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oblivion
21st December 2011, 04:02 AM
This is stuff I need to either take care of or ask you guys how you want to handle it.
coppa - we don't need this because we won't accept new members who are under 18 years old.
uneditable admin accounts - we want at least one of these so that we can't be locked out of vbulletin in the event of a hacker, but we probably won't want the feature for our own accounts - there is a lot of stuff you can't change in your own profile when you are set up this way in the config.php file.
smilies folder set up chmod777 - done
make copyright year info a variable.
what color style templates do we want? (this is the default vbulletin template and it is not very pretty. I threw up a quick replacement for the default vbulletin logol
I've set up the forum to use the legacy postbit (user info is to the left of the post instead of on top of the post. Compare to FF to see what the newer postbit looks like.
coppa - we don't need this because we won't accept new members who are under 18 years old.
uneditable admin accounts - we want at least one of these so that we can't be locked out of vbulletin in the event of a hacker, but we probably won't want the feature for our own accounts - there is a lot of stuff you can't change in your own profile when you are set up this way in the config.php file.
smilies folder set up chmod777 - done
make copyright year info a variable.
what color style templates do we want? (this is the default vbulletin template and it is not very pretty. I threw up a quick replacement for the default vbulletin logol
I've set up the forum to use the legacy postbit (user info is to the left of the post instead of on top of the post. Compare to FF to see what the newer postbit looks like.
oblivion
21st December 2011, 04:07 AM
The admin@mindromp.org account (used by the Contact Us feature) - I have it set up to autoforward to my email account. Who else wants to receive these emails? IMO it should be everyone who has admin access.
registration - I was thinking that we'd leave registration open - no approval - until we start seeing spambots. That way, new people can join and start posting right away when we start to let people know about the site.
registration - I was thinking that we'd leave registration open - no approval - until we start seeing spambots. That way, new people can join and start posting right away when we start to let people know about the site.
oblivion
21st December 2011, 04:13 AM
Standard welcome sent to new users. We'll probably want to customize this with info about how the site works - the vision stuff and what it means to members and what they post:
Dear $username,
Thanks for registering at $vboptions[bbtitle]! We are glad you have chosen to be a part of our community and we hope you enjoy your stay.
All the best,
$vboptions[bbtitle]
also --- do we want to allow multiple registrations? I think so. but require a different email address. that's how I am setting it up for now.
Dear $username,
Thanks for registering at $vboptions[bbtitle]! We are glad you have chosen to be a part of our community and we hope you enjoy your stay.
All the best,
$vboptions[bbtitle]
also --- do we want to allow multiple registrations? I think so. but require a different email address. that's how I am setting it up for now.
oblivion
21st December 2011, 04:39 AM
reports forum - need to decide where open reports will go, and whether the reporter will be listed or anonymous.
user reputation - turned off for now. I'm not sure if we want to fully enable it, set it up so it's just for comments, or not use it.
Albums and social groups are turned off for now. I know we don't want images stored on the server. I don't remember if we've talked about social groups and invite-only private threads.
thread tagging - do we want to enable this?
user reputation - turned off for now. I'm not sure if we want to fully enable it, set it up so it's just for comments, or not use it.
Albums and social groups are turned off for now. I know we don't want images stored on the server. I don't remember if we've talked about social groups and invite-only private threads.
thread tagging - do we want to enable this?
oblivion
21st December 2011, 05:28 AM
Ok, with the exception of the stuff above, all the basic configuration is done. No modifications or add-ons have been installed.
Right now, our user group (administrator) will be overriden by a custom user title, and there won't be any indication in posts who is an admin and who is a member. There are different ways to highlight that info, and different POVs about whether it's a good thing to make staff stand out to members. Things like bold, italicized or colored user names.
At TR we decided to add a custom field to the user profile that could contain the title, and which forums a staff member is responsible for.
Here, with a commitment to no post edits or bans there may not be much reason to highlight staff at all.
Anyway...just want to throw that out there as food for thought.
Right now, our user group (administrator) will be overriden by a custom user title, and there won't be any indication in posts who is an admin and who is a member. There are different ways to highlight that info, and different POVs about whether it's a good thing to make staff stand out to members. Things like bold, italicized or colored user names.
At TR we decided to add a custom field to the user profile that could contain the title, and which forums a staff member is responsible for.
Here, with a commitment to no post edits or bans there may not be much reason to highlight staff at all.
