MindRomp Mafia - Day 1 page 3

Cpt. Gender Injustice
18th January 2012, 09:07 AM
Luckily, I planted proof of my Towniness in my opening post. Scum won't be able to see it, but Town will. I'm cleared.

You're completely bonkers.

:nada:
Cpt. Gender Injustice
18th January 2012, 09:13 AM
Zigmen is tempting .. his self serving lack of pro-town rationale for his gameplay and his passive aggression ... Isn't that often town Zigmen? Fuck knows I've been spectacularly wrong about thinking he was scum before. Call that hedging if you like, I'm just interested in lynching scum.

lynching scum day 1 is pretty hard, that's why we usually settle for distractions and liabilities.
Cpt. Gender Injustice
18th January 2012, 09:21 AM
nostrum go ahead and kill Deanm at least he's claiming vanilla.

or if you plan to go for bolero or other options, announce it and give them time to come out. make sure they're not offline too.
nostrum
18th January 2012, 09:24 AM
nostrum go ahead and kill Deanm at least he's claiming vanilla.

or if you plan to go for bolero or other options, announce it and give them time to come out. make sure they're not offline too.

Know what? I'd like to go on the odds zigmen was deliberately trying to out a special (and he netted me.)

Zigmen: this is your fault.

Kill Zigmen
oblivion
18th January 2012, 09:28 AM
nostrum go ahead and kill Deanm at least he's claiming vanilla.

or if you plan to go for bolero or other options, announce it and give them time to come out. make sure they're not offline too.

Know what? I'd like to go on the odds zigmen was deliberately trying to out a special (and he netted me.)

Zigmen: this is your fault.

Kill Zigmen

Nostrum kills Zigmen

Zigmen was vanilla town.

Nightfall is in approximately 3.5 hours.
Adenosine
18th January 2012, 09:31 AM
nostrum

'k.

bolero
oblivion
18th January 2012, 09:37 AM
Updating the lynch vote count:

Bolero - 4
Gonzo - 2
Jerome - 2
MZ - 1
gib - 1
Nostrum - 1

If you had a vote on Zigmen, I've deleted that vote and have you down for no vote at this time.
Feck
18th January 2012, 09:46 AM
Well I've read as far as UT's kind comments . So only a bit more to read later ,My thoughts so far Zigs, little role PM game is too shallow for a scum special hunting ploy so I'd not have him on my scum list .
And Gonzo I do not trust . He is sneaky and brazen enough to fake this whole lover/sister/mother (is it a redneck thing ? ) and he needs to investigated . i've been fooled before by Gonzo fake claiming early on in game before this one seems doubly sneaky because it implicates another player .
I'd like Diva's thoughts on this .
Nightson
18th January 2012, 10:01 AM
You should absolutely kill someone today, it clears you. If it gets town an extra kill it's even more useful.

What's your suspect list at the moment?

I did strongly suspect zigmen, but I can't decide if he's scheming scum or goose town. Cheap ploy either way that he used, IMO.

I haven't liked gib's participation... he FoS'd me, then asked diva who she'd lynch, and he seemed OK with EVERY single one she'd listed. Although, she didn't list me and then he seemed to drop it. But so many others see town in him, so I don't know.

I could actually buy that adenosine waded in with his BS vote on me (which would mean zigmen is town) because he's scum and he knows I trolley track on him and he wanted to get in first with the suspicion, but I'm not getting a real scum vibe off him.

Borealis could be a possibility.

I could kill no-one, but then I'm not cleared and scum will just want to kill me (or maybe not, if they are confident I'm going to kill a townie they might wait until I'm cleared town).

Argh, I was going to just sit back until I felt sure about someone, then just kill them in the thread, with the secondary benefit of clearing myself as town and also becoming vanilla.

I have a job interview tomorrow morning, so I'm a bit distracted. I need input. I'll accept it from those I consider town.

The first half of this post was written before Nostrum put in her kill, in the interests of sleep I decided not to mess with it.

I think zigmen is probably town, he just seems too sure it was going to clear him, which seems less likely if he had gotten it in the scum PM. It could have been a devious machination to out specials, and since it's zigmen I'm accounting that as an actual possibility, but I still think the balance weighs town.

