This may be a stupid question... page 1
divagreen
16th January 2012, 08:22 PM
...but who are the admins on this site?
I can't find where it is clearly outlined. :??:
I can't find where it is clearly outlined. :??:
Gonzo
16th January 2012, 08:24 PM
Elouise and oblivion (maybe Adenosine?) have admin-status, but their decisions are supposed to be mostly controlled by the membership, I think.
Gonzo
16th January 2012, 08:25 PM
Good fucking question, though, I'd like to know myself.
Adenosine
16th January 2012, 08:28 PM
Does it matter?
oblivion
16th January 2012, 08:30 PM
click the "forum leaders" link on the index page below the forum list. that is a list of the admins. I see my role more as code monkey than anything. and question-asker. that, too. elouise, cunt (via his admin sock), Magicziggy, Ade, Nostrum (though I think she mostly considers herself the smilie czar), and I all have access to the admin panel and the mod buttons. Elouise and I also have access to the server.
Gonzo
16th January 2012, 08:30 PM
Does it matter?
:stare:
Yeah. It really does.
:stare:
Yeah. It really does.
Gonzo
16th January 2012, 08:33 PM
I am now doubting Adenosine's ability to be an admin, srsly. XD
Way to be helpful and administrative, dude.
Way to be helpful and administrative, dude.
Adenosine
16th January 2012, 08:35 PM
Hmm, okay. I have admin status but I feel the position is more of a slave to the forum than a leader. I can fuck around in the ACP like creating forums, installing Mafia codes etc. but I don't feel the power is a privilege iykwim?
Out here I am just another voice and I like it like that.
Out here I am just another voice and I like it like that.
Gonzo
16th January 2012, 08:36 PM
If you feel that way then serve the fucking servants, man. Don't be a condescending jerk.
Adenosine
16th January 2012, 08:40 PM
I am now doubting Adenosine's ability to be an admin, srsly. XD
Way to be helpful and administrative, dude.
If you are serious about that then you should read the core values again. All admins do is clean up after spam and illegal content. We're janitors. Is it important to know who the janitors are?
Have a read through all the discussions we had about the forum as we were creating it. It shows where our minds were/are at.
Way to be helpful and administrative, dude.
If you are serious about that then you should read the core values again. All admins do is clean up after spam and illegal content. We're janitors. Is it important to know who the janitors are?
Have a read through all the discussions we had about the forum as we were creating it. It shows where our minds were/are at.
oblivion
16th January 2012, 08:41 PM
the technical role of admin is to zorch spam and spammers, illegal content, and to remove members' personally identifying info if asked.
other than that, there is the occasional addition of nsfw tags and mashing config buttons on the admin panel.
"does it matter who the admins are?" is actually a good question. does it? why does it? what would be different with different admins?
other than that, there is the occasional addition of nsfw tags and mashing config buttons on the admin panel.
"does it matter who the admins are?" is actually a good question. does it? why does it? what would be different with different admins?
Adenosine
16th January 2012, 08:41 PM
If you feel that way then serve the fucking servants, man. Don't be a condescending jerk.
What's up your ass? Condescending jerk? Where?
What's up your ass? Condescending jerk? Where?
Gonzo
16th January 2012, 08:46 PM
Fuck this shit, DL. You should have just answered her.
Yeah, it matters who the admins are. Members shouldn't be expected to read the whole history of a forum. If they ask a question of who wields power (even if it's arbitrary in nature), those people should be there to answer them. Otherwise, what's the fucking point?
Unchecked power is tyranny. I want to know who the leaders are, I want to know what power they have, next time just be straight-forward about it.
Yeah, it matters who the admins are. Members shouldn't be expected to read the whole history of a forum. If they ask a question of who wields power (even if it's arbitrary in nature), those people should be there to answer them. Otherwise, what's the fucking point?
Unchecked power is tyranny. I want to know who the leaders are, I want to know what power they have, next time just be straight-forward about it.
Adenosine
16th January 2012, 08:51 PM
Strange G. I wanted to know why it mattered who the admins are. I didn't refuse to answer her. You're the one making this a thing. Unchecked tyranny? Yup, plenty of evidence of that since Mindromp started. Fucking people being banned, posts being deleted, warning given out all over the place.
