Where are you on the Political Compass? page 1

oblivion

20th January 2012, 03:09 AM

Here are a few political position tests, including the fairly famous political compass test (http://www.politicalcompass.org/).

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Share your scores if you like.

oblivion

20th January 2012, 03:10 AM

My scores:

Economic Left/Right: -6.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.54
Your scored -5.5 on Moral Order (http://www.moral-politics.com/xPolitics.aspx?menu=Moral_Dimensions&action=Draw&choice=MoralDimensions.Moral_Order) and 3 on Moral Rules (http://www.moral-politics.com/xPolitics.aspx?menu=Moral_Dimensions&action=Draw&choice=MoralDimensions.Moral_Rules).


The following categories best match your score (multiple responses are possible):

System: Socialism (http://www.moral-politics.com/xpolitics.aspx?menu=Political_Systems&action=Draw&choice=PoliticalSystems.Socialism)
Ideology: Activism (http://www.moral-politics.com/xpolitics.aspx?menu=Political_Ideologies&action=Draw&choice=PoliticalIdeologies.Activism)
Party: No match.
Presidents: Jimmy Carter (http://www.moral-politics.com/xpolitics.aspx?menu=Political_Maps&action=Draw&choice=PoliticalMaps.US_Presidents&Choices=Jimmy%20Carter)
04' Election: David Cobb (http://www.moral-politics.com/xpolitics.aspx?menu=Political_Maps&action=Draw&choice=PoliticalMaps.US_2004_Elections&Choices=David%20Cobb)
08' Election: Dennis Kucinich (http://www.moral-politics.com/xpolitics.aspx?menu=Political_Maps&action=Draw&choice=PoliticalMaps.US_2008_Elections&Choices=Dennis%20Kucinich)

Political Brew:

On Non-Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Liberal (7).
On Fiscal Issues, you rank as a Strong Liberal (17).

Fire and Ice Survey:

We have diagnosed you as falling into the
Idealism & Autonomy Quadrant

Izdaari

20th January 2012, 05:03 AM

I haven't taken any of those for a while, and don't have time right at the moment, but I will later.

Sneak preview: All political tests, always, show me to be on the Libertarian Right. IIRC, the Political Compass showed me pretty close to Milton Friedman. And that's about right.

nostrum

20th January 2012, 05:27 AM

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -9.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.05

Supernaut

20th January 2012, 05:54 AM

Economic Left/Right: -2.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.26


http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-2.00&soc=-4.26

Hermit

20th January 2012, 06:12 AM

Here are a few political position tests, including the fairly famous political compass test (http://www.politicalcompass.org/).


Moral Politics (http://www.moral-politics.com/)
Political Brew (http://www.politicalbrew.com/politest.cgi)
Environics Fire-and-Ice Human-Values test (http://fireandice.environics.net/surveys/fireandice/main/fireandice.asp?surveyID=1)

Share your scores if you like.
I'd love to, but I have problems with the last three links you provided: "connection reset", "bad request", and at best a site with lists to other sites.

Meanwhile, from the first link (http://www.politicalcompass.org/test):

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -9.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.26

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-9.50&soc=-8.26

Cunt

20th January 2012, 06:36 AM

I don't really understand politics as well as I should, and some of the questions were a bit tough to answer in the limited way allowed. Plus, being out of the US, I had to tackle fresh the idea of a 'one-party state' with only a fuzzy idea of US political divisions.

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee174/Darren8306/Untitled-1-2.jpg

oblivion

20th January 2012, 06:44 AM

Here are a few political position tests, including the fairly famous political compass test (http://www.politicalcompass.org/).


Moral Politics (http://www.moral-politics.com/)
Political Brew (http://www.politicalbrew.com/politest.cgi)
Environics Fire-and-Ice Human-Values test (http://fireandice.environics.net/surveys/fireandice/main/fireandice.asp?surveyID=1)

Share your scores if you like.
I'd love to, but I have problems with the last three links you provided: "connection reset", "bad request", and at best a site with lists to other sites.

Meanwhile, from the first link (http://www.politicalcompass.org/test):

Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -9.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.26



sorry about that. I've removed the dead links for now. will have to re-find the quizzes. the fire and ice one in particular was interesting.

redunderthebed

20th January 2012, 07:15 AM

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-10.00&soc=-8.72

Adenosine

20th January 2012, 11:08 AM

I'm two to the right of redunderthebed.

queenb

20th January 2012, 04:37 PM

I'm always right libertarian

Exi5tentialist

20th January 2012, 04:44 PM

I loathe that political compass, with all due respect. Left is libertarian, Right is authoritarian.

queenb

20th January 2012, 04:54 PM

oh well whatever...lol...I'm financially conservative but personally liberal

Cunt

20th January 2012, 05:39 PM

When I first signed up for facebook, it asked whether I was liberal or conservative. I put conservative (and meant it). But that was before I learned how those have been twisted as political labels...

Facetious

20th January 2012, 07:01 PM

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.23

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-6.88&soc=-5.23

divagreen

20th January 2012, 07:30 PM

Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.95

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Cunt

20th January 2012, 08:10 PM

This place is starting to lean...

Supernaut

20th January 2012, 08:38 PM

Jesus christ I am the most conservative member. :whyyou:

divagreen

20th January 2012, 08:49 PM

Jesus christ I am the most conservative member. :whyyou:

:rofl:

Hermit

20th January 2012, 09:58 PM

Jesus christ I am the most conservative member. :whyyou:
You'll be OK. Just wait for Jerome da Gnome to do the quiz.

Jerome

20th January 2012, 10:57 PM

Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-0.75&soc=-3.79

Hermit

21st January 2012, 12:09 AM

Jesus christ I am the most conservative member. :whyyou:
You'll be OK. Just wait for Jerome da Gnome to do the quiz.

Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-0.75&soc=-3.79
Told ya. :D

Jerome

21st January 2012, 01:09 AM

Who has the skills to post a running chart of the members?

Nixon

21st January 2012, 03:18 AM

I'm:
Economic Left/Right: -7.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.13

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-7.25&soc=-3.13

Whatever that means.





http://kingofthehill.edogo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/hank-hill.jpeg

Supernaut

21st January 2012, 06:51 AM

Jesus christ I am the most conservative member. :whyyou:
You'll be OK. Just wait for Jerome da Gnome to do the quiz.

Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-0.75&soc=-3.79
Told ya. :D

:happydance:

Adenosine

21st January 2012, 06:54 AM

Jesus christ I am the most conservative member. :whyyou:
You'll be OK. Just wait for Jerome da Gnome to do the quiz.

Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-0.75&soc=-3.79
Told ya. :D

:happydance:

Yeah but :stare: that he is still left of centre.

nostrum

21st January 2012, 11:48 AM

Jesus christ I am the most conservative member. :whyyou:
You'll be OK. Just wait for Jerome da Gnome to do the quiz.

Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-0.75&soc=-3.79
Told ya. :D

:happydance:

Yeah but :stare: that he is still left of centre.

Hmmm so the thing doesn't work?

Izdaari

21st January 2012, 12:31 PM

I didn't save the numbers, but I did save my Political Compass chart.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/Izdaari/IzzyPolicompass1.jpg

Just like I said, pretty darn close to Milton Friedman. And way to the right of Super or Jerome. :rofl:

Adenosine

21st January 2012, 01:13 PM

Jesus christ I am the most conservative member. :whyyou:
You'll be OK. Just wait for Jerome da Gnome to do the quiz.

Economic Left/Right: -0.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-0.75&soc=-3.79
Told ya. :D

:happydance:

Yeah but :stare: that he is still left of centre.

Hmmm so the thing doesn't work?

Or Jerome isn't as libertarian/right wing as he pretends to be.

Also I'm not as libertarian as the graph made out. I answered that I wanted government to regulate business heavily. And I am generally in favour of regulation.

Jerome

21st January 2012, 03:30 PM

Or Jerome isn't as libertarian/right wing as he pretends to be.

Or people read what I write thru meme glasses and not what I am actually saying.

oblivion

21st January 2012, 03:33 PM

Or Jerome isn't as libertarian/right wing as he pretends to be.

Or people read what I write thru meme glasses and not what I am actually saying.
Or what you write and what you mean may not always line up very well. Especially on weekend nights. :p

Jerome

21st January 2012, 03:34 PM

:hmmm:

Izdaari

21st January 2012, 03:39 PM

I guess meme glasses are like beer goggles... with the difference that beer is much tastier than memes.

charlou

21st January 2012, 03:44 PM

I try to get past the crappy wording of the questions but give up.

