MindRompersuit Mafia - Day 5 page 2

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 09:39 AM

and why do you think i needed to do this today?

the feck bw was going great before i claimed, i could have just hit the club and let town hang itself like it has for the past few days.

i mean, i don't even know why i'm talking to feck i don't need to convince him

MZ think about it, this is not what a sane team with solid teammates like borealis, diva orfatim would let me do, when we're one step away from the win.

do you really think that i am the don, i had the luck of being cleared by gib, then i went and wasted it all on a pointless fake claim?

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 09:40 AM

Guys, Feck is scum

How do you know?

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 09:41 AM

Yes perhaps they both are. Perfect.

Feck

24th January 2012, 09:42 AM

CGI

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 09:42 AM

Guys, Feck is scum

How do you know?

because she has a brain you idiot

or because she set this up so she looks great when we do lynch him

either way, just read my points above, they are not that hard to get

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 09:42 AM

Lynch one and kill the other no matter what I say.

Adenosine

24th January 2012, 09:43 AM

Yes perhaps they both are. Perfect.

:popcorn:

We have three hours to sort this mess out.

Shit game for a doc Feck.

nostrum

24th January 2012, 09:43 AM

CGI I've been trying to find the post, I'm suspecting you'll remember. Who was it that was banging on and on about how different your game is this game? I seem to recall it was borealis, but was it mantis or diva?

Mantisdreamz

24th January 2012, 09:44 AM

Guys, Feck is scum

How do you know?
Because of the reactions. I'm sure that Feck is just trying something. And I noticed your next post... if you think they are both scum, please just vote for Feck right now... he's full of shit.

nostrum

24th January 2012, 09:44 AM

MZ what day did you out? day 2?

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 09:44 AM

hey feck why did you wait to counter claim so long, risking that people would log off leaving votes on you?

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 09:44 AM

Yes.. Quite early

nostrum

24th January 2012, 09:44 AM

Guys, Feck is scum

How do you know?
Because of the reactions. I'm sure that Feck is just trying something. And I noticed your next post... if you think they are both scum, please just vote for Feck right now... he's full of shit.

reactionS plural... whose?

nostrum

24th January 2012, 09:45 AM

Yes.. Quite early


This is in response to my question of you outing on day 2? Well how come CGI protected gib on N2 and not you?

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 09:46 AM

Yes.. Quite early


This is in response to my question of you outing on day 2? Well how come CGI protected gib on N2 and not you?

Because he's lying.

And yes there was a xpost in between.

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 09:46 AM

Yes.. Quite early


This is in response to my question of you outing on day 2? Well how come CGI protected gib on N2 and not you?

it's the same thing i did last night

i knew scum would assume he is protected

nostrum

24th January 2012, 09:51 AM

Yes.. Quite early


This is in response to my question of you outing on day 2? Well how come CGI protected gib on N2 and not you?

it's the same thing i did last night

i knew scum would assume he is protected

Oh OK now THAT is bullshit. If scum truly was worried by MZ they'd have done a two-night campaign to kill him. Scum don't think 'oh we need him gone but shit he could be protected so let's not even try to kill him.'

The unescapable fact is that scum have NOT feared MZ. This is the first game where I've seen a vig just live on and on. The reason is, CGI was never at risk, was never on MZ's hit list. That other scum were, doesn't matter because it's all about the end game.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 09:51 AM

We need borealis and diva to have input

nostrum

24th January 2012, 09:51 AM

I can't recall feck fake claiming, ever. Can anyone else?

Mantisdreamz

24th January 2012, 09:52 AM

Guys, Feck is scum

How do you know?
Because of the reactions. I'm sure that Feck is just trying something. And I noticed your next post... if you think they are both scum, please just vote for Feck right now... he's full of shit.

reactionS plural... whose?
CGI's reaction mostly. Feck is trying something, guaranteed. Where is Feck now... he's not saying anything. He's not throwing a huge uproar, as if he was actually town.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 09:53 AM

I can't recall feck fake claiming, ever. Can anyone else?

