Mortal Kombat Mafia page 2
Zigmen
30th January 2012, 06:19 PM
Spoiler:
"I had not considered that"
"I had not considered that"
gib
30th January 2012, 06:19 PM
Amok, it's very much on the forefront of my mind that I haven't played a game in over 2 months. This after playing 1 (or more) games most weeks for years. I needed a break, and I think the break did me some good. I'm not feeling nearly as testy about being FoSed as I was last fall.
I don't know how much recalibration I'll need yet. This game is where I'll begin to find out.
I don't try to filter my thoughts much, unless those thoughts are about special tells, so you're going to hear about my uncertainties until something else to worry about replaces them.
Onward.
Rereading, I really am torn regarding gib. I almost changed my vote this morning when I caught up with the overnight posts. What stops me is knowing his real life distractions (not that there's anything wrong with new babbies), and wondering if 2 months of not playing really has made me that much of an enigma. He usually can tell if he can trust me - when he's town.
when i'm town my default is to trust you, work with you and see if you make any slips. Guess it'll take me a while to get that back. Like i said before though, extra long day so chill.
I don't know how much recalibration I'll need yet. This game is where I'll begin to find out.
I don't try to filter my thoughts much, unless those thoughts are about special tells, so you're going to hear about my uncertainties until something else to worry about replaces them.
Onward.
Rereading, I really am torn regarding gib. I almost changed my vote this morning when I caught up with the overnight posts. What stops me is knowing his real life distractions (not that there's anything wrong with new babbies), and wondering if 2 months of not playing really has made me that much of an enigma. He usually can tell if he can trust me - when he's town.
when i'm town my default is to trust you, work with you and see if you make any slips. Guess it'll take me a while to get that back. Like i said before though, extra long day so chill.
Fuzzy
30th January 2012, 06:22 PM
you are a relatively easy lynch.
Ya think?
:rofl:
so why would a scum gib avoid messing with you?
http://treesflowersbirds.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/sheldon-cooper.jpg
Wtf is that supposed to mean?
Ya think?
:rofl:
so why would a scum gib avoid messing with you?
http://treesflowersbirds.files.wordpress.com/2010/11/sheldon-cooper.jpg
Wtf is that supposed to mean?
gib
30th January 2012, 06:25 PM
fuzzy don't be mean to zigmen he is very sensitive
Linus
30th January 2012, 06:25 PM
##vote zigmen##
because until i catch up i trust gib somewhat
and we got lucky on jerome last time, not counting on another miracle.
What's the point of voting before you catch up?
because until i catch up i trust gib somewhat
and we got lucky on jerome last time, not counting on another miracle.
What's the point of voting before you catch up?
Cpt. Gender Injustice
30th January 2012, 06:26 PM
generating some reactions in the mean time
Fuzzy
30th January 2012, 06:28 PM
fuzzy don't be mean to zigmen he is very sensitive
I'm not being mean. I just don't get what he's implying by posting a screencap from a shitty sit-com I don't watch.
I'm not being mean. I just don't get what he's implying by posting a screencap from a shitty sit-com I don't watch.
oblivion
30th January 2012, 06:31 PM
see his spoiler comment. I think that explains what the image means.
Amok
30th January 2012, 06:38 PM
Oblivion asked Gib: Zigmen's post still the scummiest thing you've seen so far?
Gib replied: i have a good reason.
I would like to hear that good reason.
pressure, what do you make of his wah gib doesn't like me post?
I see his "gib doesn't like me" post as a Townish-leaning reaction to pressure.
Gib replied: i have a good reason.
I would like to hear that good reason.
pressure, what do you make of his wah gib doesn't like me post?
I see his "gib doesn't like me" post as a Townish-leaning reaction to pressure.
gib
30th January 2012, 06:42 PM
Oblivion asked Gib: Zigmen's post still the scummiest thing you've seen so far?
Gib replied: i have a good reason.
I would like to hear that good reason.
pressure, what do you make of his wah gib doesn't like me post?
I see his "gib doesn't like me" post as a Townish-leaning reaction to pressure.
ob was this your take too?
Gib replied: i have a good reason.
I would like to hear that good reason.
pressure, what do you make of his wah gib doesn't like me post?
I see his "gib doesn't like me" post as a Townish-leaning reaction to pressure.
ob was this your take too?
oblivion
30th January 2012, 06:56 PM
Oblivion asked Gib: Zigmen's post still the scummiest thing you've seen so far?
Gib replied: i have a good reason.
I would like to hear that good reason.
pressure, what do you make of his wah gib doesn't like me post?
I see his "gib doesn't like me" post as a Townish-leaning reaction to pressure.
ob was this your take too?
Not sure. I have him in my unsure pile atm.
To me, he usually looks more self-assured when he's scum, which is what's causing me to lean a little in the town direction. It's a gestalt, not a particular post.
Gib replied: i have a good reason.
I would like to hear that good reason.
pressure, what do you make of his wah gib doesn't like me post?
I see his "gib doesn't like me" post as a Townish-leaning reaction to pressure.
ob was this your take too?
Not sure. I have him in my unsure pile atm.
To me, he usually looks more self-assured when he's scum, which is what's causing me to lean a little in the town direction. It's a gestalt, not a particular post.
oblivion
30th January 2012, 06:58 PM
Hey athene...I thought we had your undivided now...? What are your thoughts?
Facetious
30th January 2012, 07:03 PM
Oblivion asked Gib: Zigmen's post still the scummiest thing you've seen so far?
Gib replied: i have a good reason.
I would like to hear that good reason.
I would also like to hear this good reason.
Gib replied: i have a good reason.
I would like to hear that good reason.
I would also like to hear this good reason.
Zigmen
30th January 2012, 07:18 PM
I'm off to work. I'll try to catch up a bit on breaks but probably won't have time to post.
oblivion
30th January 2012, 07:21 PM
Hey gib, curious how a one voe lead looks so insurmountable.
votes are spread really thin and tbh no one is standing out too much so i think it'll be jerome, didn't say it was insurmountable but right now i'm not seeing much enthusiasm for lynching anyone else
who do you think we should be lynching?
votes are spread really thin and tbh no one is standing out too much so i think it'll be jerome, didn't say it was insurmountable but right now i'm not seeing much enthusiasm for lynching anyone else
who do you think we should be lynching?
gib
30th January 2012, 07:22 PM
zigmen what as the game here i called you an idiot, this is bugging me now
gib
30th January 2012, 07:23 PM
Hey gib, curious how a one voe lead looks so insurmountable.
votes are spread really thin and tbh no one is standing out too much so i think it'll be jerome, didn't say it was insurmountable but right now i'm not seeing much enthusiasm for lynching anyone else
who do you think we should be lynching?
no idea atm, lemme finish this zigmen thing first
votes are spread really thin and tbh no one is standing out too much so i think it'll be jerome, didn't say it was insurmountable but right now i'm not seeing much enthusiasm for lynching anyone else
who do you think we should be lynching?
no idea atm, lemme finish this zigmen thing first
Facetious
30th January 2012, 07:50 PM
Oblivion asked Gib: Zigmen's post still the scummiest thing you've seen so far?
Gib replied: i have a good reason.
I would like to hear that good reason.
I would also like to hear this good reason.
ah, missed your answer to amok.
Gib replied: i have a good reason.
I would like to hear that good reason.
I would also like to hear this good reason.
ah, missed your answer to amok.
Facetious
30th January 2012, 07:50 PM
ok, gib, you put a pressure vote on zigmen, what have you learned from his reaction to you?
Facetious
30th January 2012, 07:58 PM
i'm all yours
Your thoughts on gib would nice. IIRC, you claim to be good at reading him.
he's said a couple of things I agree with. His play is a bit toned down compared to normal but he's not particularly worrying me at this point.
Your thoughts on gib would nice. IIRC, you claim to be good at reading him.
he's said a couple of things I agree with. His play is a bit toned down compared to normal but he's not particularly worrying me at this point.
gib
30th January 2012, 08:43 PM
ah, missed your answer to amok.
I accept your apology!
I accept your apology!
gib
30th January 2012, 08:45 PM
ok, gib, you put a pressure vote on zigmen, what have you learned from his reaction to you?
A lot of it hinges on whether i believe he is genuinely hurt when he says i don't like him. Could well be butthurt from something i said on TR but afaik i've only said nice thinbgs about dean as a GM so i'm a little puzzled there. What do you think?
A lot of it hinges on whether i believe he is genuinely hurt when he says i don't like him. Could well be butthurt from something i said on TR but afaik i've only said nice thinbgs about dean as a GM so i'm a little puzzled there. What do you think?
gib
30th January 2012, 08:46 PM
i'm all yours
Your thoughts on gib would nice. IIRC, you claim to be good at reading him.
he's said a couple of things I agree with. His play is a bit toned down compared to normal but he's not particularly worrying me at this point.
what have i said that you agree with?
Your thoughts on gib would nice. IIRC, you claim to be good at reading him.
he's said a couple of things I agree with. His play is a bit toned down compared to normal but he's not particularly worrying me at this point.
what have i said that you agree with?
oblivion
30th January 2012, 08:48 PM
Athene, do you have thoughts on any other players?
nostrum
30th January 2012, 08:52 PM
gonzo I think you had bolero's votes in the wrong place
MAYOR
2 ob (1zigmen, 9jerome)
1 nightson (2cgi)
1 bolero (3linus)
2 aden (4nostrum, 7MZ)
0 gib (5bolero, 6bolero, )
1 nostrum (8bolero)
LYNCH
1 nostrum (1cgi, 7cgi, 13nightson)
0 nightson (2ff, 4ff, )
0 fuzzy (3nightson, 5bolero, 8bolero, 13nightson, )
2 zigmen (6gib, 17CGI)
0 aden (7cgi, 17CGI, )
0 gib (9jerome, 14jerome, )
3 jerome (10ob, 15bolero, 17MZ)
1 daphne (11linus)
1 bolero (12aden)
1 MZ (14jerome)
1 athene (16zigmen)
MAYOR
2 ob (1zigmen, 9jerome)
1 nightson (2cgi)
1 bolero (3linus)
2 aden (4nostrum, 7MZ)
0 gib (5bolero, 6bolero, )
1 nostrum (8bolero)
LYNCH
1 nostrum (1cgi, 7cgi, 13nightson)
0 nightson (2ff, 4ff, )
0 fuzzy (3nightson, 5bolero, 8bolero, 13nightson, )
2 zigmen (6gib, 17CGI)
0 aden (7cgi, 17CGI, )
0 gib (9jerome, 14jerome, )
3 jerome (10ob, 15bolero, 17MZ)
1 daphne (11linus)
1 bolero (12aden)
1 MZ (14jerome)
1 athene (16zigmen)
nostrum
30th January 2012, 08:54 PM
ob, thoughts on daphne's opus?
nostrum
30th January 2012, 08:54 PM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
Facetious
30th January 2012, 08:54 PM
Athene, do you have thoughts on any other players?
Yes, in no particular order I have bolero amok, ob, nostrum and adenosine in my townish pile.
Unsure leaning townish, gib and mz
just unsure, fuzzy, daphne, linus and zigmen
scummish - jerome, nightson, cgi
Yes, in no particular order I have bolero amok, ob, nostrum and adenosine in my townish pile.
Unsure leaning townish, gib and mz
just unsure, fuzzy, daphne, linus and zigmen
scummish - jerome, nightson, cgi
nostrum
30th January 2012, 08:56 PM
right this moment I'm thinking daphne would make a good lynch but I want inputs pls
Facetious
30th January 2012, 09:01 PM
i'm all yours
Your thoughts on gib would nice. IIRC, you claim to be good at reading him.
he's said a couple of things I agree with. His play is a bit toned down compared to normal but he's not particularly worrying me at this point.
what have i said that you agree with?
I thought you made a reasonable point about wanting to see ob being pivotal in lynching someone better then jerome. I thought there was something else but I can't seem to find it .....
Your thoughts on gib would nice. IIRC, you claim to be good at reading him.
he's said a couple of things I agree with. His play is a bit toned down compared to normal but he's not particularly worrying me at this point.
what have i said that you agree with?
I thought you made a reasonable point about wanting to see ob being pivotal in lynching someone better then jerome. I thought there was something else but I can't seem to find it .....
oblivion
30th January 2012, 09:01 PM
ob, thoughts on daphne's opus?
Haven't played a game where she's scum, so I don't have much personal meta on Daphne.
I thought the observations about bolero were correct as far as they go, but overall, my read of bolero is mixed, and I'm not leaning strongly scum atm. May be putting too much weight on the fact that Bolero appeared to independently reach the same conclusion about Jerome in the same timeframe.
Nightson, on the other hand, pings a bit IMO.
Her other observations are kinda meh.
What is it that you see that makes her a good day 1 lynch?
Haven't played a game where she's scum, so I don't have much personal meta on Daphne.
I thought the observations about bolero were correct as far as they go, but overall, my read of bolero is mixed, and I'm not leaning strongly scum atm. May be putting too much weight on the fact that Bolero appeared to independently reach the same conclusion about Jerome in the same timeframe.
Nightson, on the other hand, pings a bit IMO.
Her other observations are kinda meh.
What is it that you see that makes her a good day 1 lynch?
Facetious
30th January 2012, 09:04 PM
right this moment I'm thinking daphne would make a good lynch but I want inputs pls
she's in my unsure pile, state your case
she's in my unsure pile, state your case
Facetious
30th January 2012, 09:05 PM
ok, gib, you put a pressure vote on zigmen, what have you learned from his reaction to you?
A lot of it hinges on whether i believe he is genuinely hurt when he says i don't like him. Could well be butthurt from something i said on TR but afaik i've only said nice thinbgs about dean as a GM so i'm a little puzzled there. What do you think?
Are you asking me whether I think dean is butthurt over something you said on TR?
A lot of it hinges on whether i believe he is genuinely hurt when he says i don't like him. Could well be butthurt from something i said on TR but afaik i've only said nice thinbgs about dean as a GM so i'm a little puzzled there. What do you think?
Are you asking me whether I think dean is butthurt over something you said on TR?
Fuzzy
30th January 2012, 09:17 PM
right this moment I'm thinking daphne would make a good lynch but I want inputs pls
What do you see in daphne?
What do you see in daphne?
Adenosine
30th January 2012, 09:17 PM
right this moment I'm thinking daphne would make a good lynch but I want inputs pls
Why?
My reaction was the opposite. It looked like a good recap of what has happened so far.
I'm not liking this Zigmen wagon, mainly because I'm leaning town on him.
And I'm not liking a Jerome lynch at the moment.
And I'm not liking Nightson atm. He needs to come back and explain his vote and run.
bolero
Nightson
Why?
My reaction was the opposite. It looked like a good recap of what has happened so far.
I'm not liking this Zigmen wagon, mainly because I'm leaning town on him.
And I'm not liking a Jerome lynch at the moment.
And I'm not liking Nightson atm. He needs to come back and explain his vote and run.
bolero
Nightson
Linus
30th January 2012, 09:18 PM
i'm all yours
Your thoughts on gib would nice. IIRC, you claim to be good at reading him.
he's said a couple of things I agree with. His play is a bit toned down compared to normal but he's not particularly worrying me at this point.
what have i said that you agree with?
I thought you made a reasonable point about wanting to see ob being pivotal in lynching someone better then jerome. I thought there was something else but I can't seem to find it .....
I never thought of oblivion as someone adverse to bussing as scum, so I'm a bit puzzled by this criterion for evaluating her.
Your thoughts on gib would nice. IIRC, you claim to be good at reading him.
he's said a couple of things I agree with. His play is a bit toned down compared to normal but he's not particularly worrying me at this point.
what have i said that you agree with?
I thought you made a reasonable point about wanting to see ob being pivotal in lynching someone better then jerome. I thought there was something else but I can't seem to find it .....
I never thought of oblivion as someone adverse to bussing as scum, so I'm a bit puzzled by this criterion for evaluating her.
Daphne Girl
30th January 2012, 09:24 PM
right this moment I'm thinking daphne would make a good lynch but I want inputs pls
What makes you want to lynch me? I am just curious. I posted my thoughts, was there something you didn't like there?
What makes you want to lynch me? I am just curious. I posted my thoughts, was there something you didn't like there?
oblivion
30th January 2012, 09:27 PM
I don't like the way Jerome being out front seems to be affecting the game.
And I like Aden's vote on Nightson.
And I like Aden's vote on Nightson.
Linus
30th January 2012, 09:29 PM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
Daphne Girl
30th January 2012, 09:30 PM
Ob-I like his vote on Nightson too. I was hoping he would have responded and let us know his reasoning for his vote drop and run. I could go for a Nightson lynch. What do you think about Bolero? Did you think my thoughts on her were warranted? Also, Jerome and CGI?
Daphne Girl
30th January 2012, 09:32 PM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
Have we ever played a game together? I don't think so.
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
Have we ever played a game together? I don't think so.
Facetious
30th January 2012, 09:33 PM
i'm all yours
Your thoughts on gib would nice. IIRC, you claim to be good at reading him.
he's said a couple of things I agree with. His play is a bit toned down compared to normal but he's not particularly worrying me at this point.
what have i said that you agree with?
I thought you made a reasonable point about wanting to see ob being pivotal in lynching someone better then jerome. I thought there was something else but I can't seem to find it .....
I never thought of oblivion as someone adverse to bussing as scum, so I'm a bit puzzled by this criterion for evaluating her.
hmm, and I don't mean that in an oblivion kind of way, but in a - you've given me pause for thought kind of way.
Your thoughts on gib would nice. IIRC, you claim to be good at reading him.
he's said a couple of things I agree with. His play is a bit toned down compared to normal but he's not particularly worrying me at this point.
what have i said that you agree with?
I thought you made a reasonable point about wanting to see ob being pivotal in lynching someone better then jerome. I thought there was something else but I can't seem to find it .....
I never thought of oblivion as someone adverse to bussing as scum, so I'm a bit puzzled by this criterion for evaluating her.
hmm, and I don't mean that in an oblivion kind of way, but in a - you've given me pause for thought kind of way.
oblivion
30th January 2012, 09:37 PM
Daphne, I already commented on your bolero stuff. You're not incorrect in your observations, but I don't agree with your conclusions. Don't strongly disagree either. She's in my unsure pile atm.
Jerome pinged hugely to me at the time of his vote on gib. However, his posts since then have had a more townish feel about them. In fact, with the later posts, his gambit reminds me of something he did in the last FF game I played (one of those 4 month games) where he was town.
CGI I don't have a good read of. I thought it was a dick move posting TR gameplay in this thread, but that doesn't mean he isn't town.
Jerome pinged hugely to me at the time of his vote on gib. However, his posts since then have had a more townish feel about them. In fact, with the later posts, his gambit reminds me of something he did in the last FF game I played (one of those 4 month games) where he was town.
CGI I don't have a good read of. I thought it was a dick move posting TR gameplay in this thread, but that doesn't mean he isn't town.
Linus
30th January 2012, 09:38 PM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
Have we ever played a game together? I don't think so.
We have played on TR at least two times, I think.
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
Have we ever played a game together? I don't think so.
We have played on TR at least two times, I think.
oblivion
30th January 2012, 09:40 PM
huh. my unvote didn't take place.
jerome
jerome
gib
30th January 2012, 09:46 PM
ok, gib, you put a pressure vote on zigmen, what have you learned from his reaction to you?
A lot of it hinges on whether i believe he is genuinely hurt when he says i don't like him. Could well be butthurt from something i said on TR but afaik i've only said nice thinbgs about dean as a GM so i'm a little puzzled there. What do you think?
Are you asking me whether I think dean is butthurt over something you said on TR?
asking if you think his hurt looks genuine, have you seen him like that before etc
A lot of it hinges on whether i believe he is genuinely hurt when he says i don't like him. Could well be butthurt from something i said on TR but afaik i've only said nice thinbgs about dean as a GM so i'm a little puzzled there. What do you think?
Are you asking me whether I think dean is butthurt over something you said on TR?
asking if you think his hurt looks genuine, have you seen him like that before etc
Facetious
30th January 2012, 09:46 PM
mz what's your read on me?
Missed this.. Sorry gib
Unsure leaning unsure.. Too early to tell.. Kind of making allowances in my mind for the newborn and backward facing cap.
Seriously.. Nothing either way.. Although you could easily talk me into looking at oblivion again. I think I've given her a town tick for looking town rather than being town.
i really don't know about ob but i do think she'd be a bad choice for today's lynch. I have a feeling jerome will be the lynch, and that he'll flip scum, and so we'll go into day 2 not really knowing much seeing as scum don't mind losing jerome who is something of a liability
basically i'd need ob to be pivotal in lynching someone better than jerome before i felt ok about her
actually, I don't agree with this - I think it's crap.
Missed this.. Sorry gib
Unsure leaning unsure.. Too early to tell.. Kind of making allowances in my mind for the newborn and backward facing cap.
Seriously.. Nothing either way.. Although you could easily talk me into looking at oblivion again. I think I've given her a town tick for looking town rather than being town.
i really don't know about ob but i do think she'd be a bad choice for today's lynch. I have a feeling jerome will be the lynch, and that he'll flip scum, and so we'll go into day 2 not really knowing much seeing as scum don't mind losing jerome who is something of a liability
basically i'd need ob to be pivotal in lynching someone better than jerome before i felt ok about her
actually, I don't agree with this - I think it's crap.
Bolero
30th January 2012, 09:47 PM
Just tapping in briefly...
I'm surprised at your fosing of Daphne, nostrum. I really thought her post looked townish.
I appreciated amok's observations about oblivion, but I'm leaning town on oblivion for the same reason she's leaning town on me.
Daphne, I am almost always all over the place with my suspicions and voting on day 1. Who isn't? I don't want to trolley track.
Finally, I don't wish to confuse things, but it occurred to me that the enmity between gib and Zigmen could be staged. Otherwise, zigmen's "gib doesn't like me" is weird.
I'm surprised at your fosing of Daphne, nostrum. I really thought her post looked townish.
I appreciated amok's observations about oblivion, but I'm leaning town on oblivion for the same reason she's leaning town on me.
Daphne, I am almost always all over the place with my suspicions and voting on day 1. Who isn't? I don't want to trolley track.
Finally, I don't wish to confuse things, but it occurred to me that the enmity between gib and Zigmen could be staged. Otherwise, zigmen's "gib doesn't like me" is weird.
Facetious
30th January 2012, 09:50 PM
ok, gib, you put a pressure vote on zigmen, what have you learned from his reaction to you?
A lot of it hinges on whether i believe he is genuinely hurt when he says i don't like him. Could well be butthurt from something i said on TR but afaik i've only said nice thinbgs about dean as a GM so i'm a little puzzled there. What do you think?
Are you asking me whether I think dean is butthurt over something you said on TR?
asking if you think his hurt looks genuine, have you seen him like that before etc
yes, he once thought I had a vendetta against him.
A lot of it hinges on whether i believe he is genuinely hurt when he says i don't like him. Could well be butthurt from something i said on TR but afaik i've only said nice thinbgs about dean as a GM so i'm a little puzzled there. What do you think?
Are you asking me whether I think dean is butthurt over something you said on TR?
asking if you think his hurt looks genuine, have you seen him like that before etc
yes, he once thought I had a vendetta against him.
Nightson
30th January 2012, 09:50 PM
post # 103- Nightson rolls in after only posting a few "fluff" posts at the beginning and votes Nostrum.I find that weird for Nightson to drop a vote for no reason. I don't like this. leaning scum
You find it weird for me to drop a vote and not give reasoning? Why do you find that weird?
You find it weird for me to drop a vote and not give reasoning? Why do you find that weird?
Nightson
30th January 2012, 09:57 PM
Daphne, I already commented on your bolero stuff. You're not incorrect in your observations, but I don't agree with your conclusions. Don't strongly disagree either. She's in my unsure pile atm.
I appreciated amok's observations about oblivion, but I'm leaning town on oblivion for the same reason she's leaning town on me.
I'm going to try this out obv
hmm
I appreciated amok's observations about oblivion, but I'm leaning town on oblivion for the same reason she's leaning town on me.
I'm going to try this out obv
hmm
Daphne Girl
30th January 2012, 09:57 PM
post # 103- Nightson rolls in after only posting a few "fluff" posts at the beginning and votes Nostrum.I find that weird for Nightson to drop a vote for no reason. I don't like this. leaning scum
You find it weird for me to drop a vote and not give reasoning? Why do you find that weird?
I feel like when I have played with you, you normally give a reason for your voting. Other than at the very beginning when a lot of people put down votes to get the game started. It seemed to me that you were on early, then off, then came back in and voted with no reason and right now is the first time you are back. It didn't seem like the town Nightson I know. I remember you being much more engaged. Maybe I am wrong. What was the reason for your vote?
You find it weird for me to drop a vote and not give reasoning? Why do you find that weird?
I feel like when I have played with you, you normally give a reason for your voting. Other than at the very beginning when a lot of people put down votes to get the game started. It seemed to me that you were on early, then off, then came back in and voted with no reason and right now is the first time you are back. It didn't seem like the town Nightson I know. I remember you being much more engaged. Maybe I am wrong. What was the reason for your vote?
Daphne Girl
30th January 2012, 10:01 PM
I am headed out for the next few hours. Mommy duty calls. I will check back in when I get home.
Nightson
30th January 2012, 10:09 PM
post # 103- Nightson rolls in after only posting a few "fluff" posts at the beginning and votes Nostrum.I find that weird for Nightson to drop a vote for no reason. I don't like this. leaning scum
You find it weird for me to drop a vote and not give reasoning? Why do you find that weird?
I feel like when I have played with you, you normally give a reason for your voting. Other than at the very beginning when a lot of people put down votes to get the game started. It seemed to me that you were on early, then off, then came back in and voted with no reason and right now is the first time you are back. It didn't seem like the town Nightson I know. I remember you being much more engaged. Maybe I am wrong. What was the reason for your vote?
Nostrum reacted rather defensively to CGI's policy vote on her, I wanted to see what her reaction to a second vote would be.
I can't remember the last time I posted reasoning for a vote beyond "I think they're scum."
You find it weird for me to drop a vote and not give reasoning? Why do you find that weird?
I feel like when I have played with you, you normally give a reason for your voting. Other than at the very beginning when a lot of people put down votes to get the game started. It seemed to me that you were on early, then off, then came back in and voted with no reason and right now is the first time you are back. It didn't seem like the town Nightson I know. I remember you being much more engaged. Maybe I am wrong. What was the reason for your vote?
Nostrum reacted rather defensively to CGI's policy vote on her, I wanted to see what her reaction to a second vote would be.
I can't remember the last time I posted reasoning for a vote beyond "I think they're scum."
nostrum
30th January 2012, 10:22 PM
right this moment I'm thinking daphne would make a good lynch but I want inputs pls
Why?
My reaction was the opposite. It looked like a good recap of what has happened so far.
I'm not liking this Zigmen wagon, mainly because I'm leaning town on him.
And I'm not liking a Jerome lynch at the moment.
And I'm not liking Nightson atm. He needs to come back and explain his vote and run.
bolero
Nightson
It's because it was mainly a recap. Plus, no read on me or ob, when we've done a fair bit of posting of questions/thoughts. Plus, a pile of scummish people when recently she's been scratching her head to find anyone scummy.
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
Yes, that is it in a nutshell.
I'm getting mixed signals from you BTW.
Just tapping in briefly...
I'm surprised at your fosing of Daphne, nostrum. I really thought her post looked townish.
I appreciated amok's observations about oblivion, but I'm leaning town on oblivion for the same reason she's leaning town on me.
Daphne, I am almost always all over the place with my suspicions and voting on day 1. Who isn't? I don't want to trolley track.
Finally, I don't wish to confuse things, but it occurred to me that the enmity between gib and Zigmen could be staged. Otherwise, zigmen's "gib doesn't like me" is weird.
I don't find zigmen's reaction to gib weird at all. It might not be correct that gib doesn't like him, but if it were the case it would fit (for what zigmen sees.)
Zigmen gets a pretty hard time in games. I'm leaning genuine reaction on it at the mome.
post # 103- Nightson rolls in after only posting a few "fluff" posts at the beginning and votes Nostrum.I find that weird for Nightson to drop a vote for no reason. I don't like this. leaning scum
You find it weird for me to drop a vote and not give reasoning? Why do you find that weird?
Seriously?
post # 103- Nightson rolls in after only posting a few "fluff" posts at the beginning and votes Nostrum.I find that weird for Nightson to drop a vote for no reason. I don't like this. leaning scum
You find it weird for me to drop a vote and not give reasoning? Why do you find that weird?
I feel like when I have played with you, you normally give a reason for your voting. Other than at the very beginning when a lot of people put down votes to get the game started. It seemed to me that you were on early, then off, then came back in and voted with no reason and right now is the first time you are back. It didn't seem like the town Nightson I know. I remember you being much more engaged. Maybe I am wrong. What was the reason for your vote?
Nostrum reacted rather defensively to CGI's policy vote on her, I wanted to see what her reaction to a second vote would be.
I can't remember the last time I posted reasoning for a vote beyond "I think they're scum."
Hmm. That is kind of what I was expecting you to say, although it's crap I reacted defensively to CGI's vote. I was expecting it, I joked about it even. You've not reassured me at all... because.... you have contradicted yourself IMO about why you put the vote down. You are hedging between 'it was a pressure vote to see a reaction' and 'I thought her reaction to CGI was scummy'
Why?
My reaction was the opposite. It looked like a good recap of what has happened so far.
I'm not liking this Zigmen wagon, mainly because I'm leaning town on him.
And I'm not liking a Jerome lynch at the moment.
And I'm not liking Nightson atm. He needs to come back and explain his vote and run.
bolero
Nightson
It's because it was mainly a recap. Plus, no read on me or ob, when we've done a fair bit of posting of questions/thoughts. Plus, a pile of scummish people when recently she's been scratching her head to find anyone scummy.
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
Yes, that is it in a nutshell.
I'm getting mixed signals from you BTW.
Just tapping in briefly...
I'm surprised at your fosing of Daphne, nostrum. I really thought her post looked townish.
I appreciated amok's observations about oblivion, but I'm leaning town on oblivion for the same reason she's leaning town on me.
Daphne, I am almost always all over the place with my suspicions and voting on day 1. Who isn't? I don't want to trolley track.
Finally, I don't wish to confuse things, but it occurred to me that the enmity between gib and Zigmen could be staged. Otherwise, zigmen's "gib doesn't like me" is weird.
I don't find zigmen's reaction to gib weird at all. It might not be correct that gib doesn't like him, but if it were the case it would fit (for what zigmen sees.)
Zigmen gets a pretty hard time in games. I'm leaning genuine reaction on it at the mome.
post # 103- Nightson rolls in after only posting a few "fluff" posts at the beginning and votes Nostrum.I find that weird for Nightson to drop a vote for no reason. I don't like this. leaning scum
You find it weird for me to drop a vote and not give reasoning? Why do you find that weird?
Seriously?
post # 103- Nightson rolls in after only posting a few "fluff" posts at the beginning and votes Nostrum.I find that weird for Nightson to drop a vote for no reason. I don't like this. leaning scum
You find it weird for me to drop a vote and not give reasoning? Why do you find that weird?
I feel like when I have played with you, you normally give a reason for your voting. Other than at the very beginning when a lot of people put down votes to get the game started. It seemed to me that you were on early, then off, then came back in and voted with no reason and right now is the first time you are back. It didn't seem like the town Nightson I know. I remember you being much more engaged. Maybe I am wrong. What was the reason for your vote?
Nostrum reacted rather defensively to CGI's policy vote on her, I wanted to see what her reaction to a second vote would be.
I can't remember the last time I posted reasoning for a vote beyond "I think they're scum."
Hmm. That is kind of what I was expecting you to say, although it's crap I reacted defensively to CGI's vote. I was expecting it, I joked about it even. You've not reassured me at all... because.... you have contradicted yourself IMO about why you put the vote down. You are hedging between 'it was a pressure vote to see a reaction' and 'I thought her reaction to CGI was scummy'
gib
30th January 2012, 10:24 PM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
i think daphne is wrong about fuzzy who looks town to me but the rest of it matched my thoughts p closely which has me leaning town on daphne
i think daphne is wrong about fuzzy who looks town to me but the rest of it matched my thoughts p closely which has me leaning town on daphne
oblivion
30th January 2012, 10:27 PM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
i think daphne is wrong about fuzzy who looks town to me but the rest of it matched my thoughts p closely which has me leaning town on daphne
So where do you stand now on bolero?
i think daphne is wrong about fuzzy who looks town to me but the rest of it matched my thoughts p closely which has me leaning town on daphne
So where do you stand now on bolero?
gib
30th January 2012, 10:36 PM
ok, gib, you put a pressure vote on zigmen, what have you learned from his reaction to you?
A lot of it hinges on whether i believe he is genuinely hurt when he says i don't like him. Could well be butthurt from something i said on TR but afaik i've only said nice thinbgs about dean as a GM so i'm a little puzzled there. What do you think?
Are you asking me whether I think dean is butthurt over something you said on TR?
asking if you think his hurt looks genuine, have you seen him like that before etc
yes, he once thought I had a vendetta against him.
assuming he was town then? thinking about this i don't think i've ever seen him take stuff personally as scum
zigmen
i'd still lke to see where i called hm an idiot tho
A lot of it hinges on whether i believe he is genuinely hurt when he says i don't like him. Could well be butthurt from something i said on TR but afaik i've only said nice thinbgs about dean as a GM so i'm a little puzzled there. What do you think?
Are you asking me whether I think dean is butthurt over something you said on TR?
asking if you think his hurt looks genuine, have you seen him like that before etc
yes, he once thought I had a vendetta against him.
assuming he was town then? thinking about this i don't think i've ever seen him take stuff personally as scum
zigmen
i'd still lke to see where i called hm an idiot tho
gib
30th January 2012, 10:43 PM
It's because it was mainly a recap. Plus, no read on me or ob, when we've done a fair bit of posting of questions/thoughts. Plus, a pile of scummish people when recently she's been scratching her head to find anyone scummy.
ok so how does this work? let's say for argument's sake that you're town and daphne is scum. how would it benefit her as scum to leave you off her list?
ok so how does this work? let's say for argument's sake that you're town and daphne is scum. how would it benefit her as scum to leave you off her list?
gib
30th January 2012, 10:55 PM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
i think daphne is wrong about fuzzy who looks town to me but the rest of it matched my thoughts p closely which has me leaning town on daphne
So where do you stand now on bolero?
unsure, my only real reference point here was the EQ game where i knew she was SK and i watched her fool everyone. I wouldn't like to see her lynched today as i'd like to see her game.
was it bolero who you asked to unpack a post? working from memory here but i don't think i understood that one either
i think daphne is wrong about fuzzy who looks town to me but the rest of it matched my thoughts p closely which has me leaning town on daphne
So where do you stand now on bolero?
unsure, my only real reference point here was the EQ game where i knew she was SK and i watched her fool everyone. I wouldn't like to see her lynched today as i'd like to see her game.
was it bolero who you asked to unpack a post? working from memory here but i don't think i understood that one either
gib
30th January 2012, 10:58 PM
nostrum 1 - cgi, nightson
nightson 1 - fuzzy, ade
zigmen 1 - gib, cgi
aden 0 - cgi
gib 0 - jerome
jerome 2 - ob, bolero, mz
daphne 1 - linus
bolero 0 - ade
mz 1 - jerome
athene 1 - zigmen
look right? did it on my reread but may have got a little lost on cgi's votes prior to the vote for zigmen
nightson 1 - fuzzy, ade
zigmen 1 - gib, cgi
aden 0 - cgi
gib 0 - jerome
jerome 2 - ob, bolero, mz
daphne 1 - linus
bolero 0 - ade
mz 1 - jerome
athene 1 - zigmen
look right? did it on my reread but may have got a little lost on cgi's votes prior to the vote for zigmen
oblivion
30th January 2012, 10:58 PM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
i think daphne is wrong about fuzzy who looks town to me but the rest of it matched my thoughts p closely which has me leaning town on daphne
So where do you stand now on bolero?
unsure, my only real reference point here was the EQ game where i knew she was SK and i watched her fool everyone. I wouldn't like to see her lynched today as i'd like to see her game.
was it bolero who you asked to unpack a post? working from memory here but i don't think i understood that one either
I think it was bolero. And I think it had to do with her confusing something Nostrum said about one player as being about another player.
i think daphne is wrong about fuzzy who looks town to me but the rest of it matched my thoughts p closely which has me leaning town on daphne
So where do you stand now on bolero?
unsure, my only real reference point here was the EQ game where i knew she was SK and i watched her fool everyone. I wouldn't like to see her lynched today as i'd like to see her game.
was it bolero who you asked to unpack a post? working from memory here but i don't think i understood that one either
I think it was bolero. And I think it had to do with her confusing something Nostrum said about one player as being about another player.
gib
30th January 2012, 10:58 PM
FIVE POST COMBINATION!
gib
30th January 2012, 10:59 PM
oh you bitch
gib
30th January 2012, 11:00 PM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
i think daphne is wrong about fuzzy who looks town to me but the rest of it matched my thoughts p closely which has me leaning town on daphne
So where do you stand now on bolero?
unsure, my only real reference point here was the EQ game where i knew she was SK and i watched her fool everyone. I wouldn't like to see her lynched today as i'd like to see her game.
was it bolero who you asked to unpack a post? working from memory here but i don't think i understood that one either
I think it was bolero. And I think it had to do with her confusing something Nostrum said about one player as being about another player.
i thought it was about nostrum following someone and something to do with me :dunno:
i think daphne is wrong about fuzzy who looks town to me but the rest of it matched my thoughts p closely which has me leaning town on daphne
So where do you stand now on bolero?
unsure, my only real reference point here was the EQ game where i knew she was SK and i watched her fool everyone. I wouldn't like to see her lynched today as i'd like to see her game.
was it bolero who you asked to unpack a post? working from memory here but i don't think i understood that one either
I think it was bolero. And I think it had to do with her confusing something Nostrum said about one player as being about another player.
i thought it was about nostrum following someone and something to do with me :dunno:
oblivion
30th January 2012, 11:00 PM
Here's the exchange.
I have not played enough with gib to know what he's like, but either he's being sus, or jerome and nostrum are following.
can you unpack this?
You have said that something's not sitting right with gib, and both nostrum and Jerome joined you in that suspicion without adding any explanation. Personally, I saw nothing in gib's posts to warrant suspicion, but then I haven't played with him much, and I have little to base meta on.
Nostrum joined me? Where?
I have not played enough with gib to know what he's like, but either he's being sus, or jerome and nostrum are following.
can you unpack this?
You have said that something's not sitting right with gib, and both nostrum and Jerome joined you in that suspicion without adding any explanation. Personally, I saw nothing in gib's posts to warrant suspicion, but then I haven't played with him much, and I have little to base meta on.
Nostrum joined me? Where?
Sorry, sorry, I've just gone back and re-read it, and she was talking about Linus, not gib. My mistake.
Apologies, nostrum.
I have not played enough with gib to know what he's like, but either he's being sus, or jerome and nostrum are following.
can you unpack this?
You have said that something's not sitting right with gib, and both nostrum and Jerome joined you in that suspicion without adding any explanation. Personally, I saw nothing in gib's posts to warrant suspicion, but then I haven't played with him much, and I have little to base meta on.
Nostrum joined me? Where?
I have not played enough with gib to know what he's like, but either he's being sus, or jerome and nostrum are following.
can you unpack this?
You have said that something's not sitting right with gib, and both nostrum and Jerome joined you in that suspicion without adding any explanation. Personally, I saw nothing in gib's posts to warrant suspicion, but then I haven't played with him much, and I have little to base meta on.
Nostrum joined me? Where?
Sorry, sorry, I've just gone back and re-read it, and she was talking about Linus, not gib. My mistake.
Apologies, nostrum.
Nightson
30th January 2012, 11:03 PM
You find it weird for me to drop a vote and not give reasoning? Why do you find that weird?
Seriously?
Yes. Weird implies strange or unusual and is based off past performance. As such I think that finding I'm weird for just voting without explaining reasoning to be odd considering my usual play.
Nostrum reacted rather defensively to CGI's policy vote on her, I wanted to see what her reaction to a second vote would be.
I can't remember the last time I posted reasoning for a vote beyond "I think they're scum."
Hmm. That is kind of what I was expecting you to say, although it's crap I reacted defensively to CGI's vote. I was expecting it, I joked about it even. You've not reassured me at all... because.... you have contradicted yourself IMO about why you put the vote down. You are hedging between 'it was a pressure vote to see a reaction' and 'I thought her reaction to CGI was scummy'
For something to be contradictory, they have to actually be in contradiction. Generally people don't pressure vote those they lean town on.
Seriously?
Yes. Weird implies strange or unusual and is based off past performance. As such I think that finding I'm weird for just voting without explaining reasoning to be odd considering my usual play.
Nostrum reacted rather defensively to CGI's policy vote on her, I wanted to see what her reaction to a second vote would be.
I can't remember the last time I posted reasoning for a vote beyond "I think they're scum."
Hmm. That is kind of what I was expecting you to say, although it's crap I reacted defensively to CGI's vote. I was expecting it, I joked about it even. You've not reassured me at all... because.... you have contradicted yourself IMO about why you put the vote down. You are hedging between 'it was a pressure vote to see a reaction' and 'I thought her reaction to CGI was scummy'
For something to be contradictory, they have to actually be in contradiction. Generally people don't pressure vote those they lean town on.
oblivion
30th January 2012, 11:09 PM
Nightson, you have any opinions about other players?
Nightson
30th January 2012, 11:22 PM
Nightson, you have any opinions about other players?
I'm leaning town on gib and linus.
Every other player is more in the unsure pile then in either the town or scum camp.
I'm leaning town on gib and linus.
Every other player is more in the unsure pile then in either the town or scum camp.
gib
30th January 2012, 11:29 PM
Nightson, you have any opinions about other players?
that was exactly my thought on reading nightson's post
that was exactly my thought on reading nightson's post
oblivion
30th January 2012, 11:34 PM
Nightson, you have any opinions about other players?
I'm leaning town on gib and linus.
Every other player is more in the unsure pile then in either the town or scum camp.
what makes you lean town on linus?
I'm leaning town on gib and linus.
Every other player is more in the unsure pile then in either the town or scum camp.
what makes you lean town on linus?
gib
30th January 2012, 11:54 PM
nightson
Jerome
30th January 2012, 11:55 PM
Nightson, you have any opinions about other players?
that was exactly my thought on reading nightson's post
Thus scurrying behind Ob like a little puppy 'yes tooing' is starting to bother me:
...
Gib
that was exactly my thought on reading nightson's post
Thus scurrying behind Ob like a little puppy 'yes tooing' is starting to bother me:
...
Gib
Nightson
30th January 2012, 11:58 PM
Nightson, you have any opinions about other players?
I'm leaning town on gib and linus.
Every other player is more in the unsure pile then in either the town or scum camp.
what makes you lean town on linus?
The post where he points out that you're very willing to bus scum partners.
I'm leaning town on gib and linus.
Every other player is more in the unsure pile then in either the town or scum camp.
what makes you lean town on linus?
The post where he points out that you're very willing to bus scum partners.
Facetious
31st January 2012, 12:00 AM
ob, how are you feeling about gib now?
gib
31st January 2012, 12:01 AM
Nightson, you have any opinions about other players?
that was exactly my thought on reading nightson's post
Thus scurrying behind Ob like a little puppy 'yes tooing' is starting to bother me:
...
Gib
so when did this implied series of yestooing start?
that was exactly my thought on reading nightson's post
Thus scurrying behind Ob like a little puppy 'yes tooing' is starting to bother me:
...
Gib
so when did this implied series of yestooing start?
oblivion
31st January 2012, 12:07 AM
Nightson, you have any opinions about other players?
I'm leaning town on gib and linus.
Every other player is more in the unsure pile then in either the town or scum camp.
what makes you lean town on linus?
The post where he points out that you're very willing to bus scum partners.
That post didn't do much for me, actually. But my internal thought process about bussing vs external appearances probably diverge quite a bit.
You and I were scum together in the KOTOR game. I wasn't willing to even consider a bus until quite late in that game IIRC.
I'm leaning town on gib and linus.
Every other player is more in the unsure pile then in either the town or scum camp.
what makes you lean town on linus?
The post where he points out that you're very willing to bus scum partners.
That post didn't do much for me, actually. But my internal thought process about bussing vs external appearances probably diverge quite a bit.
You and I were scum together in the KOTOR game. I wasn't willing to even consider a bus until quite late in that game IIRC.
oblivion
31st January 2012, 12:10 AM
ob, how are you feeling about gib now?
not too different. He's still in my unsure pile, though I'm not quite as torn as I was when I read the overnight activity. Some of his posts the last few hours have had a bit more of a town feel to them.
not too different. He's still in my unsure pile, though I'm not quite as torn as I was when I read the overnight activity. Some of his posts the last few hours have had a bit more of a town feel to them.
Nightson
31st January 2012, 12:13 AM
Nightson, you have any opinions about other players?
I'm leaning town on gib and linus.
Every other player is more in the unsure pile then in either the town or scum camp.
what makes you lean town on linus?
The post where he points out that you're very willing to bus scum partners.
That post didn't do much for me, actually. But my internal thought process about bussing vs external appearances probably diverge quite a bit.
You and I were scum together in the KOTOR game. I wasn't willing to even consider a bus until quite late in that game IIRC.
KOTOR was what I was thinking of too, but my recollection is that I pushed hard for pushing mislynches and keeping everyone alive and you very much wanted to tactical bus one or two teammates to try and get the others into the endgame. And I don't think it was very late in the game because that game only lasted like four days iirc.
I'm leaning town on gib and linus.
Every other player is more in the unsure pile then in either the town or scum camp.
what makes you lean town on linus?
The post where he points out that you're very willing to bus scum partners.
That post didn't do much for me, actually. But my internal thought process about bussing vs external appearances probably diverge quite a bit.
You and I were scum together in the KOTOR game. I wasn't willing to even consider a bus until quite late in that game IIRC.
KOTOR was what I was thinking of too, but my recollection is that I pushed hard for pushing mislynches and keeping everyone alive and you very much wanted to tactical bus one or two teammates to try and get the others into the endgame. And I don't think it was very late in the game because that game only lasted like four days iirc.
Facetious
31st January 2012, 12:17 AM
ob, how are you feeling about gib now?
not too different. He's still in my unsure pile, though I'm not quite as torn as I was when I read the overnight activity. Some of his posts the last few hours have had a bit more of a town feel to them.
ok, that's kind of where I am.
Gib, have you posted your thoughts on other players at any point recently?
not too different. He's still in my unsure pile, though I'm not quite as torn as I was when I read the overnight activity. Some of his posts the last few hours have had a bit more of a town feel to them.
ok, that's kind of where I am.
Gib, have you posted your thoughts on other players at any point recently?
gib
31st January 2012, 12:20 AM
ob, how are you feeling about gib now?
not too different. He's still in my unsure pile, though I'm not quite as torn as I was when I read the overnight activity. Some of his posts the last few hours have had a bit more of a town feel to them.
ok, that's kind of where I am.
Gib, have you posted your thoughts on other players at any point recently?
don't think so, what would you like?
not too different. He's still in my unsure pile, though I'm not quite as torn as I was when I read the overnight activity. Some of his posts the last few hours have had a bit more of a town feel to them.
ok, that's kind of where I am.
Gib, have you posted your thoughts on other players at any point recently?
don't think so, what would you like?
Facetious
31st January 2012, 12:25 AM
ob, how are you feeling about gib now?
not too different. He's still in my unsure pile, though I'm not quite as torn as I was when I read the overnight activity. Some of his posts the last few hours have had a bit more of a town feel to them.
ok, that's kind of where I am.
Gib, have you posted your thoughts on other players at any point recently?
don't think so, what would you like?
apart from nightson, who else do you suspect, and who would you put on your townie pile.
On that note, I'm heading to bed - I'll be around well before nightfall to put a vote down and stuff.
not too different. He's still in my unsure pile, though I'm not quite as torn as I was when I read the overnight activity. Some of his posts the last few hours have had a bit more of a town feel to them.
ok, that's kind of where I am.
Gib, have you posted your thoughts on other players at any point recently?
don't think so, what would you like?
apart from nightson, who else do you suspect, and who would you put on your townie pile.
On that note, I'm heading to bed - I'll be around well before nightfall to put a vote down and stuff.
oblivion
31st January 2012, 12:26 AM
Nightson, you have any opinions about other players?
I'm leaning town on gib and linus.
Every other player is more in the unsure pile then in either the town or scum camp.
what makes you lean town on linus?
The post where he points out that you're very willing to bus scum partners.
That post didn't do much for me, actually. But my internal thought process about bussing vs external appearances probably diverge quite a bit.
You and I were scum together in the KOTOR game. I wasn't willing to even consider a bus until quite late in that game IIRC.
KOTOR was what I was thinking of too, but my recollection is that I pushed hard for pushing mislynches and keeping everyone alive and you very much wanted to tactical bus one or two teammates to try and get the others into the endgame. And I don't think it was very late in the game because that game only lasted like four days iirc.
More like 5 or 6 days. Probably 5. My recollection is that I pushed to bus Zigmen on the final day, before it turned out he'd been viewed as scum by one of the freakish number of seers in the game. If I raised the idea of bussing before that, it was more about reminding myself and others that it's sometimes a tactic worth considering.
I'm leaning town on gib and linus.
Every other player is more in the unsure pile then in either the town or scum camp.
what makes you lean town on linus?
The post where he points out that you're very willing to bus scum partners.
That post didn't do much for me, actually. But my internal thought process about bussing vs external appearances probably diverge quite a bit.
You and I were scum together in the KOTOR game. I wasn't willing to even consider a bus until quite late in that game IIRC.
KOTOR was what I was thinking of too, but my recollection is that I pushed hard for pushing mislynches and keeping everyone alive and you very much wanted to tactical bus one or two teammates to try and get the others into the endgame. And I don't think it was very late in the game because that game only lasted like four days iirc.
More like 5 or 6 days. Probably 5. My recollection is that I pushed to bus Zigmen on the final day, before it turned out he'd been viewed as scum by one of the freakish number of seers in the game. If I raised the idea of bussing before that, it was more about reminding myself and others that it's sometimes a tactic worth considering.
gib
31st January 2012, 12:46 AM
apart from nightson, who else do you suspect, and who would you put on your townie pile.
On that note, I'm heading to bed - I'll be around well before nightfall to put a vote down and stuff.
scummy - jerome, maybe nostrum, maybe bolero, maybe even you
town - zigmen, fuzzy, mz, ob, linus
from the unsures it's cgi i need to hear from, i think i can read him but i need to see that new stream of consciousness posting we've seen in MR1 and in the current TR game (where i don't know his alignment, still spoiler free)
meh dunno, i'm more confident with those town reads, scum could well all be in the unsures.
On that note, I'm heading to bed - I'll be around well before nightfall to put a vote down and stuff.
scummy - jerome, maybe nostrum, maybe bolero, maybe even you
town - zigmen, fuzzy, mz, ob, linus
from the unsures it's cgi i need to hear from, i think i can read him but i need to see that new stream of consciousness posting we've seen in MR1 and in the current TR game (where i don't know his alignment, still spoiler free)
meh dunno, i'm more confident with those town reads, scum could well all be in the unsures.
Jerome
31st January 2012, 12:54 AM
Wow Gib, you have 'confident' town reads on a third of the players just 24 hours into Day 1.
Daphne Girl
31st January 2012, 02:46 AM
Wow Gib, you have 'confident' town reads on a third of the players just 24 hours into Day 1.
Do you have any reads thus far Jerome that you would like to share?
Do you have any reads thus far Jerome that you would like to share?
Adenosine
31st January 2012, 02:47 AM
I typed this two hours ago but couldn't post it then. Didn't think it would still be relevant now but there you go, two hours, one post.
"Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome on day one in the GitS game at FF. And they both did it early before the wagon even got rolling. So yes, Ob will bus and she will bus early. End derail?"
"Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome on day one in the GitS game at FF. And they both did it early before the wagon even got rolling. So yes, Ob will bus and she will bus early. End derail?"
oblivion
31st January 2012, 02:49 AM
I typed this two hours ago but couldn't post it then. Didn't think it would still be relevant now but there you go, two hours, one post.
"Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome on day one in the GitS game at FF. And they both did it early before the wagon even got rolling. So yes, Ob will bus and she will bus early. End derail?"
lol yes I did in that game. and in the last game I played at ratz. what I won't do as scum is use the same gambit in every game.
"Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome on day one in the GitS game at FF. And they both did it early before the wagon even got rolling. So yes, Ob will bus and she will bus early. End derail?"
lol yes I did in that game. and in the last game I played at ratz. what I won't do as scum is use the same gambit in every game.
Daphne Girl
31st January 2012, 02:50 AM
Good to know this Aden.
nostrum
31st January 2012, 02:52 AM
gib
nostrum
31st January 2012, 02:53 AM
I typed this two hours ago but couldn't post it then. Didn't think it would still be relevant now but there you go, two hours, one post.
"Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome on day one in the GitS game at FF. And they both did it early before the wagon even got rolling. So yes, Ob will bus and she will bus early. End derail?"
lol yes I did in that game. and in the last game I played at ratz. what I won't do as scum is use the same gambit in every game.
I'm going to be :hehe:if you and jerome in fact both ended up as scum, considering recent events
But... jerome has posted some towny stuff in the past 12 or so hours
"Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome on day one in the GitS game at FF. And they both did it early before the wagon even got rolling. So yes, Ob will bus and she will bus early. End derail?"
lol yes I did in that game. and in the last game I played at ratz. what I won't do as scum is use the same gambit in every game.
I'm going to be :hehe:if you and jerome in fact both ended up as scum, considering recent events
But... jerome has posted some towny stuff in the past 12 or so hours
nostrum
31st January 2012, 02:54 AM
jerome are you good to have ob as mayor?
nostrum
31st January 2012, 02:55 AM
bolero, sorry just remembered... you asked me why CGI voted me straight up. It was a result of last game (where he stuffed it up for everyone :p ...or was that me... I forget already) and he said I'd be his day 1 lynch from now on.
Jerome
31st January 2012, 02:58 AM
jerome are you good to have ob as mayor?
yes
yes
oblivion
31st January 2012, 03:00 AM
I typed this two hours ago but couldn't post it then. Didn't think it would still be relevant now but there you go, two hours, one post.
"Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome on day one in the GitS game at FF. And they both did it early before the wagon even got rolling. So yes, Ob will bus and she will bus early. End derail?"
lol yes I did in that game. and in the last game I played at ratz. what I won't do as scum is use the same gambit in every game.
I'm going to be :hehe:if you and jerome in fact both ended up as scum, considering recent events
But... jerome has posted some towny stuff in the past 12 or so hours i know. hence my unvote.
i don't think i can follow a gib vote today. not based on what I've noticed so far.
have you opined on nightson?
"Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome on day one in the GitS game at FF. And they both did it early before the wagon even got rolling. So yes, Ob will bus and she will bus early. End derail?"
lol yes I did in that game. and in the last game I played at ratz. what I won't do as scum is use the same gambit in every game.
I'm going to be :hehe:if you and jerome in fact both ended up as scum, considering recent events
But... jerome has posted some towny stuff in the past 12 or so hours i know. hence my unvote.
i don't think i can follow a gib vote today. not based on what I've noticed so far.
have you opined on nightson?
nostrum
31st January 2012, 03:12 AM
I typed this two hours ago but couldn't post it then. Didn't think it would still be relevant now but there you go, two hours, one post.
"Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome on day one in the GitS game at FF. And they both did it early before the wagon even got rolling. So yes, Ob will bus and she will bus early. End derail?"
lol yes I did in that game. and in the last game I played at ratz. what I won't do as scum is use the same gambit in every game.
I'm going to be :hehe:if you and jerome in fact both ended up as scum, considering recent events
But... jerome has posted some towny stuff in the past 12 or so hours i know. hence my unvote.
i don't think i can follow a gib vote today. not based on what I've noticed so far.
have you opined on nightson?
Yes, I'm finding him scummy. I don't really buy that anyone could really believe I was defensive toward CGI. But he might be using the old 'poke her with a stick and accuse her of being defensive and see how she reacts' technique, so his true reason might be OK. I thought his posted considerations thus far were pretty lame (and nearly posted such, but decided not to.) According to him, I'm the only scummy player in the game thus far :unsure:
But, because he has a vote on me, I will take extra care not to form a trolley track on him. And I think if he were scum he'd actually be making an effort to blend in... kind of more like daphne and gib, say.
Speaking of gib... what do you make of him now having a town read on you? Doesn't it strike you as a little too eager to please, given my and athene's questioning of him on that very topic (note both me and athene make his scum list lol)
"Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome on day one in the GitS game at FF. And they both did it early before the wagon even got rolling. So yes, Ob will bus and she will bus early. End derail?"
lol yes I did in that game. and in the last game I played at ratz. what I won't do as scum is use the same gambit in every game.
I'm going to be :hehe:if you and jerome in fact both ended up as scum, considering recent events
But... jerome has posted some towny stuff in the past 12 or so hours i know. hence my unvote.
i don't think i can follow a gib vote today. not based on what I've noticed so far.
have you opined on nightson?
Yes, I'm finding him scummy. I don't really buy that anyone could really believe I was defensive toward CGI. But he might be using the old 'poke her with a stick and accuse her of being defensive and see how she reacts' technique, so his true reason might be OK. I thought his posted considerations thus far were pretty lame (and nearly posted such, but decided not to.) According to him, I'm the only scummy player in the game thus far :unsure:
But, because he has a vote on me, I will take extra care not to form a trolley track on him. And I think if he were scum he'd actually be making an effort to blend in... kind of more like daphne and gib, say.
Speaking of gib... what do you make of him now having a town read on you? Doesn't it strike you as a little too eager to please, given my and athene's questioning of him on that very topic (note both me and athene make his scum list lol)
nostrum
31st January 2012, 03:13 AM
jerome are you good to have ob as mayor?
yes
okeydoke. I think aden is the towniest person in the game by a country mile so far, but having ob as mayor could be interesting
yes
okeydoke. I think aden is the towniest person in the game by a country mile so far, but having ob as mayor could be interesting
Amok
31st January 2012, 03:22 AM
I've just re-read Nightson's posts in chronological order. I need to ask (anyone) if it's a fair representation that he doesn't in general give explanations beyond "I think they're Scum" for his lynch votes.
If it is true, what else is there that's pinging for people? I don't see it.
Also, Oblivion, have you rethought your initial opinion of Linus? Whatever it was in his first post.
Linus, can you please explain your use of "stronger belief" here:
Two interaction reads: 1. Stronger belief that at most one of gib and cgi are scum. 2. Stronger belief that at most one of jerome and bolero are scum.I couldn't find a reference point to understand the "stronger" bit.
If it is true, what else is there that's pinging for people? I don't see it.
Also, Oblivion, have you rethought your initial opinion of Linus? Whatever it was in his first post.
Linus, can you please explain your use of "stronger belief" here:
Two interaction reads: 1. Stronger belief that at most one of gib and cgi are scum. 2. Stronger belief that at most one of jerome and bolero are scum.I couldn't find a reference point to understand the "stronger" bit.
Amok
31st January 2012, 03:27 AM
X-post with Nostrum re: Nightson.
Adenosine
31st January 2012, 03:31 AM
My main problem with Nightson is that he came in, plonked a vote down and then disappeared for 24 hours. When he came back he had, to me, a lame reason for the vote. If he's voting for reaction he shouldn't have spent half the first day gone.
Nightson
31st January 2012, 03:41 AM
Aden going after me is a town tell for him I think, always seems to happen when he's town, but goes after lower hanging fruit when scum.
Jerome
31st January 2012, 03:43 AM
...
Adenosine
Adenosine
oblivion
31st January 2012, 03:43 AM
Nostrum...
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
Jerome
31st January 2012, 03:44 AM
I've just re-read Nightson's posts in chronological order. I need to ask (anyone) if it's a fair representation that he doesn't in general give explanations beyond "I think they're Scum" for his lynch votes.
this is common play for him
this is common play for him
oblivion
31st January 2012, 03:45 AM
I've just re-read Nightson's posts in chronological order. I need to ask (anyone) if it's a fair representation that he doesn't in general give explanations beyond "I think they're Scum" for his lynch votes.
If it is true, what else is there that's pinging for people? I don't see it.
Also, Oblivion, have you rethought your initial opinion of Linus? Whatever it was in his first post.
Linus, can you please explain your use of "stronger belief" here:
Two interaction reads: 1. Stronger belief that at most one of gib and cgi are scum. 2. Stronger belief that at most one of jerome and bolero are scum.I couldn't find a reference point to understand the "stronger" bit.
I still haven't seen what I was expecting to see from him long before now. So I'm suspicious of him. But, I'm considering the town reads that others have. They can't all be scum.
If it is true, what else is there that's pinging for people? I don't see it.
Also, Oblivion, have you rethought your initial opinion of Linus? Whatever it was in his first post.
Linus, can you please explain your use of "stronger belief" here:
Two interaction reads: 1. Stronger belief that at most one of gib and cgi are scum. 2. Stronger belief that at most one of jerome and bolero are scum.I couldn't find a reference point to understand the "stronger" bit.
I still haven't seen what I was expecting to see from him long before now. So I'm suspicious of him. But, I'm considering the town reads that others have. They can't all be scum.
Adenosine
31st January 2012, 03:46 AM
Aden going after me is a town tell for him I think, always seems to happen when he's town, but goes after lower hanging fruit when scum.
Why did you leave the hook lying for so long? What did you learn from it?
Why did you leave the hook lying for so long? What did you learn from it?
oblivion
31st January 2012, 03:51 AM
I could go for a nightson vote. I want to hear more from Zigmen. Preferably when I'm around for back and forth.
oblivion
31st January 2012, 03:52 AM
Nightson
Amok
31st January 2012, 03:53 AM
Nostrum, at 6:22p.m. you said, re: Nightson:
Hmm. That is kind of what I was expecting you to say, although it's crap I reacted defensively to CGI's vote. I was expecting it, I joked about it even. You've not reassured me at all... because.... you have contradicted yourself IMO about why you put the vote down. You are hedging between 'it was a pressure vote to see a reaction' and 'I thought her reaction to CGI was scummy'I looked for a joke, but couldn't find one.
The only joke I could find was posted hours later, at 10:55p.m.:
bolero, sorry just remembered... you asked me why CGI voted me straight up. It was a result of last game (where he stuffed it up for everyone :p ...or was that me... I forget already) and he said I'd be his day 1 lynch from now on.Please point out an earlier joke if I'm missing it.
Hmm. That is kind of what I was expecting you to say, although it's crap I reacted defensively to CGI's vote. I was expecting it, I joked about it even. You've not reassured me at all... because.... you have contradicted yourself IMO about why you put the vote down. You are hedging between 'it was a pressure vote to see a reaction' and 'I thought her reaction to CGI was scummy'I looked for a joke, but couldn't find one.
The only joke I could find was posted hours later, at 10:55p.m.:
bolero, sorry just remembered... you asked me why CGI voted me straight up. It was a result of last game (where he stuffed it up for everyone :p ...or was that me... I forget already) and he said I'd be his day 1 lynch from now on.Please point out an earlier joke if I'm missing it.
Nightson
31st January 2012, 03:56 AM
Aden going after me is a town tell for him I think, always seems to happen when he's town, but goes after lower hanging fruit when scum.
Why did you leave the hook lying for so long? What did you learn from it?
Nostrum has always had a pretty strong defensive OMGUS reaction in my mind. She's toned that down and has now posted that's on purpose. I'm still not sure what to make of her.
My absence wasn't some sort of ploy, I was just sort of busy so I put this game on the backburner since I'd have plenty of time to be around before nightfall.
Why did you leave the hook lying for so long? What did you learn from it?
Nostrum has always had a pretty strong defensive OMGUS reaction in my mind. She's toned that down and has now posted that's on purpose. I'm still not sure what to make of her.
My absence wasn't some sort of ploy, I was just sort of busy so I put this game on the backburner since I'd have plenty of time to be around before nightfall.
Jerome
31st January 2012, 03:58 AM
But, I'm considering the town reads that others have. They can't all be scum.
Nightson
:doh:
Nightson
:doh:
Jerome
31st January 2012, 03:59 AM
Amok reads like he is reaching..
Adenosine
31st January 2012, 03:59 AM
Aden going after me is a town tell for him I think, always seems to happen when he's town, but goes after lower hanging fruit when scum.
Why did you leave the hook lying for so long? What did you learn from it?
Nostrum has always had a pretty strong defensive OMGUS reaction in my mind. She's toned that down and has now posted that's on purpose. I'm still not sure what to make of her.
My absence wasn't some sort of ploy, I was just sort of busy so I put this game on the backburner since I'd have plenty of time to be around before nightfall.
Did you see what she said about Daphne's long post? What did you think of that?
Why did you leave the hook lying for so long? What did you learn from it?
Nostrum has always had a pretty strong defensive OMGUS reaction in my mind. She's toned that down and has now posted that's on purpose. I'm still not sure what to make of her.
My absence wasn't some sort of ploy, I was just sort of busy so I put this game on the backburner since I'd have plenty of time to be around before nightfall.
Did you see what she said about Daphne's long post? What did you think of that?
oblivion
31st January 2012, 03:59 AM
your decontextualized quote was about linus.
Adenosine
31st January 2012, 04:01 AM
Amok reads like he is reaching..
I don't think she is. I think she is clarifying.
I don't think she is. I think she is clarifying.
oblivion
31st January 2012, 04:02 AM
yeah, so far I'm liking most of what Amok posts. Though she did completely miss my sarcasm in one reply of mine she highlighted earlier.
Amok
31st January 2012, 04:04 AM
Amok reads like he is reaching..
Amok would like Nostrum to answer the question. I'm still looking for an earlier joke myself, however, to be fair. I know it's possible I missed it.
Amok would like Nostrum to answer the question. I'm still looking for an earlier joke myself, however, to be fair. I know it's possible I missed it.
Amok
31st January 2012, 04:07 AM
yeah, so far I'm liking most of what Amok posts. Though she did completely miss my sarcasm in one reply of mine she highlighted earlier.
Oh. I'll go back and look again at your posts that I highlighted.
Oh. I'll go back and look again at your posts that I highlighted.
Nightson
31st January 2012, 04:10 AM
Did you see what she said about Daphne's long post? What did you think of that?
She said it was a recap, which is fair. It was suspicious that there was no read on nostrum or raven, which I think is bad reasoning but doesn't strike me as scummy. And that Daphne doesn't usually have so many scum suspects, which would be useful to look up and compare her town and scum games for, I have no idea how true it is off the top of my head. Does sort of feel like genuine scum hunting on Nostrums part.
She said it was a recap, which is fair. It was suspicious that there was no read on nostrum or raven, which I think is bad reasoning but doesn't strike me as scummy. And that Daphne doesn't usually have so many scum suspects, which would be useful to look up and compare her town and scum games for, I have no idea how true it is off the top of my head. Does sort of feel like genuine scum hunting on Nostrums part.
Amok
31st January 2012, 04:18 AM
yeah, so far I'm liking most of what Amok posts. Though she did completely miss my sarcasm in one reply of mine she highlighted earlier.
Oh. I'll go back and look again at your posts that I highlighted.
Ah. This one.
may take a couple games to get my finely honed hair trigger snark backFair enough. I realized it was a joke, but still found it incongruous when taken part and parcel with your other "lack of confidence" type remarks. I'm keeping in mind your explanation and my own prejudices about your skill.
Oh. I'll go back and look again at your posts that I highlighted.
Ah. This one.
may take a couple games to get my finely honed hair trigger snark backFair enough. I realized it was a joke, but still found it incongruous when taken part and parcel with your other "lack of confidence" type remarks. I'm keeping in mind your explanation and my own prejudices about your skill.
Zigmen
31st January 2012, 04:29 AM
I could go for a nightson vote. I want to hear more from Zigmen. Preferably when I'm around for back and forth.
I'm caught up to this point.
I'm caught up to this point.
nostrum
31st January 2012, 04:30 AM
Nostrum, at 6:22p.m. you said, re: Nightson:
Hmm. That is kind of what I was expecting you to say, although it's crap I reacted defensively to CGI's vote. I was expecting it, I joked about it even. You've not reassured me at all... because.... you have contradicted yourself IMO about why you put the vote down. You are hedging between 'it was a pressure vote to see a reaction' and 'I thought her reaction to CGI was scummy'I looked for a joke, but couldn't find one.
The only joke I could find was posted hours later, at 10:55p.m.:
bolero, sorry just remembered... you asked me why CGI voted me straight up. It was a result of last game (where he stuffed it up for everyone :p ...or was that me... I forget already) and he said I'd be his day 1 lynch from now on.Please point out an earlier joke if I'm missing it.
Here 'tis, amok
Checking in.
i have my hands full with TRtown atm, sorry i can't post more.
i will come back here when i wake up.
Phew, well at least you put a well-thought-out vote down first
Hmm. That is kind of what I was expecting you to say, although it's crap I reacted defensively to CGI's vote. I was expecting it, I joked about it even. You've not reassured me at all... because.... you have contradicted yourself IMO about why you put the vote down. You are hedging between 'it was a pressure vote to see a reaction' and 'I thought her reaction to CGI was scummy'I looked for a joke, but couldn't find one.
The only joke I could find was posted hours later, at 10:55p.m.:
bolero, sorry just remembered... you asked me why CGI voted me straight up. It was a result of last game (where he stuffed it up for everyone :p ...or was that me... I forget already) and he said I'd be his day 1 lynch from now on.Please point out an earlier joke if I'm missing it.
Here 'tis, amok
Checking in.
i have my hands full with TRtown atm, sorry i can't post more.
i will come back here when i wake up.
Phew, well at least you put a well-thought-out vote down first
Amok
31st January 2012, 04:40 AM
Here 'tis, amok
Checking in.
i have my hands full with TRtown atm, sorry i can't post more.
i will come back here when i wake up.
Phew, well at least you put a well-thought-out vote down first
Thank you! That went completely over my head, even after searching again.
Checking in.
i have my hands full with TRtown atm, sorry i can't post more.
i will come back here when i wake up.
Phew, well at least you put a well-thought-out vote down first
Thank you! That went completely over my head, even after searching again.
Zigmen
31st January 2012, 04:44 AM
zigmen what as the game here i called you an idiot, this is bugging me now
Researched for a few minutes and found a few:
hey scum, thanks for killing me night1 so i didn't have to read any more of zigmen's pompous posts!
if you want to look dumb after the game then by all means keep telling yourself i'm not town
fuck off dean
you look dumb as fuck
i see zigmen fucked off
:colbert:
Researched for a few minutes and found a few:
hey scum, thanks for killing me night1 so i didn't have to read any more of zigmen's pompous posts!
if you want to look dumb after the game then by all means keep telling yourself i'm not town
fuck off dean
you look dumb as fuck
i see zigmen fucked off
:colbert:
oblivion
31st January 2012, 04:47 AM
yeah, so far I'm liking most of what Amok posts. Though she did completely miss my sarcasm in one reply of mine she highlighted earlier.
Oh. I'll go back and look again at your posts that I highlighted.
Ah. This one.
may take a couple games to get my finely honed hair trigger snark backFair enough. I realized it was a joke, but still found it incongruous when taken part and parcel with your other "lack of confidence" type remarks. I'm keeping in mind your explanation and my own prejudices about your skill.
sorry, that wasn't the one I was talking about, though I had a bit of topspin on that one, too.
It was the one where I paralleled gib's comment about projecting.
Oh. I'll go back and look again at your posts that I highlighted.
Ah. This one.
may take a couple games to get my finely honed hair trigger snark backFair enough. I realized it was a joke, but still found it incongruous when taken part and parcel with your other "lack of confidence" type remarks. I'm keeping in mind your explanation and my own prejudices about your skill.
sorry, that wasn't the one I was talking about, though I had a bit of topspin on that one, too.
It was the one where I paralleled gib's comment about projecting.
oblivion
31st January 2012, 04:50 AM
I could go for a nightson vote. I want to hear more from Zigmen. Preferably when I'm around for back and forth.
I'm caught up to this point.
your post for gib answered my question. :sadcheer:
I'm working with Cunt on template stuff right now because we're both online. I won't be checking back into this thread frequently for the next hour or so.
I'm caught up to this point.
your post for gib answered my question. :sadcheer:
I'm working with Cunt on template stuff right now because we're both online. I won't be checking back into this thread frequently for the next hour or so.
Fuzzy
31st January 2012, 04:51 AM
Wow Gib, you have 'confident' town reads on a third of the players just 24 hours into Day 1.
That stuck out to me, too. I'm not convinced, though.
JEROME
That stuck out to me, too. I'm not convinced, though.
JEROME
Zigmen
31st January 2012, 04:51 AM
I'm not really seeing the Nightson vote. Oblivion, what are you seeing?
I am getting more of a nagging feeling from Nostrum.
I am getting more of a nagging feeling from Nostrum.
Fuzzy
31st January 2012, 04:51 AM
Zigmen, where'd you hide your town-proving clue this game?
nostrum
31st January 2012, 04:56 AM
Aden going after me is a town tell for him I think, always seems to happen when he's town, but goes after lower hanging fruit when scum.
Why did you leave the hook lying for so long? What did you learn from it?
Nostrum has always had a pretty strong defensive OMGUS reaction in my mind. She's toned that down and has now posted that's on purpose. I'm still not sure what to make of her.
My absence wasn't some sort of ploy, I was just sort of busy so I put this game on the backburner since I'd have plenty of time to be around before nightfall.
I'm not really seeing the Nightson vote. Oblivion, what are you seeing?
I am getting more of a nagging feeling from Nostrum.
Seriously zigmen, you've used me as a day 1 go-to as cover for being scum before, and you also like to do that as town. It's getting old already. I don't like you mislynched day 1 (or vig-killed) because I know you can settle into a game really well when you are town.
Why did you leave the hook lying for so long? What did you learn from it?
Nostrum has always had a pretty strong defensive OMGUS reaction in my mind. She's toned that down and has now posted that's on purpose. I'm still not sure what to make of her.
My absence wasn't some sort of ploy, I was just sort of busy so I put this game on the backburner since I'd have plenty of time to be around before nightfall.
I'm not really seeing the Nightson vote. Oblivion, what are you seeing?
I am getting more of a nagging feeling from Nostrum.
Seriously zigmen, you've used me as a day 1 go-to as cover for being scum before, and you also like to do that as town. It's getting old already. I don't like you mislynched day 1 (or vig-killed) because I know you can settle into a game really well when you are town.
nostrum
31st January 2012, 04:57 AM
Zigmen, where'd you hide your town-proving clue this game?
I'm not sure whether to :hehe: or :colbert: to this
I'm not sure whether to :hehe: or :colbert: to this
nostrum
31st January 2012, 05:01 AM
Oops I had that nightson post in my multi-quote cache and forgot about it.
What I was going to say was, nightson you are right, that is something I do have a tendency to do. I'm trying to overcome that.
I've found your recent posts towny so I don't think your lynch is the best one.
Who do you think should be lynched?
Aden going after me is a town tell for him I think, always seems to happen when he's town, but goes after lower hanging fruit when scum.
Why did you leave the hook lying for so long? What did you learn from it?
Nostrum has always had a pretty strong defensive OMGUS reaction in my mind. She's toned that down and has now posted that's on purpose. I'm still not sure what to make of her.
My absence wasn't some sort of ploy, I was just sort of busy so I put this game on the backburner since I'd have plenty of time to be around before nightfall.
I'm not really seeing the Nightson vote. Oblivion, what are you seeing?
I am getting more of a nagging feeling from Nostrum.
Seriously zigmen, you've used me as a day 1 go-to as cover for being scum before, and you also like to do that as town. It's getting old already. I don't like you mislynched day 1 (or vig-killed) because I know you can settle into a game really well when you are town.
What I was going to say was, nightson you are right, that is something I do have a tendency to do. I'm trying to overcome that.
I've found your recent posts towny so I don't think your lynch is the best one.
Who do you think should be lynched?
Aden going after me is a town tell for him I think, always seems to happen when he's town, but goes after lower hanging fruit when scum.
Why did you leave the hook lying for so long? What did you learn from it?
Nostrum has always had a pretty strong defensive OMGUS reaction in my mind. She's toned that down and has now posted that's on purpose. I'm still not sure what to make of her.
My absence wasn't some sort of ploy, I was just sort of busy so I put this game on the backburner since I'd have plenty of time to be around before nightfall.
I'm not really seeing the Nightson vote. Oblivion, what are you seeing?
I am getting more of a nagging feeling from Nostrum.
Seriously zigmen, you've used me as a day 1 go-to as cover for being scum before, and you also like to do that as town. It's getting old already. I don't like you mislynched day 1 (or vig-killed) because I know you can settle into a game really well when you are town.
Zigmen
31st January 2012, 05:11 AM
Oops I had that nightson post in my multi-quote cache and forgot about it.
What I was going to say was, nightson you are right, that is something I do have a tendency to do. I'm trying to overcome that.
I've found your recent posts towny so I don't think your lynch is the best one.
Who do you think should be lynched?
Aden going after me is a town tell for him I think, always seems to happen when he's town, but goes after lower hanging fruit when scum.
Why did you leave the hook lying for so long? What did you learn from it?
Nostrum has always had a pretty strong defensive OMGUS reaction in my mind. She's toned that down and has now posted that's on purpose. I'm still not sure what to make of her.
My absence wasn't some sort of ploy, I was just sort of busy so I put this game on the backburner since I'd have plenty of time to be around before nightfall.
I'm not really seeing the Nightson vote. Oblivion, what are you seeing?
I am getting more of a nagging feeling from Nostrum.
Seriously zigmen, you've used me as a day 1 go-to as cover for being scum before, and you also like to do that as town. It's getting old already. I don't like you mislynched day 1 (or vig-killed) because I know you can settle into a game really well when you are town.
When did I ever use you as a day 1 go-to as scum?
What I was going to say was, nightson you are right, that is something I do have a tendency to do. I'm trying to overcome that.
I've found your recent posts towny so I don't think your lynch is the best one.
Who do you think should be lynched?
Aden going after me is a town tell for him I think, always seems to happen when he's town, but goes after lower hanging fruit when scum.
Why did you leave the hook lying for so long? What did you learn from it?
Nostrum has always had a pretty strong defensive OMGUS reaction in my mind. She's toned that down and has now posted that's on purpose. I'm still not sure what to make of her.
My absence wasn't some sort of ploy, I was just sort of busy so I put this game on the backburner since I'd have plenty of time to be around before nightfall.
I'm not really seeing the Nightson vote. Oblivion, what are you seeing?
I am getting more of a nagging feeling from Nostrum.
Seriously zigmen, you've used me as a day 1 go-to as cover for being scum before, and you also like to do that as town. It's getting old already. I don't like you mislynched day 1 (or vig-killed) because I know you can settle into a game really well when you are town.
When did I ever use you as a day 1 go-to as scum?
oblivion
31st January 2012, 05:18 AM
Nightson
I've been multitasking the last couple hours. I think I need to come back to this with fresh eyes in a bit.
(check out the Grey Rumpus theme if you want to see what Cunt and I have been up to tonight)
I've been multitasking the last couple hours. I think I need to come back to this with fresh eyes in a bit.
(check out the Grey Rumpus theme if you want to see what Cunt and I have been up to tonight)
Zigmen
31st January 2012, 05:22 AM
##Unvote##
I reread Athene's posts in context and she looks ok.
I reread Athene's posts in context and she looks ok.
Fuzzy
31st January 2012, 05:26 AM
Nightson
I've been multitasking the last couple hours. I think I need to come back to this with fresh eyes in a bit.
(check out the Grey Rumpus theme if you want to see what Cunt and I have been up to tonight)
Nice sunset.
I've been multitasking the last couple hours. I think I need to come back to this with fresh eyes in a bit.
(check out the Grey Rumpus theme if you want to see what Cunt and I have been up to tonight)
Nice sunset.
Zigmen
31st January 2012, 05:38 AM
##Vote Bolero##
For trying not to make waves. Didn't like being questioned about voting Gib for mayor, but pulled the vote off anyway.Seems to be trying to sneak around without causing concern.
For trying not to make waves. Didn't like being questioned about voting Gib for mayor, but pulled the vote off anyway.Seems to be trying to sneak around without causing concern.