Fuzzy

21st January 2012, 03:59 PM

Economic Left/Right: -7.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.79

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-7.00&soc=-3.79

borealis

22nd January 2012, 04:22 AM

Economic Left/Right: -7.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.77

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-7.38&soc=-6.77

borealis

22nd January 2012, 04:27 AM

Yeah, it's a weird test. An alarming number of the questions don't have any answer that correlates to my actual political beliefs. And the closest of four possibles misrepresents those beliefs.

borealis

22nd January 2012, 04:32 AM

I loathe that political compass, with all due respect. Left is libertarian, Right is authoritarian.

Not as proposed by the American Libertarian party it isn't.

Supernaut

22nd January 2012, 06:24 AM

I didn't save the numbers, but I did save my Political Compass chart.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a141/Izdaari/IzzyPolicompass1.jpg

Just like I said, pretty darn close to Milton Friedman. And way to the right of Super or Jerome. :rofl:

Conservative spotted itt!!! :D

Magicziggy

22nd January 2012, 11:12 AM

http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b474/Magicziggy/pcgraphpng.png

Gonzo

22nd January 2012, 01:24 PM

Land shouldn't be a commodity to be bought and sold.

That one is tough.

Jerome

22nd January 2012, 01:31 PM

Land shouldn't be a commodity to be bought and sold.That one is tough.

Without property rights you have no real rights.

Gonzo

22nd January 2012, 01:34 PM

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-5.00&soc=-8.10

borealis

22nd January 2012, 05:14 PM

Land shouldn't be a commodity to be bought and sold.

That one is tough.

I disagreed with that one, because it isn't so much tough as seriously lacking in nuance.

Land shouldn't be hoarded in large quantities by the wealthy to the point where no one else can get land.

Land shouldn't be prohibitively hard to acquire. If you want or need some land, you should be able to afford to get some, preferably as much as you need.

People and industries and businesses have widely diverse needs for land. A family needs enough to build shelter on and to garden if they want to do that. A family restaurant needs enough room to build and run the restaurant. A farm family needs acreage on which to plant and raise animals. A stock brokerage needs enough land to put up an adequate building for its employees and offices. An industry such as pulp and paper needs enough acreage to farm trees, which could be a lot.

Land use or the need for land can change. families move, industries fail or become redundant, businesses change.

If you remove the ability to buy and sell land, how do you decide who gets land? Do you go to a process of government allotments? You apply for land and some bureaucrat decides whether you get it or not?

There's actually an element of that method available in Canada. Forestry operations may own land, or they may acquire rights to harvest wood on Crown lands. Individuals may also apply to build hunting/fishing camps on Crown land.

In Canada's early days, land was often granted directly by the Crown to settlers, and that land was theirs to sell or use thereafter.

I think, flawed as it is, we need to retain the right to buy and sell land.

Cunt

22nd January 2012, 07:05 PM

Owning land makes it much more likely that the owner will make an effort to protect it from others' abuse.

Jerome

22nd January 2012, 08:13 PM

Owning land makes it much more likely that the owner will make an effort to protect it from others' abuse.
:nada:

borealis

22nd January 2012, 08:46 PM

Owning land makes it much more likely that the owner will make an effort to protect it from others' abuse.

Owning land does not make it more likely that the owner will make any effort to protect it from their own abuse. As someone who lives in a province where an insane amount of clearcutting was done in the last thirty years by both individual owners and mega forestry industrial companies, that fact is horrifyingly obvious.

Jerome

22nd January 2012, 08:51 PM

Good thing there is more forest today in the world then there was 100 years ago, see, if government doesn't tax and regulate companies into potential poverty with the 'next election' then these companies have incentive to replenish the supply.

Most people/companies are not as greedy as government wants you to think they are.

As it stands now government chooses who gets to rape the environment for a limited time.

borealis

22nd January 2012, 08:51 PM

Worse, most of the harvest is for processing out of the country, the trees are reduced to chips here and shipped away to be turned into end products that get shipped back to us at many times the cost of the resource was sold for.

borealis

22nd January 2012, 08:59 PM

Good thing there is more forest today in the world then there was 100 years ago, see, if government doesn't tax and regulate companies into potential poverty with the 'next election' then these companies have incentive to replenish the supply.

Most people/companies are not as greedy as government wants you to think they are.

As it stands now government chooses who gets to rape the environment for a limited time.

Much of the land clearcut here is not Crown land, but owned by forestry companies or individual woodlot owners. They don't care, it's fat profit. A few industrial harvesters and a small crew of human operators can raze hectares of land in a single day.

And yes, they are pretty damned greedy.

As to your 'more forest in the world today', that's hardly the point. There's more people as well. And the fact that humans even in Mediaeval times were able to devastate the forests is not a positive spin. In France in that period, the demand for charcoal for making stained glass windows was so great that there wasn't enough trees left to fuel much else, and laws were made by the French government to slow the decline of woodlands. Britain was largely deforested for fuel at one point as well. That is not a good thing.

Jerome

22nd January 2012, 08:59 PM

etaWorse, most of the harvest is for processing out of the country, the trees are reduced to chips here and shipped away to be turned into end products that get shipped back to us at many times the cost of the resource was sold for.

Apparently your government has made production too costly.

Jerome

22nd January 2012, 09:03 PM

Much of the land clearcut here is not Crown land, but owned by forestry companies or individual woodlot owners. They don't care, it's fat profit. A few industrial harvesters and a small crew of human operators can raze hectares of land in a single day.

And yes, they are pretty damned greedy.

The 'get it now' attitude currently in vogue is fostered by government, see, one never knows what taxation and regulation government will impose next election.

Zigmen

22nd January 2012, 09:52 PM

Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.05



So, right where Ghandi is on the chart, basically.

Jerome

22nd January 2012, 10:23 PM

Zig :hattip:

Grumps

22nd January 2012, 10:27 PM

Economic Left/Right: -4.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.05



So, right where Ghandi is on the chart, basically.

Along with the whole hating blacks thing? Or is that just Ghandi?

Cunt

22nd January 2012, 10:38 PM

Did Ghandi hate blacks?

Jerome

22nd January 2012, 10:59 PM

Did Ghandi hate blacks?
all important people are called racist of one sort or another

Grumps

23rd January 2012, 12:42 AM

Did Ghandi hate blacks?

Quite the Hindu, he was. He considered blacks part of the 'slave caste', and advocated racial segregation between Indians and blacks, considering them (blacks) sub-human.

So, yeah.

borealis

23rd January 2012, 12:56 AM

Much of the land clearcut here is not Crown land, but owned by forestry companies or individual woodlot owners. They don't care, it's fat profit. A few industrial harvesters and a small crew of human operators can raze hectares of land in a single day.

And yes, they are pretty damned greedy.

The 'get it now' attitude currently in vogue is fostered by government, see, one never knows what taxation and regulation government will impose next election.

Jerome. You're not fooling anybody, we've all seen your political chart now. :hehe:

Jerome

23rd January 2012, 12:58 AM

That opinion fits perfectly with the chart.

Supernaut

23rd January 2012, 01:08 AM

conservative gone liberal gone conservative eh?

Izdaari

23rd January 2012, 02:12 AM

Yeah, it's a weird test. An alarming number of the questions don't have any answer that correlates to my actual political beliefs. And the closest of four possibles misrepresents those beliefs.
Just so. The questions are weird, and there's no way I could answer them all with anything that makes sense to me. I answered them anyway as best I could, and I think for me the result came out about right despite the screwy questions.

Cunt

23rd January 2012, 04:30 AM

Did Ghandi hate blacks?

Quite the Hindu, he was. He considered blacks part of the 'slave caste', and advocated racial segregation between Indians and blacks, considering them (blacks) sub-human.

So, yeah.
AWESOME!

Maybe his punishment is endless blowjobs from Mother Theresa in hell.

(remember how she glorified suffering...)

Izdaari

23rd January 2012, 06:07 AM

Did Ghandi hate blacks?

Quite the Hindu, he was. He considered blacks part of the 'slave caste', and advocated racial segregation between Indians and blacks, considering them (blacks) sub-human.

So, yeah.
Hmm, interesting, I didn't know that. :hmmm:

Grumps

23rd January 2012, 06:31 AM

Did Ghandi hate blacks?

Quite the Hindu, he was. He considered blacks part of the 'slave caste', and advocated racial segregation between Indians and blacks, considering them (blacks) sub-human.

So, yeah.
Hmm, interesting, I didn't know that. :hmmm:


Not many people do. It's just like Mother Theresa accepting donations from corrupt and violent dictators, and spending more money on conversion centres than she did in quality medical health care centres.

Reminds me presently of Assange, actually. Willing to overlook the reality of his ideology because you like the fantasy of it.