Now you mention it, no

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 09:54 AM

I think they are both scum.. Feck has waited until everybody had a chance to counterclaim

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 09:54 AM

no we need to lynch feck

assuming even for a moment that he is the doc, he has played the worst possible kind of doc game, and he counterclaimed at the worst possible time.

it is clear he only tried this because he had his back to the wall

Mantisdreamz

24th January 2012, 09:54 AM

Feck plopped down a statement.. he has to give it it's last shot. He would have final voted CGI if he KNEW for sure that he was not the doctor.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 09:55 AM

no we need to lynch feck

assuming even for a moment that he is the doc, he has played the worst possible kind of doc game, and he counterclaimed at the worst possible time.

it is clear he only tried this because he had his back to the wall

Disagree.. The tide was turning your way

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 09:57 AM

Then if we lynch feck I'm killing cgi tonight.. No questions asked. Remove the possibility of that wifom. Cgi, you agree that's prudent don't you?

Mantisdreamz

24th January 2012, 10:01 AM

Then if we lynch feck I'm killing cgi tonight.. No questions asked. Remove the possibility of that wifom. Cgi, you agree that's prudent don't you?
If Feck turns up as scum, then you might want to reconsider.

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 10:01 AM

I think they are both scum.. Feck has waited until everybody had a chance to counterclaim

that is just ridiculous.

Adenosine

24th January 2012, 10:02 AM

no we need to lynch feck

assuming even for a moment that he is the doc, he has played the worst possible kind of doc game, and he counterclaimed at the worst possible time.

it is clear he only tried this because he had his back to the wall

Why would you even cater to that assumption? And having catered to it why would you use shit play as a reason to lynch him? Stinky post.

Mantisdreamz

24th January 2012, 10:04 AM

Keep in mind everyone, that Feck is not here to back anything up or have any retorts, after his post. If he was town, he would be.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 10:05 AM

Then if we lynch feck I'm killing cgi tonight.. No questions asked. Remove the possibility of that wifom. Cgi, you agree that's prudent don't you?
If Feck turns up as scum, then you might want to reconsider.

Got a better idea..?

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 10:05 AM

Then if we lynch feck I'm killing cgi tonight.. No questions asked. Remove the possibility of that wifom. Cgi, you agree that's prudent don't you?

if you think that's what you should do, just run the numbers and see if town can afford it.

but have you ever seen a game with no doc where scum miss a night kill to set a fake doc claim to set a fake counterclaim?

wouldn't it have been a lot easier to do all this without missing the kill?

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 10:07 AM

Unless the gm penalized scum for gameplay in the pg

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 10:07 AM

no we need to lynch feck

assuming even for a moment that he is the doc, he has played the worst possible kind of doc game, and he counterclaimed at the worst possible time.

it is clear he only tried this because he had his back to the wall

Why would you even cater to that assumption? And having catered to it why would you use shit play as a reason to lynch him? Stinky post.

well it's obvious some people believe him... i am just putting myself in their shoes to see what doesn't fit.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 10:10 AM

You know, cgi, you really thought the game was broken and wanted to throw in the towel.. How pro town was that? Not very. Did you vote against continuing? Did ob penalize you for muddying the waters in the pg?

Mantisdreamz

24th January 2012, 10:13 AM

Then if we lynch feck I'm killing cgi tonight.. No questions asked. Remove the possibility of that wifom. Cgi, you agree that's prudent don't you?
If Feck turns up as scum, then you might want to reconsider.

Got a better idea..?
No actually.

Honestly, if I was vig I would either skip the kill or I'd go for borealis... and be really uncertain about the outcome. I would want to wait and see if there may be another blocked nk due to protection before lynching CGI.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 10:14 AM

Leaving my vote

Cgi : I will kill tonight if not lynched
Feck: same

MZ
Diva
Nostrum
Aden
Borealis
Mantis

Town can win.
I don't think scum will have a nk.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 10:15 AM

If cgi is the doc, guess what.. He survives

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 10:15 AM

mz i give up, i stayed up past 3 am for the better part of a week, i am too tired to argue sense into you now. i have been advocating for the most reasonable common sense approach at all times. if you can't go back and see that, and would rather go off into paranoia, that's your business. kill me tonight and you lose the game for town, i don't care.

but right now listen to mantis and lynch feck. it is pretty clear which one of us is the least likely real doc.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 10:16 AM

Since feck hasn't declared his protections, I think it's prudent for us to lynch feck and for me to kill cgi.

All in favour..?

