Logo Alternatives page 1

oblivion

21st December 2011, 04:30 PM

Cunt has another logo for us to think about. I decided to make a thread for discussing logos.

Here is the current logo.

http://mindromp.org/forum/images/misc/MindRomp800wide.png

Here is an icy version

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/raven_s/MindRomp800wIcy.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/raven_s/MindRompReds.png

oblivion

21st December 2011, 07:34 PM

We're also going to need a favicon. Any thoughts on something recognizable at 16x16 px? "MR" on a solid background is probably the most legible. Or maybe a stylized M of some sort.

Adenosine

21st December 2011, 09:00 PM

I like his art. The water comes closest to rompy. I think the favicon should be the M from the main logo or maybe the MR.

Cunt

21st December 2011, 09:36 PM

Thanks, but I don't know what 'favicon' means...

oblivion

21st December 2011, 09:41 PM

it's the tiny image representing the website that you see on browser tabs, that help you easily identify the site. They should be kinda striking, like the colorful lower case g for google, and the facebook-font f for facebook, etc.

Cunt

21st December 2011, 09:54 PM

If I had the design specs (please more input from everyone!) then I could have a whack at it...do you know what size/format they are usually in?

Adenosine

21st December 2011, 10:16 PM

16 x16px. :D

charlou

21st December 2011, 10:55 PM

Nice work, Cunt.

I like the current fluid logo .. very fitting.

oblivion

21st December 2011, 11:02 PM

the only requirement is that the image be 16x16px.

oblivion

22nd December 2011, 12:11 AM

added this new one from Cunt to the OP so they are all in one place.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/raven_s/MindRompReds.png

Cunt

22nd December 2011, 02:00 AM

Will you lazy fuckers please dream out loud here as if I could create your fancy, in photoshop?

I will happily make something up with the colours, shape or other characteristics you think perfect.

For instance, the water one - I am a fair pixel-tech, but don't have 'art'. Someone who knew design/drawing could have finished it much better. (finishing being the placement/size of the drops and the 'bloating' of certain parts of the letters)

Come on and try it out! Dare me - I fucking dare you!

oblivion

22nd December 2011, 02:13 AM

Ok, well the word mindromp keeps conjuring Max in his wolf suit romping with the jungle-y Wild Things in the children's book Where the Wild Things Are.

The Wild Rumpus.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/raven_s/where-the-wild-things-are-wild-rumpus.jpg

And devogue is Max.

charlou

22nd December 2011, 02:14 AM

^ :D

I'll give it some thought, Cunt.

nostrum

22nd December 2011, 02:32 AM

I like the water one. It doesn't look great on the grey background of the vanilla skin... can the vanilla skin be changed in any way shape or form to better show the title?

The icy one and the Goodies one I'm not so keen on.

oblivion

22nd December 2011, 02:38 AM

I would prefer to leave the vanilla skin mostly alone for people who are used to it from other sites.

but I don't want it to be our default skin.

What do you think of these TR skins, not so much the specific colors, but the contrasts. These skins do away with the white rectangle, and the dark colors are in place of the grey background in this skin.

Blue-green http://talkrational.org/index.php?styleid=3

shades of grey: http://talkrational.org/index.php?styleid=21

Light on dark: http://talkrational.org/index.php?styleid=18 (this is my "migraine" template)

nostrum

22nd December 2011, 02:50 AM

The TR logo/heading retains good contrast no matter the colour of the background. So I guess cunt's heading ideally needs tweaking so it too retains good contrast.

As an aside, and maybe this is an embodiment of me being an accountant, but I personally like the vanilla skin in comparison to all those skins [and jeebus christ on a xmas candy cane I just burnt my eyes on the bling skin there!!] So you can have different headers for each skin? Maybe that's the answer if we stick with the water heading

Yes I did just admit to that.

nostrum

22nd December 2011, 02:53 AM

Heh I just tried to edit my post, because the "yes I did just admit to that" was in relation to my admission of liking the vanilla skins.

It let me jump through the hoops but then told me I only had 1 minute to edit. With the speed of my internet here, I'd possibly NEVER get an edit in quick enough.

Is there any point to 1 minute?

nostrum

22nd December 2011, 02:54 AM

^ do the admins get special privileges wrt this? I appreciate they need to sometimes edit others' posts, but should they be allowed to edit their own beyond the forum-specified time frame?

oblivion

22nd December 2011, 02:58 AM

it's all or nothing for admins. I personally would prefer the members are able to edit their posts for a reasonable time. I will have to turn off edits at the individual forum level. boardwide 1 minute is th minimum.

