by him.
No you're not. All logic tells me he can't be a pro-town role, but his emotional post says town to me. He's never faked that level of indignance before. You could be right, he could be a bomb. But, why involve diva? He told her he loved her.
Why post that information at all? Diva was not under any pressure.
Gonzo is not pro-town. He NEEDS to talk more if he is and explain himself excruciatingly well.
No you're not. All logic tells me he can't be a pro-town role, but his emotional post says town to me. He's never faked that level of indignance before. You could be right, he could be a bomb. But, why involve diva? He told her he loved her.
Why post that information at all? Diva was not under any pressure.
Gonzo is not pro-town. He NEEDS to talk more if he is and explain himself excruciatingly well.
borealis
19th January 2012, 07:31 PM
It does look like he's still actually trying to be lynched. The 'indignation' has to be faked, since he has to know how bizarre his claims are. And he's still being a huge distraction.
'He' being gonzo, of course.
'He' being gonzo, of course.
gib
19th January 2012, 07:32 PM
nos? am i in my box again with gonzo? I've tried some out of the box ideas but for any of them to be true it would have had to be really poorly handled by him.
No you're not. All logic tells me he can't be a pro-town role, but his emotional post says town to me. He's never faked that level of indignance before. You could be right, he could be a bomb. But, why involve diva? He told her he loved her.
Why post that information at all? Diva was not under any pressure.
Gonzo is not pro-town. He NEEDS to talk more if he is and explain himself excruciatingly well.
he needs to die
No you're not. All logic tells me he can't be a pro-town role, but his emotional post says town to me. He's never faked that level of indignance before. You could be right, he could be a bomb. But, why involve diva? He told her he loved her.
Why post that information at all? Diva was not under any pressure.
Gonzo is not pro-town. He NEEDS to talk more if he is and explain himself excruciatingly well.
he needs to die
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 07:33 PM
anyone particularly opposed to UT's idea that we should lynch MZ or Athene?
i'd prefer mz before athene, i have a better track record of reading him, and this is not the town game i'm seeing.
mz
i'd prefer mz before athene, i have a better track record of reading him, and this is not the town game i'm seeing.
mz
borealis
19th January 2012, 07:34 PM
anyone particularly opposed to UT's idea that we should lynch MZ or Athene?
I'd like a more concrete explanation of why. Yes, Athene's a bit less active than usual, but doesn't strike me as scummy. I'm more comfortable with an MZ lynch, maybe.
I'd like a more concrete explanation of why. Yes, Athene's a bit less active than usual, but doesn't strike me as scummy. I'm more comfortable with an MZ lynch, maybe.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 07:34 PM
nos? am i in my box again with gonzo? I've tried some out of the box ideas but for any of them to be true it would have had to be really poorly handled by him.
No you're not. All logic tells me he can't be a pro-town role, but his emotional post says town to me. He's never faked that level of indignance before. You could be right, he could be a bomb. But, why involve diva? He told her he loved her.
Why post that information at all? Diva was not under any pressure.
Gonzo is not pro-town. He NEEDS to talk more if he is and explain himself excruciatingly well.
he needs to die
yep he does, and if it's not done tonight we almost have to lynch him tomorrow. he sure as hell can't be left to endgame.
No you're not. All logic tells me he can't be a pro-town role, but his emotional post says town to me. He's never faked that level of indignance before. You could be right, he could be a bomb. But, why involve diva? He told her he loved her.
Why post that information at all? Diva was not under any pressure.
Gonzo is not pro-town. He NEEDS to talk more if he is and explain himself excruciatingly well.
he needs to die
yep he does, and if it's not done tonight we almost have to lynch him tomorrow. he sure as hell can't be left to endgame.
borealis
19th January 2012, 07:36 PM
I could agree to a gonzo lynch tomorrow if he's still around.
ericv00
19th January 2012, 07:36 PM
nos? am i in my box again with gonzo? I've tried some out of the box ideas but for any of them to be true it would have had to be really poorly handled by him.
No you're not. All logic tells me he can't be a pro-town role, but his emotional post says town to me. He's never faked that level of indignance before. You could be right, he could be a bomb. But, why involve diva? He told her he loved her.
Why post that information at all? Diva was not under any pressure.