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 10:17 AM

You know, cgi, you really thought the game was broken and wanted to throw in the towel.. How pro town was that? Not very. Did you vote against continuing? Did ob penalize you for muddying the waters in the pg?

i voted against continuing the game. p sure i was the only one. i only stayed in because a lot of people put a lot of work in this game and i didn't want to ruin it. but you sure as hell make me very sorry for that decision every painful minute that i waste my breath on you.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 10:18 AM

vote feck

Mantisdreamz

24th January 2012, 10:18 AM

I don't think scum will have a nk.
Can't guarantee that.

And yes - I was definitely suspicious of CGI. But seeing Feck come out with his last shot statement.. and seeing the subsequent reactions from CGI. I think that Feck should be lynched over him.

I think you should switch your vote MZ. I'm pretty certain on this at least.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 10:18 AM

All is good. Cgi can protect himself

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 10:24 AM

All is good. Cgi can protect himself

and they will kill you instead. that leaves us guessing wrt/ the townie in the group of 4.

for a moment i was desperate to convince you that you should go ahead and kill borealis, or mantis or diva and i will protect you. but if you miss, tomorrow scum plus nostrum will have 3 votes out of 5.

this endgame is complicated, i need to give it some more thought.

you should too.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 10:24 AM

Back later.. Please lynch feck so that cgi can prove he's the doc over night. Remember he protected Aden last night so he's clear to protect himself.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 10:25 AM

Cgi, just to be clear .. If you're not lynched.. You need to protect yourself.. Town does not need this wifom at endgame. I'm sure you understand.

Adenosine

24th January 2012, 10:39 AM

Since feck hasn't declared his protections, I think it's prudent for us to lynch feck and for me to kill cgi.

All in favour..?

Just trying to follow your train of thought. You think that CGI is scum who made up the doc claim on the back of a no kill. Then the wheels started falling off so in comes Feck with a counterclaim to bolster CGI's initial claim. We lynch Feck for a dirty rotten liar and CGI sails into endgame. Which I have been assured is what it is all about.

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 10:42 AM

Cgi, just to be clear .. If you're not lynched.. You need to protect yourself.. Town does not need this wifom at endgame. I'm sure you understand.

if you really think it is worth to eliminate this wild scenario from the picture at the cost of a missed kill, that is on you. like i explained more than once already, 2 scum fake claiming doc in a no doc game, and missing a kill too, is so far out there it shouldn't even be considered.

you will obviously do what you want, my only problem in going along is, i don't know yet if we can afford to waste your nk on proving me. town taking this slim chance on me might be less risky than trying to eliminate one more uncertain player.

you must also remember the fact that raven told me we should consider the OP wrt/ nk order. if scum kill first, tomorrow morning you're dead, i'm alive, and my proving didn't even take place.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 10:43 AM

At least one of them is lying. Cgi can protect himself tonight. I don't need to wifom anything. Just do it.

divagreen

24th January 2012, 10:51 AM

jesus christ

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 10:51 AM

diva please vote for lying feck tia

divagreen

24th January 2012, 10:52 AM

If cgi is the doc, guess what.. He survives

This is true and he will be cleared.

divagreen

24th January 2012, 10:53 AM

diva please vote for lying feck tia

Stop panicking, just give me a minute to reread.

nostrum

24th January 2012, 10:57 AM

If cgi is the doc, guess what.. He survives

This is true and he will be cleared.

MZ I assumed a couple of hours ago that that is what you would do. I can't see why CGI is complaining about it.

You know why feck fake claimed for the first time in his mafia career? To save CGI, who is the only one on the scum team who has a hope to make it to end game. Of course feck is going to flip scum. And then.... we are supposed to think 'oh phew, so that means CGI really IS the doc'

MZ, go with your plan, it's a good one.

Mantis, you've been a little over vigorous this evening. :hmmm:

Personally I don't care which way we do this. We can lynch feck and you kill CGI, or we can lynch CGI and you kill feck. Either way, town is looking OK at this point.

divagreen

24th January 2012, 10:57 AM

Feck

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 10:58 AM

Of course feck is going to flip scum.

So why don't you vote for him?

Mantisdreamz

24th January 2012, 10:58 AM

you must also remember the fact that raven told me we should consider the OP wrt/ nk order. if scum kill first, tomorrow morning you're dead, i'm alive, and my proving didn't even take place.
I think that even if scum nk a vig, the vig kill still goes through (??)

nostrum

24th January 2012, 10:59 AM

You know why feck fake claimed for the first time in his mafia career? To save CGI, who is the only one on the scum team who has a hope to make it to end game. Of course feck is going to flip scum. And then.... we are supposed to think 'oh phew, so that means CGI really IS the doc'

just so no one misses this

nostrum

24th January 2012, 10:59 AM

Of course feck is going to flip scum.

So why don't you vote for him?

I'd prefer to lynch you. But I'll go along with the townies. Ergo, I'm not taking orders or pleas from you.

Mantisdreamz

24th January 2012, 11:00 AM

Mantis, you've been a little over vigorous this evening. :hmmm:

No just overtired, and generally cranky most of today.

nostrum

24th January 2012, 11:01 AM

you must also remember the fact that raven told me we should consider the OP wrt/ nk order. if scum kill first, tomorrow morning you're dead, i'm alive, and my proving didn't even take place.
I think that even if scum nk a vig, the vig kill still goes through (??)

Um, what? Raven told CGI what exactly, and when? :unsure:

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 11:01 AM

You know why feck fake claimed for the first time in his mafia career? To save CGI, who is the only one on the scum team who has a hope to make it to end game. Of course feck is going to flip scum. And then.... we are supposed to think 'oh phew, so that means CGI really IS the doc'

lol this game

nostrum

24th January 2012, 11:02 AM

Mantis, you've been a little over vigorous this evening. :hmmm:

No just overtired, and generally cranky most of today.

Can you see how they are both scum? Why else would feck do it? Scum desperately needs town to believe there in fact IS a doc in this game. CGI's survival depends on it. Feck only did his fake claim because I didn't buy CGI's fake claim.

Adenosine

24th January 2012, 11:03 AM

You know why feck fake claimed for the first time in his mafia career? To save CGI, who is the only one on the scum team who has a hope to make it to end game. Of course feck is going to flip scum. And then.... we are supposed to think 'oh phew, so that means CGI really IS the doc'

just so no one misses this

Yah, it's pretty obvious.

nostrum

24th January 2012, 11:03 AM

You know why feck fake claimed for the first time in his mafia career? To save CGI, who is the only one on the scum team who has a hope to make it to end game. Of course feck is going to flip scum. And then.... we are supposed to think 'oh phew, so that means CGI really IS the doc'

lol this game

Hey, if I'm wrong, at least I don't have the embarrassment that some others will have about not recognising a one-shot day vig when they see one :thumbsup:

nostrum

24th January 2012, 11:05 AM

CGI, what is giving you away completely now, is that you are anxious to continue your survival in this game. It's the ultimate scum tell. If we lynch feck you should be more than happy to have MZ kill you (oh but you're the doc, so he won't be able to, right?)

And then those dumb-ass scum can finally think 'oh hey, do you think maybe we should be NKing the vig at some point?'

Mantisdreamz

24th January 2012, 11:07 AM

you must also remember the fact that raven told me we should consider the OP wrt/ nk order. if scum kill first, tomorrow morning you're dead, i'm alive, and my proving didn't even take place.
I think that even if scum nk a vig, the vig kill still goes through (??)

Um, what? Raven told CGI what exactly, and when? :unsure:
In general. Doesn't a vigilante kill normally go through, even if they are targeted by scum?

nostrum

24th January 2012, 11:08 AM

MZ, ade, do we just go with the feck lynch tonight? I am shattered from chronic insomnia, so if we agree, then I'll put my vote down and try get some sleep.

feck

I will check in until one of ade/MZ confirms that this is town's plan, and then I'll get some sleep.

divagreen

24th January 2012, 11:09 AM

you must also remember the fact that raven told me we should consider the OP wrt/ nk order. if scum kill first, tomorrow morning you're dead, i'm alive, and my proving didn't even take place.
I think that even if scum nk a vig, the vig kill still goes through (??)

Um, what? Raven told CGI what exactly, and when? :unsure:

I don't want this to slip by. I have never known Raven to answer a question like that. And I truthfully I don't understand as a doc why you are asking in the first place.

nostrum

24th January 2012, 11:10 AM

you must also remember the fact that raven told me we should consider the OP wrt/ nk order. if scum kill first, tomorrow morning you're dead, i'm alive, and my proving didn't even take place.
I think that even if scum nk a vig, the vig kill still goes through (??)

Um, what? Raven told CGI what exactly, and when? :unsure:
In general. Doesn't a vigilante kill normally go through, even if they are targeted by scum?

Yes, that's my understanding. My 'um, what' post was actually to CGI, because I never noticed his post before I saw it quoted by you. Is he saying raven's given him some kind of info?

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 11:11 AM

CGI, what is giving you away completely now, is that you are anxious to continue your survival in this game. It's the ultimate scum tell.

If you lynch me today we lose dumbass.

If we lynch feck you should be more than happy to have MZ kill you (oh but you're the doc, so he won't be able to, right?)

I'm not saying he shouldn't do it, i'm saying it's retarded to consider the reason.

an you see how they are both scum? Why else would feck do it?

Precisely because town is so dumb it would believe 2 fake doc claims. Also it makes the disbelievers look good.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 11:11 AM

Consider it final. But I'll be watching for shenanigans.

Diva, nos, MZ, Aden , mantis are on fecks bw.

Anyone flinches from there should be tomorrows lynch.

Get some sleep.

nostrum

24th January 2012, 11:13 AM

Thanks MZ, g'nite. And good luck.

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 11:14 AM

I don't want this to slip by. I have never known Raven to answer a question like that.

I asked if mz kills first or scum kills first.

raven avoided a direct answer and deflected with a reference to the OP.

if you don't believe you should try to ask the same.

in fact, i encourage everyone to send her a PM and see what she says.

And I truthfully I don't understand as a doc why you are asking in the first place.

I would be asking because i am the only one who actually cares enough to think through the endgame and see how the math works out.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 11:15 AM

Remember town lost two last night through gm error. That has to be evened out. I don't think scum will get the nk.

Cgi.. We are not lynching you.. Just allowing you to prove your credentials which will only help town.

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 11:17 AM

Remember town lost two last night through gm error. That has to be evened out. I don't think scum will get the nk.

Cgi.. We are not lynching you.. Just allowing you to prove your credentials which will only help town.

it would help town more if you didn't believe the crazy 2 fake docs idiocy, but whatever.

Adenosine

24th January 2012, 11:18 AM

You know why feck fake claimed for the first time in his mafia career? To save CGI, who is the only one on the scum team who has a hope to make it to end game. Of course feck is going to flip scum. And then.... we are supposed to think 'oh phew, so that means CGI really IS the doc'

just so no one misses this

Yah, it's pretty obvious.

But is it too obvious?

MZ, ade, do we just go with the feck lynch tonight? I am shattered from chronic insomnia, so if we agree, then I'll put my vote down and try get some sleep.

feck

I will check in until one of ade/MZ confirms that this is town's plan, and then I'll get some sleep.

Yeah, I was willing to wait until Feck returned but I don't think he's going to.

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 11:27 AM

But is it too obvious?


:dunno:

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 11:28 AM

Let's see... if me and feck were both scum and a bw on feck started, how would we react... i know, let's both fake claim doc. ahahahahahaha

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 11:34 AM

Well I don't think feck is scum. I think he's the traitor.
I don't think cgi is scum. I think he's the doc.

but wifom has to be eliminated

tomorrow we will have

MZ- vig,
CGI - cleared,
nostrum ?,
mantis,
aden,
diva,
borealis,

dead: 1 scum + 1 traitor
likely remaining: 3 scum

I think town have the numbers to win this.

Given the number of town i've killed, this course of action is the most sensible way forward CGI. You have to agree with that.

Adenosine

24th January 2012, 11:35 AM

Let's see... if me and feck were both scum and a bw on feck started, how would we react... i know, let's both fake claim doc. ahahahahahaha

Context and timing is everything. I've already explained the timeline.

Anyway, you get your wish, Feck is the lynch today.

Adenosine

24th January 2012, 11:36 AM

Well I don't think feck is scum. I think he's the traitor.
I don't think cgi is scum. I think he's the doc.

but wifom has to be eliminated

tomorrow we will have

MZ- vig,
CGI - cleared,
nostrum ?,
mantis,
aden,
diva,
borealis,

dead: 1 scum + 1 traitor
likely remaining: 3 scum

I think town have the numbers to win this.

Given the number of town i've killed, this course of action is the most sensible way forward CGI. You have to agree with that.