You know what I've done since the membership grew? I installed the Mafia tags. Fuck, I'm worse than Hitler!
You know what I've done since the membership grew? I installed the Mafia tags. Fuck, I'm worse than Hitler!
divagreen
16th January 2012, 08:54 PM
Whoa...I am just asking who has access to admin tools.
Gonzo
16th January 2012, 08:55 PM
Strange G.
Is that new to you?
I wanted to know why it mattered who the admins are. I didn't refuse to answer her.
But you didn't answer her. you refused to answer by asking a question of your own. My position is that you should have answered her the way an admin is supposed to.
You're the one making this a thing.
Just observing your behavior and calling it out.
Unchecked tyranny?
Misquote.
Yup, plenty of evidence of that since Mindromp started. Fucking people being banned, posts being deleted, warning given out all over the place.
You know what I've done since the membership grew? I installed the Mafia tags. Fuck, I'm worse than Hitler!
Nothing close to what I've said. This is why I don't think you'll make a good admin.
Have you learned nothing from liv or vm? raven?
Shit.
Is that new to you?
I wanted to know why it mattered who the admins are. I didn't refuse to answer her.
But you didn't answer her. you refused to answer by asking a question of your own. My position is that you should have answered her the way an admin is supposed to.
You're the one making this a thing.
Just observing your behavior and calling it out.
Unchecked tyranny?
Misquote.
Yup, plenty of evidence of that since Mindromp started. Fucking people being banned, posts being deleted, warning given out all over the place.
You know what I've done since the membership grew? I installed the Mafia tags. Fuck, I'm worse than Hitler!
Nothing close to what I've said. This is why I don't think you'll make a good admin.
Have you learned nothing from liv or vm? raven?
Shit.
Gonzo
16th January 2012, 08:56 PM
Hey I like, DL, lots. We go way back. We're mafia bros. I just think he should show a little professionalism, is all.
Adenosine
16th January 2012, 09:08 PM
I don't think you're listening to me. I'm a janitor. I clean messes up. How much professionalism does that need?
Adenosine
16th January 2012, 09:09 PM
Okay, just so we're on the same page, tell me what you think an admin should do and should be?
Gonzo
16th January 2012, 09:10 PM
I'm good friends with several people on the janitorial staff of my place of work, and I would say it takes a great deal of professionalism, locky.
Gonzo
16th January 2012, 09:10 PM
I have to get ready for class, but I'll get back to you once I think it over some more :)
Adenosine
16th January 2012, 09:11 PM
I'm good friends with several people on the janitorial staff of my place of work, and I would say it takes a great deal of professionalism, locky.
locky?
locky?
divagreen
16th January 2012, 09:12 PM
the technical role of admin is to zorch spam and spammers, illegal content, and to remove members' personally identifying info if asked.
other than that, there is the occasional addition of nsfw tags and mashing config buttons on the admin panel.
"does it matter who the admins are?" is actually a good question. does it? why does it? what would be different with different admins?
It helps to know who has those tools in case personal info is revealed and a member would like it removed.
Is the protocol to mention something in the thread where the personal info is posted? Isn't that a public admission that the info is correct? Can this not be done privately to an admin?
eta: I also think it should be listed for transparency reasons wrt info distribution.
other than that, there is the occasional addition of nsfw tags and mashing config buttons on the admin panel.
"does it matter who the admins are?" is actually a good question. does it? why does it? what would be different with different admins?
It helps to know who has those tools in case personal info is revealed and a member would like it removed.
Is the protocol to mention something in the thread where the personal info is posted? Isn't that a public admission that the info is correct? Can this not be done privately to an admin?
eta: I also think it should be listed for transparency reasons wrt info distribution.
oblivion
16th January 2012, 09:39 PM
the technical role of admin is to zorch spam and spammers, illegal content, and to remove members' personally identifying info if asked.
other than that, there is the occasional addition of nsfw tags and mashing config buttons on the admin panel.
"does it matter who the admins are?" is actually a good question. does it? why does it? what would be different with different admins?
It helps to know who has those tools in case personal info is revealed and a member would like it removed.