Anyway...just want to throw that out there as food for thought.
charlou
21st December 2011, 05:42 AM
The admin@mindromp.org account (used by the Contact Us feature) - I have it set up to autoforward to my email account. Who else wants to receive these emails? IMO it should be everyone who has admin access.
Agreed ... and/or the discussforum@hotmail.com Email.
registration - I was thinking that we'd leave registration open - no approval - until we start seeing spambots. That way, new people can join and start posting right away when we start to let people know about the site.
I think we should restrict membership to just those who've contributed to the discuss forum until we have sorted the details of the values, signup questionaire and FAQ and are ready for opening to a wider membership. Then, yes, no restrictions other than spambots and the like.
Agreed ... and/or the discussforum@hotmail.com Email.
registration - I was thinking that we'd leave registration open - no approval - until we start seeing spambots. That way, new people can join and start posting right away when we start to let people know about the site.
I think we should restrict membership to just those who've contributed to the discuss forum until we have sorted the details of the values, signup questionaire and FAQ and are ready for opening to a wider membership. Then, yes, no restrictions other than spambots and the like.
nostrum
21st December 2011, 05:51 AM
I've set up the forum to use the legacy postbit (user info is to the left of the post instead of on top of the post. Compare to FF to see what the newer postbit looks like.
I much prefer this. Ie legacy postbit
I much prefer this. Ie legacy postbit
charlou
21st December 2011, 05:56 AM
Ok, with the exception of the stuff above, all the basic configuration is done. No modifications or add-ons have been installed.
Right now, our user group (administrator) will be overriden by a custom user title, and there won't be any indication in posts who is an admin and who is a member. There are different ways to highlight that info, and different POVs about whether it's a good thing to make staff stand out to members. Things like bold, italicized or colored user names.
At TR we decided to add a custom field to the user profile that could contain the title, and which forums a staff member is responsible for.
Here, with a commitment to no post edits or bans there may not be much reason to highlight staff at all.
Anyway...just want to throw that out there as food for thought.
Admins .. just technical usefulness and much of that will be by user request ... move a thread, start a new forum, delete personal identifying info, etc ... having names for that is friendlier that an anonymous "admin" .. We could have the names of current admins on the admin forum subheading?
Other than that, making it clear that the admin role as it pertains to its effect on forum interaction is limited is an important part of our agreed core values, as I understand them.
Right now, our user group (administrator) will be overriden by a custom user title, and there won't be any indication in posts who is an admin and who is a member. There are different ways to highlight that info, and different POVs about whether it's a good thing to make staff stand out to members. Things like bold, italicized or colored user names.
At TR we decided to add a custom field to the user profile that could contain the title, and which forums a staff member is responsible for.
Here, with a commitment to no post edits or bans there may not be much reason to highlight staff at all.
Anyway...just want to throw that out there as food for thought.
Admins .. just technical usefulness and much of that will be by user request ... move a thread, start a new forum, delete personal identifying info, etc ... having names for that is friendlier that an anonymous "admin" .. We could have the names of current admins on the admin forum subheading?
Other than that, making it clear that the admin role as it pertains to its effect on forum interaction is limited is an important part of our agreed core values, as I understand them.
nostrum
21st December 2011, 05:57 AM
what color style templates do we want? (this is the default vbulletin template and it is not very pretty. I threw up a quick replacement for the default vbulletin logol
LOL I have the default skin on at TR, so they look very alike to me! What's a good skin at TR to choose, to see what kinds of things are possible?
LOL I have the default skin on at TR, so they look very alike to me! What's a good skin at TR to choose, to see what kinds of things are possible?
charlou
21st December 2011, 06:09 AM
Seraph added to admin group
I see Cunt has signed up .. will check his status and modify if need be.
I see Cunt has signed up .. will check his status and modify if need be.
Hermit
21st December 2011, 06:52 AM
The admin@mindromp.org account (used by the Contact Us feature) - I have it set up to autoforward to my email account. Who else wants to receive these emails? IMO it should be everyone who has admin access.
registration - I was thinking that we'd leave registration open - no approval - until we start seeing spambots. That way, new people can join and start posting right away when we start to let people know about the site.
Suggestions: Yes to the first, and restrict registrations until we have the constitution/guidelines set up to our liking.
I'd like to help, but at the moment I seem to be hampered by some restrictions in regard to my access to the ACP, plus I need to familiarise myself with the menu items I can access.
registration - I was thinking that we'd leave registration open - no approval - until we start seeing spambots. That way, new people can join and start posting right away when we start to let people know about the site.