You also have seemed overly defensive and OMGUSing today Nostrum and pretty off from my view of things in general, I was pretty unsure of your alignment before you claimed.

Gonzo is just a fucked up situation and I sort of want to lynch him just to try and discourage him from doing crap like this, but I think the chances of him being town are decent enough to hold off.

I think Uselesstwit and Adenosine have been sort of scummy, UT more. UT I'm not sure of because I feel I haven't played enough with them, adenosine I'm unsure of because if he's scum he's vastly improved his flailing level.

Elouise's views have seemed really off to me, which isn't incompatible with her town game but is keeping her in the unsure category for now.

I have Magicziggy leaning town because he blew off a question I asked him with "because, that's why" whereas I think scum would have gone with a fake rationale.

I feel like bolero is a case of "Acting weird and so it gets them lynched even though they're town"

Also, I had a kickass Nostrum-Athene-Adenosine scum team thing I was kicking around in my head which Nostrum just blew out of the water, and with that gone I think I lean town on Athene.

Gib and diva both seem townish.

Anyone not mentioned in this post is part of the big chunk of people that I currently have no read on.
Nightson
18th January 2012, 10:10 AM
Updating the lynch vote count:

Bolero - 4
Gonzo - 2
Jerome - 2
MZ - 1
gib - 1
Nostrum - 1

If you had a vote on Zigmen, I've deleted that vote and have you down for no vote at this time.

Mine differs

Bolero (4) - magicziggy, borealis, Amok, adenosine
Gonzo (2) - Jerome, Daphne Girl
Jerome (1) - CGI
gib (1) - Bolero
magicziggy (1) - Uselesstwit
Uselesstwit (1) - Nightson

You missed my vote on UT, zigmen was the only person I had on nostrum after adenosine unvoted though that might be a crosspost, and I only counted one vote on Jerome currently
Feck
18th January 2012, 10:34 AM
Ok that was messy Are we going to have night chat Oblivion ? or will it be possible to sleep ? also cross posting is going to be a hassle (v-bulletin >:[)
charlou
18th January 2012, 10:37 AM
aye, can we install a cross post thingy?
charlou
18th January 2012, 10:41 AM
Actually, the cross post thingy can be a pita when there's a flurry of posting activity, trying to get a word in. pros and cons either way.
gib
18th January 2012, 10:42 AM
catching up, any reason not to lynch gonzo?
Feck
18th January 2012, 10:43 AM
catching up, any reason not to lynch gonzo?


Yes it could kill Diva as well ?
Adenosine
18th January 2012, 10:55 AM
Let's not kill Gonzo. We can work out what he is later.
gib
18th January 2012, 11:19 AM
fair enough

nostrum, good call on removing zigmen

ok so who's gonna be about from now till nightfall?
Feck
18th January 2012, 11:23 AM
I'm around Gib
Facetious
18th January 2012, 11:24 AM
useless twig
Facetious
18th January 2012, 11:26 AM
fair enough

nostrum, good call on removing zigmen

ok so who's gonna be about from now till nightfall?ohi
I wont be, just catching up and putting a new vote down.
Feck
18th January 2012, 11:26 AM
Any reason to vote UT rather than Bolero ?
gib
18th January 2012, 11:29 AM
what's the case against bolero?
Feck
18th January 2012, 11:32 AM
I can't see a reason to vote Bolero
Bolero
18th January 2012, 11:32 AM
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sorry, jerome. I have schoolwork for all night. I am voting for you because you are always a good choice for a Day One lynch, period.

And I have good reason to believe divagreen is town because of information I received in my PM.

What happened to never ever outing anything again?????

I gotta wonder if it was necessary to out this on D1. I understand someone wanting to save themselves, but if this is a town-helpful bit of info, it should've been kept quiet as long as possible.

Gonzo, are you town?

:sadyes:

Then you're a bonehead. How on earth do you think just casually mentioning you weren't vanilla and had role information that Diva was town wouldn't turn into a huge distraction? How did you think revealing this information of day one would be the most helpful day to reveal it on?

Yes, I agree.

Here's your homework, Daphne. (http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page)

I will take a look at this.

which role are you Gonzo?

Luckily, I planted proof of my Towniness in my opening post. Scum won't be able to see it, but Town will. I'm cleared.

