what the fuck is mafia? page 1
oblivion
15th January 2012, 01:19 AM
Mafia started as a party game and has evolved into a text-based message board game of great subtlety strategy and meltdown. There are some excellent websites that describe the game and the various possible roles in excruciating detail.
http://mafiscum.net/wiki (my go-to source)
http://mafiagameswiki.com/mafiaWiki/Main_Page#About_Mafia_Games
another list of interesting roles: http://wikiguides.neoseeker.com/wiki/The%20Mafia%20Game/Roles
Sites where mafia is played regularly usually have some interesting and useful discussion threads, too. Here are some threads that may be useful.
TR's Mafia FAQ - http://talkrational.org/showthread.php?t=8703
FF's Mafia FAQ - http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9326
http://mafiscum.net/wiki (my go-to source)
http://mafiagameswiki.com/mafiaWiki/Main_Page#About_Mafia_Games
another list of interesting roles: http://wikiguides.neoseeker.com/wiki/The%20Mafia%20Game/Roles
Sites where mafia is played regularly usually have some interesting and useful discussion threads, too. Here are some threads that may be useful.
TR's Mafia FAQ - http://talkrational.org/showthread.php?t=8703
FF's Mafia FAQ - http://www.freethought-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9326
Magicziggy
15th January 2012, 02:17 AM
Mafia is addictive. Mafia is educational. It is both therapeutic and harmful. You should be warned of its potential to bring underlying paranoia to the surface.
I've learned a lot about myself through playing mafia. I have met interesting and thoughtful people. It is no coincidence that this forum will host mafia and that mafia players will come and play. It is not essential to play mafia to enjoy the spectacle. Mafia isn't the reason for the forum.
But it is fun!
I've learned a lot about myself through playing mafia. I have met interesting and thoughtful people. It is no coincidence that this forum will host mafia and that mafia players will come and play. It is not essential to play mafia to enjoy the spectacle. Mafia isn't the reason for the forum.
But it is fun!
Zigmen
15th January 2012, 04:21 PM
It is also important to note that newcomers are very welcome. We were all beginners once.
Your first game (or few games) will be a bit like a tutorial with other players helping you understand what is happening.
The learning curve for the game mechanics is pretty easy.
Also, many of us are happy to mentor you for a game or two, which means we would bow out of a game and shadow you, answering your questions and giving you pointers.
Don't hesitate to PM me if you'd like a mentor! I'm not that good of a player, but I have run a few games and have a basic understanding of the mechanics.
Your first game (or few games) will be a bit like a tutorial with other players helping you understand what is happening.
The learning curve for the game mechanics is pretty easy.
Also, many of us are happy to mentor you for a game or two, which means we would bow out of a game and shadow you, answering your questions and giving you pointers.
Don't hesitate to PM me if you'd like a mentor! I'm not that good of a player, but I have run a few games and have a basic understanding of the mechanics.
Facetious
15th January 2012, 08:03 PM
http://talkrational.org/showthread.php?t=38325
The above thread has some good tips on strategy for town, town specials and scum.
The above thread has some good tips on strategy for town, town specials and scum.
borealis
28th February 2012, 07:02 PM
Oblivion, http://mafiscum.net/wiki seems to have vanished. ???
Fuzzy
28th February 2012, 07:10 PM
:aaah:
borealis
28th February 2012, 07:24 PM
^ How I feel.
divagreen
28th February 2012, 07:25 PM
^ How I feel.
It might just be down for a bit.
It might just be down for a bit.
oblivion
28th February 2012, 07:26 PM
According to downforeveryoneorjustme.com the site is up
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/mafiascum.net
but I can't get to the forum or the wiki, so...hopefully it's a transient glitch.
http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/mafiascum.net
but I can't get to the forum or the wiki, so...hopefully it's a transient glitch.
oblivion
28th February 2012, 07:36 PM
AAH!