Magicziggy

23rd January 2012, 12:57 PM

current collated results
http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b474/Magicziggy/collatedgraphs.png

divagreen

23rd January 2012, 01:19 PM

lol

Jerome

23rd January 2012, 01:43 PM

lol that I am the most balanced

:hehe:

charlou

23rd January 2012, 03:29 PM

Well, I'm not too keen on the wording of some of the statements, but ...

... here's mine

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-6.50&soc=-7.18


Here are some thoughts I had about the statements in the past:

I'm just curious ... There are no savage and civilised peoples; there are only different cultures. I disagreed with this. What do others think? (Edit: I've started a thread on this here (http://mindromp.org/forum/showthread.php?p=7085#post7085) for those interested)


Statements I had a problem with or had to give more thought than the others:

People are ultimately divided more by class than by nationality.

I went with 'disagree' simply because I don't know ... though I could just as readily put agree there, because that's how it seems to be divided to me. I guess it's a case of not being comfortable about assuming something I'm not certain about ...

Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment.

I went with 'agree' here, though I'm not convinced in my own view on it ... would appreciate hearing what others think on this one ...

A genuine free market requires restrictions on the ability of predator multinationals to create monopolies.

The freer the market, the freer the people.

After agreeing with the first of the above two statements I disagreed with the second. Just because one statement follows the other in the list, the truth about one doesn't necessarily follow the other, IMO (not that that was implied) ...

Our civil liberties are being excessively curbed in the name of counter-terrorism.

Though I think our civil liberties are being curbed, I think the word 'excessively' is an exageration (atm anyway) so I went with 'disagree' ... but not certain on that one ... should the curbing of civil liberty be considered 'excessive' regardless of degree?

Land shouldn't be a commodity to be bought and sold.

This one on page two I had the most difficulty with. I'm really on the fence with this one as I can relate to an idealistic notion of communal sharing sans authoritarian dictatorship ... and how the philosophy of such a society might be more enlightened about humanitarian, environmental and conservation issues ... but from a purely pragmatic (and selfish) perspective, I had to disagree with the above statement. :(

nostrum

23rd January 2012, 03:52 PM

lol that I am the most balanced

:hehe:

Most offsetting, you mean :p

nostrum

23rd January 2012, 03:53 PM

Yes elouise, I struggled with that land question, too.

ashley

23rd January 2012, 04:29 PM

I don't have a high opinion of it.

Nevertheless it puts me with Izdaari, which is probably about right:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=4.25&soc=-2.92

Cunt

24th January 2012, 12:11 AM

Did Ghandi hate blacks?

Quite the Hindu, he was. He considered blacks part of the 'slave caste', and advocated racial segregation between Indians and blacks, considering them (blacks) sub-human.

So, yeah.
Hmm, interesting, I didn't know that. :hmmm:

I know that under the polite veneer, a lot of folks I have known from India (or Indian parents) are shockingly racist against the untouchable caste. Can't get them to talk about it easily, but it's there very clearly (and more clearly, I hear, if you live there in an under-caste)

maiforpeace

24th January 2012, 01:10 AM

Here's mine.

Most of us feel rather strongly, whether in agreement or disagreement. To those of you that I know, I'm so surprised. :hehe:


http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7023/6752197581_bccbf924a9_z.jpg

charlou

24th January 2012, 02:43 AM

there's quite a knot of people on that spot :D

Izdaari

24th January 2012, 05:45 AM

I don't have a high opinion of it.

Nevertheless it puts me with Izdaari, which is probably about right:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=4.25&soc=-2.92
:cheer:

Cool! Then I'm not the only one in the purple quadrant. I was beginning to feel a little lonely there.

maiforpeace

24th January 2012, 07:04 AM

there's quite a knot of people on that spot :D

A knot on the spot? :hehe:

Knots need loosening up...I think an orgy will help.

At the very least we know the people on that spot would probably be open to one. :p

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 07:07 AM

I'll update the graph periodically.. It's an interesting snapshot even if the questions are dodgy.

Magicziggy

24th January 2012, 12:02 PM

for completeness ... up to date
http://i1047.photobucket.com/albums/b474/Magicziggy/collatedgraphs2.png

borealis

24th January 2012, 05:44 PM

there's quite a knot of people on that spot :D

A knot on the spot? :hehe:

Knots need loosening up...I think an orgy will help.

At the very least we know the people on that spot would probably be open to one. :p

Orgies are highly over-rated to begin with, and converging political positions do not equate to converging chemistries.

harummph.

Hermit

24th January 2012, 06:13 PM

Orgies are highly over-rated to begin with
Speaking from experience, or are you saying that out of spite borne of never having been invited to one? :p

borealis

24th January 2012, 07:49 PM

Orgies are highly over-rated to begin with
Speaking from experience, or are you saying that out of spite borne of never having been invited to one? :p

Let me just say that I did not marry until forty but was sexually active from the age of 19. And lived a fairly eccentric artsy lifestyle. And was emphatically physically female.

I was invited to Lots of Things. :smug:

Hermit

24th January 2012, 08:08 PM

Orgies are highly over-rated to begin with
Speaking from experience, or are you saying that out of spite borne of never having been invited to one? :p
Let me just say that I did not marry until forty but was sexually active from the age of 19. And lived a fairly eccentric artsy lifestyle. And was emphatically physically female.

I was invited to Lots of Things. :smug:
OK. Speaking from experience then. Also, I hope you still are emphatically physically female and enjoying sexual activity.

borealis

24th January 2012, 08:13 PM

Orgies are highly over-rated to begin with
Speaking from experience, or are you saying that out of spite borne of never having been invited to one? :p
Let me just say that I did not marry until forty but was sexually active from the age of 19. And lived a fairly eccentric artsy lifestyle. And was emphatically physically female.

I was invited to Lots of Things. :smug:
OK. Speaking from experience then. Also, I hope you still are emphatically physically female and enjoying sexual activity.

All systems still go. :yes:

Tardigrade

24th January 2012, 09:34 PM

I'm not on it.

ksen

24th January 2012, 09:53 PM

Economic Left/Right: -7.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-7.75&soc=-5.54

Cunt

25th January 2012, 01:11 AM

there's quite a knot of people on that spot :D

A knot on the spot? :hehe:

Knots need loosening up...I think an orgy will help.

At the very least we know the people on that spot would probably be open to one. :p

I can merrily shoot it, but you are all forbidden from fondling or sucking on my genitals.

I mean it.

Izdaari

25th January 2012, 08:37 AM

there's quite a knot of people on that spot :D

A knot on the spot? :hehe:

Knots need loosening up...I think an orgy will help.

At the very least we know the people on that spot would probably be open to one. :p

I can merrily shoot it, but you are all forbidden from fondling or sucking on my genitals.

I mean it.
Well, darn! You're just no fun! :hehe:

redunderthebed

25th January 2012, 12:59 PM

Fkn lol i'm still the most left-wing on the forum. :rofl:

Cunt

25th January 2012, 02:53 PM

I mean it.
Well, darn! You're just no fun! :hehe:

Well, that seems capricious and arbitrary.

borealis

25th January 2012, 02:55 PM

Fkn lol i'm still the most left-wing on the forum. :rofl:

Anarchist! :whyyou:

redunderthebed

25th January 2012, 03:26 PM

Fkn lol i'm still the most left-wing on the forum. :rofl:

Anarchist! :whyyou:

Nah i'm a communist. :yes:

Orphia Nay

26th January 2012, 02:43 AM

Here's mine.
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w194/orphia/PoliticalTestJan2012.png

borealis

26th January 2012, 03:37 AM

Fkn lol i'm still the most left-wing on the forum. :rofl:

Anarchist! :whyyou:

Nah i'm a communist. :yes:

card carrying or feral?

Hermit

26th January 2012, 04:13 AM

Here's mine.
http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w194/orphia/PoliticalTestJan2012.png
Oh dear! Say hello to your neighbour, The Dalai Lama. http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x59/Hermit_graphics/Smileys/eek.gif

http://www.politicalcompass.org/images/internationalchart.gif

andrewclunn

26th January 2012, 04:31 AM

This quiz is so much better:

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/political-spectrum-quiz.html


http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/35x38.gif
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/n11.gif
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/c21.gif

Cunt

26th January 2012, 05:09 AM

I am not nearly as left as I thought...could be some of the phrasing...
http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee174/Darren8306/Unt1.png

Cunt

26th January 2012, 05:10 AM

What do you suppose makes you so 'right', andrewclunn?
(as opposed to my 'left')

andrewclunn

26th January 2012, 05:21 AM

What do you suppose makes you so 'right', andrewclunn?
(as opposed to my 'left')

I'm a Social Darwinist and a big fan of Ayn Rand. That probably has something to do with it.