I didn't see it. Had no idea - went straight over my head. More to the point, oblivion is a very experienced GM, and has a habit of wording role PMs subtly differently, even for VT. This is a ridiculous claim of yours. If you're scum, it's wifom. If you're town, it's pointless cryptic meta-gaming.

UT, elouise, if you could lynch someone right now, who would it be?

right this second, gib or aden, but i really don't feel sure about it.

I'm getting bad vibes off gib.

Do you think zigmen is a goose who played a stupid cheap ploy that helped town not one little bit and was just a me-me-me thoughtless act, or do you think he's scum who got the vanilla PM and it's a deliberate ploy to tease out non-vanilla town?

Do you think I should out?

I might have missed it, but isn't this the first time any mention is made of you "outing", nostrum? Up till this point, I had no idea you had anything to "out"...did I just not read carefully enough?

feck looks like feck, crap participation and no help.

That's pretty harsh .. You make it seem typical, but I don't think it is.

I've got no impression of feck's alignment with the little he's posted so far.

Actually, I kind of agree with Elouise on this one. Feck is usually taciturn, but not THIS much.

You should absolutely kill someone today, it clears you. If it gets town an extra kill it's even more useful.

What's your suspect list at the moment?

I did strongly suspect zigmen, but I can't decide if he's scheming scum or goose town. Cheap ploy either way that he used, IMO.

I haven't liked gib's participation... he FoS'd me, then asked diva who she'd lynch, and he seemed OK with EVERY single one she'd listed. Although, she didn't list me and then he seemed to drop it. But so many others see town in him, so I don't know.

I could actually buy that adenosine waded in with his BS vote on me (which would mean zigmen is town) because he's scum and he knows I trolley track on him and he wanted to get in first with the suspicion, but I'm not getting a real scum vibe off him.

Borealis could be a possibility.

I could kill no-one, but then I'm not cleared and scum will just want to kill me (or maybe not, if they are confident I'm going to kill a townie they might wait until I'm cleared town).

Argh, I was going to just sit back until I felt sure about someone, then just kill them in the thread, with the secondary benefit of clearing myself as town and also becoming vanilla.

I have a job interview tomorrow morning, so I'm a bit distracted. I need input. I'll accept it from those I consider town.
re the bit I've bolded: I think you mean bolero? :]

I think we might lynch bolero? I would not have a problem with you hitting Zigmen.

Why me? What possible reason could you have?
Adenosine
18th January 2012, 11:32 AM
fair enough

nostrum, good call on removing zigmen

ok so who's gonna be about from now till nightfall?

That's a weird thing to say. Before Zigmen was killed, yes, I can see the justification, but after his cardflip, no, that doesn't make sense. With perfect hindsight it was a bad call to remove Zigmen.
Adenosine
18th January 2012, 11:35 AM
Double vote on Bolero.
nostrum
18th January 2012, 11:36 AM
I'm around. Don't want to lynch bolero or UT.

What about Borealis?
Bolero
18th January 2012, 11:37 AM
what's the case against bolero?

I can't see a reason to vote Bolero

I would also like to know this.

I suppose the Zigmen kill clears nostrum, then. Is it worth going for her for mayor? Or will that make her a scum target?
gib
18th January 2012, 11:37 AM
i disagree, scum would have used Zigmen as a distraction for as long as he was alive
gib
18th January 2012, 11:38 AM
I'm around. Don't want to lynch bolero or UT.

What about Borealis?

did we ever get an answer to that thing where she fossed Athene then said it wasn't a fos. right now that's the most objectively scummy thing i recall, if we set aside gonzo
gib
18th January 2012, 11:39 AM
what's the case against bolero?

I can't see a reason to vote Bolero

I would also like to know this.

I suppose the Zigmen kill clears nostrum, then. Is it worth going for her for mayor? Or will that make her a scum target?

unless ob invented a scum one shot role then nostrum is cleared but essentially vanilla now.
gib
18th January 2012, 11:41 AM
Updating the lynch vote count:

Bolero - 4
Gonzo - 2
Jerome - 2
MZ - 1
gib - 1
Nostrum - 1

If you had a vote on Zigmen, I've deleted that vote and have you down for no vote at this time.