Cpt. Gender Injustice
31st January 2012, 05:54 AM
Finally found some time to catch up.
CGI I don't have a good read of. I thought it was a dick move posting TR gameplay in this thread, but that doesn't mean he isn't town.
that's not gameplay, anyone who reads the game (and you have) can clearly see that it was just a short recap. i don't know what to make of this.
I know why CGI dropped a vote on me, but the aden vote... is he one to harbour prior game grudges?
never forgive. never forget.
CGI I don't have a good read of. I thought it was a dick move posting TR gameplay in this thread, but that doesn't mean he isn't town.
that's not gameplay, anyone who reads the game (and you have) can clearly see that it was just a short recap. i don't know what to make of this.
I know why CGI dropped a vote on me, but the aden vote... is he one to harbour prior game grudges?
never forgive. never forget.
Zigmen
31st January 2012, 05:55 AM
Gotta sleep. Don't forget to answer my question, Nostrum.
Cpt. Gender Injustice
31st January 2012, 06:03 AM
the dynamics so far have me a bit confused. i usually start by trusting the good players because it's a low risk move, they will either not survive long anyway or get viewed. seems like you guys are all over the place.
and the mayor votes are just peachy... i wouldn't trust aden to break a tie, his reads are always wrong, he's the guy you can safely fade on every coinflip.
@@vote oblivion@@
##vote daphne##
and the mayor votes are just peachy... i wouldn't trust aden to break a tie, his reads are always wrong, he's the guy you can safely fade on every coinflip.
@@vote oblivion@@
##vote daphne##
Cpt. Gender Injustice
31st January 2012, 06:04 AM
[ 0 ] Adenosine voted for Nightson
[ 0 ] Athene voted for
[ 0 ] amok voted for
[ 1 ] Bolero voted for Jerome
[ 0 ] borealis voted for
[ 0 ] CGI voted for Daphne Girl
[ 2 ] Daphne Girl voted for
[ 0 ] Elouise voted for
[ 0 ] Fuzzy fungi voted for
[ 2 ] gib voted for Nightson
[ 2 ] Jerome voted for gib
[ 0 ] Linus voted for Daphne Girl
[ 0 ] MagicZiggy voted for Jerome
[ 2 ] Nightson voted for nostrum
[ 1 ] nostrum voted for gib
[ 0 ] oblivion voted for
[ 0 ] Zigmen voted for Bolero
[ 3 ] Adenosine voted for
[ 0 ] Athene voted for
[ 0 ] amok voted for
[ 1 ] Bolero voted for nostrum
[ 0 ] borealis voted for
[ 0 ] CGI voted for oblivion
[ 0 ] Daphne Girl voted for
[ 0 ] Elouise voted for
[ 0 ] Fuzzy fungi voted for Jerome
[ 0 ] gib voted for
[ 1 ] Jerome voted for Adenosine
[ 0 ] Linus voted for Bolero
[ 0 ] MagicZiggy voted for Adenosine
[ 0 ] Nightson voted for
[ 1 ] nostrum voted for Adenosine
[ 2 ] oblivion voted for
[ 0 ] Zigmen voted for oblivion
[ 0 ] Athene voted for
[ 0 ] amok voted for
[ 1 ] Bolero voted for Jerome
[ 0 ] borealis voted for
[ 0 ] CGI voted for Daphne Girl
[ 2 ] Daphne Girl voted for
[ 0 ] Elouise voted for
[ 0 ] Fuzzy fungi voted for
[ 2 ] gib voted for Nightson
[ 2 ] Jerome voted for gib
[ 0 ] Linus voted for Daphne Girl
[ 0 ] MagicZiggy voted for Jerome
[ 2 ] Nightson voted for nostrum
[ 1 ] nostrum voted for gib
[ 0 ] oblivion voted for
[ 0 ] Zigmen voted for Bolero
[ 3 ] Adenosine voted for
[ 0 ] Athene voted for
[ 0 ] amok voted for
[ 1 ] Bolero voted for nostrum
[ 0 ] borealis voted for
[ 0 ] CGI voted for oblivion
[ 0 ] Daphne Girl voted for
[ 0 ] Elouise voted for
[ 0 ] Fuzzy fungi voted for Jerome
[ 0 ] gib voted for
[ 1 ] Jerome voted for Adenosine
[ 0 ] Linus voted for Bolero
[ 0 ] MagicZiggy voted for Adenosine
[ 0 ] Nightson voted for
[ 1 ] nostrum voted for Adenosine
[ 2 ] oblivion voted for
[ 0 ] Zigmen voted for oblivion
Bolero
31st January 2012, 06:20 AM
Um, how is seeing someone's point trying not to make waves?
Guys, at this stage I'm all for ob as mayor. If she's town, she's an asset, and at this stage I have less of a read on pretty much everyone else.
nostrum
oblivion
And I trust very few people's instincts, because I know how many of you are incorrectly fosing me. Don't give a fuck if that sounds scummy...it's true.
Guys, at this stage I'm all for ob as mayor. If she's town, she's an asset, and at this stage I have less of a read on pretty much everyone else.
nostrum
oblivion
And I trust very few people's instincts, because I know how many of you are incorrectly fosing me. Don't give a fuck if that sounds scummy...it's true.
Nightson
31st January 2012, 07:13 AM
Oops I had that nightson post in my multi-quote cache and forgot about it.
What I was going to say was, nightson you are right, that is something I do have a tendency to do. I'm trying to overcome that.
I've found your recent posts towny so I don't think your lynch is the best one.
Who do you think should be lynched?
I find that a hard question to answer at the moment. Not you I guess nostrum
Let's see, excluding the people who have given me any townie vibes however small, and excluding Elouise and borealis who haven't posted yet, gives me
Athene
Bolero
Cpt. Gender
Daphne Girl
Fuzzy fungi
MagicZiggy
Zigmen
I guess I'd just rather see someone on this list get lynched then someone off it.
@Gonzo - Are borealis and Elouise both playing, I think you said Elouise is earlier in thread, does that still hold?
What I was going to say was, nightson you are right, that is something I do have a tendency to do. I'm trying to overcome that.
I've found your recent posts towny so I don't think your lynch is the best one.
Who do you think should be lynched?
I find that a hard question to answer at the moment. Not you I guess nostrum
Let's see, excluding the people who have given me any townie vibes however small, and excluding Elouise and borealis who haven't posted yet, gives me
Athene
Bolero
Cpt. Gender
Daphne Girl
Fuzzy fungi
MagicZiggy
Zigmen
I guess I'd just rather see someone on this list get lynched then someone off it.
@Gonzo - Are borealis and Elouise both playing, I think you said Elouise is earlier in thread, does that still hold?
Magicziggy
31st January 2012, 10:00 AM
notice you didn't explain your vote change.
jerome that's 3 time's you've been asked about this
To see what would happen, we got a revenge vote that put me in the lead.
Look at the votes on me:
OB: I followed her suspicions
Bolero: pressure vote
MZ: revenge vote
It is also weird that you seem to think my lynch is a forgone conclusion.
So, what will we learn from my lynch is the question that needs to be asked.
Has Jerome defended himself this well before when town? He looks town now.. "Looks" being the operative word.. I pick Jerome's town game because it never looks anything of the sort.
Leaving my vote for now and reading on
jerome that's 3 time's you've been asked about this
To see what would happen, we got a revenge vote that put me in the lead.
Look at the votes on me:
OB: I followed her suspicions
Bolero: pressure vote
MZ: revenge vote
It is also weird that you seem to think my lynch is a forgone conclusion.
So, what will we learn from my lynch is the question that needs to be asked.
Has Jerome defended himself this well before when town? He looks town now.. "Looks" being the operative word.. I pick Jerome's town game because it never looks anything of the sort.
Leaving my vote for now and reading on
Magicziggy
31st January 2012, 10:06 AM
btw Gib, you place votes all the time and don't answer why you did, ... curious that my vote here sans explanation has you so bothered .. :hmmm:
i was more interested in why you unvoted me
I'm getting mixed signals from your posts over (my) night. This one rings townish. but overall, you're not in my looks townish pile atm.
Dunno. Town Gib seems (lately) to harp on me with dubious and concocted logic. I'm thinking of his reaction to when I GKed Praying for posting a screenshot of her inbox. He was not hesitant to tell me what an idiot he thought I was even though I clearly made the correct decision. I think he just plain doesn't like me. Scum Gib would probably put a sock in it for the good of his team.
True I think.. Leaning town on zigmen
i was more interested in why you unvoted me
I'm getting mixed signals from your posts over (my) night. This one rings townish. but overall, you're not in my looks townish pile atm.
Dunno. Town Gib seems (lately) to harp on me with dubious and concocted logic. I'm thinking of his reaction to when I GKed Praying for posting a screenshot of her inbox. He was not hesitant to tell me what an idiot he thought I was even though I clearly made the correct decision. I think he just plain doesn't like me. Scum Gib would probably put a sock in it for the good of his team.
True I think.. Leaning town on zigmen
gib
31st January 2012, 10:08 AM
zigmen what as the game here i called you an idiot, this is bugging me now
Researched for a few minutes and found a few:
hey scum, thanks for killing me night1 so i didn't have to read any more of zigmen's pompous posts!if you want to look dumb after the game then by all means keep telling yourself i'm not townfuck off deanyou look dumb as fucki see zigmen fucked off:colbert:
no you said i called you an idiot for godkilling praying
Researched for a few minutes and found a few:
hey scum, thanks for killing me night1 so i didn't have to read any more of zigmen's pompous posts!if you want to look dumb after the game then by all means keep telling yourself i'm not townfuck off deanyou look dumb as fucki see zigmen fucked off:colbert:
no you said i called you an idiot for godkilling praying
Magicziggy
31st January 2012, 10:11 AM
I'm not a strong player in terms of reading "meta" - I really need lynch votes and contradictory statements and whatnot before I start feeling secure about my suspicions - but when Oblivion says this:
I'm curious to see if anyone else picks up on it. My meta on him may be out of date.And this:
may take a couple games to get my finely honed hair trigger snark backAnd this:
what do you make of Nostrum? I expected her to take a more measured approach after the last game. Too measured?
Or is that me projecting again? :rolleyes:And this:
Ordinarily I'd like the fact that she posted a fos of Jerome immediately after I voted him on the basis of thinking the same thing at the same point in the thread. but, this is the first time I've played in over 2 months, I think. I'm feeling a little unsure about feeling sure.It makes me nervous. It makes me think Oblivion - I mean Oblivion! - is laying on too thick a coat of advance oopsy.
Whoa.. That's some major joining of the dots.. Town points though.. I'd have been more impressed if you had voted based on this though
I'm curious to see if anyone else picks up on it. My meta on him may be out of date.And this:
may take a couple games to get my finely honed hair trigger snark backAnd this:
what do you make of Nostrum? I expected her to take a more measured approach after the last game. Too measured?
Or is that me projecting again? :rolleyes:And this:
Ordinarily I'd like the fact that she posted a fos of Jerome immediately after I voted him on the basis of thinking the same thing at the same point in the thread. but, this is the first time I've played in over 2 months, I think. I'm feeling a little unsure about feeling sure.It makes me nervous. It makes me think Oblivion - I mean Oblivion! - is laying on too thick a coat of advance oopsy.
Whoa.. That's some major joining of the dots.. Town points though.. I'd have been more impressed if you had voted based on this though
gib
31st January 2012, 10:15 AM
nostrum and ob, please post your lists at this stage so we can compare in postgame
nostrum
31st January 2012, 10:16 AM
Oops I had that nightson post in my multi-quote cache and forgot about it.
What I was going to say was, nightson you are right, that is something I do have a tendency to do. I'm trying to overcome that.
I've found your recent posts towny so I don't think your lynch is the best one.
Who do you think should be lynched?
I find that a hard question to answer at the moment. Not you I guess nostrum
Let's see, excluding the people who have given me any townie vibes however small, and excluding Elouise and borealis who haven't posted yet, gives me
Athene
Bolero
Cpt. Gender
Daphne Girl
Fuzzy fungi
MagicZiggy
Zigmen
I guess I'd just rather see someone on this list get lynched then someone off it.
@Gonzo - Are borealis and Elouise both playing, I think you said Elouise is earlier in thread, does that still hold?
Of your list, I have got townie vibes off bolero, CGI (kind of), fuzzy and zigmen. That leaves for me athene, daphne and MZ.
I'm still highly suspicious of gib, but I got him totally wrong last game and people so I'll back off for now.
At the moment I think the best bet for scum is [uv]gib[/ub]
daphne
What I was going to say was, nightson you are right, that is something I do have a tendency to do. I'm trying to overcome that.
I've found your recent posts towny so I don't think your lynch is the best one.
Who do you think should be lynched?
I find that a hard question to answer at the moment. Not you I guess nostrum
Let's see, excluding the people who have given me any townie vibes however small, and excluding Elouise and borealis who haven't posted yet, gives me
Athene
Bolero
Cpt. Gender
Daphne Girl
Fuzzy fungi
MagicZiggy
Zigmen
I guess I'd just rather see someone on this list get lynched then someone off it.
@Gonzo - Are borealis and Elouise both playing, I think you said Elouise is earlier in thread, does that still hold?
Of your list, I have got townie vibes off bolero, CGI (kind of), fuzzy and zigmen. That leaves for me athene, daphne and MZ.
I'm still highly suspicious of gib, but I got him totally wrong last game and people so I'll back off for now.
At the moment I think the best bet for scum is [uv]gib[/ub]
daphne
Magicziggy
31st January 2012, 10:17 AM
Oblivion asked Gib: Zigmen's post still the scummiest thing you've seen so far?
Gib replied: i have a good reason.
I would like to hear that good reason.
I would also like to hear this good reason.
Yep.. I'm all ears
Gib replied: i have a good reason.
I would like to hear that good reason.
I would also like to hear this good reason.
Yep.. I'm all ears
nostrum
31st January 2012, 10:17 AM
xpost central
gib
31st January 2012, 10:18 AM
Nightson, you have any opinions about other players?
that was exactly my thought on reading nightson's post
Thus scurrying behind Ob like a little puppy 'yes tooing' is starting to bother me:
...
Gib
so when did this implied series of yestooing start?
jerome did you answer this, if not why not?
that was exactly my thought on reading nightson's post
Thus scurrying behind Ob like a little puppy 'yes tooing' is starting to bother me:
...
Gib
so when did this implied series of yestooing start?
jerome did you answer this, if not why not?
Magicziggy
31st January 2012, 10:19 AM
ah, missed your answer to amok.
I accept your apology!
Shit I missed it to.. What was it?
I accept your apology!
Shit I missed it to.. What was it?
gib
31st January 2012, 10:19 AM
Wow Gib, you have 'confident' town reads on a third of the players just 24 hours into Day 1.
Do you have any reads thus far Jerome that you would like to share?
did he answer this one?
Do you have any reads thus far Jerome that you would like to share?
did he answer this one?
gib
31st January 2012, 10:22 AM
I typed this two hours ago but couldn't post it then. Didn't think it would still be relevant now but there you go, two hours, one post.
"Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome on day one in the GitS game at FF. And they both did it early before the wagon even got rolling. So yes, Ob will bus and she will bus early. End derail?"
lol yes I did in that game. and in the last game I played at ratz. what I won't do as scum is use the same gambit in every game.
I'm going to be :hehe:if you and jerome in fact both ended up as scum, considering recent events
But... jerome has posted some towny stuff in the past 12 or so hours i know. hence my unvote.
i don't think i can follow a gib vote today. not based on what I've noticed so far.
have you opined on nightson?
Yes, I'm finding him scummy. I don't really buy that anyone could really believe I was defensive toward CGI. But he might be using the old 'poke her with a stick and accuse her of being defensive and see how she reacts' technique, so his true reason might be OK. I thought his posted considerations thus far were pretty lame (and nearly posted such, but decided not to.) According to him, I'm the only scummy player in the game thus far :unsure:
But, because he has a vote on me, I will take extra care not to form a trolley track on him. And I think if he were scum he'd actually be making an effort to blend in... kind of more like daphne and gib, say.
Speaking of gib... what do you make of him now having a town read on you? Doesn't it strike you as a little too eager to please, given my and athene's questioning of him on that very topic (note both me and athene make his scum list lol)
please unpack that last paragraph for me
"Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome on day one in the GitS game at FF. And they both did it early before the wagon even got rolling. So yes, Ob will bus and she will bus early. End derail?"
lol yes I did in that game. and in the last game I played at ratz. what I won't do as scum is use the same gambit in every game.
I'm going to be :hehe:if you and jerome in fact both ended up as scum, considering recent events
But... jerome has posted some towny stuff in the past 12 or so hours i know. hence my unvote.
i don't think i can follow a gib vote today. not based on what I've noticed so far.
have you opined on nightson?
Yes, I'm finding him scummy. I don't really buy that anyone could really believe I was defensive toward CGI. But he might be using the old 'poke her with a stick and accuse her of being defensive and see how she reacts' technique, so his true reason might be OK. I thought his posted considerations thus far were pretty lame (and nearly posted such, but decided not to.) According to him, I'm the only scummy player in the game thus far :unsure:
But, because he has a vote on me, I will take extra care not to form a trolley track on him. And I think if he were scum he'd actually be making an effort to blend in... kind of more like daphne and gib, say.
Speaking of gib... what do you make of him now having a town read on you? Doesn't it strike you as a little too eager to please, given my and athene's questioning of him on that very topic (note both me and athene make his scum list lol)
please unpack that last paragraph for me
Linus
31st January 2012, 10:23 AM
I've just re-read Nightson's posts in chronological order. I need to ask (anyone) if it's a fair representation that he doesn't in general give explanations beyond "I think they're Scum" for his lynch votes.
If it is true, what else is there that's pinging for people? I don't see it.
Also, Oblivion, have you rethought your initial opinion of Linus? Whatever it was in his first post.
Linus, can you please explain your use of "stronger belief" here:
Two interaction reads: 1. Stronger belief that at most one of gib and cgi are scum. 2. Stronger belief that at most one of jerome and bolero are scum.I couldn't find a reference point to understand the "stronger" bit.
Stronger than what it was before I observed their interaction.
Regarding nightson, I can believe he's the sort of player who doesn't give reasons to vote. Personally, I have him roughly in the middle of the pack.
If it is true, what else is there that's pinging for people? I don't see it.
Also, Oblivion, have you rethought your initial opinion of Linus? Whatever it was in his first post.
Linus, can you please explain your use of "stronger belief" here:
Two interaction reads: 1. Stronger belief that at most one of gib and cgi are scum. 2. Stronger belief that at most one of jerome and bolero are scum.I couldn't find a reference point to understand the "stronger" bit.
Stronger than what it was before I observed their interaction.
Regarding nightson, I can believe he's the sort of player who doesn't give reasons to vote. Personally, I have him roughly in the middle of the pack.
gib
31st January 2012, 10:24 AM
Nostrum...
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
what was the purpose of this post, what motivated you to make it?
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
what was the purpose of this post, what motivated you to make it?
Magicziggy
31st January 2012, 10:24 AM
right this moment I'm thinking daphne would make a good lynch but I want inputs pls
Really? I think it would be good to follow this through. I'm assuming you vote for her later
Really? I think it would be good to follow this through. I'm assuming you vote for her later
nostrum
31st January 2012, 10:26 AM
nostrum and ob, please post your lists at this stage so we can compare in postgame
Heh I take my vote off you and see you posted this in xpost. I think good call to unvote you.
OK
obviously unknown: borealis, elouise
towny: ade, amok, bolero, fuzzy, nightson
unsure: athene, gib, jerome, linus, zigmen, ob, cgi
scummy: daphne, MZ
Your list?
Heh I take my vote off you and see you posted this in xpost. I think good call to unvote you.
OK
obviously unknown: borealis, elouise
towny: ade, amok, bolero, fuzzy, nightson
unsure: athene, gib, jerome, linus, zigmen, ob, cgi
scummy: daphne, MZ
Your list?
gib
31st January 2012, 10:27 AM
Did you see what she said about Daphne's long post? What did you think of that?