Hermit

26th January 2012, 05:33 AM

You are a far-left social libertarian.
Left: 8.54, Libertarian: 4.55

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/3x29.gif

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/n34.gif

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/c13.gif

ashley

26th January 2012, 05:49 AM

That one gives me similar results but I am happier answering the questions

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/30x26.gif
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/n58.gif
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/c44.gif

Izdaari

26th January 2012, 07:19 AM

Yes, I do like this one better. The questions actually make sense, and the result fits me quite accurately I think. :thumbsup:

You are a center-right social libertarian.
Right: 2.22, Libertarian: 4.75

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/24x30.gif

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/n49.gif

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/c40.gif

charlou

26th January 2012, 07:39 AM

I'm a Social Darwinist

ohhh ... topic ...

nostrum

26th January 2012, 08:15 AM

What do you suppose makes you so 'right', andrewclunn?
(as opposed to my 'left')

I'm a Social Darwinist and a big fan of Ayn Rand. That probably has something to do with it.

:staregonk:

nostrum

26th January 2012, 08:34 AM

You are a far-left social moderate.
Left: 7.82, Libertarian: 0.39

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/4x21.gif
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/n23.gif
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/c20.gif

Orphia Nay

26th January 2012, 09:35 AM

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w194/orphia/PoliticalTest3.jpg

Cunt

26th January 2012, 01:20 PM

I'm a Social Darwinist

ohhh ... topic ...

ya, no kidding. I don't know what a social darwinist is, but would enjoy picking at it a bit...

Hermit

26th January 2012, 02:38 PM

I don't know what a social darwinist is, but would enjoy picking at it a bit...You'll find that this spot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_Darwinism) is a good place to start with it.

Cunt

27th January 2012, 12:54 AM

Not a bad starting point, but I don't see much reason to march down that road...I am not fond of the 'survival of the fittest' crap. It is so much bullshit attributed to science.

It is inaccurate to say 'survival of the fittest'. It is much more accurate to say 'survival of the luckiest', but even more accurate to say 'survival of those which survived' because evolution doesn't have a 'direction' (unless you consider time a direction). Hindsight is 20/20 and there is simply no knowing what will be the next grand selection. It could be as arbitrary as who likes standing on the east side of buildings rather than the west.

Jerome

27th January 2012, 12:58 AM

It is much more accurate to say 'survival of the luckiest'

right, the genes make the path

Magicziggy

27th January 2012, 07:00 AM

Those that reproduce, reproduce...

borealis

27th January 2012, 03:17 PM

I got partway through that second quiz, but by around question 24 it had become so obviously US-centric that the questions were not answerable unless you took US issues and politics into consideration.

andrewclunn

27th January 2012, 04:49 PM

I got partway through that second quiz, but by around question 24 it had become so obviously US-centric that the questions were not answerable unless you took US issues and politics into consideration.

That I understand, However the first test has such leading questions and was clearly written by someone in the bottom left quadrant. It's completely cringe worthy for anyone from the bottom right quadrant, and will make them appear more authoritarian than they are because of flaws in the questions.

charlou

27th January 2012, 04:58 PM

ayep .. I'm not impressed by the wording or the bias of either.

Of the two, I thought the first was more thought provocative, though.

borealis

27th January 2012, 05:12 PM

I got partway through that second quiz, but by around question 24 it had become so obviously US-centric that the questions were not answerable unless you took US issues and politics into consideration.

That I understand, However the first test has such leading questions and was clearly written by someone in the bottom left quadrant. It's completely cringe worthy for anyone from the bottom right quadrant, and will make them appear more authoritarian than they are because of flaws in the questions.

I wasn't happy with some of the questions in the first one either, but it at least didn't start dinging on current American issues (taxation, immigration, wars for oil) in quite as direct a fashion. Those questions are directly designed to elicit American political opinions on American issues. Not that those issues are not relevant in other countries, but the slant is clearly American, and the allowable answers leave no room for nuanced thinking on the questions. Plus some of the questions are entirely irrelevant in Canada - talk radio politics and gun rights, ffs. Canada doesn't have eleventy hundred weirdass political pundit driven radio stations. Gun ownership advocates in Canada are a small group and their issue has nothing to do with 'defending against tyranny', it's about wanting guns they can't have legally, not wanting to pay reg. fees, and mostly being cranky rural people who hate having to fill out forms.

The 'share some of your info' form at the end makes it quite clear the quiz is designed for Americans, as it has a pull down menu to insert your US State, not your Australian State or your Canadian Province or Territory. Weirdly, it does have a pull down menu to insert your political party for Canda, Australia, and the UK. And manages to leave out relevant parties such as Canada's Green Party.

Dirtyarris

27th January 2012, 05:39 PM

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -9.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.03

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-9.00&soc=-5.03

oblivion

27th January 2012, 06:34 PM

Hey, welcome to MindRomp, Dirtyarris!

andrewclunn

27th January 2012, 09:27 PM

I'm busy attempting to make a much better quiz. It deals with situational questions. Any suggestion for questions?

Cunt

28th January 2012, 12:52 AM

Sure! What intervention should a cop take when seeing a man in dirty clothes passed out downtown with a puddle of urine around him
1) nothing
2) talk to him and recommend a rehab centre
3) arrest for vagrancy
4) yank him to his feet and tell him to move on

I think situational would tell lots more, but I think I have the options messed a bit...

Grumps

30th January 2012, 01:09 AM

I'm not on it.

Quite the perfect post to follow Borealis's.

Dirtyarris

1st February 2012, 02:57 PM

Hey, welcome to MindRomp, Dirtyarris!

Thanks Oblivion, nice to be here :thumbsup:

Dirtyarris

1st February 2012, 04:41 PM

Won't let me edit my first post, so I will include the two results here:

Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: -9.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.03

http://www.politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-9.00&soc=-5.03


Compass:


You are a left moderate social libertarian.
Left: 7.31, Libertarian: 2.35


http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/5x25.gif

dug

2nd February 2012, 06:17 PM

You are a left social libertarian.
Left: 6.94, Libertarian: 3.72
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/6x27.gif
:nada:

ksen

2nd February 2012, 07:07 PM

You are a left social libertarian.
Left: 6.38, Libertarian: 4.76

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/7x30.gif

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/n8.gif

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/c21.gif

Imp

2nd February 2012, 08:33 PM

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/24x36.gif
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/n29.gif
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/c14.gif

Interesting.

nostrum

3rd February 2012, 02:48 AM

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/24x36.gif
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/n29.gif
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/c14.gif

Interesting.

:ohmy:

Cunt

3rd February 2012, 03:28 AM

Imp, did you have a similar name at RDF?

Imp

3rd February 2012, 04:35 AM

I was Imp there too, yes.

Cunt

3rd February 2012, 04:40 AM

.so not 'imperatorium' or somesuch?

Izdaari

3rd February 2012, 01:38 PM

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/24x36.gif
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/n29.gif
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/c14.gif

Interesting.

:ohmy:
If I'm counting correctly, that's three of us now in the lower right quadrant. :D

Cunt

3rd February 2012, 02:10 PM

Great, Izdaari! Tell your friends.

Now, how to we get the top quadrants filled?

ksen

3rd February 2012, 02:20 PM

Great, Izdaari! Tell your friends.

Now, how to we get the top quadrants filled?

Raid Free Republic for posters?

Imp

3rd February 2012, 04:30 PM

.so not 'imperatorium' or somesuch?

Nope, just Imp. Meatballs and everything.

Now, how to we get the top quadrants filled?

Probably start a different kind of forum...

divagreen

3rd February 2012, 08:13 PM

lol

Izdaari

3rd February 2012, 08:26 PM

.so not 'imperatorium' or somesuch?

Nope, just Imp. Meatballs and everything.

Now, how to we get the top quadrants filled?

Probably start a different kind of forum...
Yep. This doesn't seem like the sort of place authoritarians would like. :happyno:

divagreen

3rd February 2012, 08:26 PM

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/9x26.gif

I think that mine is pretty consistent with the other test! :)

nostrum

12th May 2015, 11:48 PM

bump

ETA down with rightists

gib

12th May 2015, 11:53 PM

define rightists, isn't it though

nostrum

12th May 2015, 11:55 PM

anyone reading, who feels slighted, is who I'm talking about

Timewave

13th May 2015, 12:02 AM

Do you know what I hate! What I really hate?
People who say they worked hard for their money and place in life who inherited money.