You're betting a hell of a lot on scum not having a night kill tonight.

divagreen

24th January 2012, 11:36 AM

And I truthfully I don't understand as a doc why you are asking in the first place.I would be asking because i am the only one who actually cares enough to think through the endgame and see how the math works out.[/QUOTE]

yes, yes, yes the only one who cares about the game is you. No one else has spent hours asking questions actively scum hunting or contributing in any other way. I am dumb Diva, remember me? I am the one who wishes the game would just end too since I have been relegated to the uncleared must be scum pile cos one of my best cyber friends either didn't need a view to see if I was town or couldn't be bothered. No one listens to me, ever and I truly hope I die soon so I can be out of this game.

The only time that I obsess about endgame and math is when I am scum. Sorry I have not given it as much thought as you.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 11:37 AM

Well I don't think feck is scum. I think he's the traitor.
I don't think cgi is scum. I think he's the doc.

but wifom has to be eliminated

tomorrow we will have

MZ- vig,
CGI - cleared,
nostrum ?,
mantis,
aden,
diva,
borealis,

dead: 1 scum + 1 traitor
likely remaining: 3 scum

I think town have the numbers to win this.

Given the number of town i've killed, this course of action is the most sensible way forward CGI. You have to agree with that.

You're betting a hell of a lot on scum not having a night kill tonight.

so you agree that feck and cgi are not scum.. surely that's the bigger call

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 11:39 AM

jesus is anyone with half a brain left in the game except for mantis?

divagreen

24th January 2012, 11:42 AM

jesus is anyone with half a brain left in the game except for mantis?

you are acting like a fucking dramaqueen

Adenosine

24th January 2012, 11:48 AM

And I truthfully I don't understand as a doc why you are asking in the first place.I would be asking because i am the only one who actually cares enough to think through the endgame and see how the math works out.

yes, yes, yes the only one who cares about the game is you. No one else has spent hours asking questions actively scum hunting or contributing in any other way. I am dumb Diva, remember me? I am the one who wishes the game would just end too since I have been relegated to the uncleared must be scum pile cos one of my best cyber friends either didn't need a view to see if I was town or couldn't be bothered. No one listens to me, ever and I truly hope I die soon so I can be out of this game.

The only time that I obsess about endgame and math is when I am scum. Sorry I have not given it as much thought as you.[/QUOTE]

:hug: Do you happen to remember what your first couple of days impressions were?

Well I don't think feck is scum. I think he's the traitor.
I don't think cgi is scum. I think he's the doc.

but wifom has to be eliminated

tomorrow we will have

MZ- vig,
CGI - cleared,
nostrum ?,
mantis,
aden,
diva,
borealis,

dead: 1 scum + 1 traitor
likely remaining: 3 scum

I think town have the numbers to win this.

Given the number of town i've killed, this course of action is the most sensible way forward CGI. You have to agree with that.

You're betting a hell of a lot on scum not having a night kill tonight.

so you agree that feck and cgi are not scum.. surely that's the bigger call

No, I think that at least one of them is.

If you think Feck is the traitor tell me why he would throw himself into the lynch like that. Why would he 'save' CGI?

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 11:49 AM

jesus is anyone with half a brain left in the game except for mantis?

you are acting like a fucking dramaqueen

i'm just frustrated for obvious reasons

the retardation has surpassed TRtown levels manyfold

nobody is doing the math, nobody is trying to anticipate the endgame.

the facts are obvious, we could win rather easily, and the people that i bothered to stay in the game for are only paying attention to far fetched wifom.

has anyone at any point today even considered to mention occam's razor?

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 11:57 AM

traitors want to be lynched. Their vote counts against their win condition.

Feck isn't trying to save CGI, he's simply trying to get lynched. scum know this.

divagreen

24th January 2012, 12:01 PM

jesus is anyone with half a brain left in the game except for mantis?

you are acting like a fucking dramaqueen

i'm just frustrated for obvious reasons

the retardation has surpassed TRtown levels manyfold

nobody is doing the math, nobody is trying to anticipate the endgame.

the facts are obvious, we could win rather easily, and the people that i bothered to stay in the game for are only paying attention to far fetched wifom.

has anyone at any point today even considered to mention occam's razor?

Really? And while doing the math did you consider the possibility that MZ counts as an indie so scum may be closer to parity then what you have posted so far? Cos I have.

I have put a lot of effort into this game. You are not the only one who is frustrated.

And sorry, but I am really hoping that you are scum cos I have been thinking of all day what your sig and avatar will be but I am thinking that you are town. Pretty sure you are. Which is depressing cos the sig bet was the most entertaining thing about today.

But by all means continue to call me "dumb"...

divagreen

24th January 2012, 12:05 PM

Do you happen to remember what your first couple of days impressions were?

It doesn't matter, it now comes down to the numbers. CGI is right with that regard. You wade through the uncleared players and then try to hit the ones who look the most suspicious. I hate it when games come down to this, hate it but it really is the best strategy for town.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 12:09 PM

town have a seer a vig and a doc.

wouldn't it be balancing for scum to have a traitor and a day kill

thinking out loud

divagreen

24th January 2012, 12:13 PM

town have a seer a vig and a doc.

wouldn't it be balancing for scum to have a traitor and a day kill

thinking out loud

THat sounds right to me except I don't think that Nostrum is scum.

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 12:15 PM

traitors want to be lynched. Their vote counts against their win condition.

Feck isn't trying to save CGI, he's simply trying to get lynched. scum know this.

feck is scum. if he was traitor he would not play so silent risking scum would mistake him for a special.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 12:15 PM

nor do I ... but nagging doubt

I can't see scum anywhere.

I'm thinking of killing borealis tonight if feck flips doc or traitor.

thoughts?

Adenosine

24th January 2012, 12:15 PM

Do you happen to remember what your first couple of days impressions were?

It doesn't matter, it now comes down to the numbers. CGI is right with that regard. You wade through the uncleared players and then try to hit the ones who look the most suspicious. I hate it when games come down to this, hate it but it really is the best strategy for town.

It matters. It will help.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 12:16 PM

traitors want to be lynched. Their vote counts against their win condition.

Feck isn't trying to save CGI, he's simply trying to get lynched. scum know this.

feck is scum. if he was traitor he would not play so silent risking scum would mistake him for a special.

good point.. that will help the maths

Adenosine

24th January 2012, 12:17 PM

nor do I ... but nagging doubt

I can't see scum anywhere.

I'm thinking of killing borealis tonight if feck flips doc or traitor.

thoughts?

wtf? if Feck flips doc you kill cgi.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 12:18 PM

nor do I ... but nagging doubt

I can't see scum anywhere.

I'm thinking of killing borealis tonight if feck flips doc or traitor.

thoughts?

wtf? if Feck flips doc you kill cgi.

yep.. thought to typing error.. you know what I mean

divagreen

24th January 2012, 12:18 PM

nor do I ... but nagging doubt

I can't see scum anywhere.

I'm thinking of killing borealis tonight if feck flips doc or traitor.

thoughts?

wtf. If Feck flips doc then you should be killing CGI.

You have your list of uncleared players and at least 1 scum will be in that group.

divagreen

24th January 2012, 12:19 PM

lol, xpost with Aden.

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 12:19 PM

Really? And while doing the math did you consider the possibility that MZ counts as an indie so scum may be closer to parity then what you have posted so far? Cos I have.

scum must reach parity with non scum, indies count as town for parity.


I have put a lot of effort into this game. You are not the only one who is frustrated.

And sorry, but I am really hoping that you are scum cos I have been thinking of all day what your sig and avatar will be but I am thinking that you are town. Pretty sure you are. Which is depressing cos the sig bet was the most entertaining thing about today.

But by all means continue to call me "dumb"...

don't get so upset, you know damn well this game is about provoking reactions...

right when i thought your anger was genuine, people started accusing us of planning the whole sig bet deal, so i had to put the pressure back on to make sure nobody gets any more funny ideas.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 12:20 PM

actually .. if feck flips traitor I'm thinking of killing borealis

if feck flips doc .. he won't we know that much

if feck flips scum.. I think CGI needs to be cleared by me killing him
it was a very odd move for scum to counter claim

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 12:30 PM

when feck flips scum i should protect you and you should kill borealis or mantis.

scum will kill me or aden.

if you think i'm town i don't see who else you need me to be cleared for.

if aden dies there's nobody else you can trust, no point doing it for nostrum.

Adenosine

24th January 2012, 12:31 PM

nor do I ... but nagging doubt

I can't see scum anywhere.

I'm thinking of killing borealis tonight if feck flips doc or traitor.

thoughts?

wtf? if Feck flips doc you kill cgi.

yep.. thought to typing error.. you know what I mean

No I don't. I don't know how you would get that even slightly mixed up.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 12:34 PM

nor do I ... but nagging doubt

I can't see scum anywhere.

I'm thinking of killing borealis tonight if feck flips doc or traitor.

thoughts?

wtf? if Feck flips doc you kill cgi.

yep.. thought to typing error.. you know what I mean

No I don't. I don't know how you would get that even slightly mixed up.

well i did obviously

Adenosine

24th January 2012, 12:38 PM

nor do I ... but nagging doubt

I can't see scum anywhere.

I'm thinking of killing borealis tonight if feck flips doc or traitor.

thoughts?

wtf? if Feck flips doc you kill cgi.

yep.. thought to typing error.. you know what I mean

No I don't. I don't know how you would get that even slightly mixed up.

well i did obviously

Yes you did.

I think you need to target CGI tonight. If he survives he is who he claims to be. I'm expendable.

I'd like diva to answer who her early suspects were. Then maybe you can add her to your town trust pile. Until it becomes obvious that you can't any more, you should trust nostrum. I still like Mantis as town. This may change if Feck is town.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 12:40 PM

yes.. I agree.. plan A

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 12:40 PM

or was that plan X .. I lost count

goodnight ..

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 12:43 PM

MZ get back here

Adenosine

24th January 2012, 12:44 PM

15 minutes to go MZ...

divagreen

24th January 2012, 12:46 PM

nor do I ... but nagging doubt

I can't see scum anywhere.

I'm thinking of killing borealis tonight if feck flips doc or traitor.

thoughts?

wtf? if Feck flips doc you kill cgi.

yep.. thought to typing error.. you know what I mean

No I don't. I don't know how you would get that even slightly mixed up.

well i did obviously

Yes you did.

I think you need to target CGI tonight. If he survives he is who he claims to be. I'm expendable.

I'd like diva to answer who her early suspects were. Then maybe you can add her to your town trust pile. Until it becomes obvious that you can't any more, you should trust nostrum. I still like Mantis as town. This may change if Feck is town.

My d1 suspects were MZ, Jerome I think maybe CGI. I was suspecting I think UT on d2 but he was starting to look more townish as the day went on. d3 I get uber paranoid about you. I have gone back and forth about Mantis. I have had Nostrum solidly in my town pile cos I don't think that there would be a one shot scum day kill.

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 12:47 PM

diva let us know where you stand now.

Adenosine

24th January 2012, 12:47 PM

Thanks. You should trust diva MZ.

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 12:48 PM

and when feck flips scum, does that change anything

Adenosine

24th January 2012, 12:50 PM

Still doesn't look good for you CGI, but maybe Feck surmised that and was setting you up in advance.

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 12:50 PM

Thanks. You should trust diva MZ.

i trust diva too.

last scum are mantis and borealis.

i want to protect MZ tonight so he could kill borealis because there's no need for me to be super duper uber cleared

divagreen

24th January 2012, 12:53 PM

diva let us know where you stand now.

I think town needs to go through the uncleared players in this order...Borealis, me and then Mantis. No, if Feck flips scum it will not change anything. After that and if the game isn't over then CGI, Nostrum, Aden although if you hit 4 scum and the game is still going you are going to have to lynch MZ.

Adenosine

24th January 2012, 12:54 PM

Thanks. You should trust diva MZ.

i trust diva too.

last scum are mantis and borealis.

i want to protect MZ tonight so he could kill borealis because there's no need for me to be super duper uber cleared

Yes there is.

Also what about Mantis' impassioned defence of you and her insistence that we kill Feck?

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 12:56 PM

Also what about Mantis' impassioned defence of you and her insistence that we kill Feck?

most likely scum trying to get cred

at this point i believe diva to be more honest

Adenosine

24th January 2012, 01:01 PM

Time

Cpt. Gender Injustice

24th January 2012, 01:01 PM

fuck it, i'm going with this

MZ kill borealis or mantis

oblivion

24th January 2012, 01:25 PM

NIGHTFALL.

Just woke up...catching up on the tally now.

oblivion

24th January 2012, 01:33 PM

Feck was Scum.

Night actions, please.