Cunt

22nd December 2011, 03:01 AM

Offhand, I would say ABSOLUTELY NOT. Admins are members except when they are adminning.

But I have been wrong before.

Edited in by Adenosine: Checking we can edit other people's posts.

Cunt

22nd December 2011, 03:02 AM

I just missed oblivions post. At phpbb, when someone had posted before my post, there was a warning. With this quick reply thingy there wasn't.

nostrum

22nd December 2011, 03:05 AM

If admins have the luxury of being able to edit their posts, then I think ordinary members will get pissed off if they notice admins being able to something to their own posts.

1 minute is of no practical purpose. It needs to be reconsidered IMO.

Cunt

22nd December 2011, 03:07 AM

I would prefer NO edits, but can't remember the whole discussion...and now some folks have different names...tough to remember who is whom...

nostrum

22nd December 2011, 03:08 AM

nostrum = irre
adenosine = prion

nostrum

22nd December 2011, 03:09 AM

heh look at my custom title. I put in "not an admin" and it did that. How come?

Adenosine

22nd December 2011, 03:16 AM

And for contrast.

ETA: see if I can

ETA2: Still can. We seem to have unlimited edits.

ETA3:


ETA4: Should I be able to edit Adenosine product? - Cunt

Adenosine

22nd December 2011, 03:19 AM

nostrum = irre
adenosine = prion

I tried Prion, didn't fit.

heh look at my custom title. I put in "not an admin" and it did that. How come?

I'm guessing so 'normal' members can't pretend to be admins.

oblivion

22nd December 2011, 03:33 AM

If admins have the luxury of being able to edit their posts, then I think ordinary members will get pissed off if they notice admins being able to something to their own posts.

1 minute is of no practical purpose. It needs to be reconsidered IMO.

I would prefer NO edits, but can't remember the whole discussion...and now some folks have different names...tough to remember who is whom...
I had a feeling this one was going to be an issue, especially while we are working on stuff and documenting stuff. For now, I've set the edit window for members to 2 hours for the time being while we figure out what is feasible and what isn't.

I can't restrict admins from being able to edit whenever. There is no way for the system to differentiate between "this edit is necessary" and "this edit is not".

charlou

22nd December 2011, 04:42 AM

jeebus christ on a xmas candy cane

That'd be a project for DaveD if he shows up. :D

charlou

22nd December 2011, 04:45 AM

I had a feeling this one was going to be an issue, especially while we are working on stuff and documenting stuff. For now, I've set the edit window for members to 2 hours for the time being while we figure out what is feasible and what isn't.

I can't restrict admins from being able to edit whenever. There is no way for the system to differentiate between "this edit is necessary" and "this edit is not".

I think nostrum makes a good point about admins having a privilege other members don't have ... I'm okay with the two hour edit window - would prefer the half hour, but the consensus in the Discuss forum poll seemed to be two hours ...

... especially if there's a trail ... there should be a trail regardless who is editing.

charlou

22nd December 2011, 04:47 AM

and now some folks have different names...tough to remember who is whom...

my subtitle might give it away, but if not, charlou here.

oblivion

22nd December 2011, 04:51 AM

I tried Prion, didn't fit.



I'm guessing so 'normal' members can't pretend to be admins.
this. vbulletin comes with a few words that members can't use for account names or custom titles. we can edit those words (delete and/or add).

I remember a guy who joined TR the first month and had the custom title "Owner and Sysop" hilarity ensued.

nostrum

22nd December 2011, 05:21 AM

LOL. Fair enough that people can't have admin as their custom title. I'll pick something else :)

Oops char, I didn't even notice you were elouise here, I'm so used to the various names people go under at different fora!

oblivion

22nd December 2011, 05:27 AM

I think nostrum makes a good point about admins having a privilege other members don't have ... I'm okay with the two hour edit window - would prefer the half hour, but the consensus in the Discuss forum poll seemed to be two hours ...

... especially if there's a trail ... there should be a trail regardless who is editing.
I've modified the configuraion so there will be a trail. vbulletin comes out of the box with the edit notice disabled for admin edits.

I can only shake my head and wonder what's going on out there in the world wide web.

Cunt

22nd December 2011, 06:19 AM

As long as there is a record regardless, I am okay with 2hrs.

oblivion

22nd December 2011, 06:22 AM

As long as there is a record regardless, I am okay with 2hrs.
I have versioning turned on. as well as the audit trail indicating the post was changed, there are before and after records of the post content. If you click on the change reason link in an edited post, you can compare the versions. The versions are visible to admins. registered members can see that the post was edited, but not what was changed.