Gonzo is not pro-town. He NEEDS to talk more if he is and explain himself excruciatingly well.
he needs to die
Do we feel convinced that our vig/SK will kill gonzo tonight? I'm not comfortable with his lynch today. Who else looks like a good lynch candidate today?
I'm not against athene or MZ, but I have little opinions about them right now. Is there a case to be made for either of them?
No you're not. All logic tells me he can't be a pro-town role, but his emotional post says town to me. He's never faked that level of indignance before. You could be right, he could be a bomb. But, why involve diva? He told her he loved her.
Why post that information at all? Diva was not under any pressure.
Gonzo is not pro-town. He NEEDS to talk more if he is and explain himself excruciatingly well.
he needs to die
Do we feel convinced that our vig/SK will kill gonzo tonight? I'm not comfortable with his lynch today. Who else looks like a good lynch candidate today?
I'm not against athene or MZ, but I have little opinions about them right now. Is there a case to be made for either of them?
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 07:37 PM
nightson
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 07:38 PM
nos? am i in my box again with gonzo? I've tried some out of the box ideas but for any of them to be true it would have had to be really poorly handled by him.
No you're not. All logic tells me he can't be a pro-town role, but his emotional post says town to me. He's never faked that level of indignance before. You could be right, he could be a bomb. But, why involve diva? He told her he loved her.
Why post that information at all? Diva was not under any pressure.
Gonzo is not pro-town. He NEEDS to talk more if he is and explain himself excruciatingly well.
he needs to die
Do we feel convinced that our vig/SK will kill gonzo tonight? I'm not comfortable with his lynch today. Who else looks like a good lynch candidate today?
I'm not against athene or MZ, but I have little opinions about them right now. Is there a case to be made for either of them?
The case against me is .... What exactly???
No you're not. All logic tells me he can't be a pro-town role, but his emotional post says town to me. He's never faked that level of indignance before. You could be right, he could be a bomb. But, why involve diva? He told her he loved her.
Why post that information at all? Diva was not under any pressure.
Gonzo is not pro-town. He NEEDS to talk more if he is and explain himself excruciatingly well.
he needs to die
Do we feel convinced that our vig/SK will kill gonzo tonight? I'm not comfortable with his lynch today. Who else looks like a good lynch candidate today?
I'm not against athene or MZ, but I have little opinions about them right now. Is there a case to be made for either of them?
The case against me is .... What exactly???
ericv00
19th January 2012, 07:39 PM
The case against me is .... What exactly???
That's what I am asking.
That's what I am asking.
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 07:41 PM
Gonzo looks like a scumb bomb... Keep him around for another day.
gib
19th January 2012, 07:41 PM
gonzo is a huge distraction today, if he's still alive in the morning we can plan for it then, meanwhile we need to get some kind of consensus going on who to lynch. MZ is looking a decent candidate atm
gib
19th January 2012, 07:42 PM
nos? am i in my box again with gonzo? I've tried some out of the box ideas but for any of them to be true it would have had to be really poorly handled by him.
No you're not. All logic tells me he can't be a pro-town role, but his emotional post says town to me. He's never faked that level of indignance before. You could be right, he could be a bomb. But, why involve diva? He told her he loved her.
Why post that information at all? Diva was not under any pressure.
Gonzo is not pro-town. He NEEDS to talk more if he is and explain himself excruciatingly well.
he needs to die
Do we feel convinced that our vig/SK will kill gonzo tonight? I'm not comfortable with his lynch today. Who else looks like a good lynch candidate today?
I'm not against athene or MZ, but I have little opinions about them right now. Is there a case to be made for either of them?
The case against me is .... What exactly???
you're not doing any of the things you do as town
No you're not. All logic tells me he can't be a pro-town role, but his emotional post says town to me. He's never faked that level of indignance before. You could be right, he could be a bomb. But, why involve diva? He told her he loved her.
Why post that information at all? Diva was not under any pressure.
Gonzo is not pro-town. He NEEDS to talk more if he is and explain himself excruciatingly well.
he needs to die
Do we feel convinced that our vig/SK will kill gonzo tonight? I'm not comfortable with his lynch today. Who else looks like a good lynch candidate today?
I'm not against athene or MZ, but I have little opinions about them right now. Is there a case to be made for either of them?