Mine differs

Bolero (4) - magicziggy, borealis, Amok, adenosine
Gonzo (2) - Jerome, Daphne Girl
Jerome (1) - CGI
gib (1) - Bolero
magicziggy (1) - Uselesstwit
Uselesstwit (1) - Nightson

You missed my vote on UT, zigmen was the only person I had on nostrum after adenosine unvoted though that might be a crosspost, and I only counted one vote on Jerome currently

this was the last votecount, contested by Nightson

since then Athene has voted UT
nostrum
18th January 2012, 11:42 AM
I'm around. Don't want to lynch bolero or UT.

What about Borealis?

did we ever get an answer to that thing where she fossed Athene then said it wasn't a fos. right now that's the most objectively scummy thing i recall, if we set aside gonzo

No we didn't AFAIK.
gib
18th January 2012, 11:42 AM
recap of why people are voting bolero would be useful
nostrum
18th January 2012, 11:43 AM
borealis
gib
18th January 2012, 11:44 AM
I'm around. Don't want to lynch bolero or UT.

What about Borealis?

did we ever get an answer to that thing where she fossed Athene then said it wasn't a fos. right now that's the most objectively scummy thing i recall, if we set aside gonzo

No we didn't AFAIK.

looks a decent lynch then

if you and i agree on this then maybe we can get some more takers

borealis
gib
18th January 2012, 11:44 AM
xpost awesome

btw seriously nostrum when you reread try to recalibrate on me
nostrum
18th January 2012, 11:44 AM
recap of why people are voting bolero would be useful

Yeah. The day timing confusion is to be expected from someone used to 12hr days, and the vote flip flop is very townish to me.
nostrum
18th January 2012, 11:46 AM
xpost awesome

btw seriously nostrum when you reread try to recalibrate on me

I already have. I thought you were too agreeable on diva's suspects. But apart from bolero no one else saw it.
Bolero
18th January 2012, 11:46 AM
FUCK! I keep posting without it showing up!
recap of why people are voting bolero would be useful
I want to know the answer to this, too. People are voting for me without reason. There is at least one scum on the BW, that's for goddamn sure.
nostrum
18th January 2012, 11:48 AM
Amok has been weird, too.
Feck
18th January 2012, 11:52 AM
You are getting the Meta wrong on me not posting much .

Well it turns out zigmen was a goose ..now who thought it would be a good idea to day-kill him ? Is having a day kill proof of towndom ?
Bolero
18th January 2012, 11:53 AM
Sorry, I posted this in the wrong thread (although, I am still having trouble with losing posts):


"Look, can I suggest that you all look closely at the people BW-ing me as a lynch choice. If I'm lynched, I'll flip town, and my lynch will have been advocated by at least one scum. No-one's provided any good reason for it anyway, so it's fucking sus as"

And I am taking back my mayor vote on elouise. Just not getting a good read on her at all.

elouise
nostrum

It may be pointless to vote for nostrum now that she's cleared, but she's the safest bet we've got.
Magicziggy
18th January 2012, 11:54 AM
You are getting the Meta wrong on me not posting much .

Well it turns out zigmen was a goose ..now who thought it would be a good idea to day-kill him ? Is having a day kill proof of towndom ?

No, I don't think so.
I'm liking gib for raising this as well.
charlou
18th January 2012, 11:55 AM
Luckily, I planted proof of my Towniness in my opening post. Scum won't be able to see it, but Town will. I'm cleared.

More to the point, oblivion is a very experienced GM, and has a habit of wording role PMs subtly differently, even for VT. This is a ridiculous claim of yours. If you're scum, it's wifom. If you're town, it's pointless cryptic meta-gaming.
Actually, my experience of oblivion's games is that she often sends out identical VT PMs and may post it in the peanut gallery. I'm not sure how often she posts it on the scum writeboard, but Nightson posted a couple of examples.


You should absolutely kill someone today, it clears you. If it gets town an extra kill it's even more useful.

What's your suspect list at the moment?

I did strongly suspect zigmen, but I can't decide if he's scheming scum or goose town. Cheap ploy either way that he used, IMO.

I haven't liked gib's participation... he FoS'd me, then asked diva who she'd lynch, and he seemed OK with EVERY single one she'd listed. Although, she didn't list me and then he seemed to drop it. But so many others see town in him, so I don't know.

I could actually buy that adenosine waded in with his BS vote on me (which would mean zigmen is town) because he's scum and he knows I trolley track on him and he wanted to get in first with the suspicion, but I'm not getting a real scum vibe off him.

Borealis could be a possibility.

I could kill no-one, but then I'm not cleared and scum will just want to kill me (or maybe not, if they are confident I'm going to kill a townie they might wait until I'm cleared town).

Argh, I was going to just sit back until I felt sure about someone, then just kill them in the thread, with the secondary benefit of clearing myself as town and also becoming vanilla.

I have a job interview tomorrow morning, so I'm a bit distracted. I need input. I'll accept it from those I consider town.
re the bit I've bolded: I think you mean bolero? :]

I think we might lynch bolero? I would not have a problem with you hitting Zigmen.

Why me? What possible reason could you have?
I need to go back and reread your posts to recapture and explain why. Will do that now. It may turn out that I change my mind .. it wouldn't be the first time I've done so on a reread.
gib
18th January 2012, 11:56 AM
You are getting the Meta wrong on me not posting much .

Well it turns out zigmen was a goose ..now who thought it would be a good idea to day-kill him ? Is having a day kill proof of towndom ?

always has been in the past
gib
18th January 2012, 11:57 AM
You are getting the Meta wrong on me not posting much .

Well it turns out zigmen was a goose ..now who thought it would be a good idea to day-kill him ? Is having a day kill proof of towndom ?

No, I don't think so.
I'm liking gib for raising this as well.

i'd put nostrum at 90% cleared, could be some weird role ob invented for this game but the odds have to be strongly against it
Bolero
18th January 2012, 11:57 AM
You are getting the Meta wrong on me not posting much .

Well it turns out zigmen was a goose ..now who thought it would be a good idea to day-kill him ? Is having a day kill proof of towndom ?

Ah. Good point. IMO, it makes her a scum target, though. Even if she's indie.
Feck
18th January 2012, 11:58 AM
You are getting the Meta wrong on me not posting much .

Well it turns out zigmen was a goose ..now who thought it would be a good idea to day-kill him ? Is having a day kill proof of towndom ?

always has been in the past
OK well my Mayor vote is in the right place then :]
Magicziggy
18th January 2012, 12:01 PM
I'm liking gib, diva and nostrum, their posts/votes pretty much mirrored my thinking.
Haha! Exactly the opposite of what I thought! :hehe:

Oh well, maybe I'm shit at this after all... if you're town, you're a more valuable player than me, Athene.

This post pinged most for me.
I initially voted Bolero as a random... but her posting has left me with the distinct feeling she is scum. It's gut feeling. If anyone has any more than gut feeling ... show. I also had the gut feeling zigmen was town.
Bolero
18th January 2012, 12:02 PM
Actually, my experience of oblivion's games is that she often sends out identical VT PMs and may post it in the peanut gallery. I'm not sure how often she posts it on the scum writeboard, but Nightson posted a couple of examples.


Often, but not always. I can recall people saying...maybe the elfquest game?... that she sometimes words the PMs differently.

TBH, that doesn't concern me as much as the fact that Zigmen's "clue" was WAY too obscure. I got what he meant after he explained it, but prior to that had no idea it was even a "clue". Regardless, he's dead now, so it's just a distraction.
charlou
18th January 2012, 12:03 PM
Athene and Nightson, why are your votes on UT?
Bolero
18th January 2012, 12:04 PM
I'm liking gib, diva and nostrum, their posts/votes pretty much mirrored my thinking.
Haha! Exactly the opposite of what I thought! :hehe:

Oh well, maybe I'm shit at this after all... if you're town, you're a more valuable player than me, Athene.

This post pinged most for me.
I initially voted Bolero as a random... but her posting has left me with the distinct feeling she is scum. It's gut feeling. If anyone has any more than gut feeling ... show. I also had the gut feeling zigmen was town.

Your gut is wrong about me. Simple as that.

Athene IS a more valuable player than me. It's a fact. I am not as experienced or good with the scum-hunting.
gib
18th January 2012, 12:08 PM
I'm liking gib, diva and nostrum, their posts/votes pretty much mirrored my thinking.
Haha! Exactly the opposite of what I thought! :hehe:

Oh well, maybe I'm shit at this after all... if you're town, you're a more valuable player than me, Athene.

This post pinged most for me.
I initially voted Bolero as a random... but her posting has left me with the distinct feeling she is scum. It's gut feeling. If anyone has any more than gut feeling ... show. I also had the gut feeling zigmen was town.

didn't you recently state that you trusted your day1 town reads way more than your day1 scum reads?
gib
18th January 2012, 12:09 PM
does anyone have any reason to think borealis is town?
Feck
18th January 2012, 12:12 PM
does anyone have any reason to think borealis is town?

Seems too lost to have teammates .
Adenosine
18th January 2012, 12:12 PM
I'm liking gib, diva and nostrum, their posts/votes pretty much mirrored my thinking.
Haha! Exactly the opposite of what I thought! :hehe:

Oh well, maybe I'm shit at this after all... if you're town, you're a more valuable player than me, Athene.

This post pinged most for me.
I initially voted Bolero as a random... but her posting has left me with the distinct feeling she is scum. It's gut feeling. If anyone has any more than gut feeling ... show. I also had the gut feeling zigmen was town.

I agree. There's been a succession of soft pings that have culminated in a scummy feeling.


Actually, my experience of oblivion's games is that she often sends out identical VT PMs and may post it in the peanut gallery. I'm not sure how often she posts it on the scum writeboard, but Nightson posted a couple of examples.


Often, but not always. I can recall people saying...maybe the elfquest game?... that she sometimes words the PMs differently.

TBH, that doesn't concern me as much as the fact that Zigmen's "clue" was WAY too obscure. I got what he meant after he explained it, but prior to that had no idea it was even a "clue". Regardless, he's dead now, so it's just a distraction.

To me there was nothing obscure about it. And I understood why he did it. He was over being the default lynch when town was stuck.
Feck
18th January 2012, 12:15 PM
OK Bolero
oblivion
18th January 2012, 12:16 PM
Updating the lynch vote count:

Bolero - 4
Gonzo - 2
Jerome - 2
MZ - 1
gib - 1
Nostrum - 1

If you had a vote on Zigmen, I've deleted that vote and have you down for no vote at this time.

Mine differs

Bolero (4) - magicziggy, borealis, Amok, adenosine
Gonzo (2) - Jerome, Daphne Girl
Jerome (1) - CGI
gib (1) - Bolero
magicziggy (1) - Uselesstwit
Uselesstwit (1) - Nightson

You missed my vote on UT, zigmen was the only person I had on nostrum after adenosine unvoted though that might be a crosspost, and I only counted one vote on Jerome currently
I am getting ready to post a new tally.

The adenosene unvote was a crosspost, and I did miss your vote on UT.

I have two votes on Jerome - CGI and Gonzo. Will check to see if Gonzo changed his vote and I missed it.
Magicziggy
18th January 2012, 12:17 PM
I'm liking gib, diva and nostrum, their posts/votes pretty much mirrored my thinking.
Haha! Exactly the opposite of what I thought! :hehe:

Oh well, maybe I'm shit at this after all... if you're town, you're a more valuable player than me, Athene.

This post pinged most for me.
I initially voted Bolero as a random... but her posting has left me with the distinct feeling she is scum. It's gut feeling. If anyone has any more than gut feeling ... show. I also had the gut feeling zigmen was town.

didn't you recently state that you trusted your day1 town reads way more than your day1 scum reads?

Yes..so?
Bolero
18th January 2012, 12:20 PM
Look, it seems the BW is on me, which is weird, because "soft pings" and "gut feelings" seem to be all anyone has...although it's D1, so I guess that's normal?

Just keep an eye on who's voting for me, and take notes. It'll come in handy once I flip town, I promise (I'm thinking, the people who got the whole thing going, like Elouise or MZ).

Gotta go to bed now. Too many late nights this week.

Have fun.
charlou
18th January 2012, 12:23 PM
Reread your posts, bolero ... a heap of fluff/filler posts to begin with ... some questions and comments about voting and mechanics ... After that you settled into gameplay. Your vote switching when you thought the gameday was almost over then learned it wasn't was a clanger, but your subsequent explanation seems sincere (although I do have in mind how good you are at playing innocent and gormless when it suits ;) ).

I note Feck has voted you just now after saying he doesn't see why you're the lynch candidate.