If you inherited money you won the lottery in life.
There is nothing special about you except you are very likely to be a complete arsehole.
What you are is lying to yourself and the world if you claim 'I work hard for my money, everyone else should have to as well.'

You are a sick pathetic lie!!!

Majiffy

13th May 2015, 04:12 AM

anyone reading, who feels slighted, is who I'm talking about
:noo:

nostrum

13th May 2015, 04:54 AM

:cheer:

borealis

17th May 2015, 01:17 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFGZyh6VIAAFAQP.png

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--RYn5nskZ--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/rkmqghyr9juyk3hiyhh8.jpg

http://gawker.com/mitt-romney-has-a-posse-1704945545

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--ahflU2QO--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/bij6tnrriuu1mdjxoqnd.gif

nostrum

17th May 2015, 01:34 AM

:stare:

spruce

17th May 2015, 01:43 AM

http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/13x14.gif

Foreign Policy:
On the left side are pacifists and anti-war activists. On the right side are those who want a strong military that intervenes around the world. You scored: -4.73
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/n26.gif

Culture:
Where are you in the culture war? On the liberal side, or the conservative side? This scale may apply more to the US than other countries. You scored: 0.06
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/c50.gif

That's not how I would have rated myself.

borealis

17th May 2015, 01:45 AM

authoritarian lefty - that's gotta be a struggle at times, spruce.

borealis

17th May 2015, 01:45 AM

:stare:

:sadyes:

spruce

17th May 2015, 01:46 AM

But HEY! I'm apparently like the only Authoritarian on our site, so y'all should like obey me and stuff. 'k?

borealis

17th May 2015, 01:47 AM

:nope:

We just really like to pet you and stuff, maybe that feels like you're being obeyed.

Majiffy

17th May 2015, 06:44 PM

authoritarian lefty - that's gotta be a struggle at times, spruce.

http://i.imgur.com/lb7BcI8.jpg

Carlsson

17th May 2015, 07:49 PM

who is the guy on the left

Carlsson

17th May 2015, 07:50 PM

nevermind, i solved it

Majiffy

17th May 2015, 08:04 PM

Wow

Majiffy

17th May 2015, 08:33 PM

Compass
http://i.imgur.com/dkBZFqx.png

Gotoquiz
http://i.imgur.com/GfmsefG.gif
http://i.imgur.com/itzanGi.gif
http://i.imgur.com/tkKoQXS.gif

borealis

17th May 2015, 08:52 PM

I appear to have moved even further left since the last time I did this one. :dinosaur:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-7.88&soc=-8.82

Majiffy

17th May 2015, 09:27 PM

TIL an old hoagie is more of a libertarian leftist than me. :stare:

borealis

17th May 2015, 09:34 PM

Honey, I was putting up posters for Black Panther lectures in Canada before your parents were old enough to screw.

Majiffy

17th May 2015, 09:44 PM

:fistbump:

gib

18th May 2015, 10:27 PM

UK:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/images/uk2015.png
http://www.politicalcompass.org/uk2015



Australia:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/images/aus2013.png

http://www.politicalcompass.org/aus2013




Canada:
http://www.politicalcompass.org/images/canada2011.png

http://www.politicalcompass.org/canada2011



Murica:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/images/us2012.png
http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2012

Majiffy

18th May 2015, 11:12 PM

Brb joining the UK Green Party.

Majiffy

18th May 2015, 11:13 PM

I have found my peoples and they drink tea.

:ergh:

nostrum

18th May 2015, 11:13 PM

ha ha, no left anything in Murica

(sob, look at Aus. Look at it!)

spruce

18th May 2015, 11:16 PM

OK, so I took the coloured on, and it seemed a little more correct, but the authoritarian in me says, "No!"

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-4.5&soc=-1.85

In fact, it's starting to bug me now, so I'm gonna just nonchalantly move my dot right about 9 places and up 3-4 so I don't develop any personality splits.

bunny foo foo

18th May 2015, 11:35 PM

In fact, it's starting to bug me now, so I'm gonna just nonchalantly move my dot right about 9 places and up 3-4 so I don't develop any personality splits.

I got ya covered, bro.

gib

18th May 2015, 11:42 PM

Brb joining the UK Green Party.

http://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,46200.0.html

Majiffy

18th May 2015, 11:59 PM

ha ha, no left anything in Murica

(sob, look at Aus. Look at it!)
Is One Nation as much of an Aryan Nationalism front as it sounds?

Brb joining the UK Green Party.

http://www.cookdandbombd.co.uk/forums/index.php/topic,46200.0.html
Apart from the level of spending put towards the citizen wage, the rejection of nuclear, alternative medicine, and removal of all armed forces, that all seems entirely sensible and probably necessary for a sustainable future.
:nod: :nod: :nod: :nod:


Waaaait

Apart from the level of spending put towards the citizen wage, the rejection of nuclear, alternative medicine, and removal of all armed forces, that all seems entirely sensible and probably necessary for a sustainable future.
u fok'n wot m8

Alternative medicine is to medicine as Justin Bieber is to Pink Floyd.

Majiffy

19th May 2015, 12:00 AM

Wiki The party is a far-right nationalist organisation. The party ideology is therefore referred to as nationalist, but also hold a strong conservative platform, which plays a major role in the party policies, along with a populist and socialist platform. With these ideologies, the party has been identified to voters as Neo-Nazi and Racist. However, Pauline Hanson and other party members have always denied these claims, including Hanson saying on many occasions that she is not a racist, and that "critisism is not racism", which is referring to her comments about immigration and race. Hanson has also said that she enjoys the company of other ethnicities and welcomes people to Australia wherever their origin, but just does not want other cultures to become overly infuenced on Australia

Ahahaha it totally is.

nostrum

19th May 2015, 12:12 AM

yabbut...spent force (actually, never a force)

gib

19th May 2015, 12:21 AM

Alternative medicine is to medicine as Justin Bieber is to Pink Floyd.

if people want to try curing their gout with crystals, acupuncture and exotic herbs they should be free to do so

OmicronPersei8

19th May 2015, 12:48 AM

Plaid cymru

borealis

19th May 2015, 12:51 AM

Plaid cymru

Hard not to vote for them just for the party name.

Majiffy

19th May 2015, 01:06 AM

R-E-S-P-E-C-T
Come on down and vote for me
R-E-S-P-E-C-T

Socialist
Dictators

Come on

nostrum

19th May 2015, 01:48 AM

Alternative medicine is to medicine as Justin Bieber is to Pink Floyd.

if people want to try curing their gout with crystals, acupuncture and exotic herbs they should be free to do so

but what about the albatrosses?!?!?!

Hermit

19th May 2015, 02:17 AM

Wiki The party is a far-right nationalist organisation. The party ideology is therefore referred to as nationalist, but also hold a strong conservative platform, which plays a major role in the party policies, along with a populist and socialist platform. With these ideologies, the party has been identified to voters as Neo-Nazi and Racist. However, Pauline Hanson and other party members have always denied these claims, including Hanson saying on many occasions that she is not a racist, and that "critisism is not racism", which is referring to her comments about immigration and race. Hanson has also said that she enjoys the company of other ethnicities and welcomes people to Australia wherever their origin, but just does not want other cultures to become overly infuenced on Australia

Ahahaha it totally is.
yabbut...spent force (actually, never a force)
That is the good news. The bad news is the reason why One Nation has become a spent force: The curiously named Liberal Party under John Howard appropriated One Nation's policies and along with its traditional partner, the National Country Party (Cunts for short) won election after election. After a few years of Labor governments (which in relation to racism are almost indistinguishable from the coalition) the Libs resumed governing with even greater reactionary vigour under Tony Abbott, and that's the pot we are broiling in right now.

Majiffy

19th May 2015, 02:31 AM

Ya'll just need me to come down there and fix yer shit.

http://i.imgur.com/VVq74e4.jpg

Timewave

19th May 2015, 03:00 AM

Wiki The party is a far-right nationalist organisation. The party ideology is therefore referred to as nationalist, but also hold a strong conservative platform, which plays a major role in the party policies, along with a populist and socialist platform. With these ideologies, the party has been identified to voters as Neo-Nazi and Racist. However, Pauline Hanson and other party members have always denied these claims, including Hanson saying on many occasions that she is not a racist, and that "critisism is not racism", which is referring to her comments about immigration and race. Hanson has also said that she enjoys the company of other ethnicities and welcomes people to Australia wherever their origin, but just does not want other cultures to become overly infuenced on Australia

Ahahaha it totally is.

Wow, I thought I was a leftie. But reading the hanson manifestio, it makes perfect sense.