Cunt

22nd December 2011, 06:29 AM

Adequate.


So any 2 admins can release that information to a member? (I think it's a good answer)

oblivion

22nd December 2011, 06:45 AM

Adequate.


So any 2 admins can release that information to a member? (I think it's a good answer)
to the member who made the post originally? To a member who is curious about what was changed?

charlou

22nd December 2011, 06:49 AM

Adequate.


So any 2 admins can release that information to a member? (I think it's a good answer)
to the member who made the post originally? To a member who is curious about what was changed?

Wouldn't a complaint about any edit be made in public, to be dealt with in public? Admins just being the tool for retrieving the evidence, nothing more?

oblivion

22nd December 2011, 06:57 AM

Adequate.


So any 2 admins can release that information to a member? (I think it's a good answer)
to the member who made the post originally? To a member who is curious about what was changed?

Wouldn't a complaint about any edit be made in public, to be dealt with in public? Admins just being the tool for retrieving the evidence, nothing more?
so, if a complaint were made about an edit, we would have a look. If the edit looked "bad" - a hostile edit of some sort, we'd post the original? Or post the original in any case, provided the member wasn't removing personal info?

If we have to decide if the original should be revealed, I'm just wondering what the criteria for making the decision should be.

charlou

22nd December 2011, 07:09 AM

Adequate.


So any 2 admins can release that information to a member? (I think it's a good answer)
to the member who made the post originally? To a member who is curious about what was changed?

Wouldn't a complaint about any edit be made in public, to be dealt with in public? Admins just being the tool for retrieving the evidence, nothing more?
so, if a complaint were made about an edit, we would have a look. If the edit looked "bad" - a hostile edit of some sort, we'd post the original? Or post the original in any case, provided the member wasn't removing personal info?

If we have to decide if the original should be revealed, I'm just wondering what the criteria for making the decision should be.

Yes, I was thinking about this too ... And it's a decision we should make and be on the same page about.

This is one reason not allowing editing at all would be good ... (although there'd still be the unavoidable admin unfair advantage over other members) ... but even limiting the edit window to a much smaller time frame would reduce this as an issue.

Cunt

22nd December 2011, 07:55 AM

What criteria? I would say 'someone publicly requested it'. That's good enough for me.

It also puts me out of the awkward 'decision-making-loop'.

Cunt

22nd December 2011, 07:56 AM

(although there'd still be the unavoidable admin unfair advantage over other members) ... but even limiting the edit window to a much smaller time frame would reduce this as an issue.

We can require that admins NOT abuse the privilege - on pain of normalcy.

oblivion

24th December 2011, 03:23 AM

I like the water one. It doesn't look great on the grey background of the vanilla skin... can the vanilla skin be changed in any way shape or form to better show the title?

The icy one and the Goodies one I'm not so keen on.
I decided to modify the background color of the default skin to see if that would make the logo pop out a little.

The old background color code was #E1E1E2 if we want to revert back. The current color is #9999FF.

charlou

24th December 2011, 03:25 AM

It certainly is effective. :tup:

oblivion

24th December 2011, 03:28 AM

thank the bourbon.

charlou

24th December 2011, 03:33 AM

:D

Can the lilacness be toned down a tad?

Cunt

24th December 2011, 03:46 AM

It does make it pop!

oblivion

24th December 2011, 03:46 AM

better?

Cunt

24th December 2011, 03:58 AM

I think so, but I am not terribly thrilled with the job I did...see, there is this last step, where I 'bloated' (distorted) the letters...I think someone with design/drawing sense could have done better...Anyway, I would be happy to try again, or leave it as is, but don't really know much about 'design'...

charlou

24th December 2011, 04:04 AM

Yes, better!

Magicziggy

25th December 2011, 12:45 AM

I don't like version 3 of the logo. Warm on the ice version.
Quite taken with the watery original.

I love oblivion's wtwta imagery for mindromp. This could go somewhere.

Can't you people keep on topic????

Edits.... Why would an admin make an edit to a post? To remove personal info on request. That's the only reason. It's necessary for admins to be able to do this for an infinite time period.

Admins will just have be disciplined about not editing their own posts outside any agreed window. Breeches will incur physical punishment. I'm happy to be the enforcer.

I edited this post. Sue me.