Suggestions: Yes to the first, and restrict registrations until we have the constitution/guidelines set up to our liking.
I'd like to help, but at the moment I seem to be hampered by some restrictions in regard to my access to the ACP, plus I need to familiarise myself with the menu items I can access.
Cunt
21st December 2011, 06:59 AM
reports forum - need to decide where open reports will go, and whether the reporter will be listed or anonymous.
user reputation - turned off for now. I'm not sure if we want to fully enable it, set it up so it's just for comments, or not use it.
Albums and social groups are turned off for now. I know we don't want images stored on the server. I don't remember if we've talked about social groups and invite-only private threads.
thread tagging - do we want to enable this?
I would suggest that NO complaints can be secret. Open only.
I just smashed ahead and renamed 'Private Messages' to 'Postcard Messages' everywhere (I think...with oblivions help...) I am pretty sure that's okay with everyone, but if I crowd ahead of someone, please let me know.
I also made a logo. If it isn't Ka-BOOM enough, or something, I will have another go at it. Another option is for anyone who can just post a better one.
If I am going to have another go, I would like to have some specific direction from you guys. I am kind of a wrench-monkey, not much art-sense, but I can tech...
Can we clip the 'user responsibility' list and get working on a final? I have to go to bed, but I'll have a bit of time tomorrow to throw in.
Thanks for all your work, oblivion!
user reputation - turned off for now. I'm not sure if we want to fully enable it, set it up so it's just for comments, or not use it.
Albums and social groups are turned off for now. I know we don't want images stored on the server. I don't remember if we've talked about social groups and invite-only private threads.
thread tagging - do we want to enable this?
I would suggest that NO complaints can be secret. Open only.
I just smashed ahead and renamed 'Private Messages' to 'Postcard Messages' everywhere (I think...with oblivions help...) I am pretty sure that's okay with everyone, but if I crowd ahead of someone, please let me know.
I also made a logo. If it isn't Ka-BOOM enough, or something, I will have another go at it. Another option is for anyone who can just post a better one.
If I am going to have another go, I would like to have some specific direction from you guys. I am kind of a wrench-monkey, not much art-sense, but I can tech...
Can we clip the 'user responsibility' list and get working on a final? I have to go to bed, but I'll have a bit of time tomorrow to throw in.
Thanks for all your work, oblivion!
oblivion
21st December 2011, 07:01 AM
LOL I have the default skin on at TR, so they look very alike to me! What's a good skin at TR to choose, to see what kinds of things are possible?
Look at the different grey ones, and the dark blue one They show off the differences beween dark-on-light and light-on-dark. the purple one is fun. I've been meaning to make a shades of green template for a while.
Look at the different grey ones, and the dark blue one They show off the differences beween dark-on-light and light-on-dark. the purple one is fun. I've been meaning to make a shades of green template for a while.
oblivion
21st December 2011, 07:20 AM
I've edited the report phrase text so that the reporting member's email address is not shown.
right now, every admin will get an email for each report. we can decide if we need that down the pike.
right now, every admin will get an email for each report. we can decide if we need that down the pike.
oblivion
21st December 2011, 07:32 AM
registrations are now restricted so that new registrants must be approved before they can post.
On the admin panel on the left hand menu is a category called "Moderation". Pick "moderate users" from that list. You can approve or ignore new registrations there. If it's an obvious spambot, I'd just go ahead and delete the registration. It will probably be a few days before we see many spambots...hope so anyway!
If you don't know how to tell the obvious spambots, just leave them and I'll have a look tomorrow. I'll write up my spambot detection process when I get a chance!
On the admin panel on the left hand menu is a category called "Moderation". Pick "moderate users" from that list. You can approve or ignore new registrations there. If it's an obvious spambot, I'd just go ahead and delete the registration. It will probably be a few days before we see many spambots...hope so anyway!
If you don't know how to tell the obvious spambots, just leave them and I'll have a look tomorrow. I'll write up my spambot detection process when I get a chance!
charlou
21st December 2011, 07:45 AM
As I said, I don't think we should allow general registrations until we've finished sorting out the details and codify the forum values, signup thingy, guidelines, FAQ ...
My concern is the same as it was on the discuss forum ... possible hijacking, derails and general disruption (even if it's just too many people wanting a say) to getting those details sorted among ourselves.
This forum was set in motion with some basic principles in mind. I'd like to see those established in a tangible way before we open our doors. That's the next step, along with any corresponding adjustments to the software, I think.
Are we agreed on that?
My concern is the same as it was on the discuss forum ... possible hijacking, derails and general disruption (even if it's just too many people wanting a say) to getting those details sorted among ourselves.
This forum was set in motion with some basic principles in mind. I'd like to see those established in a tangible way before we open our doors. That's the next step, along with any corresponding adjustments to the software, I think.
Are we agreed on that?
oblivion
21st December 2011, 07:53 AM
yeah, that's why I wanted to make it require approval. If I turn registrations off completely then MZ, Prion, Cormac can't register.
This should be similar to the discussion forum - it's not being advertised and publicly linked to, so we shouldn't be getting much in the way random registrations.
This should be similar to the discussion forum - it's not being advertised and publicly linked to, so we shouldn't be getting much in the way random registrations.
Hermit
21st December 2011, 08:17 AM
Unless my unreliable memory hasn't let me down again, I seem to recall that we agreed on not allowing attachments for bandwidth/cost/liability reasons. If so, shall I switch them off?
Hermit
21st December 2011, 08:21 AM
I also made a logo. If it isn't Ka-BOOM enough, or something, I will have another go at it. Another option is for anyone who can just post a better one.I really like it. Nothing stopping us from adopting a different one later on, though, should we so desire.
oblivion
21st December 2011, 11:00 AM
all attachments or image attachments?
Hermit
21st December 2011, 11:58 AM
all attachments or image attachments?Looks like we have not discussed that aspect of the issue before. I'm inclined to disable all attachments for all of the same reasons mentioned before: bandwidth/cost/liability. Perhaps we need a thread (with poll) on that?
Cunt
21st December 2011, 01:12 PM
Looks like we have not discussed that aspect of the issue before. I'm inclined to disable all attachments for all of the same reasons mentioned before: bandwidth/cost/liability. Perhaps we need a thread (with poll) on that?
I think we had already decided that, however, I had not considered that before placing my beloved avatar photo.
I think we had already decided that, however, I had not considered that before placing my beloved avatar photo.
oblivion
21st December 2011, 05:44 PM
Admins .. just technical usefulness and much of that will be by user request ... move a thread, start a new forum, delete personal identifying info, etc ... having names for that is friendlier that an anonymous "admin" .. We could have the names of current admins on the admin forum subheading?
Other than that, making it clear that the admin role as it pertains to its effect on forum interaction is limited is an important part of our agreed core values, as I understand them.
What is the admin forum? is this a new forum we'll add?
There is a link on the index page between the last forum and the who's online info. (actually 2 links). It's called "Forum Leaders" and it will take you to a page where all admins, supermods and forum mods are listed. We will have only the admins on that page. It's not a very obvious place to look for "someone in charge" or whatever. At TR. I added a link to the same page in the top navbar (the blue bar below the logo) and called the link "Staff". We could do something similar. I don't know if we'll want to use the "staff" label here, though.
Other than that, making it clear that the admin role as it pertains to its effect on forum interaction is limited is an important part of our agreed core values, as I understand them.
What is the admin forum? is this a new forum we'll add?
There is a link on the index page between the last forum and the who's online info. (actually 2 links). It's called "Forum Leaders" and it will take you to a page where all admins, supermods and forum mods are listed. We will have only the admins on that page. It's not a very obvious place to look for "someone in charge" or whatever. At TR. I added a link to the same page in the top navbar (the blue bar below the logo) and called the link "Staff". We could do something similar. I don't know if we'll want to use the "staff" label here, though.
Cunt
21st December 2011, 05:49 PM
Perhaps having admin accounts called 'Admin1', 'Admin2', etc. Then, when someone is made an admin, they are given one of these accounts to use until they step down or are punted.
I think the approach of de-personalizing admins could help. Not to hide who is doing the work, but logging out of 'Cunt' and logging into 'Admin3' would remind me that I am not 'Cunt' at that moment, but doing a job.
Also, admin requests could NOT be made to 'Cunt', but only to 'Admin', if you see my meaning.
I think the approach of de-personalizing admins could help. Not to hide who is doing the work, but logging out of 'Cunt' and logging into 'Admin3' would remind me that I am not 'Cunt' at that moment, but doing a job.
Also, admin requests could NOT be made to 'Cunt', but only to 'Admin', if you see my meaning.
oblivion
21st December 2011, 06:37 PM
I do see what you mean. I've never really liked the depersonalized admin approach on the sites where I've seen special accounts for staff. I've felt like staff were hiding behind anonymity when they were cracking down on someone or instituting something they knew would not be popular with members.
I'd worry a little that Admin1, 2, 3 etc., accounts could make members think/expect something similar here, even though the intent is to not do any sort of "cracking down".
I'd worry a little that Admin1, 2, 3 etc., accounts could make members think/expect something similar here, even though the intent is to not do any sort of "cracking down".
Cunt
21st December 2011, 09:39 PM
We will wait and see on the admin...maybe admin titles (I like 'Lord High Walrus') instead of just having 'admin' on my account...it's a bit more personal...
Anyway, I wanted to mention that I am not getting e-mail notifications of replies to subscribed threads. I am going to check my UCP now, but won't check the admin panel until I get home later...
Anyway, I wanted to mention that I am not getting e-mail notifications of replies to subscribed threads. I am going to check my UCP now, but won't check the admin panel until I get home later...
oblivion
21st December 2011, 09:43 PM
yeah, that's an option on the usercp. toward the bottom. You indicate whether you want email notification and how often. you may have to resubscribe to threads to make it take effect. I'm not sure...I don't remember if it's automatic for previous subscriptions or not.
Cunt
21st December 2011, 09:53 PM
Working now, thanks.
Adenosine
21st December 2011, 10:12 PM
This is awesome. Thanks for making me an administrator and I am very happy to do the work and the steering of the forum. But do we have to have Administrator as our user title. Not hiding that I'm an admin, but not throwing it into every thread I post in either.
charlou
21st December 2011, 10:35 PM
By Admin thread .. I was referring to the area of the forum where the reports will go, and where admins will be keeping a visible log of admin activity.
I'm not in favour of labelling admins .. not as the depersonalised "admin1 .. 2 .. 3", nor in the "I'm a bigwig on this forum, nyahnyahnyah" way.
The admins are just members who take care of technical running of the forum ... useful role, but otherwise no big deal.
I'm not in favour of labelling admins .. not as the depersonalised "admin1 .. 2 .. 3", nor in the "I'm a bigwig on this forum, nyahnyahnyah" way.
The admins are just members who take care of technical running of the forum ... useful role, but otherwise no big deal.
Cunt
21st December 2011, 10:39 PM
I would prefer logging into a separate account to do admin work, but we should see what everyone else wants...
charlou
21st December 2011, 10:50 PM
I would prefer logging into a separate account to do admin work, but we should see what everyone else wants...
Admins do have to log in to the ACP before accessing it ...
If the admins were to have a significant role in managing the forum and membership I could understand (not really agree with, though) a preference to keep admin and general member contributions distinct somehow ... but the admins here won't have that kind of role.
Another reason I think admins should access the ACP as themselves is so there's a clear log of who has done what in the ACP.
Admins do have to log in to the ACP before accessing it ...
If the admins were to have a significant role in managing the forum and membership I could understand (not really agree with, though) a preference to keep admin and general member contributions distinct somehow ... but the admins here won't have that kind of role.
Another reason I think admins should access the ACP as themselves is so there's a clear log of who has done what in the ACP.
charlou
21st December 2011, 10:52 PM
Admins do have to log in to the ACP before accessing it ...
If the admins were to have a significant role in managing the forum and membership I could understand (not really agree with, though) a preference to keep admin and general member contributions distinct somehow ... but the admins here won't have that kind of role.
Another reason I think admins should access the ACP as themselves is so there's a clear log of who has done what in the ACP.
re the bit I've bolded ... I mean a preference a person who is an admin may have to keep their own admin actions and their own general posting distinct and separate ..
If the admins were to have a significant role in managing the forum and membership I could understand (not really agree with, though) a preference to keep admin and general member contributions distinct somehow ... but the admins here won't have that kind of role.
Another reason I think admins should access the ACP as themselves is so there's a clear log of who has done what in the ACP.
re the bit I've bolded ... I mean a preference a person who is an admin may have to keep their own admin actions and their own general posting distinct and separate ..
oblivion
21st December 2011, 11:00 PM
"Administrator" is the default title for the admin user group. I have fixed it so that you can override it with whatever you like. We can also change the generic title, but I figure people are going to want to change things up, anyway.