Why's that Feck?
charlou
18th January 2012, 12:24 PM
How much time left in the day, ob?
gib
18th January 2012, 12:25 PM
How much time left in the day, ob?

34 mins
oblivion
18th January 2012, 12:27 PM
I did not find an unvote by gonzo, so it is 2 on Jerome.

Here's my current count. Let me know if you see any problems with it.

bolero - 5
uselesstwit - 2
Gonzo - 2
Jerome - 2
MZ - 1
gib - 1
Nostrum - 1
oblivion
18th January 2012, 12:28 PM
How much time left in the day, ob?

32 minutes.
gib
18th January 2012, 12:28 PM
I'm liking gib, diva and nostrum, their posts/votes pretty much mirrored my thinking.
Haha! Exactly the opposite of what I thought! :hehe:

Oh well, maybe I'm shit at this after all... if you're town, you're a more valuable player than me, Athene.

This post pinged most for me.
I initially voted Bolero as a random... but her posting has left me with the distinct feeling she is scum. It's gut feeling. If anyone has any more than gut feeling ... show. I also had the gut feeling zigmen was town.

didn't you recently state that you trusted your day1 town reads way more than your day1 scum reads?

Yes..so?

so your gut allegedly being proven right on zigmen is no way to calibrate your gut on bolero, pretty fucking obvious really
gib
18th January 2012, 12:29 PM
I did not find an unvote by gonzo, so it is 2 on Jerome.

Here's my current count. Let me know if you see any problems with it.

bolero - 5
uselesstwit - 2
Gonzo - 2
Jerome - 2
MZ - 1
gib - 1
Nostrum - 1

nostrum and i voted borealis for a start
oblivion
18th January 2012, 12:30 PM
I did not find an unvote by gonzo, so it is 2 on Jerome.

Here's my current count. Let me know if you see any problems with it.

bolero - 5
uselesstwit - 2
Gonzo - 2
Jerome - 2
MZ - 1
gib - 1
Nostrum - 1

nostrum and i voted borealis for a start

ah, sorry. I recorded that, but my tally didn't pick it up. Correct count is:

bolero - 5
uselesstwit - 2
Gonzo - 2
Jerome - 2
borealis - 2
MZ - 1
gib - 1
Nostrum - 1
Magicziggy
18th January 2012, 12:33 PM
I'm liking gib, diva and nostrum, their posts/votes pretty much mirrored my thinking.
Haha! Exactly the opposite of what I thought! :hehe:

Oh well, maybe I'm shit at this after all... if you're town, you're a more valuable player than me, Athene.

This post pinged most for me.
I initially voted Bolero as a random... but her posting has left me with the distinct feeling she is scum. It's gut feeling. If anyone has any more than gut feeling ... show. I also had the gut feeling zigmen was town.

didn't you recently state that you trusted your day1 town reads way more than your day1 scum reads?

Yes..so?

so your gut allegedly being proven right on zigmen is no way to calibrate your gut on bolero, pretty fucking obvious really

What's your point exactly? My scum reads were fairly good in the last game I played. I am getting more confident in them.
charlou
18th January 2012, 12:35 PM
Okay, I'm going with feck
gib
18th January 2012, 12:38 PM
Haha! Exactly the opposite of what I thought! :hehe:

Oh well, maybe I'm shit at this after all... if you're town, you're a more valuable player than me, Athene.

This post pinged most for me.
I initially voted Bolero as a random... but her posting has left me with the distinct feeling she is scum. It's gut feeling. If anyone has any more than gut feeling ... show. I also had the gut feeling zigmen was town.

didn't you recently state that you trusted your day1 town reads way more than your day1 scum reads?

Yes..so?

so your gut allegedly being proven right on zigmen is no way to calibrate your gut on bolero, pretty fucking obvious really

What's your point exactly? My scum reads were fairly good in the last game I played. I am getting more confident in them.

my point - i'm not convinced bolero is scum and i think your case is flimsy at best. But it's nice to see you finally getting some aggression going :thumbsup:
gib
18th January 2012, 12:39 PM
Reread your posts, bolero ... a heap of fluff/filler posts to begin with ... some questions and comments about voting and mechanics ... After that you settled into gameplay. Your vote switching when you thought the gameday was almost over then learned it wasn't was a clanger, but your subsequent explanation seems sincere (although I do have in mind how good you are at playing innocent and gormless when it suits ;) ).