Hermit

25th December 2011, 01:00 AM

I edited this post.Pity you did not avail yourself to the opportunity of fixing your spelling error while you were in edit mode. :p

Magicziggy

25th December 2011, 01:23 AM

I edited this post.Pity you did not avail yourself to the opportunity of fixing your spelling error while you were in edit mode. :p

I have a personnel cod of ethics that prevents me from doing so.

Hermit

25th December 2011, 01:47 AM

I edited this post.Pity you did not avail yourself to the opportunity of fixing your spelling error while you were in edit mode. :pI have a personnel cod of ethics that prevents me from doing so.That reminds me of the prawn that wanted to become a shark and the cod that helped him. If you're not careful, I'll tell you the story.

You have been warned!

oblivion

1st January 2012, 05:52 AM

cunt's latest creation.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/raven_s/MindRomp2012coldcyan.png

I really like this.

Magicziggy

1st January 2012, 06:12 AM

Yes, it's a cleaner look. I like it a lot.

charlou

1st January 2012, 07:58 AM

I like the original mercurial one on the background we have atm.

charlou

1st January 2012, 08:06 AM

I like that it's not clearly defined ... mercurial ... ie difficult to pin down ... http://www.thefreedictionary.com/mercurial

Adenosine

1st January 2012, 08:58 AM

I like the font of the new one and the mercury of the old one. Can the two be combined Cunt?

Hermit

1st January 2012, 09:02 AM

Not keen on the new one. The font looks too fat to me, and I prefer the liquid look of the current one.

charlou

1st January 2012, 09:12 AM

I like that the current one lacks 'polish' ... it looks a bit like someone (you Cunt) squirted it on there ... a loose and freeform ejaculation

oblivion

1st January 2012, 03:52 PM

another

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/raven_s/MindrompPlastic.png

Cunt

1st January 2012, 05:42 PM

I like the font of the new one and the mercury of the old one. Can the two be combined Cunt?

They can!

Being a new designer, I didn't keep track of which font I used (different for both). I added some cyan to the latest one, since we all started out at RDF with cyan backgrounds...

I can easily l leave the colour out, and get the mercury back.

I have tried a couple of times to get a 'where the wild things are' look, but have had no success. My logos have been following web tutorials. I am very new to this.

I will have another go for you.

Cunt

1st January 2012, 05:52 PM

I will give you the whole bunch here...see what is liked best.

I would also be pleased to try it with a particular font, or add a particular colour...

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee174/Darren8306/MindRomp800wide.png

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee174/Darren8306/MindRomp2012coldcyan.png

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee174/Darren8306/MindRomp2012Mercury.png

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee174/Darren8306/MindrompPlastic.png

http://i234.photobucket.com/albums/ee174/Darren8306/MindRompReds.png

This may not be a complete list, since I am slurping my first coffee and smoking my first doobie of the year...I may well do another one or two this morning...but I think this is all of my suggestions so far.

Maybe I will make a vote thread a bit later. I WAS forcing oblivion to post them all, but can't remember why...

oblivion

1st January 2012, 06:03 PM

I like the colour and shape of the second one, and the liquid/metallic look of the first one.

Cunt

1st January 2012, 06:52 PM

I like the colour and shape of the second one, and the liquid/metallic look of the first one.

Isn't that the third one? (that's what I was trying there...)

oblivion

1st January 2012, 08:43 PM

I like the colour and shape of the second one, and the liquid/metallic look of the first one.

Isn't that the third one? (that's what I was trying there...)
kinda. I can't figure out to say what I am thinking in words. I might give it a try in gimp today or tomorrow.

oblivion

1st January 2012, 10:39 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/raven_s/mindrompmeld.png

nostrum

2nd January 2012, 01:38 AM

I vote the first one.

Hermit

2nd January 2012, 01:41 AM

I too think the first one is the best.

nostrum

2nd January 2012, 02:18 AM

BTW ob I never thanked you for changing the header background colour to allow the logo to stand out. It looks great. Thanks! :hug:

charlou

2nd January 2012, 10:32 AM

Aye, still number one for me for the reasons I gave. The others don't appeal to me at all by comparison.

Supernaut

18th January 2012, 09:21 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v636/raven_s/mindrompmeld.png

I like this significantly better than the current.....I also favor the red one as well.

Cunt

18th January 2012, 10:24 PM

Thanks, Supernaut. I agree with you, but the tide won out. (I didn't like the first one, which everyone else did lol)

I also noticed that it likely looked like I didn't respond to the real suggestion after asking for it - to do one which looked a bit 'where the wild things are'. I did try...a few times...and got nothing worth posting publicly. I will try to have another go, and we will see.

