Editing threads (yes, this old chestnut) page 1
nostrum
23rd December 2011, 04:18 AM
Ob had the setting to 1 minute for ordinary members being able to edit their posts. I understand this is the minimum setting possible (ob, please correct me if I'm wrong.)
One minute just doesn't work, as a slow internet connection is enough to stymie even the quickest attempt to fix a typo, and will frustrate those members who jump through the hoops to do so, only to receive the "sorry you can't edit this post" and then have to go repost if necessary.
The majority consensus was for no/minimal editing time IIRC, with a couple of people wanting NO edits.
I'd prefer to have No edits than a one minute window. I guess the question is, do we wish for a no edit policy, or a minimal-yet-practicable window for edits (knowing that there is an audit trail for the original post, if the content changes dramatically) ?
ETA either way new members need to be made aware of this.
One minute just doesn't work, as a slow internet connection is enough to stymie even the quickest attempt to fix a typo, and will frustrate those members who jump through the hoops to do so, only to receive the "sorry you can't edit this post" and then have to go repost if necessary.
The majority consensus was for no/minimal editing time IIRC, with a couple of people wanting NO edits.
I'd prefer to have No edits than a one minute window. I guess the question is, do we wish for a no edit policy, or a minimal-yet-practicable window for edits (knowing that there is an audit trail for the original post, if the content changes dramatically) ?
ETA either way new members need to be made aware of this.
oblivion
23rd December 2011, 04:30 AM
I *think* I've changed the edit window to 2 hours for now. Are you still restricted to 1 minute?
charlou
23rd December 2011, 04:32 AM
I agree that new members should be aware of the edit situation.
I'm of two lines of thought on it atm ... I like NO edits for a few reasons
* It's closest to real life interaction
* Once it's out there and others may have read it, it's more open to simply explain and alter anything in a new post.
* Typos are a fact of life ... no biggie.
* reduces dishonesty and/or misrepresentation
On the pro short edit window side ...
* admins have the edit privilege, so it's only fair
* typos can be fixed in that time frame
* an immediately regretted comment can be adjusted
* an immediately recognised slip of accuracy or discretion can be adjusted (example, if the poster meant to click on PM instead of quote ... this particular example is more an issue on phpBB, but something like that)
I'm of two lines of thought on it atm ... I like NO edits for a few reasons
* It's closest to real life interaction
* Once it's out there and others may have read it, it's more open to simply explain and alter anything in a new post.
* Typos are a fact of life ... no biggie.
* reduces dishonesty and/or misrepresentation
On the pro short edit window side ...
* admins have the edit privilege, so it's only fair
* typos can be fixed in that time frame
* an immediately regretted comment can be adjusted
* an immediately recognised slip of accuracy or discretion can be adjusted (example, if the poster meant to click on PM instead of quote ... this particular example is more an issue on phpBB, but something like that)
nostrum
23rd December 2011, 04:32 AM
crosspost elouise
@ ob: Oh no, I'm fine now, thanks. It's just to work out what the policy will be.
@ ob: Oh no, I'm fine now, thanks. It's just to work out what the policy will be.
charlou
23rd December 2011, 04:44 AM
Of the two lines of thought, on balance, I favour a short edit window .. I'd be okay with a two hour window, but prefer the half hour as it further limits editing to the latter three pros I listed above.
admin privilege ... difficult to avoid ... admins can edit anyone at any time. That is more a matter of trust, vigilance and care .. it does have an element of seperation ... I don't know if there's anything that can be done about that except take it on board and not exploit it.
admin privilege ... difficult to avoid ... admins can edit anyone at any time. That is more a matter of trust, vigilance and care .. it does have an element of seperation ... I don't know if there's anything that can be done about that except take it on board and not exploit it.
nostrum
23rd December 2011, 05:39 AM
Of the two lines of thought, on balance, I favour a short edit window .. I'd be okay with a two hour window, but prefer the half hour as it further limits editing to the latter three pros I listed above.
admin privilege ... difficult to avoid ... admins can edit anyone at any time. That is more a matter of trust, vigilance and care .. it does have an element of seperation ... I don't know if there's anything that can be done about that except take it on board and not exploit it.
I agree with this, also.
Re admin privilege, well if the "edited by... and time..." etc info is not removable by admins, then any personal post edit outside the 2hr window will show up and there is accountability there.
admin privilege ... difficult to avoid ... admins can edit anyone at any time. That is more a matter of trust, vigilance and care .. it does have an element of seperation ... I don't know if there's anything that can be done about that except take it on board and not exploit it.
I agree with this, also.
Re admin privilege, well if the "edited by... and time..." etc info is not removable by admins, then any personal post edit outside the 2hr window will show up and there is accountability there.
Adenosine
23rd December 2011, 06:11 AM
Doesn't the edit note show up if you do it after a certain amount of time, like ten minutes?
I can see and agree with both sides of this issue. If we have no edits it won't stress me and I just won't fix my typos. But having timed edits would allow retraction of a post that was meant as a postcard. How often does that happen?
I can see and agree with both sides of this issue. If we have no edits it won't stress me and I just won't fix my typos. But having timed edits would allow retraction of a post that was meant as a postcard. How often does that happen?
oblivion
23rd December 2011, 06:15 AM
Doesn't the edit note show up if you do it after a certain amount of time, like ten minutes?
I can see and agree with both sides of this issue. If we have no edits it won't stress me and I just won't fix my typos. But having timed edits would allow retraction of a post that was meant as a postcard. How often does that happen?
The amount of time is configurable. At TR we have it set for 2 minutes. I think FF has it set for 10 minutes.
re accidentally posting what was meant to be a PM, I have done that twice, I think. It's rare, but it does occasionally happen.
I can see and agree with both sides of this issue. If we have no edits it won't stress me and I just won't fix my typos. But having timed edits would allow retraction of a post that was meant as a postcard. How often does that happen?
The amount of time is configurable. At TR we have it set for 2 minutes. I think FF has it set for 10 minutes.
re accidentally posting what was meant to be a PM, I have done that twice, I think. It's rare, but it does occasionally happen.
Magicziggy
25th December 2011, 08:36 AM
How about none of us edit a post for the next week and see how frustrating it is, or not. How embarrassing is it to have our typos / bad spelling / clumsy language on permanent display.
Adenosine
25th December 2011, 12:26 PM
How about none of us edit a post for the next week and see how frustrating it is, or not. How embarrassing is it to have our typos / bad spelling / clumsy language on permanent display.
I like it. I'll do it.
I like it. I'll do it.
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