To modify your custom user title, go to the UserCP. Click "Edit your Details" on the left hand menu. The second box on the next page lets you enter a custom user title.
To modify your custom user title, go to the UserCP. Click "Edit your Details" on the left hand menu. The second box on the next page lets you enter a custom user title.
Adenosine
21st December 2011, 11:01 PM
By Admin thread .. I was referring to the area of the forum where the reports will go, and where admins will be keeping a visible log of admin activity.
I'm not in favour of labelling admins .. not as the depersonalised "admin1 .. 2 .. 3", nor in the "I'm a bigwig on this forum, nyahnyahnyah" way.
The admins are just members who take care of technical running of the forum ... useful role, but otherwise no big deal.
Pretty much what I meant but put much better. :)
"Administrator" is the default title for the admin user group. I have fixed it so that you can override it with whatever you like. We can also change the generic title, but I figure people are going to want to change things up, anyway.
To modify your custom user title, go to the UserCP. Click "Edit your Details" on the left hand menu. The second box on the next page lets you enter a custom user title.
Excellent, thanks. :)
I'm not in favour of labelling admins .. not as the depersonalised "admin1 .. 2 .. 3", nor in the "I'm a bigwig on this forum, nyahnyahnyah" way.
The admins are just members who take care of technical running of the forum ... useful role, but otherwise no big deal.
Pretty much what I meant but put much better. :)
"Administrator" is the default title for the admin user group. I have fixed it so that you can override it with whatever you like. We can also change the generic title, but I figure people are going to want to change things up, anyway.
To modify your custom user title, go to the UserCP. Click "Edit your Details" on the left hand menu. The second box on the next page lets you enter a custom user title.
Excellent, thanks. :)
Cunt
21st December 2011, 11:27 PM
Another reason I think admins should access the ACP as themselves is so there's a clear log of who has done what in the ACP.
Excellent point, Elouise.
Excellent point, Elouise.
charlou
22nd December 2011, 12:50 AM
The admin@mindromp.org account (used by the Contact Us feature) - I have it set up to autoforward to my email account. Who else wants to receive these emails? IMO it should be everyone who has admin access.Agreed ... and/or the discussforum@hotmail.com Email.
Bump. :)
Bump. :)
oblivion
22nd December 2011, 12:58 AM
I'll set up discussforum@hotmail.com as one of the forwarded addresses when I'm able to login to the server. should be a couple of hours. I can add the email accounts that adenosine, seraph and cunt registered with, unless there's another account you would prefer.
Cunt
22nd December 2011, 01:56 AM
I would like to do a test to see if the member understands the framework before they can take on the responsibility of posting. I don't know how. I don't know if I would pass.
Perhaps 'framed' as if you want to take on the responsibility of posting, you must pass the following test: (test questions to demonstrate they understand the rules)
Perhaps 'framed' as if you want to take on the responsibility of posting, you must pass the following test: (test questions to demonstrate they understand the rules)
charlou
22nd December 2011, 02:01 AM
I think of the 'test' as being more like a series of statements that the new member must agree to ... example
* I understand that my actions and reactions to the actions and reactions of other members of MindRomp.org are my responsibility.
* I understand that MindRomp.org is moderation free and that I and the other members share responsibility for how we interact with one another.
That kind of thing ...
* I understand that my actions and reactions to the actions and reactions of other members of MindRomp.org are my responsibility.
* I understand that MindRomp.org is moderation free and that I and the other members share responsibility for how we interact with one another.
That kind of thing ...
Cunt
22nd December 2011, 02:21 AM
I thought of dropdowns with multiple choice answers, and the wrong combination of answers (maybe 2 or 3 questions) leads back to the 'rules or lack of them' screen, while the right answers go to a 'congrats, you make begin' page (registration)
But I don't know how to make the html5 magic. (or whatever)
But I don't know how to make the html5 magic. (or whatever)
oblivion
22nd December 2011, 03:26 AM
I'll set up discussforum@hotmail.com as one of the forwarded addresses when I'm able to login to the server. should be a couple of hours. I can add the email accounts that adenosine, seraph and cunt registered with, unless there's another account you would prefer.
this is done.
this is done.
Adenosine
22nd December 2011, 12:36 PM
I'll set up discussforum@hotmail.com as one of the forwarded addresses when I'm able to login to the server. should be a couple of hours. I can add the email accounts that adenosine, seraph and cunt registered with, unless there's another account you would prefer.
Thank you. :)
Thank you. :)
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