I note Feck has voted you just now after saying he doesn't see why you're the lynch candidate.

Why's that Feck?

i don't want this to get lost, feck needs to answer
divagreen
18th January 2012, 12:39 PM
Amok has been weird, too.

I am glad somebody else is seeing this.
divagreen
18th January 2012, 12:40 PM
I have 20 minutes to lay down a vote.
Feck
18th January 2012, 12:42 PM
Reread your posts, bolero ... a heap of fluff/filler posts to begin with ... some questions and comments about voting and mechanics ... After that you settled into gameplay. Your vote switching when you thought the gameday was almost over then learned it wasn't was a clanger, but your subsequent explanation seems sincere (although I do have in mind how good you are at playing innocent and gormless when it suits ;) ).

I note Feck has voted you just now after saying he doesn't see why you're the lynch candidate.

Why's that Feck?

Erm you convinced me also voting for anyone else would basically be a no- vote .
gib
18th January 2012, 12:42 PM
I have 20 minutes to lay down a vote.

last count was

bolero - 5
uselesstwit - 2
Gonzo - 2
Jerome - 2
borealis - 2
MZ - 1
gib - 1
Nostrum - 1

plus a vote for feck from elouise

looking like a bolero lynch basically
divagreen
18th January 2012, 12:46 PM
Jerome
Feck
18th January 2012, 12:46 PM
so anyone have a good reason why we should get someone else Lynched rather than Bolero ,I'm still Meh about a Bolero vote .
gib
18th January 2012, 12:49 PM
borealis

jerome

that's 3 on jerome
gib
18th January 2012, 12:49 PM
sorry that's 4 on jerome
gib
18th January 2012, 12:49 PM
one more on jerome and he gets it
charlou
18th January 2012, 12:51 PM
Erm you convinced me
How so?
gib
18th January 2012, 12:52 PM
someone hammer jerome pls tia
Feck
18th January 2012, 12:55 PM
Really ? Gib RU sure ?
Magicziggy
18th January 2012, 12:56 PM
The other thing that bothers me about bolero is that she was quite happy to save herself when she thought time was up, at someone else's expense.

She hasn't claimed, so at best she must be vanilla town, and yet she was prepared to see another go down seemingly quite randomly ... just picked the next highest vote tally

That really bothers me
gib
18th January 2012, 12:56 PM
Really ? Gib RU sure ?

nope but he's no great loss
Feck
18th January 2012, 12:57 PM
Jerome
gib
18th January 2012, 12:57 PM
The other thing that bothers me about bolero is that she was quite happy to save herself when she thought time was up, at someone else's expense.

She hasn't claimed, so at best she must be vanilla town, and yet she was prepared to see another go down seemingly quite randomly ... just picked the next highest vote tally

That really bothers me

fair point
Feck
18th January 2012, 12:57 PM
and### unvote borealis###
gib
18th January 2012, 12:58 PM
Jerome

5.5 on jerome
divagreen
18th January 2012, 12:58 PM
Bolero you better be town and you better start kicking some serious ass in this game.
divagreen
18th January 2012, 12:59 PM
The other thing that bothers me about bolero is that she was quite happy to save herself when she thought time was up, at someone else's expense.

She hasn't claimed, so at best she must be vanilla town, and yet she was prepared to see another go down seemingly quite randomly ... just picked the next highest vote tally

That really bothers me

It bothers me too, but tbh I used to think like this too until Jasona and Teeth at TR beat it out of me.
divagreen
18th January 2012, 01:01 PM
^ that is why I am giving her the benefit of the doubt. I would think if she were scum they would be reigning her in.
gib
18th January 2012, 01:01 PM
is there night chat?
oblivion
18th January 2012, 01:01 PM
NIGHTFALL!
Magicziggy
18th January 2012, 01:02 PM
^ that is why I am giving her the benefit of the doubt. I would think if she were scum they would be reigning her in.

hmmm... case for the prosecution closed.

Jerome ... looks like you
oblivion
18th January 2012, 01:03 PM
You circle around one player after another, squinting suspicously, before settling on Jerome and stringing him up upon the nearest streetlamp.

Jerome was scum.

Night actions are due in approx 11 hours.

No night chat.

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