Supernaut

18th January 2012, 10:28 PM

Thanks, Supernaut. I agree with you, but the tide won out. (I didn't like the first one, which everyone else did lol)

I also noticed that it likely looked like I didn't respond to the real suggestion after asking for it - to do one which looked a bit 'where the wild things are'. I did try...a few times...and got nothing worth posting publicly. I will try to have another go, and we will see.

:happydance:

Supernaut

18th January 2012, 10:29 PM

btw: your line in the first post on page two made for the best sig line ever!!!

Cunt

19th January 2012, 01:59 AM

Thanks...feel free to use it even without giving me credit. All the words were one's I had heard before anyhow.

Supernaut

19th January 2012, 02:04 AM

Thanks Cunt!

Fuzzy

19th January 2012, 02:32 AM

Out of those choices, the first is the worst imho. #2 is ace.

Fuzzy

19th January 2012, 02:53 AM

Actually; can it be dependent on theme? #3, shrunk down to match #2 in size (in other words, #2 given the mercury coloration), might go well with the default theme and #2 as it is now might go well with Wild Rompus (the best theme, which I for one have used since signing up)

Fuzzy

19th January 2012, 02:54 AM

#1 looks like someone took #3 and then passed it through some dumb photoshop filter to make it all warbly and magical in a bad way

Supernaut

19th January 2012, 03:00 AM

#1 looks like someone took #3 and then passed it through some dumb photoshop filter to make it all warbly and magical in a bad way

:sadyes:

Supernaut

19th January 2012, 03:04 AM

Actually; can it be dependent on theme? #3, shrunk down to match #2 in size (in other words, #2 given the mercury coloration), might go well with the default theme and #2 as it is now might go well with Wild Rompus (the best theme, which I for one have used since signing up)

Not a bad idea tbh.

oblivion

19th January 2012, 03:05 AM

It can be dependent on theme. On most sites the logo colors or details are dependent on theme.

btw did you guys notice that I've been messing with the wild rompus theme? I've added a dark rompus, too, but am still tweaking it.

nostrum

19th January 2012, 03:11 AM

bloody complainers .... :p

oblivion

19th January 2012, 03:14 AM

also, I'm going to steal my dark grey theme from TR because it's my migraine theme.

Fuzzy

19th January 2012, 03:16 AM

It can be dependent on theme. On most sites the logo colors or details are dependent on theme.

btw did you guys notice that I've been messing with the wild rompus theme? I've added a dark rompus, too, but am still tweaking it.

I did notice!!!!!!!

I especially noticed the change in colours for quick reply! It fits it nicely now.

Thanks raven :hug:

Fuzzy

19th January 2012, 03:18 AM

Also, I look forward to the dark rompus!

Supernaut

19th January 2012, 03:22 AM

It can be dependent on theme. On most sites the logo colors or details are dependent on theme.

btw did you guys notice that I've been messing with the wild rompus theme? I've added a dark rompus, too, but am still tweaking it.

:happydance:

Supernaut

19th January 2012, 03:22 AM

Also, I look forward to the dark rompus!

:nada:

oblivion

19th January 2012, 03:25 AM

ok, have a look. I'm looking for a nice set of green buttons to go with both the wild and dark rompus themes.

nostrum

19th January 2012, 03:27 AM

I'm scared. I'm a vanilla person. Should I be brave and have a look? :unsure:

Supernaut

19th January 2012, 03:31 AM

I LOVE IT!!!!!

Supernaut

19th January 2012, 03:31 AM

I'm scared. I'm a vanilla person. Should I be brave and have a look? :unsure:

:yes:

Fuzzy

19th January 2012, 03:36 AM

Nice. I actually think the current logo looks pretty good on a dark background.

Adenosine

19th January 2012, 03:38 AM

Whoa, that's wild.

Freaking awesome.

nostrum

19th January 2012, 04:11 AM

:twitch: Jeebus are you all nearly blind?!

*switches back to vanilla*

MSG

19th January 2012, 08:43 AM

Blearrgghh!!!!

Gree-ee-ee-eennnn!!!!

Yee-ssh! back to vanilla too

Fuzzy

19th January 2012, 02:59 PM

Green is second best after purple.

nostrum

19th January 2012, 04:50 PM

Green is second best after purple.

Agreed. But not in A Clockwork Orange kind of way :unsure: