comments, thanks functions page 1
gib
14th January 2012, 08:20 PM
i see we have no comments function here, i'd be interested to hear the reasons for this
over at FF they have a Thanks function - basically instead of making a post to thank someone, or making a comment, you just click a button.
i think u have to be logged on to see who has said thanks
wondered if we could use something like that, i'd also be interested in an equivalent "Agree" or "+1" button.
what do people think?
over at FF they have a Thanks function - basically instead of making a post to thank someone, or making a comment, you just click a button.
i think u have to be logged on to see who has said thanks
wondered if we could use something like that, i'd also be interested in an equivalent "Agree" or "+1" button.
what do people think?
oblivion
14th January 2012, 08:31 PM
I have a ticker file around here somewhere...wait...
http://mindromp.org/forum/showthread.php?p=6#post6
I didn't configure the reputation/comments system because step 1 would be deciding if/how we want to use that system. Thanks for starting this thread!
I'm going to move it to the forum mismanagement forum. This forum is mostly just a place to document modifications we're making/adding to vbulletin code and/or configuration.
http://mindromp.org/forum/showthread.php?p=6#post6
I didn't configure the reputation/comments system because step 1 would be deciding if/how we want to use that system. Thanks for starting this thread!
I'm going to move it to the forum mismanagement forum. This forum is mostly just a place to document modifications we're making/adding to vbulletin code and/or configuration.
gib
14th January 2012, 08:33 PM
yeh just to be clear i'm not saying we need Comments, i'd just like to discuss the options. Something a bit different from TR would be good actually
oblivion
14th January 2012, 08:40 PM
I like using comments as a sort of mini-pm system. The visitor comments feature also works as a sort of mini-pm system, but it's not private - the comments are visible on members' profile pages.
I also like the thanks feature that Freethought Forum has. The thanks button mod has been coded into tapatalk, which is kinda cool. I doubt that the reputation/comments system will ever be implemented in tapatalk.
That said, I personally don't think that optimizing a site for tapatalk at the expense of full browser functionality really makes sense.
I also like the thanks feature that Freethought Forum has. The thanks button mod has been coded into tapatalk, which is kinda cool. I doubt that the reputation/comments system will ever be implemented in tapatalk.
That said, I personally don't think that optimizing a site for tapatalk at the expense of full browser functionality really makes sense.
Fuzzy
14th January 2012, 08:46 PM
I like using comments as a sort of mini-pm system. The visitor comments feature also works as a sort of mini-pm system, but it's not private - the comments are visible on members' profile pages.
I also like the thanks feature that Freethought Forum has. The thanks button mod has been coded into tapatalk, which is kinda cool. I doubt that the reputation/comments system will ever be implemented in tapatalk.
I've never been on a forum which used the "thanks" feature; it sounds interesting.
I like having some way to let someone know I liked one of their posts, without filling a thread with "+1!" or going through the effort of a PM. I don't have a preference for the particular setup used.
That said, I personally don't think that optimizing a site for tapatalk at the expense of full browser functionality really makes sense.
Agreed.
I also like the thanks feature that Freethought Forum has. The thanks button mod has been coded into tapatalk, which is kinda cool. I doubt that the reputation/comments system will ever be implemented in tapatalk.
I've never been on a forum which used the "thanks" feature; it sounds interesting.
I like having some way to let someone know I liked one of their posts, without filling a thread with "+1!" or going through the effort of a PM. I don't have a preference for the particular setup used.
That said, I personally don't think that optimizing a site for tapatalk at the expense of full browser functionality really makes sense.
Agreed.
gib
14th January 2012, 08:48 PM
the thing about the FF Thanks function that i liked was that the list of those who had thanked on a post was publicly viewable (to people logged on). When i first saw people using it in mafia i thought hey hold on that's gameplay! then i thought ah yeh but so what. So it did provide another mini system, or something
gib
14th January 2012, 08:49 PM
I like having some way to let someone know I liked one of their posts, without filling a thread with "+1!" or going through the effort of a PM. I don't have a preference for the particular setup used.
exactly :cheer:
exactly :cheer:
Jerome
14th January 2012, 09:11 PM
Would 'comments', or whatever variation thereof, be open for all to see?
gib
14th January 2012, 09:13 PM
Would 'comments', or whatever variation thereof, be open for all to see?
what would u prefer
what would u prefer
Jerome
14th January 2012, 09:13 PM
Open for all to see, but not where it can turn into a popularity ranking kind of thing. I like the comments better than the thanks, one can be more specific in what they are saying, maybe having comments viewable to other members like messages on a members user profile page.
oblivion
14th January 2012, 09:15 PM
not sure it can be made completely open in this version of vbulletin. not easily, anyway.
gib
14th January 2012, 09:17 PM
could get hard to follow a thread as people respond to comments
Jerome
14th January 2012, 09:19 PM
sorry guys, I edited my post after you responded.
gib
14th January 2012, 09:20 PM
what about the Thanks button function ob, would it be possible to have say Thanks, Like, Agree, Stop Posting, Dislike, Diasagree, I Just Came buttons etc, or are we limited to 1?
gib
14th January 2012, 09:22 PM
sorry guys, I edited my post after you responded.
*clicks Bully Mercilessly button*
*clicks Bully Mercilessly button*
oblivion
14th January 2012, 09:23 PM
I found a mod that adds a new tab to the member profile page where the comments they have received can be viewed by other members.
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=199976
This is something that I think would need a good amount of discussion and consensus among members before implementing. most people who have been members of other vbulletin forums will be used to private comments. I've seen a public comment system on one site (RnR) and that changed when the site upgraded to version 4.
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=199976
This is something that I think would need a good amount of discussion and consensus among members before implementing. most people who have been members of other vbulletin forums will be used to private comments. I've seen a public comment system on one site (RnR) and that changed when the site upgraded to version 4.
oblivion
14th January 2012, 09:25 PM
what about the Thanks button function ob, would it be possible to have say Thanks, Like, Agree, Stop Posting, Dislike, Diasagree, I Just Came buttons etc, or are we limited to 1?
I don't know. Will have to look at some hacks.
I don't know. Will have to look at some hacks.
gib
14th January 2012, 09:27 PM
I found a mod that adds a new tab to the member profile page where the comments they have received can be viewed by other members.
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=199976
This is something that I think would need a good amount of discussion and consensus among members before implementing. most people who have been members of other vbulletin forums will be used to private comments. I've seen a public comment system on one site (RnR) and that changed when the site upgraded to version 4.
could get messy
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=199976
This is something that I think would need a good amount of discussion and consensus among members before implementing. most people who have been members of other vbulletin forums will be used to private comments. I've seen a public comment system on one site (RnR) and that changed when the site upgraded to version 4.
could get messy
oblivion
14th January 2012, 09:30 PM
I found a mod that adds a new tab to the member profile page where the comments they have received can be viewed by other members.
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=199976
This is something that I think would need a good amount of discussion and consensus among members before implementing. most people who have been members of other vbulletin forums will be used to private comments. I've seen a public comment system on one site (RnR) and that changed when the site upgraded to version 4.
could get messy
It's also not easy to change from private to public after there are comments out there in the database, because people will have had an expectation that the comments would be private. It would be easier to convert from public comments to private later if people decide there's a downside.
http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=199976
This is something that I think would need a good amount of discussion and consensus among members before implementing. most people who have been members of other vbulletin forums will be used to private comments. I've seen a public comment system on one site (RnR) and that changed when the site upgraded to version 4.
could get messy
It's also not easy to change from private to public after there are comments out there in the database, because people will have had an expectation that the comments would be private. It would be easier to convert from public comments to private later if people decide there's a downside.
nostrum
14th January 2012, 09:47 PM
Open for all to see, but not where it can turn into a popularity ranking kind of thing. I like the comments better than the thanks, one can be more specific in what they are saying, maybe having comments viewable to other members like messages on a members user profile page.
I agree, Jerome
I agree, Jerome
gib
14th January 2012, 09:51 PM
Open for all to see, but not where it can turn into a popularity ranking kind of thing. I like the comments better than the thanks, one can be more specific in what they are saying, maybe having comments viewable to other members like messages on a members user profile page.
I agree, Jerome
i kinda like that idea too but what happens when poster C wants to respond to something Poster A wrote in poster B's comments box - ie how does C quote the text, would there be the backlink etc
i guess it could work if the culture was to use it for stuff that doesn't warrant a response - if you want a response use the thread, if not use the comment box
yeh might work
I agree, Jerome
i kinda like that idea too but what happens when poster C wants to respond to something Poster A wrote in poster B's comments box - ie how does C quote the text, would there be the backlink etc
i guess it could work if the culture was to use it for stuff that doesn't warrant a response - if you want a response use the thread, if not use the comment box
yeh might work
charlou
14th January 2012, 10:10 PM
Open for all to see, but not where it can turn into a popularity ranking kind of thing. I like the comments better than the thanks, one can be more specific in what they are saying, maybe having comments viewable to other members like messages on a members user profile page.
In that case why not just post the comment on the member's profile page, or in the thread itself?
Same with private comments ... can be sent by PM .. it's not much more work than the comment box that TR has.
Of the two, I prefer FF's simple "thanks" ... that would get my vote.
In that case why not just post the comment on the member's profile page, or in the thread itself?
Same with private comments ... can be sent by PM .. it's not much more work than the comment box that TR has.
Of the two, I prefer FF's simple "thanks" ... that would get my vote.
Jerome
14th January 2012, 10:13 PM
The only advantage is that you can do it right from the post, you don't have to leave the thread or open a new window to make your comment.
charlou
14th January 2012, 10:17 PM
The only advantage is that you can do it right from the post, you don't have to leave the thread or open a new window to make your comment.
PMs can be sent from a member's post:
click on the member's name on the post and a dropdown of options is revealed
right click on "quote this post in PM to >member<"
PM reply box will open in a new window ... etc
PMs can be sent from a member's post:
click on the member's name on the post and a dropdown of options is revealed
right click on "quote this post in PM to >member<"
PM reply box will open in a new window ... etc
gib
14th January 2012, 10:18 PM
The only advantage is that you can do it right from the post, you don't have to leave the thread or open a new window to make your comment.
plus the person reading the comment knows which post yr referring to
plus the person reading the comment knows which post yr referring to
charlou
14th January 2012, 10:22 PM
The only advantage is that you can do it right from the post, you don't have to leave the thread or open a new window to make your comment.
plus the person reading the comment knows which post yr referring to
see my post above yours.
plus the person reading the comment knows which post yr referring to
see my post above yours.
Jerome
14th January 2012, 10:45 PM
The only advantage is that you can do it right from the post, you don't have to leave the thread or open a new window to make your comment.
PMs can be sent from a member's post:
click on the member's name on the post and a dropdown of options is revealed
right click on "quote this post in PM to >member<"
PM reply box will open in a new window ... etc
Sure, but I prefer the left button on the mouse.
PMs can be sent from a member's post:
click on the member's name on the post and a dropdown of options is revealed
right click on "quote this post in PM to >member<"
PM reply box will open in a new window ... etc
Sure, but I prefer the left button on the mouse.
Adenosine
14th January 2012, 10:48 PM
There have already been several posts here that I've wanted to [Thank] but haven't been able to. I like the FF system which is quick and easy. If you want to add a comment then post in the thread or send a postcard.
gib
14th January 2012, 10:48 PM
*adds Yes comment to jerome's post*
Adenosine
14th January 2012, 10:50 PM
But to address the 'popularity' issue I think that stems from the membership. If we, the early members of Mindromp, decide to play the message rather than the messenger then that should set the tone for Thanks. There are people who I disagree with on an ideological level that still say things that, to me, are worth thanks.
charlou
14th January 2012, 11:12 PM
There have already been several posts here that I've wanted to [Thank] but haven't been able to. I like the FF system which is quick and easy. If you want to add a comment then post in the thread or send a postcard.
postcards .. yes .. I must get in the habit of calling the private messages that.
postcards .. yes .. I must get in the habit of calling the private messages that.
oblivion
14th January 2012, 11:30 PM
what about installing both and see how the two mechanisms get used and what people prefer. I don't think the two systems are mutually exclusive.
We could do a one month trial and then set up a poll to decide if we want to keep one or both.
We could do a one month trial and then set up a poll to decide if we want to keep one or both.
charlou
15th January 2012, 12:11 AM
I see no reason for us not to have the full range of options and we can each make use of them as we like.
Just want to point out, even if the comments are not publicly viewable, they would still be like postcards .. ie members privacy will not be protected by admins .. members will remain responsible for their own interactions and disclosures, as it is with the postcard message system.
Just want to point out, even if the comments are not publicly viewable, they would still be like postcards .. ie members privacy will not be protected by admins .. members will remain responsible for their own interactions and disclosures, as it is with the postcard message system.
Fuzzy
15th January 2012, 12:53 AM
Can we get avatar dressup puppet things just like on CF and gaia online?
oblivion
15th January 2012, 12:58 AM
Can we get avatar dressup puppet things just like on CF and gaia online?
:hair:
:hair:
charlou
15th January 2012, 01:43 AM
sockpuppet mafia would be very http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/charlou/toke.gif
nostrum
15th January 2012, 02:10 AM
But to address the 'popularity' issue I think that stems from the membership. If we, the early members of Mindromp, decide to play the message rather than the messenger then that should set the tone for Thanks. There are people who I disagree with on an ideological level that still say things that, to me, are worth thanks.
Good point, ade. I've got an aversion to the 'thanks' function because I saw it used as a tool for bitchy cliquey "we do not approve" message against hapless posters. In the right hands...
Good point, ade. I've got an aversion to the 'thanks' function because I saw it used as a tool for bitchy cliquey "we do not approve" message against hapless posters. In the right hands...
gib
15th January 2012, 08:24 PM
its u your the hapless poster
Fuzzy
15th January 2012, 08:24 PM
hey maybe we should get a blessings system identical to CF as well!
*blesses gib*
*blesses gib*
Jerome
15th January 2012, 09:16 PM
*blesses Fuzzy Fungi*
Grumps
16th January 2012, 01:18 AM
I have a ticker file around here somewhere...wait...
http://mindromp.org/forum/showthread.php?p=6#post6
I didn't configure the reputation/comments system because step 1 would be deciding if/how we want to use that system. Thanks for starting this thread!
I'm going to move it to the forum mismanagement forum. This forum is mostly just a place to document modifications we're making/adding to vbulletin code and/or configuration.
People talk about popularity from the aggressor side, but there's a secondary flaw with the system - unintentional rejection.
Someone simply doesn't get points, not because nobody likes them or through some concerted effort to alienate/ignore, but rather circumstance alone. They see this and feel dissuaded from posting because they consider what they post to be of little value, or of note.
Then there's also the facebook effect, where so many ordinary posts recieve points or whatever that the system becomes useless as an indicator as to the actual quality of a post.
http://mindromp.org/forum/showthread.php?p=6#post6
I didn't configure the reputation/comments system because step 1 would be deciding if/how we want to use that system. Thanks for starting this thread!
I'm going to move it to the forum mismanagement forum. This forum is mostly just a place to document modifications we're making/adding to vbulletin code and/or configuration.
People talk about popularity from the aggressor side, but there's a secondary flaw with the system - unintentional rejection.
Someone simply doesn't get points, not because nobody likes them or through some concerted effort to alienate/ignore, but rather circumstance alone. They see this and feel dissuaded from posting because they consider what they post to be of little value, or of note.
Then there's also the facebook effect, where so many ordinary posts recieve points or whatever that the system becomes useless as an indicator as to the actual quality of a post.
Danny
16th January 2012, 01:23 AM
They see this and feel dissuaded from posting because they consider what they post to be of little value, or of note.
This is not a flaw
This is not a flaw
Grumps
16th January 2012, 01:26 AM
They see this and feel dissuaded from posting because they consider what they post to be of little value, or of note.
This is not a flaw
It most certainly is. A points system is one step away from a masturbation festival.
This is not a flaw
It most certainly is. A points system is one step away from a masturbation festival.
charlou
16th January 2012, 01:30 AM
^ I was thinking about this, too.
I don't know if having a comment and/or thanks system in place or not makes much difference ... people will respond to each other or not regardless ...
A positive aspect of the "thanks" is it let's a poster know their contribution was noticed and appreciated. Often I read posts, nod acknowledgement without comment and move on .. I think a simple thanks would be nice to let the poster know ...
I don't know if having a comment and/or thanks system in place or not makes much difference ... people will respond to each other or not regardless ...
A positive aspect of the "thanks" is it let's a poster know their contribution was noticed and appreciated. Often I read posts, nod acknowledgement without comment and move on .. I think a simple thanks would be nice to let the poster know ...
Danny
16th January 2012, 01:31 AM
It most certainly is. A points system is one step away from a masturbation festival.
ok well have fun reading posts that no one else is interested in then i guess
ok well have fun reading posts that no one else is interested in then i guess
charlou
16th January 2012, 01:36 AM
I really think a social dynamic will develop with or without additional ways of communicating our thoughts to each other ... In other words, I'm okay with whatever is decided.
divagreen
16th January 2012, 01:47 AM
They see this and feel dissuaded from posting because they consider what they post to be of little value, or of note.
This is not a flaw
It most certainly is. A points system is one step away from a masturbation festival.
:nada:
This is not a flaw
It most certainly is. A points system is one step away from a masturbation festival.
:nada:
Adenosine
16th January 2012, 01:50 AM
Again, I think this is an area where the early members can set the tone.
Jerome
16th January 2012, 01:58 AM
They see this and feel dissuaded from posting because they consider what they post to be of little value, or of note.
I most prefer people say what they want.
I most prefer people say what they want.
Grumps
16th January 2012, 02:07 AM
It most certainly is. A points system is one step away from a masturbation festival.
ok well have fun reading posts that no one else is interested in then i guess
As much fun as it would be to have this backfire on you, I'd rather not miss out on somebody else's insight or opinion because they're worried it won't impress The Mob.
ok well have fun reading posts that no one else is interested in then i guess
As much fun as it would be to have this backfire on you, I'd rather not miss out on somebody else's insight or opinion because they're worried it won't impress The Mob.
divagreen
16th January 2012, 02:08 AM
Again, I think this is an area where the early members can set the tone.
Aden, is this in response to adding a comment section, a thanks button or rep points? Or did it include all of the above?
Aden, is this in response to adding a comment section, a thanks button or rep points? Or did it include all of the above?
charlou
16th January 2012, 02:10 AM
rep points as in reputation points? I didn't know we were discussing that too ... That gets a NO vote from me.
divagreen
16th January 2012, 02:22 AM
rep points as in reputation points? I didn't know we were discussing that too ... That gets a NO vote from me.
I got it from this (http://mindromp.org/forum/showthread.php?t=124&page=5) post.
I am trying to clarify in my own head what is being discussed here. :)
I am against rep points, I think they are silly unless it is a purely science based forum and even then it is a stretch.
So my question is to Grumps; when you say "points", what do you mean?
I got it from this (http://mindromp.org/forum/showthread.php?t=124&page=5) post.
I am trying to clarify in my own head what is being discussed here. :)
I am against rep points, I think they are silly unless it is a purely science based forum and even then it is a stretch.
So my question is to Grumps; when you say "points", what do you mean?
Grumps
16th January 2012, 02:24 AM
rep points as in reputation points? I didn't know we were discussing that too ... That gets a NO vote from me.
I got it from this (http://mindromp.org/forum/showthread.php?t=124&page=5) post.
I am trying to clarify in my own head what is being discussed here. :)
I am against rep points, I think they are silly unless it is a purely science based forum and even then it is a stretch.
So my question is to Grumps; when you say "points", what do you mean?
Any indicator of a post's individual popularity, or a poster's collective popularity. A "point" system of any sort, whether it be 'post comments' or upvotes or +1 or a thumbs up. Anything at all that gives you a sort of visible indicator as to how many people liked one post over another.
Because it adds nothing, and takes away so very much.
I got it from this (http://mindromp.org/forum/showthread.php?t=124&page=5) post.
I am trying to clarify in my own head what is being discussed here. :)
I am against rep points, I think they are silly unless it is a purely science based forum and even then it is a stretch.
So my question is to Grumps; when you say "points", what do you mean?
Any indicator of a post's individual popularity, or a poster's collective popularity. A "point" system of any sort, whether it be 'post comments' or upvotes or +1 or a thumbs up. Anything at all that gives you a sort of visible indicator as to how many people liked one post over another.
Because it adds nothing, and takes away so very much.
Fuzzy
16th January 2012, 02:29 AM
I can see the problem of people possibly becoming dissuaded from making posts because they think they're unliked, but I could see that even without any form of thanks or comment system. A forum of some sufficiently advanced age is going to develop a sense of community and people might be more likely to respond favourably to posters they already have a rapport with without needing a special system to do it.
Restricting a thanks system to positive statements might bypass this problem partially. It removes the possibility of the mob anti-thanking some poor newbie who somehow manages to draw their ire.
Restricting a thanks system to positive statements might bypass this problem partially. It removes the possibility of the mob anti-thanking some poor newbie who somehow manages to draw their ire.
Fuzzy
16th January 2012, 02:31 AM
Because it adds nothing, and takes away so very much.
It adds the ability to let a poster know you liked their post without filling a thread up with posts saying nothing but "Nice post!!". I am not at all convinced it removes much of anything.
eta: I should say, my preference would be for it to be on a post by post basis, as opposed to a user collecting points or something. In fact, my preference would be for post counts to be hidden as well. Such numbers tend to generate hierarchies.
It adds the ability to let a poster know you liked their post without filling a thread up with posts saying nothing but "Nice post!!". I am not at all convinced it removes much of anything.
eta: I should say, my preference would be for it to be on a post by post basis, as opposed to a user collecting points or something. In fact, my preference would be for post counts to be hidden as well. Such numbers tend to generate hierarchies.
Grumps
16th January 2012, 02:33 AM
I can see the problem of people possibly becoming dissuaded from making posts because they think they're unliked, but I could see that even without any form of thanks or comment system. A forum of some sufficiently advanced age is going to develop a sense of community and people might be more likely to respond favourably to posters they already have a rapport with without needing a special system to do it.
Restricting a thanks system to positive statements might bypass this problem partially. It removes the possibility of the mob anti-thanking some poor newbie who somehow manages to draw their ire.
"I've been here two weeks, made 50 posts, and nobody has thanked me yet. What am I doing wrong?" You don't need to be downvoted to feel left out.
Communal alienation only appears in a forum where there are expectations of shared humour and behaviour. *COUGH*
Restricting a thanks system to positive statements might bypass this problem partially. It removes the possibility of the mob anti-thanking some poor newbie who somehow manages to draw their ire.
"I've been here two weeks, made 50 posts, and nobody has thanked me yet. What am I doing wrong?" You don't need to be downvoted to feel left out.
Communal alienation only appears in a forum where there are expectations of shared humour and behaviour. *COUGH*
Grumps
16th January 2012, 02:34 AM
Because it adds nothing, and takes away so very much.
It adds the ability to let a poster know you liked their post without filling a thread up with posts saying nothing but "Nice post!!". I am not at all convinced it removes much of anything.
Quote the post and send a PM, if you feel it's worth commenting on privately. If you agree with a post, surely simply saying so in the thread is enough.
It adds the ability to let a poster know you liked their post without filling a thread up with posts saying nothing but "Nice post!!". I am not at all convinced it removes much of anything.
Quote the post and send a PM, if you feel it's worth commenting on privately. If you agree with a post, surely simply saying so in the thread is enough.
divagreen
16th January 2012, 02:48 AM
rep points as in reputation points? I didn't know we were discussing that too ... That gets a NO vote from me.
I got it from this (http://mindromp.org/forum/showthread.php?t=124&page=5) post.
I am trying to clarify in my own head what is being discussed here. :)
I am against rep points, I think they are silly unless it is a purely science based forum and even then it is a stretch.
So my question is to Grumps; when you say "points", what do you mean?
Any indicator of a post's individual popularity, or a poster's collective popularity. A "point" system of any sort, whether it be 'post comments' or upvotes or +1 or a thumbs up. Anything at all that gives you a sort of visible indicator as to how many people liked one post over another.
Because it adds nothing, and takes away so very much.
And you would put the thanks button in this category? Cos I kinda agree with you.
I like the private comment section at TR and I think that one can make one's comment section public if I am not mistaken? It is their choice.
It seems less intrusive that way and less playing to a crowd, if that makes sense.
I got it from this (http://mindromp.org/forum/showthread.php?t=124&page=5) post.
I am trying to clarify in my own head what is being discussed here. :)
I am against rep points, I think they are silly unless it is a purely science based forum and even then it is a stretch.
So my question is to Grumps; when you say "points", what do you mean?
Any indicator of a post's individual popularity, or a poster's collective popularity. A "point" system of any sort, whether it be 'post comments' or upvotes or +1 or a thumbs up. Anything at all that gives you a sort of visible indicator as to how many people liked one post over another.
Because it adds nothing, and takes away so very much.
And you would put the thanks button in this category? Cos I kinda agree with you.
I like the private comment section at TR and I think that one can make one's comment section public if I am not mistaken? It is their choice.
It seems less intrusive that way and less playing to a crowd, if that makes sense.
Grumps
16th January 2012, 02:53 AM
rep points as in reputation points? I didn't know we were discussing that too ... That gets a NO vote from me.
I got it from this (http://mindromp.org/forum/showthread.php?t=124&page=5) post.
I am trying to clarify in my own head what is being discussed here. :)
I am against rep points, I think they are silly unless it is a purely science based forum and even then it is a stretch.
So my question is to Grumps; when you say "points", what do you mean?
Any indicator of a post's individual popularity, or a poster's collective popularity. A "point" system of any sort, whether it be 'post comments' or upvotes or +1 or a thumbs up. Anything at all that gives you a sort of visible indicator as to how many people liked one post over another.
Because it adds nothing, and takes away so very much.
And you would put the thanks button in this category? Cos I kinda agree with you.
I like the private comment section at TR and I think that one can make one's comment section public if I am not mistaken? It is their choice.
It seems less intrusive that way and less playing to a crowd, if that makes sense.
Yes, it does, but a person's worst critic is their own self. When you have a mechanism like that, it draws focus on to specifically what the community thinks of you as a poster. It's entirely unnecessary.
The PM function would provide the exact same ability, it simply wouldn't be in a way that would force a person to assess their 'contribution' value.
I got it from this (http://mindromp.org/forum/showthread.php?t=124&page=5) post.
I am trying to clarify in my own head what is being discussed here. :)
I am against rep points, I think they are silly unless it is a purely science based forum and even then it is a stretch.
So my question is to Grumps; when you say "points", what do you mean?
Any indicator of a post's individual popularity, or a poster's collective popularity. A "point" system of any sort, whether it be 'post comments' or upvotes or +1 or a thumbs up. Anything at all that gives you a sort of visible indicator as to how many people liked one post over another.
Because it adds nothing, and takes away so very much.
And you would put the thanks button in this category? Cos I kinda agree with you.
I like the private comment section at TR and I think that one can make one's comment section public if I am not mistaken? It is their choice.
It seems less intrusive that way and less playing to a crowd, if that makes sense.
Yes, it does, but a person's worst critic is their own self. When you have a mechanism like that, it draws focus on to specifically what the community thinks of you as a poster. It's entirely unnecessary.
The PM function would provide the exact same ability, it simply wouldn't be in a way that would force a person to assess their 'contribution' value.
Jerome
16th January 2012, 03:16 AM
A positive aspect of the "thanks" is it let's a poster know their contribution was noticed and appreciated.
as is a "comment", but with a personal flavor.
as is a "comment", but with a personal flavor.
nostrum
16th January 2012, 05:28 AM
Yep I agree with grumps. I'm really not a fan of the 'thanks' function. I've noticed on FF where it's used that posters like Liv get a plethora of thanks for nearly every post. There is a mechanism of unintentional rejection.
Comment feature a la TR gets my vote.
Comment feature a la TR gets my vote.
nostrum
16th January 2012, 05:28 AM
^ yes I exaggerate re Liv's posts, but my point holds
Magicziggy
16th January 2012, 05:43 AM
Because it adds nothing, and takes away so very much.
It adds the ability to let a poster know you liked their post without filling a thread up with posts saying nothing but "Nice post!!". I am not at all convinced it removes much of anything.
Quote the post and send a PM, if you feel it's worth commenting on privately. If you agree with a post, surely simply saying so in the thread is enough.
*MZ likes this post*
It adds the ability to let a poster know you liked their post without filling a thread up with posts saying nothing but "Nice post!!". I am not at all convinced it removes much of anything.
Quote the post and send a PM, if you feel it's worth commenting on privately. If you agree with a post, surely simply saying so in the thread is enough.
*MZ likes this post*
Gonzo
16th January 2012, 08:00 AM
NO.
You can not take the Thanks feature from :ff:, sorry. That's something close to an intellectual property of the admins there. They came up with it as part of the forum design and it has defined the way that forum works. I, along with pretty much all the rest of the membership there, would be pissed if MindRomp stole it. I like the idea of a "+1" or something along those lines to show agreement, but 'Thanks' is taken, guys.
You can not take the Thanks feature from :ff:, sorry. That's something close to an intellectual property of the admins there. They came up with it as part of the forum design and it has defined the way that forum works. I, along with pretty much all the rest of the membership there, would be pissed if MindRomp stole it. I like the idea of a "+1" or something along those lines to show agreement, but 'Thanks' is taken, guys.
Gonzo
16th January 2012, 08:19 AM
How about "Gromped"?
As in
Gromped by: Adenosine (Today) Elouise (Today), nostrum (Today)
As in
Gromped by: Adenosine (Today) Elouise (Today), nostrum (Today)
nostrum
16th January 2012, 09:16 AM
NO.
You can not take the Thanks feature from :ff:, sorry. That's something close to an intellectual property of the admins there. They came up with it as part of the forum design and it has defined the way that forum works. I, along with pretty much all the rest of the membership there, would be pissed if MindRomp stole it. I like the idea of a "+1" or something along those lines to show agreement, but 'Thanks' is taken, guys.
I'm thrilled to hear that... I don't like that feature :p
You can not take the Thanks feature from :ff:, sorry. That's something close to an intellectual property of the admins there. They came up with it as part of the forum design and it has defined the way that forum works. I, along with pretty much all the rest of the membership there, would be pissed if MindRomp stole it. I like the idea of a "+1" or something along those lines to show agreement, but 'Thanks' is taken, guys.
I'm thrilled to hear that... I don't like that feature :p
Hermit
16th January 2012, 09:26 AM
We kind of have a <Thanks> button already. It's in the bottom right corner of every post, and looks like this: http://mindromp.org/forum/images/buttons/sendtofriend.gif. Click on that, click on something like this smiley -->:thumbsup:<--, click on send, then carry on as it were. That'll do me anyway.
The 'thanks' tally at FF is somewhat competitive. Some of the score leaders have been discussing totals, thanks to post ratios and such in at least one thread specifically created for gloating purposes.
I don't particularly care about any claims of ownership. The feature is not particularly original anyway. There are plenty of similar ones about the forum world. I just don't want to see anything like it here.
Would someone kindly attach some sort of a poll to this thread in order to get a picture of what members think of this issue?
The 'thanks' tally at FF is somewhat competitive. Some of the score leaders have been discussing totals, thanks to post ratios and such in at least one thread specifically created for gloating purposes.
I don't particularly care about any claims of ownership. The feature is not particularly original anyway. There are plenty of similar ones about the forum world. I just don't want to see anything like it here.
Would someone kindly attach some sort of a poll to this thread in order to get a picture of what members think of this issue?
Gonzo
16th January 2012, 09:47 AM
:stare:
It's a joke. It's funny because some people actually believe that it is a competition.
It's a joke. It's funny because some people actually believe that it is a competition.
Exi5tentialist
16th January 2012, 09:48 AM
NO.
That sounds like a yes to me
That sounds like a yes to me
Gonzo
16th January 2012, 09:51 AM
I wouldn't mind a button, especially if it was to Gromp people because it sounds dirty and wrong.
But, srsly, if I wanted a 'Thanks' button I would go to :ff:, where it was invented.
But, srsly, if I wanted a 'Thanks' button I would go to :ff:, where it was invented.
Adenosine
16th January 2012, 09:59 AM
Again, I think this is an area where the early members can set the tone.
Aden, is this in response to adding a comment section, a thanks button or rep points? Or did it include all of the above?
It was more about a Thanks button. I'm against rep since it goes from post to post, Thanks stays put. I'm not opposed to a comment function, it's just a pain in the arse to use. Could we have a private thanks function, where only the recipient sees it?
Aden, is this in response to adding a comment section, a thanks button or rep points? Or did it include all of the above?
It was more about a Thanks button. I'm against rep since it goes from post to post, Thanks stays put. I'm not opposed to a comment function, it's just a pain in the arse to use. Could we have a private thanks function, where only the recipient sees it?
Adenosine
16th January 2012, 10:01 AM
How about "Gromped"?
As in
Gromped by: Adenosine (Today) Elouise (Today), nostrum (Today)
Ha, you wish you got gromped by us. It'd be the best damn gromping you'd ever have. You'd be telling your grandkids about the gromping you got.
As in
Gromped by: Adenosine (Today) Elouise (Today), nostrum (Today)
Ha, you wish you got gromped by us. It'd be the best damn gromping you'd ever have. You'd be telling your grandkids about the gromping you got.
MSG
16th January 2012, 11:03 AM
Yep I agree with grumps. I'm really not a fan of the 'thanks' function. I've noticed on FF where it's used that posters like Liv get a plethora of thanks for nearly every post. There is a mechanism of unintentional rejection.
Comment feature a la TR gets my vote.
Ditto. I like getting comments from people, especially comments saying "lol" from people who start threads calling out people who say "lol"... :D
Comment feature a la TR gets my vote.
Ditto. I like getting comments from people, especially comments saying "lol" from people who start threads calling out people who say "lol"... :D
divagreen
16th January 2012, 11:11 AM
Yep I agree with grumps. I'm really not a fan of the 'thanks' function. I've noticed on FF where it's used that posters like Liv get a plethora of thanks for nearly every post. There is a mechanism of unintentional rejection.
Comment feature a la TR gets my vote.
Ditto. I like getting comments from people, especially comments saying "lol" from people who start threads calling out people who say "lol"... :D
BWRV spotted
Comment feature a la TR gets my vote.
Ditto. I like getting comments from people, especially comments saying "lol" from people who start threads calling out people who say "lol"... :D
BWRV spotted
nostrum
16th January 2012, 03:39 PM
LOL
ConvolutedLogic
16th January 2012, 03:49 PM
My admin powers are not working. :nope::dunno:
oblivion
16th January 2012, 03:50 PM
I also would prefer not to see a full blown rep points system in place. However, I like being able to leave someone a quick comment about their post (or about something else entirely) via the rep commments feature, but it's not all that hard to work around, and I often wind 3 replies deep in a PM convo that started with someone leaving me a comment on a post.
I didn't realize that the thanks button was invented at/for FF, though I am not surprised to learn this. I've seen the feature on other sites, and as I mentioned earlier it's been enabled in tapatalk. the thanks button is installed on the tapatalk forum, too, which probably explains why it was enabled in their app. :D
I didn't realize that the thanks button was invented at/for FF, though I am not surprised to learn this. I've seen the feature on other sites, and as I mentioned earlier it's been enabled in tapatalk. the thanks button is installed on the tapatalk forum, too, which probably explains why it was enabled in their app. :D
Gonzo
16th January 2012, 03:53 PM
I'm not 100% sure it was created there, but I'm 100% sure it was.
Either way, I think it's become so much a trademark of that place it would be lame to take it. And, also, I hate rep systems. SO MUCH.
Either way, I think it's become so much a trademark of that place it would be lame to take it. And, also, I hate rep systems. SO MUCH.
oblivion
16th January 2012, 03:54 PM
I'm not 100% sure it was created there, but I'm 100% sure it was.
Either way, I think it's become so much a trademark of that place it would be lame to take it. And, also, I hate rep systems. SO MUCH.
the point systems? the comment feature? both?
Either way, I think it's become so much a trademark of that place it would be lame to take it. And, also, I hate rep systems. SO MUCH.
the point systems? the comment feature? both?
Gonzo
16th January 2012, 03:56 PM
comments are okay. I would favor them here. But the rep points thing doesn't make sense to me, and I think assholes usually get the most rep. at least that's how it goes on the wrestling forum I used to frequent now and then.
Mr. Mellow
17th January 2012, 03:58 AM
This is my problem, but if a forum starts resembling a school cafeteria with cool-people tables and un-cool-people tables, I start going home for lunch. In-thread comments or quote-and-PM seems to do it, unless I'm not understanding the benefit of what these other fora have implemented.
nostrum
17th January 2012, 04:40 AM
This is my problem, but if a forum starts resembling a school cafeteria with cool-people tables and un-cool-people tables, I start going home for lunch. In-thread comments or quote-and-PM seems to do it, unless I'm not understanding the benefit of what these other fora have implemented.
TR has a function whereby you can click on a button next to a post, and it opens a small dialogue box for you to send a comment to the poster. It's private.
I like it a lot.
TR has a function whereby you can click on a button next to a post, and it opens a small dialogue box for you to send a comment to the poster. It's private.
I like it a lot.
Hermit
17th January 2012, 05:14 AM
This is my problem, but if a forum starts resembling a school cafeteria with cool-people tables and un-cool-people tables, I start going home for lunch. In-thread comments or quote-and-PM seems to do it, unless I'm not understanding the benefit of what these other fora have implemented.
TR has a function whereby you can click on a button next to a post, and it opens a small dialogue box for you to send a comment to the poster. It's private.
So does MindRomp. It is located in the right hand bottom corner of every post and looks like this: http://mindromp.org/forum/images/buttons/sendtofriend.gif
TR has a function whereby you can click on a button next to a post, and it opens a small dialogue box for you to send a comment to the poster. It's private.
So does MindRomp. It is located in the right hand bottom corner of every post and looks like this: http://mindromp.org/forum/images/buttons/sendtofriend.gif
nostrum
17th January 2012, 05:16 AM
This is my problem, but if a forum starts resembling a school cafeteria with cool-people tables and un-cool-people tables, I start going home for lunch. In-thread comments or quote-and-PM seems to do it, unless I'm not understanding the benefit of what these other fora have implemented.
TR has a function whereby you can click on a button next to a post, and it opens a small dialogue box for you to send a comment to the poster. It's private.
So does MindRomp. It is located in the right hand bottom corner of every post and looks like this: http://mindromp.org/forum/images/buttons/sendtofriend.gif
Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm much happier sending a comment to someone I don't "know" than I would be sending them a post card.
TR has a function whereby you can click on a button next to a post, and it opens a small dialogue box for you to send a comment to the poster. It's private.
So does MindRomp. It is located in the right hand bottom corner of every post and looks like this: http://mindromp.org/forum/images/buttons/sendtofriend.gif
Yeah, not quite the same thing. I'm much happier sending a comment to someone I don't "know" than I would be sending them a post card.
nostrum
17th January 2012, 05:51 AM
To clarify, on TR (which is the place that I discovered the 'comment' functionality) I will readily send a quick comment - a quick dialogue box popping up rather than taking me to the PM section - to anyone whose post I think is particularly funny, or I agree with etc. I wouldn't do that with just PM, because it's a hassle plus I'd feel obliged to write more in a PM than just 'LOL' or 'true'. I've got to know a number of people on TR just through reciprocal commenting, that I'd never have actually PM'd, just because I'd feel awkward or obliged to say more. I certainly prefer getting far more comments than PMs, too.
Just my $0.02.
My vote is, IF we're going to have something, I'd want it to be comments, not thanks (or any twist on that) or reps or anything else.
Just my $0.02.
My vote is, IF we're going to have something, I'd want it to be comments, not thanks (or any twist on that) or reps or anything else.
divagreen
17th January 2012, 06:08 AM
^ this.
Mr. Mellow
17th January 2012, 06:13 AM
Thanks, Nostrum, I get the diff now.
MSG
17th January 2012, 07:12 AM
To clarify, on TR (which is the place that I discovered the 'comment' functionality) I will readily send a quick comment - a quick dialogue box popping up rather than taking me to the PM section - to anyone whose post I think is particularly funny, or I agree with etc. I wouldn't do that with just PM, because it's a hassle plus I'd feel obliged to write more in a PM than just 'LOL' or 'true'. I've got to know a number of people on TR just through reciprocal commenting, that I'd never have actually PM'd, just because I'd feel awkward or obliged to say more. I certainly prefer getting far more comments than PMs, too.
Just my $0.02.
My vote is, IF we're going to have something, I'd want it to be comments, not thanks (or any twist on that) or reps or anything else.
^ this.
^ this.
Just my $0.02.
My vote is, IF we're going to have something, I'd want it to be comments, not thanks (or any twist on that) or reps or anything else.
^ this.
^ this.
Grumps
18th January 2012, 11:47 AM
This is my problem, but if a forum starts resembling a school cafeteria with cool-people tables and un-cool-people tables, I start going home for lunch. In-thread comments or quote-and-PM seems to do it, unless I'm not understanding the benefit of what these other fora have implemented.
TR has a function whereby you can click on a button next to a post, and it opens a small dialogue box for you to send a comment to the poster. It's private.
So does MindRomp. It is located in the right hand bottom corner of every post and looks like this: http://mindromp.org/forum/images/buttons/sendtofriend.gif
Seraph has the right of it. From a pragmatic standpoint, the comment function is superfluous. You can already do exactly what you're saying you wish to.
To state that a message written via PM is in anyway different to a message specifically sent through some comment mechanism is just plain silly. It's the same thing just in a different spot.
TR has a function whereby you can click on a button next to a post, and it opens a small dialogue box for you to send a comment to the poster. It's private.
So does MindRomp. It is located in the right hand bottom corner of every post and looks like this: http://mindromp.org/forum/images/buttons/sendtofriend.gif
Seraph has the right of it. From a pragmatic standpoint, the comment function is superfluous. You can already do exactly what you're saying you wish to.
To state that a message written via PM is in anyway different to a message specifically sent through some comment mechanism is just plain silly. It's the same thing just in a different spot.
Adenosine
18th January 2012, 12:01 PM
Postcards are limited though. You can only receive so many.
Grumps
18th January 2012, 12:07 PM
Postcards are limited though. You can only receive so many.
I wasn't aware people made a habit of hoarding 5000 post cards.
I wasn't aware people made a habit of hoarding 5000 post cards.
nostrum
19th January 2012, 03:32 AM
Postcards are limited though. You can only receive so many.
I wasn't aware people made a habit of hoarding 5000 post cards.
I don't know if anyone has ever said this to you before, but you're a bit of a grumps.
I wasn't aware people made a habit of hoarding 5000 post cards.
I don't know if anyone has ever said this to you before, but you're a bit of a grumps.
Grumps
19th January 2012, 05:52 AM
Postcards are limited though. You can only receive so many.
I wasn't aware people made a habit of hoarding 5000 post cards.
I don't know if anyone has ever said this to you before, but you're a bit of a grumps.
Never quite so politey, anyway.
I wasn't aware people made a habit of hoarding 5000 post cards.
I don't know if anyone has ever said this to you before, but you're a bit of a grumps.
Never quite so politey, anyway.
gib
14th November 2012, 02:16 PM
bump
Gonzo
17th November 2012, 01:43 PM
Where the fuck was the vote on this?
Magicziggy
17th November 2012, 10:30 PM
There wasn't one.
If you look at all the features that have been installed on the forum, not one was subject to a vote. Just a suck it and see approach.
If you look at all the features that have been installed on the forum, not one was subject to a vote. Just a suck it and see approach.
Gonzo
18th November 2012, 10:32 PM
I enjoyed not having every post I make subject to approval.
oblivion
18th November 2012, 10:38 PM
I can configure it so that your posts don't have a thanks button for people to click. I can also configure it so that you don't see thanks buttons on others' posts.
Would you like me to make either of those changes?
Would you like me to make either of those changes?
Adenosine
18th November 2012, 11:08 PM
I enjoyed not having every post I make subject to approval.
Funny. You lave lauded the Thanks function on FF.
Funny. You lave lauded the Thanks function on FF.
Supernaut
19th November 2012, 04:00 PM
I think it is a good feature.
Gonzo
20th November 2012, 09:48 AM
I enjoyed not having every post I make subject to approval.
Funny. You lave lauded the Thanks function on FF.
In a satirical fashion, yes.
I just feel like MR needs to find it's own identity and you have already bragged to livius drusus about creating a forum in the image of FF. Now you have taken one of the last things that made FF and MR different. I'll live with it, but I have to say I'm disappointed that it was implemented without any sort of group decision making or debate.
Funny. You lave lauded the Thanks function on FF.
In a satirical fashion, yes.
I just feel like MR needs to find it's own identity and you have already bragged to livius drusus about creating a forum in the image of FF. Now you have taken one of the last things that made FF and MR different. I'll live with it, but I have to say I'm disappointed that it was implemented without any sort of group decision making or debate.
Gonzo
20th November 2012, 09:51 AM
I also feel bad for liv because she DOES feel ripped off for years of hardwork.
Magicziggy
20th November 2012, 09:52 AM
It's not just ff. ratskep has it and its a good feature. And the discussion can happen still. We can get rid of it any time. That's the discussion.
Magicziggy
20th November 2012, 09:52 AM
I also feel bad for liv because she DOES feel ripped off for years of hardwork.
Come again? Have we stolen something?
Come again? Have we stolen something?
MSG
20th November 2012, 09:54 AM
i'm not a fan of it.
oblivion
20th November 2012, 10:00 AM
it adds a little clutter. The only thing I really like about it is that it works with tapatalk. I wish comments did.
Is this for real? Liv feels ripped off? The thanks add-on is available at vbulletin.org. It's been installed on a lot of sites.
Is this for real? Liv feels ripped off? The thanks add-on is available at vbulletin.org. It's been installed on a lot of sites.
Magicziggy
20th November 2012, 10:09 AM
What we really need is a dislike function. That would set us apart.
Gonzo
20th November 2012, 11:23 AM
I also feel bad for liv because she DOES feel ripped off for years of hardwork.
Come again? Have we stolen something?
The aesthetic design of MR is almost identical to FF. Adenosine is aware of that, too.
Come again? Have we stolen something?
The aesthetic design of MR is almost identical to FF. Adenosine is aware of that, too.
Gonzo
20th November 2012, 11:25 AM
it adds a little clutter. The only thing I really like about it is that it works with tapatalk. I wish comments did.
Is this for real? Liv feels ripped off? The thanks add-on is available at vbulletin.org. It's been installed on a lot of sites.
In her opinion, the only thing that has not been taken is the smiley hoard. I am only bringing this up because it is important to me that her feelings are respected and I understand where she was coming from. Then again, we had that discussion many months ago.
Is this for real? Liv feels ripped off? The thanks add-on is available at vbulletin.org. It's been installed on a lot of sites.
In her opinion, the only thing that has not been taken is the smiley hoard. I am only bringing this up because it is important to me that her feelings are respected and I understand where she was coming from. Then again, we had that discussion many months ago.
Gonzo
20th November 2012, 11:29 AM
Also, I find it hilarious that we have the ability to remove OTHER people's thanks. I just took gib's thank off of MSG screwing around. Is that because I am equipped with admin powers or because the function is broke?
Magicziggy
20th November 2012, 12:21 PM
it adds a little clutter. The only thing I really like about it is that it works with tapatalk. I wish comments did.
Is this for real? Liv feels ripped off? The thanks add-on is available at vbulletin.org. It's been installed on a lot of sites.
In her opinion, the only thing that has not been taken is the smiley hoard. I am only bringing this up because it is important to me that her feelings are respected and I understand where she was coming from. Then again, we had that discussion many months ago.
So a new board is supposed to avoid using popular features so as to not offend other boards that are using the same features?
I disagree. If its available and people want it, then why not have it. Actually I find ff to be difficult to navigate which speaks of some of the differences. It has a different look and feel.
Is this for real? Liv feels ripped off? The thanks add-on is available at vbulletin.org. It's been installed on a lot of sites.
In her opinion, the only thing that has not been taken is the smiley hoard. I am only bringing this up because it is important to me that her feelings are respected and I understand where she was coming from. Then again, we had that discussion many months ago.
So a new board is supposed to avoid using popular features so as to not offend other boards that are using the same features?
I disagree. If its available and people want it, then why not have it. Actually I find ff to be difficult to navigate which speaks of some of the differences. It has a different look and feel.
borealis
20th November 2012, 12:30 PM
FF looks and navigates quite differently. If anything, MR looks more like TR than like FF. This is a weird issue.
Magicziggy
20th November 2012, 12:33 PM
Yes, quite. TR feels the same. Like going to New Zealand. FF is like going to Mars.
Magicziggy
20th November 2012, 12:35 PM
..or Essex.
borealis
20th November 2012, 12:39 PM
it adds a little clutter. The only thing I really like about it is that it works with tapatalk. I wish comments did.
Is this for real? Liv feels ripped off? The thanks add-on is available at vbulletin.org. It's been installed on a lot of sites.
In her opinion, the only thing that has not been taken is the smiley hoard. I am only bringing this up because it is important to me that her feelings are respected and I understand where she was coming from. Then again, we had that discussion many months ago.
FF looks and navigates quite differently. If anything, MR looks more like TR than like FF. This is a weird issue.
Gonzo, honestly this just looks like Jerome style oblivion-bashing, not something I'd thought you capable of.
Is this for real? Liv feels ripped off? The thanks add-on is available at vbulletin.org. It's been installed on a lot of sites.
In her opinion, the only thing that has not been taken is the smiley hoard. I am only bringing this up because it is important to me that her feelings are respected and I understand where she was coming from. Then again, we had that discussion many months ago.
FF looks and navigates quite differently. If anything, MR looks more like TR than like FF. This is a weird issue.
Gonzo, honestly this just looks like Jerome style oblivion-bashing, not something I'd thought you capable of.
Adenosine
20th November 2012, 12:47 PM
I also feel bad for liv because she DOES feel ripped off for years of hardwork.
Come again? Have we stolen something?
The aesthetic design of MR is almost identical to FF. Adenosine is aware of that, too.
:unsure:
I've PMed liv to clear it up.
Come again? Have we stolen something?
The aesthetic design of MR is almost identical to FF. Adenosine is aware of that, too.
:unsure:
I've PMed liv to clear it up.
oblivion
20th November 2012, 03:38 PM
it adds a little clutter. The only thing I really like about it is that it works with tapatalk. I wish comments did.
Is this for real? Liv feels ripped off? The thanks add-on is available at vbulletin.org. It's been installed on a lot of sites.
In her opinion, the only thing that has not been taken is the smiley hoard. I am only bringing this up because it is important to me that her feelings are respected and I understand where she was coming from. Then again, we had that discussion many months ago.
I'm shocked, and I dont get how we've taken any features from FF, unless they are commonly available features that a lot of sites use. I've tried to give MR a bit of its own look and feel, and added/configured/coded stuff that make certain things work a little more like phpbb, but it does look a lot like TR because the look and feel are based on vanilla vbulletin, not a custom template, like TR. And because I've installed a lot of the same add-ons on both sites because they are good features.
Also, I find it hilarious that we have the ability to remove OTHER people's thanks. I just took gib's thank off of MSG screwing around. Is that because I am equipped with admin powers or because the function is broke?
yes, that's because you have admin access.
Is this for real? Liv feels ripped off? The thanks add-on is available at vbulletin.org. It's been installed on a lot of sites.
In her opinion, the only thing that has not been taken is the smiley hoard. I am only bringing this up because it is important to me that her feelings are respected and I understand where she was coming from. Then again, we had that discussion many months ago.
I'm shocked, and I dont get how we've taken any features from FF, unless they are commonly available features that a lot of sites use. I've tried to give MR a bit of its own look and feel, and added/configured/coded stuff that make certain things work a little more like phpbb, but it does look a lot like TR because the look and feel are based on vanilla vbulletin, not a custom template, like TR. And because I've installed a lot of the same add-ons on both sites because they are good features.
Also, I find it hilarious that we have the ability to remove OTHER people's thanks. I just took gib's thank off of MSG screwing around. Is that because I am equipped with admin powers or because the function is broke?
yes, that's because you have admin access.
oblivion
20th November 2012, 03:40 PM
I also feel bad for liv because she DOES feel ripped off for years of hardwork.
Come again? Have we stolen something?
The aesthetic design of MR is almost identical to FF. Adenosine is aware of that, too.
:unsure:
I've PMed liv to clear it up.
I'll hold off, then. Please let me know if she does think that I have tried to make MR look and feel like FF.
Come again? Have we stolen something?
The aesthetic design of MR is almost identical to FF. Adenosine is aware of that, too.
:unsure:
I've PMed liv to clear it up.
I'll hold off, then. Please let me know if she does think that I have tried to make MR look and feel like FF.
Supernaut
20th November 2012, 07:21 PM
Who is liv and why does MR give a fuck about what she says/thinks?
MSG
20th November 2012, 07:24 PM
Hey guys.lets not have a pile-on on gonzo. He was just expressing an opinion
oblivion
20th November 2012, 07:43 PM
Who is liv and why does MR give a fuck about what she says/thinks?
She's one of the admins of Freethought Forum. Several MR members post there, too. I think of her as a friend and at times a mentor. she's put a lot of thought into message board cultures and how to configure the software in ways that facilitate cultural goals.
She's one of the admins of Freethought Forum. Several MR members post there, too. I think of her as a friend and at times a mentor. she's put a lot of thought into message board cultures and how to configure the software in ways that facilitate cultural goals.
Adenosine
20th November 2012, 08:42 PM
I got a response from liv, there's no problem.
Adenosine
20th November 2012, 08:47 PM
Hey guys.lets not have a pile-on on gonzo. He was just expressing an opinion
This isn't an opinion. This is a statement of fact which happens to be completely factually incorrect.
it adds a little clutter. The only thing I really like about it is that it works with tapatalk. I wish comments did.
Is this for real? Liv feels ripped off? The thanks add-on is available at vbulletin.org. It's been installed on a lot of sites.
In her opinion, the only thing that has not been taken is the smiley hoard. I am only bringing this up because it is important to me that her feelings are respected and I understand where she was coming from. Then again, we had that discussion many months ago.
This isn't an opinion. This is a statement of fact which happens to be completely factually incorrect.
it adds a little clutter. The only thing I really like about it is that it works with tapatalk. I wish comments did.
Is this for real? Liv feels ripped off? The thanks add-on is available at vbulletin.org. It's been installed on a lot of sites.
In her opinion, the only thing that has not been taken is the smiley hoard. I am only bringing this up because it is important to me that her feelings are respected and I understand where she was coming from. Then again, we had that discussion many months ago.
MSG
20th November 2012, 08:50 PM
well that's your opinion :colbert:
fleamailman
20th November 2012, 09:03 PM
("...I love that thanks button, simply it saves me so much time, it lets the poster know that I have read their post, moreover, I have seen it work well on forums both as a indication of one's support and as a call for more without disrupting the proceedings..." mentioned the goblin suggesting that those who didn't like it not use it but that he himself would use it, if only to prove that he was reading the posts now, thus supporting in his way , adding "...btw, now that the TR trolls have had their pictures of shit blinkered out but not edited, I'm staying on after I win my bet if that would be ok with everyone, where the truth is that I don't as yet see where you want your posting experience to go here, or whether Mindromp forum isn't just wasting you time then, me, I want to build up a collection of posts that has me looking upon christmas day if not with pride well at least not with guilt then, so keep a close eye on your time here, I've met many posters here, seen real talent too, think this forum can match the others, but dammed if I'll waste my time now, life is too short to be with those who can't focus on their posts...")
MondoVman
20th November 2012, 10:10 PM
I can also configure it so that you don't see thanks buttons on others' posts. ... Would you like me to ...
Something more, actually. I wish that we less incestuous, less promiscuous members had a quick toggle option to display or NOT the "Thanks feature set", i.e. all bottom-of-post "Thanks" buttons and all "Thanks from" posts.
How about a "Thanks On/Off" button similar to "Worksafe On/Off"?
ETA: Wouldst we be-ist differnt dan dat XX foarum den?
Something more, actually. I wish that we less incestuous, less promiscuous members had a quick toggle option to display or NOT the "Thanks feature set", i.e. all bottom-of-post "Thanks" buttons and all "Thanks from" posts.
How about a "Thanks On/Off" button similar to "Worksafe On/Off"?
ETA: Wouldst we be-ist differnt dan dat XX foarum den?
Supernaut
20th November 2012, 10:20 PM
Hey guys.lets not have a pile-on on gonzo. He was just expressing an opinion
My part in it was purely sexual.
My part in it was purely sexual.
Supernaut
20th November 2012, 10:21 PM
Who is liv and why does MR give a fuck about what she says/thinks?
She's one of the admins of Freethought Forum. Several MR members post there, too. I think of her as a friend and at times a mentor. she's put a lot of thought into message board cultures and how to configure the software in ways that facilitate cultural goals.
I trust your opinion. I am sure she is very nice.
She's one of the admins of Freethought Forum. Several MR members post there, too. I think of her as a friend and at times a mentor. she's put a lot of thought into message board cultures and how to configure the software in ways that facilitate cultural goals.
I trust your opinion. I am sure she is very nice.
MSG
20th November 2012, 11:25 PM
You're such a suck-up.
Eta :P
Eta :P
fleamailman
20th November 2012, 11:36 PM
("...hope liv is as good as you point out, as I've started posting there too..." mentioned the goblin, adding "...what's her username then, and would it best not to mention this forum for the shame of it...")
oblivion
20th November 2012, 11:45 PM
her name is livius drusus
MondoVman
20th November 2012, 11:49 PM
fmm, please feel free to keep your shame of it here with us.
Not really sure what "it" you meant, but why paint your impressions of elsewheres all over thereabouts and otherwheres?
Not really sure what "it" you meant, but why paint your impressions of elsewheres all over thereabouts and otherwheres?
Supernaut
21st November 2012, 02:31 AM
You're such a suck-up.
Eta :P
god...you have no idea how many times I have been told that...wait...."suck up"....oh...shit n/m!
Eta :P
god...you have no idea how many times I have been told that...wait...."suck up"....oh...shit n/m!
Gonzo
21st November 2012, 06:52 AM
it adds a little clutter. The only thing I really like about it is that it works with tapatalk. I wish comments did.
Is this for real? Liv feels ripped off? The thanks add-on is available at vbulletin.org. It's been installed on a lot of sites.
In her opinion, the only thing that has not been taken is the smiley hoard. I am only bringing this up because it is important to me that her feelings are respected and I understand where she was coming from. Then again, we had that discussion many months ago.
FF looks and navigates quite differently. If anything, MR looks more like TR than like FF. This is a weird issue.
Gonzo, honestly this just looks like Jerome style oblivion-bashing, not something I'd thought you capable of.
How often do I give my opinion on anything serious.
Honestly, I think it would be cool to put a thanks AND a dislike... it's a more democratic way of showing approval or disapproval and I think it would work well here. Facebook, FF, and ratskept only give the option to give approval, being able to put down a vote of disapproval is pretty cool.
Is this for real? Liv feels ripped off? The thanks add-on is available at vbulletin.org. It's been installed on a lot of sites.
In her opinion, the only thing that has not been taken is the smiley hoard. I am only bringing this up because it is important to me that her feelings are respected and I understand where she was coming from. Then again, we had that discussion many months ago.
FF looks and navigates quite differently. If anything, MR looks more like TR than like FF. This is a weird issue.
Gonzo, honestly this just looks like Jerome style oblivion-bashing, not something I'd thought you capable of.
How often do I give my opinion on anything serious.
Honestly, I think it would be cool to put a thanks AND a dislike... it's a more democratic way of showing approval or disapproval and I think it would work well here. Facebook, FF, and ratskept only give the option to give approval, being able to put down a vote of disapproval is pretty cool.
Gonzo
21st November 2012, 06:56 AM
I'm not trying to make a strawman out of liv, either. I genuinely believe we should try something different here. That's all.
Sorry for any vitriol felt, I love you all, you know. <3 <3 <3
Sorry for any vitriol felt, I love you all, you know. <3 <3 <3
Magicziggy
21st November 2012, 07:00 AM
So can we do the dislike thing?
oblivion
21st November 2012, 07:14 AM
not sure. will see what I can come up with. in general, forums and social media focus on positive feedback, though there are exceptions.
MSG
21st November 2012, 07:15 AM
So can we do the dislike thing?
can I just reply by saying "no, FU?"
can I just reply by saying "no, FU?"
Adenosine
21st November 2012, 07:44 AM
I'm not trying to make a strawman out of liv, either. I genuinely believe we should try something different here. That's all.
Sorry for any vitriol felt, I love you all, you know. <3 <3 <3
That isn't what you said. You said liv was pissed that we had stolen everything from FF. Furthermore you said that MR was just like FF.
What were you trying to accomplish?
Sorry for any vitriol felt, I love you all, you know. <3 <3 <3
That isn't what you said. You said liv was pissed that we had stolen everything from FF. Furthermore you said that MR was just like FF.
What were you trying to accomplish?
Gonzo
21st November 2012, 10:51 AM
Nothing, man. Aside from proving a point that the thanks is just a loaded meme to take from FF, in a sense, and if you are going to use it here; there should at least be something to counter balance it or make it in anyway different than a [thanks]TM
Gonzo
21st November 2012, 10:51 AM
Copyright :ff: 2007
Gonzo
21st November 2012, 10:54 AM
God, I dunno. :coffee:
It's just the internet, so whatever. :nice:
It's just the internet, so whatever. :nice:
rudeigineile
21st November 2012, 12:25 PM
How 'bout we let this lie before the factions are drawn. ;)
Supernaut
21st November 2012, 06:10 PM
I love you all, you know. <3 <3 <3
How much do you love me? :smug:
How much do you love me? :smug:
Supernaut
21st November 2012, 06:11 PM
How 'bout we let this lie before the factions are drawn. ;)
I lead the gay faction....just sayin
I lead the gay faction....just sayin
nick
21st November 2012, 06:20 PM
I lead the anti-gay faction. I promise the gay agenda shall never overtake mindromp as long as I draw breath.
MSG
21st November 2012, 07:25 PM
too late
eta better kill yourself, nick
eta better kill yourself, nick
rudeigineile
21st November 2012, 07:57 PM
aw crap is this a mafia thread? I thought I had that forum blocked. :wrath:
oblivion
21st November 2012, 09:03 PM
(((rud)))
Supernaut
21st November 2012, 11:28 PM
I lead the anti-gay faction. I promise the gay agenda shall never overtake mindromp as long as I draw breath.
too late
eta better kill yourself, nick
:nada:
too late
eta better kill yourself, nick
:nada:
MondoVman
22nd November 2012, 05:45 AM
Let's spell "dislike" as "no thanks" and add a "No Thanks" button.
Gonzo
22nd November 2012, 06:10 AM
^^^^
DO IT.
DO IT.
MondoVman
22nd November 2012, 07:14 AM
So that would make for a Thanks gang and a No Thanks gang per post. Should we toss Thankless into the mix, too?
Thanks from:
... Thanks: BiggestAssKisserHere (5 seconds ago)
... No Thanks: Fugetmenot, troll1, troll2, ...
... Thankless: MaybeMe2 (Yesterday), ...
heh
Thanks from:
... Thanks: BiggestAssKisserHere (5 seconds ago)
... No Thanks: Fugetmenot, troll1, troll2, ...
... Thankless: MaybeMe2 (Yesterday), ...
heh
rudeigineile
22nd November 2012, 08:59 AM
Let's spell "dislike" as "no thanks" and add a "No Thanks" button.
I'd prefer "booooo!" and for that matter thanks could be "Yay"
I'd prefer "booooo!" and for that matter thanks could be "Yay"
charlou
22nd November 2012, 09:39 PM
Let's spell "dislike" as "no thanks" and add a "No Thanks" button.
I'd prefer "booooo!" and for that matter thanks could be "Yay"
:D Oh yes, I like. Seriously, let's do this.
I'd prefer "booooo!" and for that matter thanks could be "Yay"
:D Oh yes, I like. Seriously, let's do this.
oblivion
22nd November 2012, 09:43 PM
I probably won't have time to look into this much before December. There isn't an add-on that does a "dislike" type function, so it kinda depends on if I can convince myself that I can successfully code it from semi-scratch by copying/modifying the "thanks" add-on code, database changes, template changes etc.
changing thanks to "yay" won't be too difficult once I have time to work on it.
changing thanks to "yay" won't be too difficult once I have time to work on it.
Gonzo
22nd November 2012, 10:41 PM
"yay" and "nay" and we would be quite like sirs
rudeigineile
23rd November 2012, 02:21 PM
"yay" and "nay" and we would be quite like sirs
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/103/boooc.png
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/103/boooc.png
gib
23rd November 2012, 04:54 PM
..or Essex.
boooo!
boooo!
Jerome
4th December 2012, 02:20 AM
I don't like it, the icon and the tally is cumbersome on the page.
MSG
5th January 2013, 06:27 AM
Let's spell "dislike" as "no thanks" and add a "No Thanks" button.
I'd prefer "booooo!" and for that matter thanks could be "Yay"
:D Oh yes, I like. Seriously, let's do this.
I probably won't have time to look into this much before December. There isn't an add-on that does a "dislike" type function, so it kinda depends on if I can convince myself that I can successfully code it from semi-scratch by copying/modifying the "thanks" add-on code, database changes, template changes etc.
changing thanks to "yay" won't be too difficult once I have time to work on it.
bump, now that oblivion has finished pandering to supernaut's whims re a tropical skin at TR
I'd prefer "booooo!" and for that matter thanks could be "Yay"
:D Oh yes, I like. Seriously, let's do this.
I probably won't have time to look into this much before December. There isn't an add-on that does a "dislike" type function, so it kinda depends on if I can convince myself that I can successfully code it from semi-scratch by copying/modifying the "thanks" add-on code, database changes, template changes etc.
changing thanks to "yay" won't be too difficult once I have time to work on it.
bump, now that oblivion has finished pandering to supernaut's whims re a tropical skin at TR
oblivion
5th January 2013, 07:27 AM
Inshallah
rudeigineile
5th January 2013, 11:32 AM
Let's spell "dislike" as "no thanks" and add a "No Thanks" button.
I'd prefer "booooo!" and for that matter thanks could be "Yay"
:D Oh yes, I like. Seriously, let's do this.
I probably won't have time to look into this much before December. There isn't an add-on that does a "dislike" type function, so it kinda depends on if I can convince myself that I can successfully code it from semi-scratch by copying/modifying the "thanks" add-on code, database changes, template changes etc.
changing thanks to "yay" won't be too difficult once I have time to work on it.
bump, now that oblivion has finished pandering to supernaut's whims re a tropical skin at TR
:no:
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4181/tropirat.png
I'd prefer "booooo!" and for that matter thanks could be "Yay"
:D Oh yes, I like. Seriously, let's do this.
I probably won't have time to look into this much before December. There isn't an add-on that does a "dislike" type function, so it kinda depends on if I can convince myself that I can successfully code it from semi-scratch by copying/modifying the "thanks" add-on code, database changes, template changes etc.
changing thanks to "yay" won't be too difficult once I have time to work on it.
bump, now that oblivion has finished pandering to supernaut's whims re a tropical skin at TR
:no:
http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4181/tropirat.png
borealis
5th January 2013, 05:48 PM
I love that there is now a 'remove your yay' option.
Of course, first you must yay, but then, there it is!
Of course, first you must yay, but then, there it is!
Adenosine
6th January 2013, 03:46 AM
Oops, admin abuse. I saw a button saying remove all yay so I clicked it. And now all borealis' yays from the last post are gone.
I have the power!
I have the power!
borealis
6th January 2013, 03:54 AM
:whyyou:
I shall have your character attacked by the giant slugs!
I shall have your character attacked by the giant slugs!
Adenosine
6th January 2013, 04:01 AM
That's not very nice. I really should catch up in DASN to see how serious these slugs are.
Magicziggy
6th January 2013, 05:25 AM
Is it really a yay option now? That's cool. Must log on with my laptop.
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