I want the australia I grew up in in the 1969's. All that hippie free love and no responsibilities and no natives or other colours or anything.
An religion was a dirty word, an egos weren't a dirty word an men were men and women were glad of it and drank lemonade down one end of the hall will the men tapped kegs of beer at the other.

Wow, I'm feeling nostalgic. what a shame we can't go back there:christyes:
an never a poof was sighted.:nope:

nostrum

19th May 2015, 03:10 AM

Wiki The party is a far-right nationalist organisation. The party ideology is therefore referred to as nationalist, but also hold a strong conservative platform, which plays a major role in the party policies, along with a populist and socialist platform. With these ideologies, the party has been identified to voters as Neo-Nazi and Racist. However, Pauline Hanson and other party members have always denied these claims, including Hanson saying on many occasions that she is not a racist, and that "critisism is not racism", which is referring to her comments about immigration and race. Hanson has also said that she enjoys the company of other ethnicities and welcomes people to Australia wherever their origin, but just does not want other cultures to become overly infuenced on Australia

Ahahaha it totally is.
yabbut...spent force (actually, never a force)
That is the good news. The bad news is the reason why One Nation has become a spent force: The curiously named Liberal Party under John Howard appropriated One Nation's policies and along with its traditional partner, the National Country Party (Cunts for short) won election after election. After a few years of Labor governments (which in relation to racism are almost indistinguishable from the coalition) the Libs resumed governing with even greater reactionary vigour under Tony Abbott, and that's the pot we are broiling in right now.

:noo:

Timewave

19th May 2015, 05:07 AM

Ya'll just need me to come down there and fix yer shit.

http://i.imgur.com/VVq74e4.jpg

Come down with your free shit?
I think we have enough of our own thanks mate.:colbert:

gib

19th May 2015, 01:51 PM

Plaid cymru

Hard not to vote for them just for the party name.

plied cum-roo btw

Tere

19th May 2015, 05:36 PM

Cum ree. U at the end. Bloody Welsh.

gib

19th May 2015, 06:09 PM

yes

Gonzo

30th July 2015, 05:12 PM

http://www.playbuzz.com/felixstablum10/the-definitive-political-orientation-test?fb_ref=210_SNR

You're on the left and collective quadrant of the political compass! You value the role of big government in providing all citizens with essential services and you believe that government's job is to guarantee equality. You favor higher taxes on the rich and believe in more publicly funded programs for the disadvantaged. You're skeptical of the free market and you think that too much individualism is dangerous. You hold many communitarian values and you support limiting certain individual freedoms for the good of society. You're compassionate, idealistic and dedicated to your community...

Pretty right on, that's all true to me.

I should be set closer between Democratic Socialism and Socialism, as I also firmly believe that democracy would work if everyone voted, but close enough.

The problem is that we, as Americans, rely on the ideal of the free market so much that we think how we spend our money alone can solve social issues. While it's important that we have conscience about where our money is going, it is simply not enough without an educated, voting populace. Flooding politics with money, for example, does nothing but corrupt.

http://mindromp.org/forum/picture.php?albumid=3&pictureid=63

Gonzo

30th July 2015, 05:17 PM

By "we as Americans", I do not mean to include the MindRomp community in that, as many are not from the USA. I mean to speak from my personal perspective on why my political beliefs have shaped this way.

Hermit

30th July 2015, 06:00 PM

http://mindromp.org/forum/showthread.php?t=213

Zeluvia

30th July 2015, 08:15 PM

yeah and you didn't link which test this was either gonzo

you might be a bit too far north there

gib

30th July 2015, 08:19 PM

Activism looks odd stuck between the 2 libertarianisms

gib

30th July 2015, 08:20 PM

yeah and you didn't link which test this was either gonzo

you might be a bit too far north there

only a little further north and gonzo would be a certified nazi

Gonzo

30th July 2015, 08:23 PM

yeah and you didn't link which test this was either gonzo


Whoops, added to the OP. Meant to include it.


you might be a bit too far north there

That's what I was saying. :shrugguy:

Either the test isn't accurate enough or it's a reflection of my belief that the state could be benevolent if it were an arm of the people (particularly through direct democracy and worker's control over the means of production and labor), which in my 'book' is the only way that it should be.

Zeluvia

30th July 2015, 08:28 PM

okay it's a half assed test. In fact, it has about half of the questions of the other popular tests.

Gonzo

30th July 2015, 08:29 PM

yeah and you didn't link which test this was either gonzo

you might be a bit too far north there

only a little further north and gonzo would be a certified nazi

Yeah, but without all that genocide and racism.

Nazis were frauds, they called themselves Socialists but the term loses it's meaning under a tyrannical authoritative style dictatorships. Nazi Germany was so far off the pulse of reality, I don't think it should be taken into account as often as it is.

Many proclaimed socialist and communist dictators were really just fascists who favored corporate control (i.e. Stalin) or a single-class system that applied to everyone but themselves and the hand picked (i.e. Castro).

Gonzo

30th July 2015, 08:31 PM

okay it's a half assed test. In fact, it has about half of the questions of the other popular tests.

Agreed, I've taken others before and I almost never get placed near statism, but I have become increasingly distrustful about libertarian views over time as being very practical.

Zeluvia

30th July 2015, 08:35 PM

okay it's a half assed test. In fact, it has about half of the questions of the other popular tests.

Agreed, I've taken others before and I almost never get placed near statism, but I have become increasingly distrustful about libertarian views over time as being very practical.


strangely enough a fast comparison shows your test is almost completely missing any mention of the words "corporation" and "environment"

hmm....

libertarian SOCIAL views are practical, it's when their economic views got tangled up with those fucking nutcase Randians and Social Darwinism that they go off the rails...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwDpAfFzcRQ


I mean does he really think those pants look GOOD on him?

Zeluvia

30th July 2015, 08:38 PM

the board keeps trying to tell me this thread does not exist :morningcoffee:

Gonzo

30th July 2015, 08:40 PM

I just put my thread into ob's thread since I forgot about this one.

Jerome

30th July 2015, 09:02 PM

Looks like some people failed the test.

At first glance, the statement did not appear menacing. I was told I could expect to receive a benefit of “about $2,136 a month” upon reaching age 70 — which certainly seems like good news. But immediately I thought of a parallel of President Obama’s infamous Obamacare promise: “If you like your Social Security, you can keep your Social Security.”

Then, as if on cue, I saw an asterisk with the following message:

The law governing benefit amounts may change because, by 2033, the payroll taxes collected will be enough to pay only about 77 percent of scheduled benefits.

I could not believe I was seeing the equivalent of what I was just thinking, but with a new twist, “If I like my Social Security, I can keep 77 percent of it.”

With an asterisk, my beloved government was informing me that they will be unable to fulfill their part of a financial arrangement into which, as their statement attested, I had been making mandatory contributions starting in 1971 at age 16.

This impending “benefit rationing,” reducing my future financial “security” by $492 a month, may, in fact, not be the worst of it.

Sitting in the back of my Social Security file was an earlier statement dated March 10, 2009. Again, followed by an asterisk was a sentence that read exactly like my 2015 statement except for two major differences (emphasis added):

The law governing benefit amounts may change because, by 2041, the payroll taxes collected will be enough to pay only about 78 percent of your scheduled benefits.

Clearly, in 2009, the government’s prediction — that Social Security would have to be cut to 78 percent of benefits come 2041 — was overly optimistic.

Now, in 2015, they are projecting 2033, eight years earlier, with one percentage point less of my projected benefits. The projections have steadily worsened over the past few years, helped by a much weaker economy than the federal government expected. Does anyone really expect these numbers to get better?

The skepticism I felt when I saw my initial monthly benefit was entirely justified. There are just too many Baby Boomers and too many financial promises with elected leaders too afraid to inflict the necessary pain of real reform.











http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421790/social-security-bankruptcy-statement-baby-boomers

Jerome

30th July 2015, 09:11 PM

You're on the right and libertarian quadrant of the political spectrum! You prize individualism and personal liberty above all else. You believe in private property and the free market. You tend to be patriotic but you're sceptical of the state and you find little to no value in government institutions. You believe that success depends on the individual's ability to pull themselves up by their own boot straps and take advantage of the opportunities they have. You see taxes as a form of oppression and you believe that the greatest threat to freedom is big government. You believe in a society of independent and hard-working individuals who take care of themselves. You want big brother out of your bedroom, out of your bank account, and off your property!