The case against me is .... What exactly???
you're not doing any of the things you do as town
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 07:42 PM
The case against me is .... What exactly???
That's what I am asking.
Just adding weight to your question. Because I'll be fascinated with the responses ... UT?
That's what I am asking.
Just adding weight to your question. Because I'll be fascinated with the responses ... UT?
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 07:45 PM
No you're not. All logic tells me he can't be a pro-town role, but his emotional post says town to me. He's never faked that level of indignance before. You could be right, he could be a bomb. But, why involve diva? He told her he loved her.
Why post that information at all? Diva was not under any pressure.
Gonzo is not pro-town. He NEEDS to talk more if he is and explain himself excruciatingly well.
he needs to die
Do we feel convinced that our vig/SK will kill gonzo tonight? I'm not comfortable with his lynch today. Who else looks like a good lynch candidate today?
I'm not against athene or MZ, but I have little opinions about them right now. Is there a case to be made for either of them?
The case against me is .... What exactly???
you're not doing any of the things you do as town
Oh.. So I haven't dropped a scum tell... Just failed to live up to town expectation
With the posting time available I've done what I can
Why post that information at all? Diva was not under any pressure.
Gonzo is not pro-town. He NEEDS to talk more if he is and explain himself excruciatingly well.
he needs to die
Do we feel convinced that our vig/SK will kill gonzo tonight? I'm not comfortable with his lynch today. Who else looks like a good lynch candidate today?
I'm not against athene or MZ, but I have little opinions about them right now. Is there a case to be made for either of them?
The case against me is .... What exactly???
you're not doing any of the things you do as town
Oh.. So I haven't dropped a scum tell... Just failed to live up to town expectation
With the posting time available I've done what I can
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 07:47 PM
I say we lynch nostrum.
Day vig ??? Taking out zigmen
Calling gonzo town?
That doesn't look good
Day vig ??? Taking out zigmen
Calling gonzo town?
That doesn't look good
ericv00
19th January 2012, 07:49 PM
On a quick reread from today, I disagree with a lot of MZ's posts. Not a strong case for anything, but enough that I will be comfortable being on the BW if we get one started.
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 07:50 PM
On a quick reread from today, I disagree with a lot of MZ's posts. Not a strong case for anything, but enough that I will be comfortable being on the BW if we get one started.
Weak as piss Eric.
Weak as piss Eric.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 07:50 PM
The case against me is .... What exactly???
That's what I am asking.
Just adding weight to your question. Because I'll be fascinated with the responses ... UT?
Be happy to answer. Your town game is marked by lots of vote switches, lots of prodding questions, and usually some eally twisted logic to get people responding. This game your vote yesterday was sticky and you really didn't get on any ones case to any great extent. Today you actually led off saying you were right about voting bolero even though she flipped town, and have just been following along with very little thought.
That's what I am asking.
Just adding weight to your question. Because I'll be fascinated with the responses ... UT?
Be happy to answer. Your town game is marked by lots of vote switches, lots of prodding questions, and usually some eally twisted logic to get people responding. This game your vote yesterday was sticky and you really didn't get on any ones case to any great extent. Today you actually led off saying you were right about voting bolero even though she flipped town, and have just been following along with very little thought.
ericv00
19th January 2012, 07:52 PM
On a quick reread from today, I disagree with a lot of MZ's posts. Not a strong case for anything, but enough that I will be comfortable being on the BW if we get one started.
Weak as piss Eric.
There is a post I agree with. And I said so much in the post you are quoting.
Weak as piss Eric.
There is a post I agree with. And I said so much in the post you are quoting.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 07:52 PM
and now you're looking a bit flaily.
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 07:52 PM
That's MZ town when he's busy followed by being asleep..
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 07:54 PM
I don't think this game would have a day vig and a full blown night vig
gib
19th January 2012, 07:55 PM
Oh.. So I haven't dropped a scum tell... Just failed to live up to town expectation
With the posting time available I've done what I can
assuming you're town and telling he truth then i have to wonder how much use your reads are gonna be if your heart's not really in the game
With the posting time available I've done what I can
assuming you're town and telling he truth then i have to wonder how much use your reads are gonna be if your heart's not really in the game
ericv00
19th January 2012, 07:55 PM
I don't think this game would have a day vig and a full blown night vig
Okay.
:dunno: That's not really the main issue at the moment.