She said it was a recap, which is fair. It was suspicious that there was no read on nostrum or raven, which I think is bad reasoning but doesn't strike me as scummy. And that Daphne doesn't usually have so many scum suspects, which would be useful to look up and compare her town and scum games for, I have no idea how true it is off the top of my head. Does sort of feel like genuine scum hunting on Nostrums part.
you thought it was suspicious but it doesn't strike you as scummy. Please explain the subtle difference between suspucious and scummy for me.
She said it was a recap, which is fair. It was suspicious that there was no read on nostrum or raven, which I think is bad reasoning but doesn't strike me as scummy. And that Daphne doesn't usually have so many scum suspects, which would be useful to look up and compare her town and scum games for, I have no idea how true it is off the top of my head. Does sort of feel like genuine scum hunting on Nostrums part.
you thought it was suspicious but it doesn't strike you as scummy. Please explain the subtle difference between suspucious and scummy for me.
nostrum
31st January 2012, 10:27 AM
right this moment I'm thinking daphne would make a good lynch but I want inputs pls
Really? I think it would be good to follow this through. I'm assuming you vote for her later
Please refer post #399
Really? I think it would be good to follow this through. I'm assuming you vote for her later
Please refer post #399
Magicziggy
31st January 2012, 10:28 AM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
nostrum
31st January 2012, 10:28 AM
Nostrum...
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
what was the purpose of this post, what motivated you to make it?
What is the basis of ob landing in your town pile, gib?
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
what was the purpose of this post, what motivated you to make it?
What is the basis of ob landing in your town pile, gib?
Linus
31st January 2012, 10:29 AM
Aden going after me is a town tell for him I think, always seems to happen when he's town, but goes after lower hanging fruit when scum.
Why did you leave the hook lying for so long? What did you learn from it?
Nostrum has always had a pretty strong defensive OMGUS reaction in my mind. She's toned that down and has now posted that's on purpose. I'm still not sure what to make of her.
My absence wasn't some sort of ploy, I was just sort of busy so I put this game on the backburner since I'd have plenty of time to be around before nightfall.
FWIW, I agree with nostrum that your characterization of her as defensive to cgi's early vote is at best debatable. When you put your vote on nostrum I wondered to myself if it was a reaction to her mayor vote.
Why did you leave the hook lying for so long? What did you learn from it?
Nostrum has always had a pretty strong defensive OMGUS reaction in my mind. She's toned that down and has now posted that's on purpose. I'm still not sure what to make of her.
My absence wasn't some sort of ploy, I was just sort of busy so I put this game on the backburner since I'd have plenty of time to be around before nightfall.
FWIW, I agree with nostrum that your characterization of her as defensive to cgi's early vote is at best debatable. When you put your vote on nostrum I wondered to myself if it was a reaction to her mayor vote.
nostrum
31st January 2012, 10:31 AM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
...all those scummy people yet she doesn't put down a vote? :unsure:
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
...all those scummy people yet she doesn't put down a vote? :unsure:
Linus
31st January 2012, 10:32 AM
##Unvote##
I reread Athene's posts in context and she looks ok.
I don't follow this. When you put your vote on her, she had only made two posts, checking in and saying she had no read on gib.
I reread Athene's posts in context and she looks ok.
I don't follow this. When you put your vote on her, she had only made two posts, checking in and saying she had no read on gib.
gib
31st January 2012, 10:33 AM
ah, missed your answer to amok.
I accept your apology!
Shit I missed it to.. What was it?
pressuring zigmen to see if he went all emo, he did so he's looking p clear
I accept your apology!
Shit I missed it to.. What was it?
pressuring zigmen to see if he went all emo, he did so he's looking p clear
gib
31st January 2012, 10:35 AM
nostrum and ob, please post your lists at this stage so we can compare in postgame
Heh I take my vote off you and see you posted this in xpost. I think good call to unvote you.
OK
obviously unknown: borealis, elouise
towny: ade, amok, bolero, fuzzy, nightson
unsure: athene, gib, jerome, linus, zigmen, ob, cgi
scummy: daphne, MZ
Your list?
posted it earlier
i'd be surprised if daphne is scum
Heh I take my vote off you and see you posted this in xpost. I think good call to unvote you.
OK
obviously unknown: borealis, elouise
towny: ade, amok, bolero, fuzzy, nightson
unsure: athene, gib, jerome, linus, zigmen, ob, cgi
scummy: daphne, MZ
Your list?
posted it earlier
i'd be surprised if daphne is scum
gib
31st January 2012, 10:36 AM
dont see why mz looks scummy to u either
Magicziggy
31st January 2012, 10:37 AM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
i think daphne is wrong about fuzzy who looks town to me but the rest of it matched my thoughts p closely which has me leaning town on daphne
The more I see of fuzzy...the less I'm inclined to call him town. I mean that across several games. Gib what makes you think fuzzy is town. Has he ever fooled you?
i think daphne is wrong about fuzzy who looks town to me but the rest of it matched my thoughts p closely which has me leaning town on daphne
The more I see of fuzzy...the less I'm inclined to call him town. I mean that across several games. Gib what makes you think fuzzy is town. Has he ever fooled you?
Linus
31st January 2012, 10:37 AM
I still haven't seen what I was expecting to see from him long before now. So I'm suspicious of him. But, I'm considering the town reads that others have. They can't all be scum.
You won't, I have resolved to ask fewer questions than I normally do, it will require some practice to find a replacement for neutral questions.
As for amok's question to you, she may have been (also?) asking you about your "hmm" post that occurred in close proximity to my first post.
You won't, I have resolved to ask fewer questions than I normally do, it will require some practice to find a replacement for neutral questions.
As for amok's question to you, she may have been (also?) asking you about your "hmm" post that occurred in close proximity to my first post.
nostrum
31st January 2012, 10:38 AM
I typed this two hours ago but couldn't post it then. Didn't think it would still be relevant now but there you go, two hours, one post.
"Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome on day one in the GitS game at FF. And they both did it early before the wagon even got rolling. So yes, Ob will bus and she will bus early. End derail?"
lol yes I did in that game. and in the last game I played at ratz. what I won't do as scum is use the same gambit in every game.
I'm going to be :hehe:if you and jerome in fact both ended up as scum, considering recent events
But... jerome has posted some towny stuff in the past 12 or so hours i know. hence my unvote.
i don't think i can follow a gib vote today. not based on what I've noticed so far.
have you opined on nightson?
Yes, I'm finding him scummy. I don't really buy that anyone could really believe I was defensive toward CGI. But he might be using the old 'poke her with a stick and accuse her of being defensive and see how she reacts' technique, so his true reason might be OK. I thought his posted considerations thus far were pretty lame (and nearly posted such, but decided not to.) According to him, I'm the only scummy player in the game thus far :unsure:
But, because he has a vote on me, I will take extra care not to form a trolley track on him. And I think if he were scum he'd actually be making an effort to blend in... kind of more like daphne and gib, say.
Speaking of gib... what do you make of him now having a town read on you? Doesn't it strike you as a little too eager to please, given my and athene's questioning of him on that very topic (note both me and athene make his scum list lol)
please unpack that last paragraph for me
Gib you asked: please unpack that last paragraph for me
I think you have been putting out feelers to start up some form of triangulation this game which we all know as town you do and thus as scum you'd need to be seen doing (diva, daphne - yes I know you deny doing that to both) yet you skirted well clear of oblivion, even though she was around and available and after initially being suspicious of you she put you in her towny pile. Meanwhile, both athene and I have wondered about you, with your stated reticence to work with her and to find her at all towny. And then, you post a list and ob is magically on the towny pile. Where did that come from? What was the basis of it?
My point was that it seemed to me that you realised that you were looking bad for avoiding ob thus all of a sudden you decide to find her towny. My question was to her about how she felt about your turn-around.
I've already asked you the basis for your turn-around.
"Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome on day one in the GitS game at FF. And they both did it early before the wagon even got rolling. So yes, Ob will bus and she will bus early. End derail?"
lol yes I did in that game. and in the last game I played at ratz. what I won't do as scum is use the same gambit in every game.
I'm going to be :hehe:if you and jerome in fact both ended up as scum, considering recent events
But... jerome has posted some towny stuff in the past 12 or so hours i know. hence my unvote.
i don't think i can follow a gib vote today. not based on what I've noticed so far.
have you opined on nightson?
Yes, I'm finding him scummy. I don't really buy that anyone could really believe I was defensive toward CGI. But he might be using the old 'poke her with a stick and accuse her of being defensive and see how she reacts' technique, so his true reason might be OK. I thought his posted considerations thus far were pretty lame (and nearly posted such, but decided not to.) According to him, I'm the only scummy player in the game thus far :unsure:
But, because he has a vote on me, I will take extra care not to form a trolley track on him. And I think if he were scum he'd actually be making an effort to blend in... kind of more like daphne and gib, say.
Speaking of gib... what do you make of him now having a town read on you? Doesn't it strike you as a little too eager to please, given my and athene's questioning of him on that very topic (note both me and athene make his scum list lol)
please unpack that last paragraph for me
Gib you asked: please unpack that last paragraph for me
I think you have been putting out feelers to start up some form of triangulation this game which we all know as town you do and thus as scum you'd need to be seen doing (diva, daphne - yes I know you deny doing that to both) yet you skirted well clear of oblivion, even though she was around and available and after initially being suspicious of you she put you in her towny pile. Meanwhile, both athene and I have wondered about you, with your stated reticence to work with her and to find her at all towny. And then, you post a list and ob is magically on the towny pile. Where did that come from? What was the basis of it?
My point was that it seemed to me that you realised that you were looking bad for avoiding ob thus all of a sudden you decide to find her towny. My question was to her about how she felt about your turn-around.
I've already asked you the basis for your turn-around.
gib
31st January 2012, 10:39 AM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
good point about avoiding a repeat. I'm leaning town on her because her list matched mine at the time p closely. Therefore it's much more likely she is town, it's possible a scum could come up with a list i'd like to see but much more unlikely they would do that and score so many matches
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
good point about avoiding a repeat. I'm leaning town on her because her list matched mine at the time p closely. Therefore it's much more likely she is town, it's possible a scum could come up with a list i'd like to see but much more unlikely they would do that and score so many matches
gib
31st January 2012, 10:42 AM
Nostrum...
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
what was the purpose of this post, what motivated you to make it?
What is the basis of ob landing in your town pile, gib?
she keeps mentioning my kids and if she's using them as scum cover i will go fucking ballistic
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
what was the purpose of this post, what motivated you to make it?
What is the basis of ob landing in your town pile, gib?
she keeps mentioning my kids and if she's using them as scum cover i will go fucking ballistic
nostrum
31st January 2012, 10:44 AM
dont see why mz looks scummy to u either
interesting
please outline why I look scummy to you
Plus, you don't have an updated list? No one has moved to a different pile since your last list?
While you're at it, outline your case on athene
interesting
please outline why I look scummy to you
Plus, you don't have an updated list? No one has moved to a different pile since your last list?
While you're at it, outline your case on athene
Linus
31st January 2012, 10:44 AM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
How would you characterize her scum game?
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
How would you characterize her scum game?
nostrum
31st January 2012, 10:46 AM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
good point about avoiding a repeat. I'm leaning town on her because her list matched mine at the time p closely. Therefore it's much more likely she is town, it's possible a scum could come up with a list i'd like to see but much more unlikely they would do that and score so many matches
Really? You didn't have fuzzy, nightson and cgi on your scum list, so the only scum matches are jerome and bolero, right? And, she had no read on me or ob, yet you have me on your scum list and ob on your town list. I can't see how your lists match so closely at all :unsure:
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
good point about avoiding a repeat. I'm leaning town on her because her list matched mine at the time p closely. Therefore it's much more likely she is town, it's possible a scum could come up with a list i'd like to see but much more unlikely they would do that and score so many matches
Really? You didn't have fuzzy, nightson and cgi on your scum list, so the only scum matches are jerome and bolero, right? And, she had no read on me or ob, yet you have me on your scum list and ob on your town list. I can't see how your lists match so closely at all :unsure:
Magicziggy
31st January 2012, 10:48 AM
Nostrum...
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
Interesting..
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
Interesting..
nostrum
31st January 2012, 10:49 AM
What is interesting to me is that bolero appears to be 'low hanging fruit' this game. Who is listing her as scum? gib, daphne. Who is actually voting for her? Zigmen.
nostrum
31st January 2012, 10:50 AM
Nostrum...
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
Interesting..
An updated list from you would be handy right about now, MZ
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
Interesting..
An updated list from you would be handy right about now, MZ
nostrum
31st January 2012, 10:51 AM
Nostrum...
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
what was the purpose of this post, what motivated you to make it?
What is the basis of ob landing in your town pile, gib?
she keeps mentioning my kids and if she's using them as scum cover i will go fucking ballistic
Hmm ok, so you're using a big meta call on her to read her as firmly town. So why the questioning of her about wanting to believe you are town?
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
what was the purpose of this post, what motivated you to make it?
What is the basis of ob landing in your town pile, gib?
she keeps mentioning my kids and if she's using them as scum cover i will go fucking ballistic
Hmm ok, so you're using a big meta call on her to read her as firmly town. So why the questioning of her about wanting to believe you are town?
Linus
31st January 2012, 10:59 AM
Let's not forget about Elouise. AFAICT she didn't actually sign up, but taking Gonzo at his word that she's really playing, there's probably something that can be inferred from her complete absence.
nostrum
31st January 2012, 10:59 AM
Gotta sleep. Don't forget to answer my question, Nostrum.
I had a 5 minute search on ratz before I couldn't be assed any longer (I don't even post there or visit there any more). It could just have easily been TR. I don't have a photographic mafia memory like ob, so I can't just pull a game out. I stand by my post, though if you're going to find your memory differs then I'm happy to drop it (by 'it' I mean finding the game when as scum you decided to hone on me on day 1... I am 99% certain such a game record exists.) As for just deciding to find me suspicious on day 1, well it's something I've come to expect from you.
I had a 5 minute search on ratz before I couldn't be assed any longer (I don't even post there or visit there any more). It could just have easily been TR. I don't have a photographic mafia memory like ob, so I can't just pull a game out. I stand by my post, though if you're going to find your memory differs then I'm happy to drop it (by 'it' I mean finding the game when as scum you decided to hone on me on day 1... I am 99% certain such a game record exists.) As for just deciding to find me suspicious on day 1, well it's something I've come to expect from you.
nostrum
31st January 2012, 10:59 AM
Let's not forget about Elouise. AFAICT she didn't actually sign up, but taking Gonzo at his word that she's really playing, there's probably something that can be inferred from her complete absence.
Yes.
Yes.
nostrum
31st January 2012, 11:01 AM
Let's not forget about Elouise. AFAICT she didn't actually sign up, but taking Gonzo at his word that she's really playing, there's probably something that can be inferred from her complete absence.
Yes.
Actually, I replied too quickly, I thought you were saying something else. I'm not assuming gonzo has told us she is in fact really playing. I thought you were saying that she probably isn't playing this game at all.
Yes.
Actually, I replied too quickly, I thought you were saying something else. I'm not assuming gonzo has told us she is in fact really playing. I thought you were saying that she probably isn't playing this game at all.
Magicziggy
31st January 2012, 11:02 AM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
How would you characterize her scum game?
Having seen it precisely once.. It was very very good. I decided to view her night 1 based on raising Jerome as a possible alternate lynch at the last minute when scum in fact got lynched. I sat on that view for a day.But ask nostrum what she thinks of Daphne's scum game. She voted the seer over the viewed scum. I had waited for her wot and then outed. I just think she'd avoid a repeat.
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
How would you characterize her scum game?
Having seen it precisely once.. It was very very good. I decided to view her night 1 based on raising Jerome as a possible alternate lynch at the last minute when scum in fact got lynched. I sat on that view for a day.But ask nostrum what she thinks of Daphne's scum game. She voted the seer over the viewed scum. I had waited for her wot and then outed. I just think she'd avoid a repeat.
Magicziggy
31st January 2012, 11:04 AM
Nostrum...
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
Interesting..
An updated list from you would be handy right about now, MZ
Yep.. It's coming.. patience
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
Interesting..
An updated list from you would be handy right about now, MZ
Yep.. It's coming.. patience
Bolero
31st January 2012, 11:04 AM
My day 1 gut feelings, FWIW (bearing in mind that I've gone back and forth a fair bit, as many of us have):
Leaning town - Aden, oblivion, gib, amok, nostrum
Leaning scum -
Linus (can't get that mayor vote on me out of my mind...don't understand it, other than perhaps as a scum move to avoid putting a mayor vote on one of their own, or on a more experienced, competent town player);
Jerome (acting like he did last game when he was scum);
CGI (not in here telling us we're all idiots);
Zigmen (defensive as fuck)
No idea - Athene, borealis, Daphne, Elouise, Fuzzy, MZ, Nightson
Leaning town - Aden, oblivion, gib, amok, nostrum
Leaning scum -
Linus (can't get that mayor vote on me out of my mind...don't understand it, other than perhaps as a scum move to avoid putting a mayor vote on one of their own, or on a more experienced, competent town player);
Jerome (acting like he did last game when he was scum);
CGI (not in here telling us we're all idiots);
Zigmen (defensive as fuck)
No idea - Athene, borealis, Daphne, Elouise, Fuzzy, MZ, Nightson
Linus
31st January 2012, 11:07 AM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
How would you characterize her scum game?
Having seen it precisely once.. It was very very good. I decided to view her night 1 based on raising Jerome as a possible alternate lynch at the last minute when scum in fact got lynched. I sat on that view for a day.But ask nostrum what she thinks of Daphne's scum game. She voted the seer over the viewed scum. I had waited for her wot and then outed. I just think she'd avoid a repeat.
It's unclear to me what precisely you think it is Daphne wouldn't want to repeat. Risk incriminating scum buddies by posting a WoT?
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
How would you characterize her scum game?
Having seen it precisely once.. It was very very good. I decided to view her night 1 based on raising Jerome as a possible alternate lynch at the last minute when scum in fact got lynched. I sat on that view for a day.But ask nostrum what she thinks of Daphne's scum game. She voted the seer over the viewed scum. I had waited for her wot and then outed. I just think she'd avoid a repeat.
It's unclear to me what precisely you think it is Daphne wouldn't want to repeat. Risk incriminating scum buddies by posting a WoT?
Bolero
31st January 2012, 11:07 AM
What is interesting to me is that bolero appears to be 'low hanging fruit' this game. Who is listing her as scum? gib, daphne. Who is actually voting for her? Zigmen.
Sorry, what's low-hanging fruit? Easy target? Hells yeah, I am. Which is why I am not sus of people saying I am leaning town ... scum could easily pick me off today.
Sorry, what's low-hanging fruit? Easy target? Hells yeah, I am. Which is why I am not sus of people saying I am leaning town ... scum could easily pick me off today.
Magicziggy
31st January 2012, 11:14 AM
01 Adenosine - town
02 Athene - neutral
03 amok - neutral
04 Bolero - town
05 borealis - no show
06 Cpt. Gender - neutral/ town
07 Daphne Girl - town
08 Elouise - neutral
09 Fuzzy fungi - neutral
10 gib - scum
11 Jerome - scum
12 Linus - scum
14 Nightson - town
15 nostrum - town
16 oblivion - scum
17 Zigmen - town
That's where we're at. The thing is I don't think gib and oblivion are both scum but they are both in my scum pile. I'm happy to lynch any of the four I have listed as scum. How long till nightfall?
02 Athene - neutral
03 amok - neutral
04 Bolero - town
05 borealis - no show
06 Cpt. Gender - neutral/ town
07 Daphne Girl - town
08 Elouise - neutral
09 Fuzzy fungi - neutral
10 gib - scum
11 Jerome - scum
12 Linus - scum
14 Nightson - town
15 nostrum - town
16 oblivion - scum
17 Zigmen - town
That's where we're at. The thing is I don't think gib and oblivion are both scum but they are both in my scum pile. I'm happy to lynch any of the four I have listed as scum. How long till nightfall?
Magicziggy
31st January 2012, 11:17 AM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
How would you characterize her scum game?
Having seen it precisely once.. It was very very good. I decided to view her night 1 based on raising Jerome as a possible alternate lynch at the last minute when scum in fact got lynched. I sat on that view for a day.But ask nostrum what she thinks of Daphne's scum game. She voted the seer over the viewed scum. I had waited for her wot and then outed. I just think she'd avoid a repeat.
It's unclear to me what precisely you think it is Daphne wouldn't want to repeat. Risk incriminating scum buddies by posting a WoT?