Is the protocol to mention something in the thread where the personal info is posted? Isn't that a public admission that the info is correct? Can this not be done privately to an admin?
eta: I also think it should be listed for transparency reasons wrt info distribution.
I haven't gotten around to it yet because vacation rocks, but I want to add a link to the navbar that leads to the list of admins. do you think that would help?
re removing personal info, as things currently stand, we would document that we edited something in the ch-ch-changes thread. how do you think it should work?
other than that, there is the occasional addition of nsfw tags and mashing config buttons on the admin panel.
"does it matter who the admins are?" is actually a good question. does it? why does it? what would be different with different admins?
It helps to know who has those tools in case personal info is revealed and a member would like it removed.
Is the protocol to mention something in the thread where the personal info is posted? Isn't that a public admission that the info is correct? Can this not be done privately to an admin?
eta: I also think it should be listed for transparency reasons wrt info distribution.
I haven't gotten around to it yet because vacation rocks, but I want to add a link to the navbar that leads to the list of admins. do you think that would help?
re removing personal info, as things currently stand, we would document that we edited something in the ch-ch-changes thread. how do you think it should work?
Magicziggy
16th January 2012, 09:54 PM
Admin's log: stardate 08.22.17.01.2012
Grompulans are restless
Alert status: need coffee
Grompulans are restless
Alert status: need coffee
Fuzzy
16th January 2012, 09:57 PM
I need coffee, too. I ran the first tutorial of the semester this morning and it conflicts with the departmental morning coffee :doom:
nostrum
16th January 2012, 10:06 PM
Janitorial slave #XV98950 checking in for duty
Adenosine
16th January 2012, 11:10 PM
the technical role of admin is to zorch spam and spammers, illegal content, and to remove members' personally identifying info if asked.
other than that, there is the occasional addition of nsfw tags and mashing config buttons on the admin panel.
"does it matter who the admins are?" is actually a good question. does it? why does it? what would be different with different admins?
It helps to know who has those tools in case personal info is revealed and a member would like it removed.
Is the protocol to mention something in the thread where the personal info is posted? Isn't that a public admission that the info is correct? Can this not be done privately to an admin?
eta: I also think it should be listed for transparency reasons wrt info distribution.
That's a good point. And ob has a good solution.
other than that, there is the occasional addition of nsfw tags and mashing config buttons on the admin panel.
"does it matter who the admins are?" is actually a good question. does it? why does it? what would be different with different admins?
It helps to know who has those tools in case personal info is revealed and a member would like it removed.
Is the protocol to mention something in the thread where the personal info is posted? Isn't that a public admission that the info is correct? Can this not be done privately to an admin?
eta: I also think it should be listed for transparency reasons wrt info distribution.
That's a good point. And ob has a good solution.
divagreen
17th January 2012, 01:20 AM
I haven't gotten around to it yet because vacation rocks, but I want to add a link to the navbar that leads to the list of admins. do you think that would help?
Yes I do. :)
re removing personal info, as things currently stand, we would document that we edited something in the ch-ch-changes thread. how do you think it should work?
Scenario: If someone posted my name or place of work, I would like to PM an admin and have it removed ASAP. I suppose for the sake of consistency an admin should log it in the ch-ch-changes thread, as it now stands. It seems like that kind of paints a target on the person't who's personal info was paraded's head, though. (Is "paraded's head" even grammatically correct?)
Btw, this is the only issue on a predominently unmoderated site that I am pretty firm on. I just feel strongly about the freedom of speaking on a message board without having it dog every aspect of your life via what turns up in google.
Yes I do. :)
re removing personal info, as things currently stand, we would document that we edited something in the ch-ch-changes thread. how do you think it should work?
Scenario: If someone posted my name or place of work, I would like to PM an admin and have it removed ASAP. I suppose for the sake of consistency an admin should log it in the ch-ch-changes thread, as it now stands. It seems like that kind of paints a target on the person't who's personal info was paraded's head, though. (Is "paraded's head" even grammatically correct?)
Btw, this is the only issue on a predominently unmoderated site that I am pretty firm on. I just feel strongly about the freedom of speaking on a message board without having it dog every aspect of your life via what turns up in google.