Okay.
:dunno: That's not really the main issue at the moment.
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 07:56 PM
I considered killing nostrum last night.. But as gib correctly stated... The bolero wagon needed clarity and there was a chance she was scum.. I won't touch gonzo until there's a view. I'd like to lynch nostrum
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 07:56 PM
i don't think so either mz, and both eric and i have commented on it. but it is a ob game which means there's a good chance the sk is likely town compatible.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 07:58 PM
so you're claiming vig? then come out and claim it.
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 07:58 PM
Im a town vig... Not sk
ericv00
19th January 2012, 07:58 PM
I considered killing nostrum last night.. But as gib correctly stated... The bolero wagon needed clarity and there was a chance she was scum.. I won't touch gonzo until there's a view. I'd like to lynch nostrum
What else could nostrum be?
What else could nostrum be?
gib
19th January 2012, 07:58 PM
I say we lynch nostrum.
Day vig ??? Taking out zigmen
Calling gonzo town?
That doesn't look good
heh the gonzo thing had me so frustrated i wanted to lynch her too
but what kind of scum role gets a day kill, never heard of that
Day vig ??? Taking out zigmen
Calling gonzo town?
That doesn't look good
heh the gonzo thing had me so frustrated i wanted to lynch her too
but what kind of scum role gets a day kill, never heard of that
ericv00
19th January 2012, 07:59 PM
This is getting complicated really fast.
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 07:59 PM
I considered killing nostrum last night.. But as gib correctly stated... The bolero wagon needed clarity and there was a chance she was scum.. I won't touch gonzo until there's a view. I'd like to lynch nostrum
What else could nostrum be?
Dunno.. But no one but her saw that she was forced to out and then kill zigmen
What else could nostrum be?
Dunno.. But no one but her saw that she was forced to out and then kill zigmen
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 08:01 PM
it is possible for scum to have a day kill, but it's very very rare. i'd bet mz as sk before i'd buy that.
and why wait for gonzo to be viewed mz?
and why wait for gonzo to be viewed mz?
gib
19th January 2012, 08:02 PM
MZ as vig makes sense, i buy it
ericv00
19th January 2012, 08:02 PM
I considered killing nostrum last night.. But as gib correctly stated... The bolero wagon needed clarity and there was a chance she was scum.. I won't touch gonzo until there's a view. I'd like to lynch nostrum
What else could nostrum be?
Dunno.. But no one but her saw that she was forced to out and then kill zigmen
She was forced to out. I could see that. As soon as I read zigmen's posts it was obvious to me. Nostrum made a mistake that zigmen exploited to town's disadvantage.
What else could nostrum be?
Dunno.. But no one but her saw that she was forced to out and then kill zigmen
She was forced to out. I could see that. As soon as I read zigmen's posts it was obvious to me. Nostrum made a mistake that zigmen exploited to town's disadvantage.
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 08:03 PM
it is possible for scum to have a day kill, but it's very very rare. i'd bet mz as sk before i'd buy that.
and why wait for gonzo to be viewed mz?
Because I think he's a bomb... I'd like to be sure of his alignment. Keep him in the game and take him out later
and why wait for gonzo to be viewed mz?
Because I think he's a bomb... I'd like to be sure of his alignment. Keep him in the game and take him out later
ericv00
19th January 2012, 08:04 PM
MZ as vig makes sense, i buy it
How so?
How so?
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 08:04 PM
mz
but your kills better be damn town looking from now on.
but your kills better be damn town looking from now on.
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 08:05 PM
mz
but your kills better be damn town looking from now on.
Who would you have killed?
but your kills better be damn town looking from now on.
Who would you have killed?
ericv00
19th January 2012, 08:05 PM
What do we expect of scum if we have a one shot day vig and a real vig?
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 08:06 PM
Bolero was no more than vanilla and her death has given town clarity over a bandwagon.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 08:09 PM
MZ as vig makes sense, i buy it
mz as sk makes more sense, look at his logic today. he wants nostrum lynched because he doesn't think town would have a day kill and a vig. but he had a kill last night and didn't use it on her, why? because he thought she would flip town until her post about gonzo gave him an excuse.
mz as sk makes more sense, look at his logic today. he wants nostrum lynched because he doesn't think town would have a day kill and a vig. but he had a kill last night and didn't use it on her, why? because he thought she would flip town until her post about gonzo gave him an excuse.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 08:13 PM
mz
but your kills better be damn town looking from now on.