:smug:

Gonzo

30th July 2015, 09:23 PM

:trump:

Jerome

30th July 2015, 09:30 PM

http://robbieblair.com/images/blogger/-HY01j2WwkKo/TqYzgqIbmKI/AAAAAAAAADo/n3goGVl5zCI/s1600/obama-corporate-welfare.jpg

Jerome

30th July 2015, 09:30 PM

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/150121113330-health-insurers-surge-780x439.png

Jerome

30th July 2015, 09:36 PM

http://openyoureyesnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/gmo.png

Zeluvia

30th July 2015, 09:41 PM

Jerome, have you watched the show "Continuum"?

Gonzo

30th July 2015, 09:45 PM

Retook the OP test. I can't see my original results because the image broke, but this is how it usually looks for me.

:shrug:

http://mindromp.org/forum/picture.php?albumid=3&pictureid=64

Jerome

30th July 2015, 09:55 PM

Jerome, have you watched the show "Continuum"?

No, is is about people that keep voting for someone because they say they will give them free stuff, but instead tax the worker to give big corp welfare?

Jerome

30th July 2015, 10:00 PM

heh, just looked it up, sounds about right

The crazy thing to me is the emotional involvement people get over political parties, particularly when they get bent over on a consistent basis.

For example, Obama doubled down on Bush policies, but the idiot class still thinks they are different administrations.

Majiffy

30th July 2015, 11:38 PM

Gonzo :hug:

Jerome :hug: :halffrog:

Zeluvia

31st July 2015, 12:26 AM

So, Gonzo, now the question is what is the political agenda of the original site on which you took the half assed do not mention corporations test?

Gonzo

31st July 2015, 12:30 AM

Clickbait?

Jerome

31st July 2015, 12:39 AM

Viral content publisher Playbuzz, having mastered the Internet—to the tune of 80 million monthly unique visitors—is taking on New York City and the rest of the world.
The company, founded in 2012 by Shaul Olmert (son of former Israeli prime minister Ehud Olmert) and Tom Pachys, on Wednesday morning announced a new $16 million Series B funding round. (Playbuzz has previously raised $3.8 million, according to a Crunchbase (https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/playbuzz) tally.)
The money will be spent on the company's brand new New York office, as well as future offices in Asia and Europe. Playbuzz is also investing in video formats, Olmert told Capital, and is expanding the tools available to its publishers (mostly external companies that use Playbuzz's content-creation tools).


http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/media/2015/03/8564276/viral-content-upstart-playbuzz-raises-16-million-funding-round

Zeluvia

31st July 2015, 01:21 AM

heh, just looked it up, sounds about right

The crazy thing to me is the emotional involvement people get over political parties, particularly when they get bent over on a consistent basis.

For example, Obama doubled down on Bush policies, but the idiot class still thinks they are different administrations.

It ends this year. I watched season 1, liked it, and decided to wait for it to complete and then watch it all.



http://orig11.deviantart.net/4c31/f/2012/047/f/2/no_don_quixote__by_aragnael-d4pw9ce.jpg

TestyCalibrate

31st July 2015, 08:57 AM

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-7.0&soc=-4.72
https://www.politicalcompass.org/images/axeswithnames.gif
Not particularly surprising.

nostrum

31st July 2015, 09:04 AM

always knew you were a good egg

Kami

31st July 2015, 09:50 AM

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-7.5&soc=-6.36

Cunt

31st July 2015, 10:47 PM

I don't really understand politics as well as I should, and some of the questions were a bit tough to answer in the limited way allowed. Plus, being out of the US, I had to tackle fresh the idea of a 'one-party state' with only a fuzzy idea of US political divisions.

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee174/Darren8306/Untitled-1-2.jpg

Seems I have gotten a wee bit higher and righter in the past while. Or this Kimchi is better than I thought.
https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-4.75&soc=-5.59

Majiffy

1st August 2015, 12:47 AM

Glad to see we're all a bunch of Commie Anarchists.


Jerome. :stuckup:

Jerome

1st August 2015, 02:06 AM

You guys don't seem to believe the reality presented right before your eyes over and over again.

Giving power to government does not help people, it only takes from the working class to give to the elite class.

Your political thoughts are based upon feelings as opposed to tangible realities.

:shrug:

Majiffy

1st August 2015, 02:15 AM

You guys don't seem to believe the reality presented right before your eyes over and over again.

Giving power to government does not help people, it only takes from the working class to give to the elite class.

Your political thoughts are based upon feelings as opposed to tangible realities.

:shrug:
Maybe you missed the part where we're staunchly anti-authoritarian/statist.

Jerome

1st August 2015, 02:44 AM

That's where the ignorance in the face of demonstrable reality comes in.

You don't understand that the massive taxes you pay, and the regulations you are required to follow, are in fact a demonstration of oppressive authoritarianism. These 'tests' hide that fact in their questions. They trick you into supporting authoritarianism without understanding you are supporting authoritarianism. The questions are setup for you to 'feel good' about your answers, whilst actually promoting you supporting your own oppression under the elite class.

Gonzo

1st August 2015, 02:53 AM

You guys don't seem to believe the reality presented right before your eyes over and over again.

Giving power to government does not help people, it only takes from the working class to give to the elite class.

Your political thoughts are based upon feelings as opposed to tangible realities.

:shrug:
Maybe you missed the part where we're staunchly anti-authoritarian/statist.

Or the part where government is meant to foster equality and act as an arm of the people. Just because it isn't always that way doesn't mean it shouldn't be expected to be.

Jerome

1st August 2015, 03:12 AM

Or the part where government is meant to foster equality and act as an arm of the people.

See, there we go with the 'feels' type questions to get people to support authoritarian rule.

For example, government 'fostered equality' by making it easy for everyone to go to college, and the reality is the elite class got fat rich off of students saddled with a mortgage for their education before they even have a job.

Cunt

1st August 2015, 03:56 AM

The government is not 'them', the government is us.
When someone talks about government as 'them', you can bet they don't understand, or participate in their government.

Timewave

1st August 2015, 07:59 AM

Part of what jerome is saying is true.
The Australian, Canadian and English governments are all more authoritarian. more bureaucratically controlled and regulated than the USA government or 3rd world governments.

Any social democratic system has to be because you take tax off everyone and then give it back through social security, pensions, medical safety net. etc. etc, etc.
Come on you people. You must know the american sytem of least government control, most free market place was meant to run that way with least tax?

I learnt that in economics in high school.
But, pure capitalism failed as much as communism failed.
The social democracies of the western world except the usa tried to shore up and provide a safety net and many many regulations for the capitalist system.

The US of Americans? They just went paranoid crazy and set up a government that controled is by a military complex. What do you call it when a country is run by the army?
In secret, in the background of course. But they are run by there army.

Jerome

1st August 2015, 02:03 PM

The government is not 'them', the government is us.


That was the original purpose in the US, yes. But when was the last time the power structure allowed you a choice of someone not offered from within the elite power structure for high level office?

See, your statement shows that you are intentionally blind to the reality, it shows you are focused on the 'feels'.

Jerome

1st August 2015, 02:27 PM

Any social democratic system has to be because you take tax off everyone and then give it back through social security, pensions, medical safety net. etc. etc, etc.

Why does a single working mother barley living pay check to pay check need to pay tax to fund a rich person's retirement?

Did you read the link I posted earlier? The woman that has been paying into the system 40 years is told that her benefits will be expected to be cut by 23% by the time she is eligible.

Come on you people. You must know the american sytem of least government control, most free market place was meant to run that way with least tax?Propaganda. Our system is extremely regulated. Government picks winners and losers all the time. The system has been regulated for the multinational corporations to be able to dominate markets and force most everyone to be wage slaves to said corporations.


The social democracies of the western world except the usa tried to shore up and provide a safety net and many many regulations for the capitalist system.Safety net? lol, we provide a life style greater than that of the average working household in many cases.

For example, the combined safety net benefits in Hawaii can reach as high as a $60,590 lifestyle, compared to the median household income in Hawaii of $29,516.

The system is up side down. The working class is funding a better lifestyle for the non-workers than they have for themselves.

https://lintvkhon.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/the_work_versus_welfare_trade-off_2013_wp.pdf

The US of Americans? They just went paranoid crazy and set up a government that controled is by a military complex. What do you call it when a country is run by the army?
In secret, in the background of course. But they are run by there army.I agree. Countries in Europe, plus Canada and Australia, all the western nations should be funding their own defense, or at least paying us some sort of protection fee.

Rhys

1st August 2015, 03:10 PM

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-7.25&soc=-5.74

borealis

1st August 2015, 03:25 PM

I appear to have moved even further left since the last time I did this one. :dinosaur:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-7.88&soc=-8.82

I may be the leftiest MR member. :unsure:

Jerome

1st August 2015, 03:54 PM

Coming to a western democracy near you!