I've only ever remember that WoT in her scum game. And it was rather painful for her to post that and then get outed as scum.
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
How would you characterize her scum game?
Having seen it precisely once.. It was very very good. I decided to view her night 1 based on raising Jerome as a possible alternate lynch at the last minute when scum in fact got lynched. I sat on that view for a day.But ask nostrum what she thinks of Daphne's scum game. She voted the seer over the viewed scum. I had waited for her wot and then outed. I just think she'd avoid a repeat.
It's unclear to me what precisely you think it is Daphne wouldn't want to repeat. Risk incriminating scum buddies by posting a WoT?
I've only ever remember that WoT in her scum game. And it was rather painful for her to post that and then get outed as scum.
Magicziggy
31st January 2012, 11:17 AM
Elouise is no show of course
Linus
31st January 2012, 11:20 AM
daphne; vote oblivion
I don't like the combination of #35 and #66.
I don't like the combination of #35 and #66.
Nightson
31st January 2012, 11:21 AM
Did you see what she said about Daphne's long post? What did you think of that?
She said it was a recap, which is fair. It was suspicious that there was no read on nostrum or raven, which I think is bad reasoning but doesn't strike me as scummy. And that Daphne doesn't usually have so many scum suspects, which would be useful to look up and compare her town and scum games for, I have no idea how true it is off the top of my head. Does sort of feel like genuine scum hunting on Nostrums part.
you thought it was suspicious but it doesn't strike you as scummy. Please explain the subtle difference between suspucious and scummy for me.
The first part of each sentence is what Nostrum said which is followed by my thoughts on it. The formatting is less then stellar because of phoneposting.
She said it was a recap, which is fair. It was suspicious that there was no read on nostrum or raven, which I think is bad reasoning but doesn't strike me as scummy. And that Daphne doesn't usually have so many scum suspects, which would be useful to look up and compare her town and scum games for, I have no idea how true it is off the top of my head. Does sort of feel like genuine scum hunting on Nostrums part.
you thought it was suspicious but it doesn't strike you as scummy. Please explain the subtle difference between suspucious and scummy for me.
The first part of each sentence is what Nostrum said which is followed by my thoughts on it. The formatting is less then stellar because of phoneposting.
Nightson
31st January 2012, 11:25 AM
What is interesting to me is that bolero appears to be 'low hanging fruit' this game. Who is listing her as scum? gib, daphne. Who is actually voting for her? Zigmen.
Sorry, what's low-hanging fruit? Easy target? Hells yeah, I am. Which is why I am not sus of people saying I am leaning town ... scum could easily pick me off today.
Easy targets are easy targets because it's easier to get town to vote for them too.
Sorry, what's low-hanging fruit? Easy target? Hells yeah, I am. Which is why I am not sus of people saying I am leaning town ... scum could easily pick me off today.
Easy targets are easy targets because it's easier to get town to vote for them too.
Bolero
31st January 2012, 11:26 AM
Sorry folks, but wot's a WoT? I'm fairly sure it's not Wheel of Time, but I can't parse it in the mafia context.
Bolero
31st January 2012, 11:30 AM
What is interesting to me is that bolero appears to be 'low hanging fruit' this game. Who is listing her as scum? gib, daphne. Who is actually voting for her? Zigmen.
Sorry, what's low-hanging fruit? Easy target? Hells yeah, I am. Which is why I am not sus of people saying I am leaning town ... scum could easily pick me off today.
Easy targets are easy targets because it's easier to get town to vote for them too.
Of course. That's what I mean by "pick me off". It would be scum team suicide to all vote for the same player at this stage in the game.
Sorry, what's low-hanging fruit? Easy target? Hells yeah, I am. Which is why I am not sus of people saying I am leaning town ... scum could easily pick me off today.
Easy targets are easy targets because it's easier to get town to vote for them too.
Of course. That's what I mean by "pick me off". It would be scum team suicide to all vote for the same player at this stage in the game.
Nightson
31st January 2012, 11:32 AM
Alright, I'm going to sleep now. If nightfall is exactly 48 hours after the OP then I won't be up in time for it.
Daphnegirl
Daphnegirl
Bolero
31st January 2012, 11:46 AM
It's been (and will continue to be for a while yet) a really looooong Day 1, so I am starting to get more and more suspicious of people who haven't posted much yet. It seems like a scum tactic to lay low and let town eat itself.
Adenosine
31st January 2012, 11:49 AM
Sorry folks, but wot's a WoT? I'm fairly sure it's not Wheel of Time, but I can't parse it in the mafia context.
Wall of text.
Wall of text.
Bolero
31st January 2012, 11:50 AM
Sorry folks, but wot's a WoT? I'm fairly sure it's not Wheel of Time, but I can't parse it in the mafia context.
Wall of text.
Ah. Cheers, Aden. Makes more sense now.
Wall of text.
Ah. Cheers, Aden. Makes more sense now.
Cpt. Gender Injustice
31st January 2012, 11:50 AM
i'd be surprised if daphne is scum
she has this strategy of waiting around and only voting at the last mnute when everything is offered on a silver platter, it drove me crazy in the TR game, it must stop.
daphne get in here and defend yourself, post some thoughts.
she has this strategy of waiting around and only voting at the last mnute when everything is offered on a silver platter, it drove me crazy in the TR game, it must stop.
daphne get in here and defend yourself, post some thoughts.
Cpt. Gender Injustice
31st January 2012, 11:51 AM
CGI (not in here telling us we're all idiots);
that only happens when you disagree with me. right now my daphne bandwagon is in the lead.
that only happens when you disagree with me. right now my daphne bandwagon is in the lead.
Bolero
31st January 2012, 11:54 AM
i'd be surprised if daphne is scum
she has this strategy of waiting around and only voting at the last mnute when everything is offered on a silver platter, it drove me crazy in the TR game, it must stop.
Is this her strategy as scum or as town? Or both?
she has this strategy of waiting around and only voting at the last mnute when everything is offered on a silver platter, it drove me crazy in the TR game, it must stop.
Is this her strategy as scum or as town? Or both?
Cpt. Gender Injustice
31st January 2012, 11:58 AM
i'd be surprised if daphne is scum
she has this strategy of waiting around and only voting at the last mnute when everything is offered on a silver platter, it drove me crazy in the TR game, it must stop.
Is this her strategy as scum or as town? Or both?
both.
she has this strategy of waiting around and only voting at the last mnute when everything is offered on a silver platter, it drove me crazy in the TR game, it must stop.
Is this her strategy as scum or as town? Or both?
both.
Cpt. Gender Injustice
31st January 2012, 12:00 PM
it's not a good strategy because as town she looks suspicious, and as scum it's easier to put a vote and post suspects when you know what people already think.
Linus
31st January 2012, 12:00 PM
MZ's point about Daphne and WoTs isn't convincing in itself, but increases my confidence that at most one of them is scum.
Bolero
31st January 2012, 12:10 PM
Well, I really have to hit the proverbial hessian bag, folks. I'm happy for a Jerome lynch, but if it goes Daphne, I can't complain, as I have nothing on her at this stage, while others seem to have strong feelings.
Catch you all in the nightchat.
Catch you all in the nightchat.
nostrum
31st January 2012, 12:17 PM
Bed time for me, too. If daphne is town and comes and posts and satisfactorily explains her looooong list of scum but no vote, then I'm sure some other BW will get up. Otherwise, she deserves to be lynched. I'm happy with my vote on her, she and gib are fair screaming scum to me right now. Alas the gib BW doesn't seem capable of having legs for the moment.
oblivion
31st January 2012, 12:36 PM
Nostrum...
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
what was the purpose of this post, what motivated you to make it?
I was answering the following - specifically the last paragraph. I was on the tablet at the time, and doing a partial quote would have taken a pile of time and effort. So, I didn't.
I typed this two hours ago but couldn't post it then. Didn't think it would still be relevant now but there you go, two hours, one post.
"Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome on day one in the GitS game at FF. And they both did it early before the wagon even got rolling. So yes, Ob will bus and she will bus early. End derail?"
lol yes I did in that game. and in the last game I played at ratz. what I won't do as scum is use the same gambit in every game.
I'm going to be :hehe:if you and jerome in fact both ended up as scum, considering recent events
But... jerome has posted some towny stuff in the past 12 or so hours i know. hence my unvote.
i don't think i can follow a gib vote today. not based on what I've noticed so far.
have you opined on nightson?
Yes, I'm finding him scummy. I don't really buy that anyone could really believe I was defensive toward CGI. But he might be using the old 'poke her with a stick and accuse her of being defensive and see how she reacts' technique, so his true reason might be OK. I thought his posted considerations thus far were pretty lame (and nearly posted such, but decided not to.) According to him, I'm the only scummy player in the game thus far :unsure:
But, because he has a vote on me, I will take extra care not to form a trolley track on him. And I think if he were scum he'd actually be making an effort to blend in... kind of more like daphne and gib, say.
Speaking of gib... what do you make of him now having a town read on you? Doesn't it strike you as a little too eager to please, given my and athene's questioning of him on that very topic (note both me and athene make his scum list lol)
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
what was the purpose of this post, what motivated you to make it?
I was answering the following - specifically the last paragraph. I was on the tablet at the time, and doing a partial quote would have taken a pile of time and effort. So, I didn't.
I typed this two hours ago but couldn't post it then. Didn't think it would still be relevant now but there you go, two hours, one post.
"Ob and Gonzo bussed Jerome on day one in the GitS game at FF. And they both did it early before the wagon even got rolling. So yes, Ob will bus and she will bus early. End derail?"
lol yes I did in that game. and in the last game I played at ratz. what I won't do as scum is use the same gambit in every game.
I'm going to be :hehe:if you and jerome in fact both ended up as scum, considering recent events
But... jerome has posted some towny stuff in the past 12 or so hours i know. hence my unvote.
i don't think i can follow a gib vote today. not based on what I've noticed so far.
have you opined on nightson?
Yes, I'm finding him scummy. I don't really buy that anyone could really believe I was defensive toward CGI. But he might be using the old 'poke her with a stick and accuse her of being defensive and see how she reacts' technique, so his true reason might be OK. I thought his posted considerations thus far were pretty lame (and nearly posted such, but decided not to.) According to him, I'm the only scummy player in the game thus far :unsure:
But, because he has a vote on me, I will take extra care not to form a trolley track on him. And I think if he were scum he'd actually be making an effort to blend in... kind of more like daphne and gib, say.
Speaking of gib... what do you make of him now having a town read on you? Doesn't it strike you as a little too eager to please, given my and athene's questioning of him on that very topic (note both me and athene make his scum list lol)
oblivion
31st January 2012, 12:39 PM
zigmen what as the game here i called you an idiot, this is bugging me now
Researched for a few minutes and found a few:
hey scum, thanks for killing me night1 so i didn't have to read any more of zigmen's pompous posts!if you want to look dumb after the game then by all means keep telling yourself i'm not townfuck off deanyou look dumb as fucki see zigmen fucked off:colbert:
no you said i called you an idiot for godkilling praying
Ahhh...did not catch that last night when he was around. Yeah. I went and looked at the game where he godkilled praying yesterday. You did not give him any shit over the godkill.
Researched for a few minutes and found a few:
hey scum, thanks for killing me night1 so i didn't have to read any more of zigmen's pompous posts!if you want to look dumb after the game then by all means keep telling yourself i'm not townfuck off deanyou look dumb as fucki see zigmen fucked off:colbert:
no you said i called you an idiot for godkilling praying
Ahhh...did not catch that last night when he was around. Yeah. I went and looked at the game where he godkilled praying yesterday. You did not give him any shit over the godkill.
Daphne Girl
31st January 2012, 12:44 PM
I woke up about an hour ago, just got one kid to school, and still need to get two more out the door. I will post as soon as I do and catch up on the thread.
Adenosine
31st January 2012, 12:44 PM
I don't think Nightson is scummy any more. I like his explanation and subsequent play. Not willing to lynch bolero either. Or ob or gib. No idea why anyone is suspicious of gib. His seems like solid town play.
I have no scummy pile, just a lot of unsures.
Nightson
I have no scummy pile, just a lot of unsures.
Nightson
oblivion
31st January 2012, 12:46 PM
I still haven't seen what I was expecting to see from him long before now. So I'm suspicious of him. But, I'm considering the town reads that others have. They can't all be scum.
You won't, I have resolved to ask fewer questions than I normally do, it will require some practice to find a replacement for neutral questions.
what do you mean by this? Why are you replacing neutral questions?
{quote]As for amok's question to you, she may have been (also?) asking you about your "hmm" post that occurred in close proximity to my first post.[/QUOTE]
My "hmm" post was about your first post.
There is something else you usually do in your first few posts. The lack caught my attention. Your relative quiet has also been noticeable.
Why don't you want to ask questions of other players?
You won't, I have resolved to ask fewer questions than I normally do, it will require some practice to find a replacement for neutral questions.
what do you mean by this? Why are you replacing neutral questions?
{quote]As for amok's question to you, she may have been (also?) asking you about your "hmm" post that occurred in close proximity to my first post.[/QUOTE]
My "hmm" post was about your first post.
There is something else you usually do in your first few posts. The lack caught my attention. Your relative quiet has also been noticeable.
Why don't you want to ask questions of other players?
oblivion
31st January 2012, 12:47 PM
grr. quote tag
oblivion
31st January 2012, 12:50 PM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
i think daphne is wrong about fuzzy who looks town to me but the rest of it matched my thoughts p closely which has me leaning town on daphne
The more I see of fuzzy...the less I'm inclined to call him town. I mean that across several games. Gib what makes you think fuzzy is town. Has he ever fooled you?
I'm curious about this too, gib. what made you comfortable with fuzzy. I didn't see much of a handshake between you two this game.
i think daphne is wrong about fuzzy who looks town to me but the rest of it matched my thoughts p closely which has me leaning town on daphne
The more I see of fuzzy...the less I'm inclined to call him town. I mean that across several games. Gib what makes you think fuzzy is town. Has he ever fooled you?
I'm curious about this too, gib. what made you comfortable with fuzzy. I didn't see much of a handshake between you two this game.
oblivion
31st January 2012, 12:56 PM
daphne; vote oblivion
I don't like the combination of #35 and #66.
Somehow I am not surprised to find this post, reading through. will have to go back and look at 35 and 66, though.
I don't like the combination of #35 and #66.
Somehow I am not surprised to find this post, reading through. will have to go back and look at 35 and 66, though.
oblivion
31st January 2012, 12:58 PM
diva just told me she's not playing, i think there are gonna be some gaps
Diva wasn't on the list to play. What are you smoking today Gibbers?
oh i saw her name on the sign up thread
trying to decide whether to recalibrate or put a vote down on you.
Ob, waiting patiently to find out what you saw with gib
I hadn't seen much, and what I saw didn't have much vinegar.
Ok...I am surprised at which posts you picked. care to explain what you don't like about them?
Diva wasn't on the list to play. What are you smoking today Gibbers?
oh i saw her name on the sign up thread
trying to decide whether to recalibrate or put a vote down on you.
Ob, waiting patiently to find out what you saw with gib
I hadn't seen much, and what I saw didn't have much vinegar.
Ok...I am surprised at which posts you picked. care to explain what you don't like about them?
Linus
31st January 2012, 12:59 PM
I still haven't seen what I was expecting to see from him long before now. So I'm suspicious of him. But, I'm considering the town reads that others have. They can't all be scum.
You won't, I have resolved to ask fewer questions than I normally do, it will require some practice to find a replacement for neutral questions.
what do you mean by this? Why are you replacing neutral questions?
{quote]As for amok's question to you, she may have been (also?) asking you about your "hmm" post that occurred in close proximity to my first post.
My "hmm" post was about your first post.
There is something else you usually do in your first few posts. The lack caught my attention. Your relative quiet has also been noticeable.
Why don't you want to ask questions of other players?[/QUOTE]
I wanted to try something else and with 48 hour days I (mistakenly, as it turns out) thought there would be less need for direct questions. My standard formulaic mayor vote + seer suggestion to view a different player seemed unnecessary in light of my recent post in the "tips for playing seer thread".
You won't, I have resolved to ask fewer questions than I normally do, it will require some practice to find a replacement for neutral questions.
what do you mean by this? Why are you replacing neutral questions?
{quote]As for amok's question to you, she may have been (also?) asking you about your "hmm" post that occurred in close proximity to my first post.
My "hmm" post was about your first post.
There is something else you usually do in your first few posts. The lack caught my attention. Your relative quiet has also been noticeable.
Why don't you want to ask questions of other players?[/QUOTE]
I wanted to try something else and with 48 hour days I (mistakenly, as it turns out) thought there would be less need for direct questions. My standard formulaic mayor vote + seer suggestion to view a different player seemed unnecessary in light of my recent post in the "tips for playing seer thread".
borealis
31st January 2012, 01:04 PM
Hi guys. I just got home late last night, so I'll try to catch up now.
gib
31st January 2012, 01:16 PM
dont see why mz looks scummy to u either
interesting
please outline why I look scummy to you
Plus, you don't have an updated list? No one has moved to a different pile since your last list?
While you're at it, outline your case on athene
i don't have an updated list because after i made that list i went to sleep, you got some thoughts from me over coffee then i went to work. i forget why you looked scummy, you do look better now
i don't have a case on athene it was just a feeling. if i had a case i'd vote her
interesting
please outline why I look scummy to you
Plus, you don't have an updated list? No one has moved to a different pile since your last list?
While you're at it, outline your case on athene
i don't have an updated list because after i made that list i went to sleep, you got some thoughts from me over coffee then i went to work. i forget why you looked scummy, you do look better now
i don't have a case on athene it was just a feeling. if i had a case i'd vote her
gib
31st January 2012, 01:17 PM
dont see why mz looks scummy to u either
interesting
please outline why I look scummy to you
Plus, you don't have an updated list? No one has moved to a different pile since your last list?
While you're at it, outline your case on athene
so why does mz look scummy to you?
interesting
please outline why I look scummy to you
Plus, you don't have an updated list? No one has moved to a different pile since your last list?
While you're at it, outline your case on athene
so why does mz look scummy to you?
Linus
31st January 2012, 01:18 PM
daphne; vote oblivion
I don't like the combination of #35 and #66.
Somehow I am not surprised to find this post, reading through. will have to go back and look at 35 and 66, though.
I am surprised that you only replied before checking back to #35 and #66 and not after.
I don't like the combination of #35 and #66.
Somehow I am not surprised to find this post, reading through. will have to go back and look at 35 and 66, though.
I am surprised that you only replied before checking back to #35 and #66 and not after.
gib
31st January 2012, 01:18 PM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
good point about avoiding a repeat. I'm leaning town on her because her list matched mine at the time p closely. Therefore it's much more likely she is town, it's possible a scum could come up with a list i'd like to see but much more unlikely they would do that and score so many matches
Really? You didn't have fuzzy, nightson and cgi on your scum list, so the only scum matches are jerome and bolero, right? And, she had no read on me or ob, yet you have me on your scum list and ob on your town list. I can't see how your lists match so closely at all :unsure:
nightson is top of my list, read the post again, i was asked for reads OTHER than nightson
In previous games I saw of her, many of her posts looked positively genuine. There's nothing particularly wrong with her long post but it also didn't give that Genuine Daphne^TM impression.
She did a similar wot in a recent game at TR as scum. Admittedly the last scum was well hidden in there. However I think she'd avoid a repeat at this early stage. Leaning town on daphne
good point about avoiding a repeat. I'm leaning town on her because her list matched mine at the time p closely. Therefore it's much more likely she is town, it's possible a scum could come up with a list i'd like to see but much more unlikely they would do that and score so many matches
Really? You didn't have fuzzy, nightson and cgi on your scum list, so the only scum matches are jerome and bolero, right? And, she had no read on me or ob, yet you have me on your scum list and ob on your town list. I can't see how your lists match so closely at all :unsure:
nightson is top of my list, read the post again, i was asked for reads OTHER than nightson
gib
31st January 2012, 01:20 PM
Nostrum...
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
what was the purpose of this post, what motivated you to make it?