Who would you have killed?
i would have toasted gonzo, just like i counciled nos yesterday, he has to go before endgame and he seems to be trying to pull the lynch. if he took me with him so be it, it would help town. and since if you really are the vig you're going to be the scum nk tonight, it doesn't matter if he is the bomb, you don't have a shelf life in this game now that you've outed anyway.
but your kills better be damn town looking from now on.
Who would you have killed?
i would have toasted gonzo, just like i counciled nos yesterday, he has to go before endgame and he seems to be trying to pull the lynch. if he took me with him so be it, it would help town. and since if you really are the vig you're going to be the scum nk tonight, it doesn't matter if he is the bomb, you don't have a shelf life in this game now that you've outed anyway.
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 08:14 PM
MZ as vig makes sense, i buy it
mz as sk makes more sense, look at his logic today. he wants nostrum lynched because he doesn't think town would have a day kill and a vig. but he had a kill last night and didn't use it on her, why? because he thought she would flip town until her post about gonzo gave him an excuse.
I will view as town.. Not Indy.. I win with town... I don't have to survive.
I'm the town vig .. No an sk. My kill not being the same as what you would do does not make me an sk. You will no doubt explain away your crap read of me by blaming me... Just like nostrum last game. I really don't care..
mz as sk makes more sense, look at his logic today. he wants nostrum lynched because he doesn't think town would have a day kill and a vig. but he had a kill last night and didn't use it on her, why? because he thought she would flip town until her post about gonzo gave him an excuse.
I will view as town.. Not Indy.. I win with town... I don't have to survive.
I'm the town vig .. No an sk. My kill not being the same as what you would do does not make me an sk. You will no doubt explain away your crap read of me by blaming me... Just like nostrum last game. I really don't care..
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 08:15 PM
ok some interresting developments. given all the accusations flying around i am keeping my vote where it is, it worked yesterday...
MZ if you really are town compatible please kill gonzo tonight, we can't have tomorrow be just as confusing as today.
MZ if you really are town compatible please kill gonzo tonight, we can't have tomorrow be just as confusing as today.
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 08:16 PM
Fuck it... If your so sure of gonzo... Lynch him... What's the problem?
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 08:16 PM
What do we expect of scum if we have a one shot day vig and a real vig?
i'd expect it to be very special heavy, since mz is claiming full vig instead of one shot, town gets double the killing power. more than that actually with nos in the mix. but jerome flipped vanilla so the scum that are left have either a lot of power or mz is a sk.
i'd expect it to be very special heavy, since mz is claiming full vig instead of one shot, town gets double the killing power. more than that actually with nos in the mix. but jerome flipped vanilla so the scum that are left have either a lot of power or mz is a sk.
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 08:19 PM
Fuck it... If your so sure of gonzo... Lynch him... What's the problem?
he seems to be trying to get lynched. you got a better target for tonight?
i don't see why you're suddenly calling shots, you're the one who needs to prove himself
he seems to be trying to get lynched. you got a better target for tonight?
i don't see why you're suddenly calling shots, you're the one who needs to prove himself
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 08:20 PM
What do we expect of scum if we have a one shot day vig and a real vig?
i'd expect it to be very special heavy, since mz is claiming full vig instead of one shot, town gets double the killing power. more than that actually with nos in the mix. but jerome flipped vanilla so the scum that are left have either a lot of power or mz is a sk.
i don't see a vig as a very powerful town role, most of the time he made 4-5 town kills per one scum kill, at least on TR, which is on par with what you would expect from a random killer or even marginally worse.
i'd expect it to be very special heavy, since mz is claiming full vig instead of one shot, town gets double the killing power. more than that actually with nos in the mix. but jerome flipped vanilla so the scum that are left have either a lot of power or mz is a sk.
i don't see a vig as a very powerful town role, most of the time he made 4-5 town kills per one scum kill, at least on TR, which is on par with what you would expect from a random killer or even marginally worse.