First victim of Spain’s 'gag law' fined for criticising 'lazy' police

Eduardo Díaz described his local police force as "slackers" on Facebook and a few hours later, they turned up on his doorstep and fined him



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/11771851/First-victim-of-Spains-gag-law-fined-for-criticising-lazy-police.html

Hermit

1st August 2015, 04:41 PM

Economic Left/Right: -10.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.03

Almost fallen off the map. I have done this quiz three times in the past several years and gotten more extreme with each repeat. Luckily I don't take the quiz seriously at all. It's just too superficial and too badly framed to be seen as much more than entertainment.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-10.0&soc=-9.03

Majiffy

1st August 2015, 04:49 PM

I appear to have moved even further left since the last time I did this one. :dinosaur:

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-7.88&soc=-8.82

I may be the leftiest MR member. :unsure:

Somethingsomething black panthers

Cunt

1st August 2015, 04:54 PM

The government is not 'them', the government is us.


That was the original purpose in the US, yes. But when was the last time the power structure allowed you a choice of someone not offered from within the elite power structure for high level office?

See, your statement shows that you are intentionally blind to the reality, it shows you are focused on the 'feels'.

When is the last time you ran for office?Met with elected officials to affect change? Attended a city hall meeting?

borealis

1st August 2015, 04:58 PM

Economic Left/Right: -10.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.03

Almost fallen off the map. I have done this quiz three times in the past several years and gotten more extreme with each repeat. Luckily I don't take the quiz seriously at all. It's just too superficial and too badly framed to be seen as much more than entertainment.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-10.0&soc=-9.03

Lol beat me.

It is superficial, and there are questions to which the provided selections of answers are insufficient to cover my and likely everyone else's actual opinions.

Cunt

1st August 2015, 05:26 PM

Economic Left/Right: -10.0
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.03

Almost fallen off the map. I have done this quiz three times in the past several years and gotten more extreme with each repeat. Luckily I don't take the quiz seriously at all. It's just too superficial and too badly framed to be seen as much more than entertainment.

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-10.0&soc=-9.03

Lol beat me.

It is superficial, and there are questions to which the provided selections of answers are insufficient to cover my and likely everyone else's actual opinions.

The funny thing is, I thought I was conservative :)

I guess it's the company I keep.

borealis

1st August 2015, 05:36 PM

In some senses you may very well be conservative, Cunt. Probably part of the reason I get so goddamned mad at your posts sometimes, because I perceive you 60% of the time as an informed social leftist, then the other 40% it just looks (to me) like you've bought into some of the most annoying (imo) mythologies of the right.

I suspect there's a bit of cultural divide as well. Americans, and quite a few Canadians, like to think of Canada as culturally a little America, but it's far more nuanced and the differences may be more profound than are easily perceived. I know irl, talking to visiting or expat Americans, I've experienced plenty of those moments where you just internally raise an eyebrow at what you're hearing fall out of the mouths of apparently normal ordinary people and say nothing because what's the point of ruining a pleasant interlude?

Jerome

1st August 2015, 06:01 PM

I've experienced plenty of those moments where you just internally raise an eyebrow at what you're hearing fall out of the mouths of apparently normal ordinary people...

Consider the psychology here, if one does not have the exact proper views, one is not a normal person.

That is pure cult indoctrination psychology.

Jerome

1st August 2015, 06:04 PM

Cunt, you deflected. You did this because the answer to the question undermines your position. Instead of rationally considering the question, you go on the attack so as to not have to deal with the consequence of having your 'feels' disrupted.

borealis

1st August 2015, 06:13 PM

I've experienced plenty of those moments where you just internally raise an eyebrow at what you're hearing fall out of the mouths of apparently normal ordinary people...

Consider the psychology here, if one does not have the exact proper views, one is not a normal person.

That is pure cult indoctrination psychology.

Typical of you to deny that cultural differences between two populations exist, and that common courtesy in daily human encounters ensures that those differences are rarely confronted.

And as usual, you completely either fail to understand what is being said, or worse, understand and misrepresent it to place it in the worst false light possible.

Jerome

1st August 2015, 06:22 PM

Borealis, you just called people that have different thoughts than you abnormal.

That is pure cult indoctrination psychology.

Kami

1st August 2015, 06:40 PM

jerome always confuses me

:frog:

borealis

1st August 2015, 06:43 PM

Jerome confuses himself.

Zeluvia

1st August 2015, 07:02 PM

Borealis, you just called people that have different thoughts than you abnormal.

That is pure cult indoctrination psychology.

I completely agree.

It is pretty clear that the Canadian public education system has indoctrinated everyone in Canada with being polite and reasonable.

Hopefully more exposure to the internet will free them of their shackles, and borealis will be able to overcome her unwillingness to spoil a pleasant interlude by going off the rails on some crazy but personally relevant tangentially related crusade.

Jerome

1st August 2015, 07:15 PM

Borealis, do you know Jerome of Sandy Cove?

borealis

1st August 2015, 07:27 PM

Borealis, do you know Jerome of Sandy Cove?

He's been dead a long time.

I know the story, it is of course well known in Nova Scotia.

Majiffy

1st August 2015, 07:27 PM

Borealis, you just called people that have different thoughts than you abnormal.

That is pure cult indoctrination psychology.

Some thoughts are abnormal, though. Im speaking of those ideas purported that support inequality, culturally or economically.

Unless youd like to deny those notions exist.

Jerome

1st August 2015, 08:48 PM

Some thoughts are abnormal, though. Im speaking of those ideas purported that support inequality, culturally or economically.


But what do you mean by those words in context of politics?

I am sure you are for a progressive income tax, that's by definition inequality ..

Jerome

1st August 2015, 09:39 PM

jerome always confuses me



Which aspect?

Kami

1st August 2015, 09:58 PM

http://onehallyu.com/topic/204361-where-are-you-on-the-political-compass/

i asked my home forum too
:frog::frog::frog:

all similar responses tbh

borealis

1st August 2015, 10:16 PM

Hee. All us old people are way more leftist than you sweet young things. :hehe:

Jerome

1st August 2015, 10:34 PM

Pretty much everyone on both sites is more authoritarian than I am.

Now what is interesting are the questions themselves, for example :

"Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment."

The question presumes some higher entity controlling these economic stats. The question disallows any proper answer as it is a push question.

And how is that scored? Left if you want to control unemployment more than inflation, right if the reverse? That doesn't really make sense.

What about controlling unemployment through controlling inflation because unemployment is more important? That is not an option.

The poll is set-up to put people in a certain quadrant all do to the way the questions are worded.


How is this one scored?

"There are no savage and civilised peoples; there are only different cultures. "

Is the leftist answer no?

It is savage to kill homosexuals, it is savage to punish a woman for being raped. That is a savage culture to do those horrors, but the 'feel' good answer is everyone is equal, its all morally relative ...

Hermit

1st August 2015, 10:43 PM

"Controlling inflation is more important than controlling unemployment."

The question presumes some higher entity controlling these economic stats.
The question assumes that inflation can be controlled or that unemployment can be controlled. The assumption may be wrong. Be it as it may, there are no other assumptions.

Majiffy

1st August 2015, 11:38 PM

But what do you mean by those words in context of politics?

I am sure you are for a progressive income tax, that's by definition inequality ..
Actually a flat tax is a better idea IMO.

But I'm talking about the perpetuation of racist and classist laws, and the culture surrounding them, including the continued lean towards militarization of police forces, stop & frisk laws, anything else that targets minorities and the poor. Throw in mandatory minimums for drug possession, a lack of proper immigration reform, education inequalities that are often skewed against poor, inner city areas, and the continued unchecked inflation of higher education costs, and we're basically stewing the pot for continued inequality for generations.

Cunt

2nd August 2015, 01:00 AM

In some senses you may very well be conservative, Cunt. Probably part of the reason I get so goddamned mad at your posts sometimes, because I perceive you 60% of the time as an informed social leftist, then the other 40% it just looks (to me) like you've bought into some of the most annoying (imo) mythologies of the right.
Here is an idea - maybe I AM informed, and still don't agree with you on some of the finer points.


I suspect there's a bit of cultural divide as well. Americans, and quite a few Canadians, like to think of Canada as culturally a little America, but it's far more nuanced and the differences may be more profound than are easily perceived. I know irl, talking to visiting or expat Americans, I've experienced plenty of those moments where you just internally raise an eyebrow at what you're hearing fall out of the mouths of apparently normal ordinary people and say nothing because what's the point of ruining a pleasant interlude?Please ruin the interlude. That is what I am here for.

My guess is, that if people asked questions about my more contraversial statements, rather than making assumptions, they would find reason behind them. I may have poor reasons at times, but I do have reasons.