What is the basis of ob landing in your town pile, gib?
she keeps mentioning my kids and if she's using them as scum cover i will go fucking ballistic
Hmm ok, so you're using a big meta call on her to read her as firmly town. So why the questioning of her about wanting to believe you are town?
oh just shut the fuck up please
speaking of gib, I dunno. Athene has caught him out before when I was buying it hook line and sinker. I'm trying to lock in and feel good about triangulating, but I don't yet. That's usually not a good sign. But... babby, distractions on his end, and 2 months of not playing on my end.
I think I usually want to believe he's town.
what was the purpose of this post, what motivated you to make it?
What is the basis of ob landing in your town pile, gib?
she keeps mentioning my kids and if she's using them as scum cover i will go fucking ballistic
Hmm ok, so you're using a big meta call on her to read her as firmly town. So why the questioning of her about wanting to believe you are town?
oh just shut the fuck up please
oblivion
31st January 2012, 01:21 PM
townish: nostrum, Amok, Adenosine
Unsure:
bolero - could easily go in the townish list. not there mostly due to unfamiliarity
Zigmen - the gib interaction gives me mixed vibes
gib - not as comfortable with him as I was last time I put my thoughts down.
CGI - meta reason to think he's town, but his play overall doesn't put him in my townpile
Nightson - feel a little better about him
Linus - still don't like his contribution to the game, but taking on other players' reads.
Daphne Girl - I still don't have much of a read, but Nostrum's unease is noted. If I trusted MZ, I'd be more likely to vote her.
Fuzzy - he's not standing out. I can see why he's on some scum lists.
Scummy looking -
MZ - he has a history of sparring with me when he's town, which he's avoided.
Jerome - lots of objectively scummy stuff going on. but it's stuff I've seen him do as town
Athene is not dug in, not asking tough questions, just floating around the edges
If I were to put a vote down this instant, I'd probably vote Athene.
Unsure:
bolero - could easily go in the townish list. not there mostly due to unfamiliarity
Zigmen - the gib interaction gives me mixed vibes
gib - not as comfortable with him as I was last time I put my thoughts down.
CGI - meta reason to think he's town, but his play overall doesn't put him in my townpile
Nightson - feel a little better about him
Linus - still don't like his contribution to the game, but taking on other players' reads.
Daphne Girl - I still don't have much of a read, but Nostrum's unease is noted. If I trusted MZ, I'd be more likely to vote her.
Fuzzy - he's not standing out. I can see why he's on some scum lists.
Scummy looking -
MZ - he has a history of sparring with me when he's town, which he's avoided.
Jerome - lots of objectively scummy stuff going on. but it's stuff I've seen him do as town
Athene is not dug in, not asking tough questions, just floating around the edges
If I were to put a vote down this instant, I'd probably vote Athene.
gib
31st January 2012, 01:23 PM
What is interesting to me is that bolero appears to be 'low hanging fruit' this game. Who is listing her as scum? gib, daphne. Who is actually voting for her? Zigmen.
Sorry, what's low-hanging fruit? Easy target? Hells yeah, I am. Which is why I am not sus of people saying I am leaning town ... scum could easily pick me off today.
that a slip?
Sorry, what's low-hanging fruit? Easy target? Hells yeah, I am. Which is why I am not sus of people saying I am leaning town ... scum could easily pick me off today.
that a slip?
gib
31st January 2012, 01:24 PM
Did you see what she said about Daphne's long post? What did you think of that?
She said it was a recap, which is fair. It was suspicious that there was no read on nostrum or raven, which I think is bad reasoning but doesn't strike me as scummy. And that Daphne doesn't usually have so many scum suspects, which would be useful to look up and compare her town and scum games for, I have no idea how true it is off the top of my head. Does sort of feel like genuine scum hunting on Nostrums part.
you thought it was suspicious but it doesn't strike you as scummy. Please explain the subtle difference between suspucious and scummy for me.
The first part of each sentence is what Nostrum said which is followed by my thoughts on it. The formatting is less then stellar because of phoneposting.
i still don't get it - if anyone does can they explain it to me please?
She said it was a recap, which is fair. It was suspicious that there was no read on nostrum or raven, which I think is bad reasoning but doesn't strike me as scummy. And that Daphne doesn't usually have so many scum suspects, which would be useful to look up and compare her town and scum games for, I have no idea how true it is off the top of my head. Does sort of feel like genuine scum hunting on Nostrums part.
you thought it was suspicious but it doesn't strike you as scummy. Please explain the subtle difference between suspucious and scummy for me.
The first part of each sentence is what Nostrum said which is followed by my thoughts on it. The formatting is less then stellar because of phoneposting.
i still don't get it - if anyone does can they explain it to me please?
oblivion
31st January 2012, 01:26 PM
daphne; vote oblivion
I don't like the combination of #35 and #66.
Somehow I am not surprised to find this post, reading through. will have to go back and look at 35 and 66, though.
I am surprised that you only replied before checking back to #35 and #66 and not after.
I don't filter. so you got my immediate response to your vote. The last time I remember you putting a day 1 vote on me you were town, and the vote came after several tense interactions. It was the Innsmouth game. I've been poking at you nearly every time I've been active at the thread and you've done little in response. So, an out of the blue vote is not surprising. I did think you would dig a little harder for some sort of case for the vote, though. 2 posts about gib that aren't self-contradictory is an odd reason for a vote.
I don't like the combination of #35 and #66.
Somehow I am not surprised to find this post, reading through. will have to go back and look at 35 and 66, though.
I am surprised that you only replied before checking back to #35 and #66 and not after.
I don't filter. so you got my immediate response to your vote. The last time I remember you putting a day 1 vote on me you were town, and the vote came after several tense interactions. It was the Innsmouth game. I've been poking at you nearly every time I've been active at the thread and you've done little in response. So, an out of the blue vote is not surprising. I did think you would dig a little harder for some sort of case for the vote, though. 2 posts about gib that aren't self-contradictory is an odd reason for a vote.
gib
31st January 2012, 01:28 PM
zigmen what as the game here i called you an idiot, this is bugging me now
Researched for a few minutes and found a few:
hey scum, thanks for killing me night1 so i didn't have to read any more of zigmen's pompous posts!if you want to look dumb after the game then by all means keep telling yourself i'm not townfuck off deanyou look dumb as fucki see zigmen fucked off:colbert:
no you said i called you an idiot for godkilling praying
Ahhh...did not catch that last night when he was around. Yeah. I went and looked at the game where he godkilled praying yesterday. You did not give him any shit over the godkill.
zigmen why did you lie about this? Like i said before i have only ever said good things about your skills as a GM.
Researched for a few minutes and found a few:
hey scum, thanks for killing me night1 so i didn't have to read any more of zigmen's pompous posts!if you want to look dumb after the game then by all means keep telling yourself i'm not townfuck off deanyou look dumb as fucki see zigmen fucked off:colbert:
no you said i called you an idiot for godkilling praying
Ahhh...did not catch that last night when he was around. Yeah. I went and looked at the game where he godkilled praying yesterday. You did not give him any shit over the godkill.
zigmen why did you lie about this? Like i said before i have only ever said good things about your skills as a GM.
Daphne Girl
31st January 2012, 01:29 PM
i'd be surprised if daphne is scum
she has this strategy of waiting around and only voting at the last mnute when everything is offered on a silver platter, it drove me crazy in the TR game, it must stop.
Is this her strategy as scum or as town? Or both?
Ok, I do wait until close to the end of the day to place my vote, NOT because everything is offered on a silver platter. To the contrary. It is hard to put a vote down towards the end, because a lot of times it is that vote which decides where the game goes. I wait because I like to see everything and everyone's story and ideas before I vote. That is how I have always done everything in my life. I never tend to jump to conclusions early and pass judgment. I ask questions throughout the day and question people, then when it is time, I vote. I didn't think this was a bad thing.
she has this strategy of waiting around and only voting at the last mnute when everything is offered on a silver platter, it drove me crazy in the TR game, it must stop.
Is this her strategy as scum or as town? Or both?
Ok, I do wait until close to the end of the day to place my vote, NOT because everything is offered on a silver platter. To the contrary. It is hard to put a vote down towards the end, because a lot of times it is that vote which decides where the game goes. I wait because I like to see everything and everyone's story and ideas before I vote. That is how I have always done everything in my life. I never tend to jump to conclusions early and pass judgment. I ask questions throughout the day and question people, then when it is time, I vote. I didn't think this was a bad thing.
gib
31st January 2012, 01:31 PM
I don't think Nightson is scummy any more. I like his explanation and subsequent play. Not willing to lynch bolero either. Or ob or gib. No idea why anyone is suspicious of gib. His seems like solid town play.
I have no scummy pile, just a lot of unsures.
Nightson
when we first started playing together you would have voted me for my play today but you've gotten used to my game. The question is, why don't others who are also used to my game also see me as town
starting to think that my flip would be the most useful today
I have no scummy pile, just a lot of unsures.
Nightson
when we first started playing together you would have voted me for my play today but you've gotten used to my game. The question is, why don't others who are also used to my game also see me as town
starting to think that my flip would be the most useful today
oblivion
31st January 2012, 01:32 PM
Did you see what she said about Daphne's long post? What did you think of that?
She said it was a recap, which is fair. It was suspicious that there was no read on nostrum or raven, which I think is bad reasoning but doesn't strike me as scummy. And that Daphne doesn't usually have so many scum suspects, which would be useful to look up and compare her town and scum games for, I have no idea how true it is off the top of my head. Does sort of feel like genuine scum hunting on Nostrums part.
you thought it was suspicious but it doesn't strike you as scummy. Please explain the subtle difference between suspucious and scummy for me.
The first part of each sentence is what Nostrum said which is followed by my thoughts on it. The formatting is less then stellar because of phoneposting.
i still don't get it - if anyone does can they explain it to me please?
I think he's saying that "it's suspicious" is what Nostrum said, and he's saying it didn't strike him as scummy.
She said it was a recap, which is fair. It was suspicious that there was no read on nostrum or raven, which I think is bad reasoning but doesn't strike me as scummy. And that Daphne doesn't usually have so many scum suspects, which would be useful to look up and compare her town and scum games for, I have no idea how true it is off the top of my head. Does sort of feel like genuine scum hunting on Nostrums part.
you thought it was suspicious but it doesn't strike you as scummy. Please explain the subtle difference between suspucious and scummy for me.
The first part of each sentence is what Nostrum said which is followed by my thoughts on it. The formatting is less then stellar because of phoneposting.
i still don't get it - if anyone does can they explain it to me please?
I think he's saying that "it's suspicious" is what Nostrum said, and he's saying it didn't strike him as scummy.
gib
31st January 2012, 01:32 PM
I still haven't seen what I was expecting to see from him long before now. So I'm suspicious of him. But, I'm considering the town reads that others have. They can't all be scum.
You won't, I have resolved to ask fewer questions than I normally do, it will require some practice to find a replacement for neutral questions.
what do you mean by this? Why are you replacing neutral questions?
{quote]As for amok's question to you, she may have been (also?) asking you about your "hmm" post that occurred in close proximity to my first post.
My "hmm" post was about your first post.
There is something else you usually do in your first few posts. The lack caught my attention. Your relative quiet has also been noticeable.
Why don't you want to ask questions of other players?[/QUOTE]
you're right there was something missing, do you want me to say what i think it is?
You won't, I have resolved to ask fewer questions than I normally do, it will require some practice to find a replacement for neutral questions.
what do you mean by this? Why are you replacing neutral questions?
{quote]As for amok's question to you, she may have been (also?) asking you about your "hmm" post that occurred in close proximity to my first post.
My "hmm" post was about your first post.
There is something else you usually do in your first few posts. The lack caught my attention. Your relative quiet has also been noticeable.
Why don't you want to ask questions of other players?[/QUOTE]
you're right there was something missing, do you want me to say what i think it is?
oblivion
31st January 2012, 01:33 PM
I don't think Nightson is scummy any more. I like his explanation and subsequent play. Not willing to lynch bolero either. Or ob or gib. No idea why anyone is suspicious of gib. His seems like solid town play.
I have no scummy pile, just a lot of unsures.
Nightson
when we first started playing together you would have voted me for my play today but you've gotten used to my game. The question is, why don't others who are also used to my game also see me as town
starting to think that my flip would be the most useful today
disagree. but the sentiment looks townish.
I have no scummy pile, just a lot of unsures.
Nightson
when we first started playing together you would have voted me for my play today but you've gotten used to my game. The question is, why don't others who are also used to my game also see me as town
starting to think that my flip would be the most useful today
disagree. but the sentiment looks townish.
oblivion
31st January 2012, 01:34 PM
I still haven't seen what I was expecting to see from him long before now. So I'm suspicious of him. But, I'm considering the town reads that others have. They can't all be scum.
You won't, I have resolved to ask fewer questions than I normally do, it will require some practice to find a replacement for neutral questions.
what do you mean by this? Why are you replacing neutral questions?
{quote]As for amok's question to you, she may have been (also?) asking you about your "hmm" post that occurred in close proximity to my first post.
My "hmm" post was about your first post.
There is something else you usually do in your first few posts. The lack caught my attention. Your relative quiet has also been noticeable.
Why don't you want to ask questions of other players?
you're right there was something missing, do you want me to say what i think it is?[/QUOTE]
sure
You won't, I have resolved to ask fewer questions than I normally do, it will require some practice to find a replacement for neutral questions.
what do you mean by this? Why are you replacing neutral questions?
{quote]As for amok's question to you, she may have been (also?) asking you about your "hmm" post that occurred in close proximity to my first post.
My "hmm" post was about your first post.
There is something else you usually do in your first few posts. The lack caught my attention. Your relative quiet has also been noticeable.
Why don't you want to ask questions of other players?
you're right there was something missing, do you want me to say what i think it is?[/QUOTE]
sure
gib
31st January 2012, 01:34 PM
^ actually, anyone's thoughts appreciated
i think daphne is wrong about fuzzy who looks town to me but the rest of it matched my thoughts p closely which has me leaning town on daphne
The more I see of fuzzy...the less I'm inclined to call him town. I mean that across several games. Gib what makes you think fuzzy is town. Has he ever fooled you?
I'm curious about this too, gib. what made you comfortable with fuzzy. I didn't see much of a handshake between you two this game.
general feel, plus he said good morning, a few other things i forget now
i think daphne is wrong about fuzzy who looks town to me but the rest of it matched my thoughts p closely which has me leaning town on daphne
The more I see of fuzzy...the less I'm inclined to call him town. I mean that across several games. Gib what makes you think fuzzy is town. Has he ever fooled you?
I'm curious about this too, gib. what made you comfortable with fuzzy. I didn't see much of a handshake between you two this game.
general feel, plus he said good morning, a few other things i forget now
Daphne Girl
31st January 2012, 01:34 PM
I have no idea what I have done to make Nostrum think I am scum. She has been FOS ing me all day. She knows that I make my lists and then wait to vote. No big surprise here. CGI, same to you. What is it that I have done that makes me look like I am scum? I have gone thru the thread and pointed out what I have seen. The people that I didn't comment on were the ones where I didn't see much. So to the people who have voted me. You will be disappointed when I flip town. Question- When I flip town, who will you be voting to lynch?
oblivion
31st January 2012, 01:34 PM
gah that quote tag.
Cpt. Gender Injustice
31st January 2012, 01:40 PM
I have no idea what I have done to make Nostrum think I am scum. She has been FOS ing me all day. She knows that I make my lists and then wait to vote. No big surprise here. CGI, same to you. What is it that I have done that makes me look like I am scum? I have gone thru the thread and pointed out what I have seen. The people that I didn't comment on were the ones where I didn't see much. So to the people who have voted me. You will be disappointed when I flip town. Question- When I flip town, who will you be voting to lynch?
well it depends how the lynch goes... who jumps on the bandwagon, who avoids it... that's why we lynch people, to get info
i'd be surprised if daphne is scum
she has this strategy of waiting around and only voting at the last mnute when everything is offered on a silver platter, it drove me crazy in the TR game, it must stop.
Is this her strategy as scum or as town? Or both?
Ok, I do wait until close to the end of the day to place my vote, NOT because everything is offered on a silver platter. To the contrary. It is hard to put a vote down towards the end, because a lot of times it is that vote which decides where the game goes. I wait because I like to see everything and everyone's story and ideas before I vote. That is how I have always done everything in my life. I never tend to jump to conclusions early and pass judgment. I ask questions throughout the day and question people, then when it is time, I vote. I didn't think this was a bad thing.
always voting late is like always having position in poker.
well it depends how the lynch goes... who jumps on the bandwagon, who avoids it... that's why we lynch people, to get info
i'd be surprised if daphne is scum
she has this strategy of waiting around and only voting at the last mnute when everything is offered on a silver platter, it drove me crazy in the TR game, it must stop.
Is this her strategy as scum or as town? Or both?
Ok, I do wait until close to the end of the day to place my vote, NOT because everything is offered on a silver platter. To the contrary. It is hard to put a vote down towards the end, because a lot of times it is that vote which decides where the game goes. I wait because I like to see everything and everyone's story and ideas before I vote. That is how I have always done everything in my life. I never tend to jump to conclusions early and pass judgment. I ask questions throughout the day and question people, then when it is time, I vote. I didn't think this was a bad thing.
always voting late is like always having position in poker.
gib
31st January 2012, 01:40 PM
I still haven't seen what I was expecting to see from him long before now. So I'm suspicious of him. But, I'm considering the town reads that others have. They can't all be scum.
You won't, I have resolved to ask fewer questions than I normally do, it will require some practice to find a replacement for neutral questions.
what do you mean by this? Why are you replacing neutral questions?
{quote]As for amok's question to you, she may have been (also?) asking you about your "hmm" post that occurred in close proximity to my first post.
My "hmm" post was about your first post.
There is something else you usually do in your first few posts. The lack caught my attention. Your relative quiet has also been noticeable.
Why don't you want to ask questions of other players?
you're right there was something missing, do you want me to say what i think it is?
sure[/QUOTE]
quote tag hell^
the mayor thing he always says, he's mentioned it jsut now
You won't, I have resolved to ask fewer questions than I normally do, it will require some practice to find a replacement for neutral questions.
what do you mean by this? Why are you replacing neutral questions?
{quote]As for amok's question to you, she may have been (also?) asking you about your "hmm" post that occurred in close proximity to my first post.
My "hmm" post was about your first post.
There is something else you usually do in your first few posts. The lack caught my attention. Your relative quiet has also been noticeable.
Why don't you want to ask questions of other players?
you're right there was something missing, do you want me to say what i think it is?
sure[/QUOTE]
quote tag hell^
the mayor thing he always says, he's mentioned it jsut now
oblivion
31st January 2012, 01:41 PM
He said the mayor thing. he did not suggest someone for viewing.
gib
31st January 2012, 01:42 PM
guys you have me for a couple more hours at most, what do we want to do here?
i'd settle for a jerome lynch as he's avoiding answering questions, not sure i'm happy with my nightson vote, definitely don't want to lynch daphne
i'd settle for a jerome lynch as he's avoiding answering questions, not sure i'm happy with my nightson vote, definitely don't want to lynch daphne
gib
31st January 2012, 01:43 PM
He said the mayor thing. he did not suggest someone for viewing.
yup he always says who he wants to break ties
yup he always says who he wants to break ties
gib
31st January 2012, 01:43 PM
who has an up to date count please
oblivion
31st January 2012, 01:44 PM
what are your thoughts about athene?
gib
31st January 2012, 01:45 PM
what are your thoughts about athene?
i'll go back and see what was bugging me at teh time i made my list
i'll go back and see what was bugging me at teh time i made my list
gib
31st January 2012, 01:50 PM
what are your thoughts about athene?
i think it might have been 1AM paranoia but she seems a little too agreeable, i don't feel strongly enough about her to want to lynch her atm
i think it might have been 1AM paranoia but she seems a little too agreeable, i don't feel strongly enough about her to want to lynch her atm
Cpt. Gender Injustice
31st January 2012, 01:52 PM
guys you have me for a couple more hours at most, what do we want to do here?
i'd settle for a jerome lynch as he's avoiding answering questions, not sure i'm happy with my nightson vote, definitely don't want to lynch daphne
i'm not sold on daphne yet, let's see what happens with a little more pressure
i'd settle for a jerome lynch as he's avoiding answering questions, not sure i'm happy with my nightson vote, definitely don't want to lynch daphne
i'm not sold on daphne yet, let's see what happens with a little more pressure
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