Fuzzy
17th January 2012, 01:23 AM
Btw, this is the only issue on a predominently unmoderated site that I am pretty firm on. I just feel strongly about the freedom of speaking on a message board without having it dog every aspect of your life via what turns up in google.
Ditto. My mother googles me sometimes :noo:
Ditto. My mother googles me sometimes :noo:
maiforpeace
17th January 2012, 01:39 AM
...but who are the admins on this site?
I can't find where it is clearly outlined. :??:
Does it matter?
I don't think divagreen would have asked with a confused look :??:if it didn't matter to her. :dunno:
I can't find where it is clearly outlined. :??:
Does it matter?
I don't think divagreen would have asked with a confused look :??:if it didn't matter to her. :dunno:
charlou
17th January 2012, 01:40 AM
Btw, this is the only issue on a predominently unmoderated site that I am pretty firm on. I just feel strongly about the freedom of speaking on a message board without having it dog every aspect of your life via what turns up in google.
For this reason I am in favour of having a couple of areas that are closed to bots and guests .. I think the Rompus Room is a good candidate ...
I think it might be a good idea to close our Reports section to bots and guests ... although I like the idea of potential registrants being able to see how we do things here before signing up.
For this reason I am in favour of having a couple of areas that are closed to bots and guests .. I think the Rompus Room is a good candidate ...
I think it might be a good idea to close our Reports section to bots and guests ... although I like the idea of potential registrants being able to see how we do things here before signing up.
oblivion
17th January 2012, 01:56 AM
In a frenzied admin power trip, I've made the Rompus Room members-only. The idea keeps coming up, and so far it's gotten positive feedback every time.
I like the idea of making reports members-only, too. It's possible to set up the permissions so that non-members can see that a "reports" forum exists without being able to see the report threads. That might be a good compromise.
I like the idea of making reports members-only, too. It's possible to set up the permissions so that non-members can see that a "reports" forum exists without being able to see the report threads. That might be a good compromise.
nostrum
17th January 2012, 03:53 AM
^ sounds good.
Magicziggy
17th January 2012, 04:00 AM
At this stage... The ideas being generated are all good, not controversial and can be acted upon quickly by the resident power crazed admin... This is a good thing.
Grumps
19th January 2012, 06:03 AM
At this stage... The ideas being generated are all good, not controversial and can be acted upon quickly by the resident power crazed admin... This is a good thing.
Something about entropy and something something.
Something about entropy and something something.
charlou
19th January 2012, 06:28 AM
In a frenzied admin power trip, I've made the Rompus Room members-only. The idea keeps coming up, and so far it's gotten positive feedback every time.
I like the idea of making reports members-only, too. It's possible to set up the permissions so that non-members can see that a "reports" forum exists without being able to see the report threads. That might be a good compromise.
Update: The Rompus Room is not members only, but we now have a bot and guest free subforum of the Rompus Room (Mind Your Rompness) for that purpose.
I like the idea of making reports members-only, too. It's possible to set up the permissions so that non-members can see that a "reports" forum exists without being able to see the report threads. That might be a good compromise.
Update: The Rompus Room is not members only, but we now have a bot and guest free subforum of the Rompus Room (Mind Your Rompness) for that purpose.
oblivion
19th January 2012, 05:54 PM
Also, I've added that "Staff List" link to the navbar at the top of every page.
I think there's still a question of diva's that we need to think about, though. We want admin actions to be transparent, and we want the discussion of reports (i.e., of doing something to posts or threads) to be transparent.
So, if someone's personally identifying information is posted without their permission and they want it removed, how does the person go about it without drawing more attention to the info they want removed?
I think there's still a question of diva's that we need to think about, though. We want admin actions to be transparent, and we want the discussion of reports (i.e., of doing something to posts or threads) to be transparent.
So, if someone's personally identifying information is posted without their permission and they want it removed, how does the person go about it without drawing more attention to the info they want removed?
nostrum
19th January 2012, 05:59 PM
Perhaps admins switch on their email option and so that request can be private if preferred? The edit in the offending post would say personally identifying info removed, so transparency of action remains.
oblivion
19th January 2012, 06:09 PM
email or postcard message to an admin would work. I have it set up so I get an email about incoming PMs. :aaah:
charlou
20th January 2012, 03:05 AM
Yep ^ that.
Robert_S
20th January 2012, 04:40 AM
I am now doubting Adenosine's ability to be an admin, srsly. XD
Way to be helpful and administrative, dude.
If you are serious about that then you should read the core values again. All admins do is clean up after spam and illegal content. We're janitors. Is it important to know who the janitors are?
Have a read through all the discussions we had about the forum as we were creating it. It shows where our minds were/are at.
You're words are having a chilling effect on discourse here. Admin will just make and implement decisions, meanwhile the average forum user has no direct say. This will inevitably result in an authoritarian hierarchy.
Way to be helpful and administrative, dude.
If you are serious about that then you should read the core values again. All admins do is clean up after spam and illegal content. We're janitors. Is it important to know who the janitors are?
Have a read through all the discussions we had about the forum as we were creating it. It shows where our minds were/are at.
You're words are having a chilling effect on discourse here. Admin will just make and implement decisions, meanwhile the average forum user has no direct say. This will inevitably result in an authoritarian hierarchy.
oblivion
20th January 2012, 04:42 AM
:D
Grumps
20th January 2012, 05:01 AM
I am now doubting Adenosine's ability to be an admin, srsly. XD
Way to be helpful and administrative, dude.
If you are serious about that then you should read the core values again. All admins do is clean up after spam and illegal content. We're janitors. Is it important to know who the janitors are?
Have a read through all the discussions we had about the forum as we were creating it. It shows where our minds were/are at.
You're words are having a chilling effect on discourse here. Admin will just make and implement decisions, meanwhile the average forum user has no direct say. This will inevitably result in an authoritarian hierarchy.
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony
Way to be helpful and administrative, dude.
If you are serious about that then you should read the core values again. All admins do is clean up after spam and illegal content. We're janitors. Is it important to know who the janitors are?
Have a read through all the discussions we had about the forum as we were creating it. It shows where our minds were/are at.
You're words are having a chilling effect on discourse here. Admin will just make and implement decisions, meanwhile the average forum user has no direct say. This will inevitably result in an authoritarian hierarchy.
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony
Robert_S
20th January 2012, 07:10 PM
Perhaps the admin title ought to be changed to "janitorial staff".
I think it would help newcomers get a feel for the overall philosophy here and be a constant reminder of it for everyone else.
I think it would help newcomers get a feel for the overall philosophy here and be a constant reminder of it for everyone else.
oblivion
20th January 2012, 07:13 PM
I don't think any of the admins are actually using the admin user title. It's not a bad idea. I've kinda liked not having any bling at all associated with staff accounts.
Robert_S
20th January 2012, 07:58 PM
I meant up in the Staff List that the link leads to.
oblivion
20th January 2012, 08:13 PM
aah!
I like that idea.
I like that idea.
charlou
21st January 2012, 05:20 AM
Yep, me too.
Hermit
21st January 2012, 05:42 AM
I associate 'staff' with salaried workers. What about simply using 'janitors'?
Then again, the Popes like to call themselves humble fishermen, so...
Then again, the Popes like to call themselves humble fishermen, so...
nostrum
21st January 2012, 06:30 AM
janitors
+1 sounds wonderful!
+1 sounds wonderful!
charlou
21st January 2012, 06:37 AM
How about 'forum tools'? :D
MSG
21st January 2012, 06:39 AM
nah, they sound like they should be useful...
Adenosine
21st January 2012, 06:50 AM
How about 'forum tools'? :D
lol, this or janitors is good.
lol, this or janitors is good.
Jerome
21st January 2012, 07:29 AM
janitors
+1 sounds wonderful!
+ 4
+1 sounds wonderful!
+ 4
Robert_S
21st January 2012, 09:54 AM
I associate 'staff' with salaried workers. What about simply using 'janitors'?
Then again, the Popes like to call themselves humble fishermen, so...
Popes?!? Trolls the lot of them!
Then again, the Popes like to call themselves humble fishermen, so...
Popes?!? Trolls the lot of them!
Robert_S
21st January 2012, 10:29 AM
I'm honoured that you guys like my idea.