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 08:21 PM
Fuck it... If your so sure of gonzo... Lynch him... What's the problem?
he seems to be trying to get lynched. you got a better target for tonight?
i don't see why you're suddenly calling shots, you're the one who needs to prove himself
I'm not calling the shots .. People are telling me to kill gonzo... Who's going to kill nostrum then... If she's lying she's got a ticket through to end game.
he seems to be trying to get lynched. you got a better target for tonight?
i don't see why you're suddenly calling shots, you're the one who needs to prove himself
I'm not calling the shots .. People are telling me to kill gonzo... Who's going to kill nostrum then... If she's lying she's got a ticket through to end game.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 08:21 PM
Fuck it... If your so sure of gonzo... Lynch him... What's the problem?
because he seems to want to be lynched, so taking him out at night is probably a good thing for town. can you see why this post of yours isn't protown?
That said if town want to lynch gonzo, you can all just no vote and i'll be the sole vote on gonzo, so any backfire on the lynch will hammer me. i seem a bit of a distraction to several town players anyway.
because he seems to want to be lynched, so taking him out at night is probably a good thing for town. can you see why this post of yours isn't protown?
That said if town want to lynch gonzo, you can all just no vote and i'll be the sole vote on gonzo, so any backfire on the lynch will hammer me. i seem a bit of a distraction to several town players anyway.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 08:24 PM
What do we expect of scum if we have a one shot day vig and a real vig?
i'd expect it to be very special heavy, since mz is claiming full vig instead of one shot, town gets double the killing power. more than that actually with nos in the mix. but jerome flipped vanilla so the scum that are left have either a lot of power or mz is a sk.
i don't see a vig as a very powerful town role, most of the time he made 4-5 town kills per one scum kill, at least on TR, which is on par with what you would expect from a random killer or even marginally worse.
it depends on who gets it, nos once went 4 for 4 scum kills with it, so for a full vig to be in a game can really unbalance things. it's why the one shot variant is so much more common.
i'd expect it to be very special heavy, since mz is claiming full vig instead of one shot, town gets double the killing power. more than that actually with nos in the mix. but jerome flipped vanilla so the scum that are left have either a lot of power or mz is a sk.
i don't see a vig as a very powerful town role, most of the time he made 4-5 town kills per one scum kill, at least on TR, which is on par with what you would expect from a random killer or even marginally worse.
it depends on who gets it, nos once went 4 for 4 scum kills with it, so for a full vig to be in a game can really unbalance things. it's why the one shot variant is so much more common.
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 08:24 PM
Fuck it... If your so sure of gonzo... Lynch him... What's the problem?
because he seems to want to be lynched, so taking him out at night is probably a good thing for town. can you see why this post of yours isn't protown?
That said if town want to lynch gonzo, you can all just no vote and i'll be the sole vote on gonzo, so any backfire on the lynch will hammer me. i seem a bit of a distraction to several town players anyway.
Except gonzo gets a vote.
And why do you think you are a distraction over anybody else with crappy reads on players?
because he seems to want to be lynched, so taking him out at night is probably a good thing for town. can you see why this post of yours isn't protown?
That said if town want to lynch gonzo, you can all just no vote and i'll be the sole vote on gonzo, so any backfire on the lynch will hammer me. i seem a bit of a distraction to several town players anyway.
Except gonzo gets a vote.
And why do you think you are a distraction over anybody else with crappy reads on players?
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 08:25 PM
I'm not calling the shots .. People are telling me to kill gonzo... Who's going to kill nostrum then... If she's lying she's got a ticket through to end game.
gonzo's claims have proven pretty wild and were contradicted by diva, he needs to go asap
i don't like how nostrum has played so far, gunning for some weird lynches, but her claim is pretty believable atm, not exactly a priority. prolly indy at worst and even so, under threat from scum as a semi-proven townie. we should still have a real seer in the game so i'm not worried about nostrum one bit.
gonzo's claims have proven pretty wild and were contradicted by diva, he needs to go asap
i don't like how nostrum has played so far, gunning for some weird lynches, but her claim is pretty believable atm, not exactly a priority. prolly indy at worst and even so, under threat from scum as a semi-proven townie. we should still have a real seer in the game so i'm not worried about nostrum one bit.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 08:27 PM
Fuck it... If your so sure of gonzo... Lynch him... What's the problem?
because he seems to want to be lynched, so taking him out at night is probably a good thing for town. can you see why this post of yours isn't protown?
That said if town want to lynch gonzo, you can all just no vote and i'll be the sole vote on gonzo, so any backfire on the lynch will hammer me. i seem a bit of a distraction to several town players anyway.
Except gonzo gets a vote.
And why do you think you are a distraction over anybody else with crappy reads on players?
good point, we'll need a second volunteer for the lynch. for the second part, several people are unsure/leaning scum on me so if voting gonzo does backfire, it'll add clarity to several peoples view of the game without a question mark next to my name.
because he seems to want to be lynched, so taking him out at night is probably a good thing for town. can you see why this post of yours isn't protown?
That said if town want to lynch gonzo, you can all just no vote and i'll be the sole vote on gonzo, so any backfire on the lynch will hammer me. i seem a bit of a distraction to several town players anyway.
Except gonzo gets a vote.
And why do you think you are a distraction over anybody else with crappy reads on players?
good point, we'll need a second volunteer for the lynch. for the second part, several people are unsure/leaning scum on me so if voting gonzo does backfire, it'll add clarity to several peoples view of the game without a question mark next to my name.
Magicziggy
19th January 2012, 08:27 PM
I've got to go. By all means make suggestions for the kill..
gonzo
gonzo
gib
19th January 2012, 08:28 PM
MZ as vig makes sense, i buy it
How so?
it explains why he felt better about me when i said the vig taking out bolero was a help, page 1 or 2 i think
How so?
it explains why he felt better about me when i said the vig taking out bolero was a help, page 1 or 2 i think
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 08:28 PM
what i am worried about though, is nightson not showing his face at all to defend himself.
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 08:29 PM
adenosine i see you down there... any thoughts?
gib
19th January 2012, 08:34 PM
has anyone seem a scum bomb before? how does it work - wiki has bomb as a town role
gib
19th January 2012, 08:35 PM
back in an hour
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 08:37 PM
i have seen a bomb traitor... would explain a lot
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 08:37 PM
what i am worried about though, is nightson not showing his face at all to defend himself.
agreed, but nightson really feels town to me, and lynching him to find out if gonzo is telling the truth seems weird.
agreed, but nightson really feels town to me, and lynching him to find out if gonzo is telling the truth seems weird.
Adenosine
19th January 2012, 08:41 PM
Catching up on six pages.
I don't know what to think about the Gonzo situation but I don't think we should lynch him. Not for two more days.
It is bloody strange having a day one-shot vig and a full night time vig.
In the absence of another claim I believe MZ. Also because I have agreed with his reads the most in this game.
eric00 is looking town to me.
diva, the reason I have not been engaged as usual is because I have been working and am out of the house for twelve hours a day. I can only play occasionally while I'm at work. I'm mostly in the lab. And will be all day today so I'll miss nightfall.
I would go an Athene lynch, her third vote, jumping on my bandwagon smelled.
Actually my whole bw smelled.
CGI is still making me uneasy.
I don't know what to think about the Gonzo situation but I don't think we should lynch him. Not for two more days.
It is bloody strange having a day one-shot vig and a full night time vig.
In the absence of another claim I believe MZ. Also because I have agreed with his reads the most in this game.
eric00 is looking town to me.
diva, the reason I have not been engaged as usual is because I have been working and am out of the house for twelve hours a day. I can only play occasionally while I'm at work. I'm mostly in the lab. And will be all day today so I'll miss nightfall.
I would go an Athene lynch, her third vote, jumping on my bandwagon smelled.
Actually my whole bw smelled.
CGI is still making me uneasy.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 08:41 PM
has anyone seem a scum bomb before? how does it work - wiki has bomb as a town role
i think it's called something besides a bomb, the one i've seen before took out the last person on the lynch bw, but i've heard of ones that take out the first person to vote as well. that's why i volunteered to be on a very low number gonzo bw.
gonzo
if everyone else wants to just no vote, mz and i will be enough to get this question answered. assuming we can get everyone else in here to clear the rest of the bw.
i think it's called something besides a bomb, the one i've seen before took out the last person on the lynch bw, but i've heard of ones that take out the first person to vote as well. that's why i volunteered to be on a very low number gonzo bw.
gonzo
if everyone else wants to just no vote, mz and i will be enough to get this question answered. assuming we can get everyone else in here to clear the rest of the bw.