I can see both sides of the exchange between Gonzo and Adenosine at the beginning of this thread. On the one hand, there's a person picking up some tools and trying to help build and maintain something, and on the other there's a person with power over the medium we're communicating in.
It shouldn't matter who is and is not admin, but sometimes it can matter in ways that a person might not think of at first.
I can see both sides of the exchange between Gonzo and Adenosine at the beginning of this thread. On the one hand, there's a person picking up some tools and trying to help build and maintain something, and on the other there's a person with power over the medium we're communicating in.
It shouldn't matter who is and is not admin, but sometimes it can matter in ways that a person might not think of at first.
Orphia Nay
21st January 2012, 10:42 AM
I'm liking the way things get done here. :thumbsup:
Adenosine
21st January 2012, 11:52 AM
I'm honoured that you guys like my idea.
I can see both sides of the exchange between Gonzo and Adenosine at the beginning of this thread. On the one hand, there's a person picking up some tools and trying to help build and maintain something, and on the other there's a person with power over the medium we're communicating in.
It shouldn't matter who is and is not admin, but sometimes it can matter in ways that a person might not think of at first.
It was more of a philosophical question. I have found that admins influence the boards quite tangibly, people, consciously or subconsciously, follow their lead. I don't want that here. I want the members to follow their own leads. As long as it is true to our core values of course.
However diva did bring up a point that I hadn't thought of. In an emergency members need to know who to call to clean the eggs up and mop the floor.
It was a discussion I was interested in having, unfortunately it got acrimonious before it really got off the ground.
I can see both sides of the exchange between Gonzo and Adenosine at the beginning of this thread. On the one hand, there's a person picking up some tools and trying to help build and maintain something, and on the other there's a person with power over the medium we're communicating in.
It shouldn't matter who is and is not admin, but sometimes it can matter in ways that a person might not think of at first.
It was more of a philosophical question. I have found that admins influence the boards quite tangibly, people, consciously or subconsciously, follow their lead. I don't want that here. I want the members to follow their own leads. As long as it is true to our core values of course.
However diva did bring up a point that I hadn't thought of. In an emergency members need to know who to call to clean the eggs up and mop the floor.
It was a discussion I was interested in having, unfortunately it got acrimonious before it really got off the ground.
Reliant
21st January 2012, 01:20 PM
So the rule-less forum sets about setting up some rules?
Adenosine
21st January 2012, 01:24 PM
So the rule-less forum sets about setting up some rules?
What rules are you referring to?
What rules are you referring to?
oblivion
21st January 2012, 01:39 PM
I've renamed the links to "Janitors"
Hermit
21st January 2012, 01:45 PM
So the rule-less forum sets about setting up some rules?
Uhm, would you care to have a look at this (http://mindromp.org/)?
Uhm, would you care to have a look at this (http://mindromp.org/)?
Gonzo
21st January 2012, 02:46 PM
Okay, just so we're on the same page, tell me what you think an admin should do and should be?
As far as it concerns this forum a good admin should do as little as possible without first asking the community; follow the core values thing; and be as helpful to others as their position indicates they should be. Like it or not, you don't just have janitorial powers, you are a leader on the forum. Title dictates behavior. So acting like an admin would be to be equally helpful to everyone, especially when they are just posing questions about how the forum is run. If you are privy to information we are not, it needs to be shared when it concerns the whole community. As a leader you shouldn't belittle your role, you should fulfill it. Do the best job you can, even if your an admin with little control of what's said or done. This doesn't mean you can't be yourself, just that I hold you to the expectation that you will answer questions posed to you directly. Now, I haven't been an admin, and I haven't cared much to pay attention to the politics of Rationalia or TalkRational, but from my experience on :ff: I think livius sets a pretty good standard of being impartial when she is questioned and not letting her opinion keep her from assisting people. Is there a rule that says you have to act that way? No. I just prefer that style of leadership. One that is upfront and truthful, no beating around the bush. I think it could really make or break how successful this forum will be.