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 08:41 PM
what i am worried about though, is nightson not showing his face at all to defend himself.
agreed, but nightson really feels town to me, and lynching him to find out if gonzo is telling the truth seems weird.
which is why i unvoted nightson as soon as diva showed gonzo to be a liar
just a concern to keep in mind for the future
MZ if it makes you feel better about killing gonzo tonight, look at his fake indignation with the GM and his role... feeld a lot like Daphne's hitting the treadmill. if he really were seer he would be here desperately trying to convince us he is not a liar. hiding is not very pro town.
agreed, but nightson really feels town to me, and lynching him to find out if gonzo is telling the truth seems weird.
which is why i unvoted nightson as soon as diva showed gonzo to be a liar
just a concern to keep in mind for the future
MZ if it makes you feel better about killing gonzo tonight, look at his fake indignation with the GM and his role... feeld a lot like Daphne's hitting the treadmill. if he really were seer he would be here desperately trying to convince us he is not a liar. hiding is not very pro town.
Adenosine
19th January 2012, 08:45 PM
MZ shouldn't be voting for Gonzo. Or do you mean that only you vote for him?
Either way I don't think he should be the lynch. He pulled a stupid stunt in a game at FF recently where he was erratic as hell, was the lead wagon, claimed VT, more people piled on, he then claimed Cop, people went uh-huh, he was lynched, he was the cop.
Gonzo does weird play. I'd like him to stay alive for another two days until he gets another "read". Then we can decide what to do with him.
Either way I don't think he should be the lynch. He pulled a stupid stunt in a game at FF recently where he was erratic as hell, was the lead wagon, claimed VT, more people piled on, he then claimed Cop, people went uh-huh, he was lynched, he was the cop.
Gonzo does weird play. I'd like him to stay alive for another two days until he gets another "read". Then we can decide what to do with him.
oblivion
19th January 2012, 08:51 PM
Current vote count. Hope I've got my spreadsheet straightened out now...
gonzo - 3
adenosine - 2
eric - 1
feck - 1
nightson - 1
diva - 1
gonzo - 3
adenosine - 2
eric - 1
feck - 1
nightson - 1
diva - 1
oblivion
19th January 2012, 08:53 PM
Nightfall is in a little over 4 hours from the time of this post.
Uselesstwit
19th January 2012, 08:53 PM
MZ shouldn't be voting for Gonzo. Or do you mean that only you vote for him?
Either way I don't think he should be the lynch. He pulled a stupid stunt in a game at FF recently where he was erratic as hell, was the lead wagon, claimed VT, more people piled on, he then claimed Cop, people went uh-huh, he was lynched, he was the cop.
Gonzo does weird play. I'd like him to stay alive for another two days until he gets another "read". Then we can decide what to do with him.
yep fine he does do weird stuff, no just explain how outing the other half of the seer team if he's telling the truth is protown and not absolutely lynch worthy.
Either way I don't think he should be the lynch. He pulled a stupid stunt in a game at FF recently where he was erratic as hell, was the lead wagon, claimed VT, more people piled on, he then claimed Cop, people went uh-huh, he was lynched, he was the cop.
Gonzo does weird play. I'd like him to stay alive for another two days until he gets another "read". Then we can decide what to do with him.
yep fine he does do weird stuff, no just explain how outing the other half of the seer team if he's telling the truth is protown and not absolutely lynch worthy.
Adenosine
19th January 2012, 08:57 PM
Yeah, that's where I fall down. But maybe he has misinterpreted his PM, maybe he didn't get a name but surmised it was diva because of something she said.
Maybe he should get back in here soon and explain it all.
Maybe he should get back in here soon and explain it all.
Cpt. Gender Injustice
19th January 2012, 08:59 PM
Gonzo does weird play. I'd like him to stay alive for another two days until he gets another "read". Then we can decide what to do with him.
whatever useful info he might have been able to give us went out the window the second he was contradicted by diva. nothing he says can be trusted anymore.
rule 1 of town play is never lie.
or if you're so bored that you have to lie, make it a lie that can't be caught.
whatever useful info he might have been able to give us went out the window the second he was contradicted by diva. nothing he says can be trusted anymore.
rule 1 of town play is never lie.
or if you're so bored that you have to lie, make it a lie that can't be caught.
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