As far as it concerns this forum a good admin should do as little as possible without first asking the community; follow the core values thing; and be as helpful to others as their position indicates they should be. Like it or not, you don't just have janitorial powers, you are a leader on the forum. Title dictates behavior. So acting like an admin would be to be equally helpful to everyone, especially when they are just posing questions about how the forum is run. If you are privy to information we are not, it needs to be shared when it concerns the whole community. As a leader you shouldn't belittle your role, you should fulfill it. Do the best job you can, even if your an admin with little control of what's said or done. This doesn't mean you can't be yourself, just that I hold you to the expectation that you will answer questions posed to you directly. Now, I haven't been an admin, and I haven't cared much to pay attention to the politics of Rationalia or TalkRational, but from my experience on :ff: I think livius sets a pretty good standard of being impartial when she is questioned and not letting her opinion keep her from assisting people. Is there a rule that says you have to act that way? No. I just prefer that style of leadership. One that is upfront and truthful, no beating around the bush. I think it could really make or break how successful this forum will be.
Gonzo
21st January 2012, 04:02 PM
I've renamed the links to "Janitors"
oh, hey.
Well, then if title dictates behavior, it looks like you have new titles. :rolleyes:
oh, hey.
Well, then if title dictates behavior, it looks like you have new titles. :rolleyes:
oblivion
21st January 2012, 04:07 PM
I've renamed the links to "Janitors"
oh, hey.
Well, then if title dictates behavior, it looks like you have new titles. :rolleyes:
why would title dictate behavior? I'm not my job title online or off.
I think you have a good point about admins, will they or nil they, having an effect on tone via leadership. What the link is called doesn't change the role and responsibilities. And I do think part of my responsibility is to model behaviors that are consistent with our core values and responsibilities. I hope I'm doing ok in that area.
oh, hey.
Well, then if title dictates behavior, it looks like you have new titles. :rolleyes:
why would title dictate behavior? I'm not my job title online or off.
I think you have a good point about admins, will they or nil they, having an effect on tone via leadership. What the link is called doesn't change the role and responsibilities. And I do think part of my responsibility is to model behaviors that are consistent with our core values and responsibilities. I hope I'm doing ok in that area.
Gonzo
21st January 2012, 04:11 PM
No I love the forum so far, I think everything is going good. But Adenosine asked.
Best movie scenes and dialogues: Clerks - Does your title dictates your behavior? - YouTube
Best movie scenes and dialogues: Clerks - Does your title dictates your behavior? - YouTube
Reliant
21st January 2012, 05:25 PM
So the rule-less forum sets about setting up some rules?
Uhm, would you care to have a look at this (http://mindromp.org/)?
Cool. But what do you do with real asswipes when they turn up? They always seem to.
Uhm, would you care to have a look at this (http://mindromp.org/)?
Cool. But what do you do with real asswipes when they turn up? They always seem to.
Danny
21st January 2012, 05:28 PM
welcome them into the community?
charlou
22nd January 2012, 12:11 AM
So the rule-less forum sets about setting up some rules?
Uhm, would you care to have a look at this (http://mindromp.org/)?
Cool. But what do you do with real asswipes when they turn up? They always seem to.
Engage, or ignore .. just like I do anywhere. No biggie.
I generally get along okay with individuals that others seem to have a problem with.
I'm more concerned about the possibility of mob behaviour than anything an individual might do.
Uhm, would you care to have a look at this (http://mindromp.org/)?
Cool. But what do you do with real asswipes when they turn up? They always seem to.
Engage, or ignore .. just like I do anywhere. No biggie.
I generally get along okay with individuals that others seem to have a problem with.
I'm more concerned about the possibility of mob behaviour than anything an individual might do.
Danny
22nd January 2012, 12:12 AM
real asswipes are in the eye of the beholder.
Supernaut
22nd January 2012, 02:36 AM
real asswipes are in the eye of the beholder.
I prefer Cottonelle.
I prefer Cottonelle.
charlou
22nd January 2012, 03:34 AM
http://www.bobinoz.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Loo-Roll-2.jpg
nostrum
22nd January 2012, 03:41 AM
real asswipes are in the eye of the beholder.
I prefer Cottonelle.
sucker of marketing hype :smug: (I worked at Kimberly Clark)
I prefer Cottonelle.
sucker of marketing hype :smug: (I worked at Kimberly Clark)
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