They are moving to a new server, I think. There is a temporary forum that mafiascum.net is now redirecting to: http://www.pnewman.net/shelter/index.php
They are moving to a new server, I think. There is a temporary forum that mafiascum.net is now redirecting to: http://www.pnewman.net/shelter/index.php
borealis
28th February 2012, 07:50 PM
Ah, thanks, ob.
All I was getting was 'file not found'. Then once I accidentally typed .com at the end. Don't do that, results not good.
All I was getting was 'file not found'. Then once I accidentally typed .com at the end. Don't do that, results not good.
rudeigineile
28th February 2012, 08:19 PM
I still don't know what it is. Something about pretending something or something is the gist I get. I'm very confused by the whole thing :??: Serious question, is this a mafia orientated site or does it just seem that way because of the current level of membership?
borealis
28th February 2012, 08:23 PM
Current level of membership is all. We're all quite capable and interested in talking about everything else.
it's likely still a small part of the membership that plays mafia.
it's likely still a small part of the membership that plays mafia.
rudeigineile
28th February 2012, 08:28 PM
Cool, :blinksmile: I've been feeling kind of like a teetotaler at a kegger.
borealis
28th February 2012, 08:36 PM
Nah, more like being in a crowd at the zoo. We mafia players are the animals you get to gawk at.
borealis
28th February 2012, 08:37 PM
But you should try it, it really is fun.
Bobby Arthur
28th February 2012, 08:40 PM
I still don't know what it is. Something about pretending something or something is the gist I get.
That's it. At the beginning everyone is secretly told whether they are a bad guy or a good guy. The bad guys know each other and can secretly communicate. The good guys know nothing, and have to converse in thread. Good guys try to figure out who the bad guys are and "eliminate" them. Bad guys pretend they're trying to help, but truly want to steer the mob the wrong way.
That's it. At the beginning everyone is secretly told whether they are a bad guy or a good guy. The bad guys know each other and can secretly communicate. The good guys know nothing, and have to converse in thread. Good guys try to figure out who the bad guys are and "eliminate" them. Bad guys pretend they're trying to help, but truly want to steer the mob the wrong way.
Magicziggy
29th February 2012, 09:02 AM
I still don't know what it is. Something about pretending something or something is the gist I get.
That's it. At the beginning everyone is secretly told whether they are a bad guy or a good guy. The bad guys know each other and can secretly communicate. The good guys know nothing, and have to converse in thread. Good guys try to figure out who the bad guys are and "eliminate" them. Bad guys pretend they're trying to help, but truly want to steer the mob the wrong way.
And we all take it far too seriously at one time or another.
Good explanation.
That's it. At the beginning everyone is secretly told whether they are a bad guy or a good guy. The bad guys know each other and can secretly communicate. The good guys know nothing, and have to converse in thread. Good guys try to figure out who the bad guys are and "eliminate" them. Bad guys pretend they're trying to help, but truly want to steer the mob the wrong way.
And we all take it far too seriously at one time or another.
Good explanation.
Free Falling
1st March 2012, 12:54 PM
I just don't get it. Seriously.
I tried a few games at another forum. It was fun, but nothing worth creaming my jeans over, or rushing home from work in time for last-minute speculation before nightfall.
Others seem to go batshit crazy over mafia; accusing others of cheating, leaving forums in a huff, calling folks at work. Seriously, WTF??
I tried a few games at another forum. It was fun, but nothing worth creaming my jeans over, or rushing home from work in time for last-minute speculation before nightfall.
Others seem to go batshit crazy over mafia; accusing others of cheating, leaving forums in a huff, calling folks at work. Seriously, WTF??
Adenosine
1st March 2012, 01:04 PM
I just don't get it. Seriously.
I tried a few games at another forum. It was fun, but nothing worth creaming my jeans over, or rushing home from work in time for last-minute speculation before nightfall.
Others seem to go batshit crazy over mafia; accusing others of cheating, leaving forums in a huff, calling folks at work. Seriously, WTF??
To really get it you need to win as scum, win as town and lose badly as both.
I tried a few games at another forum. It was fun, but nothing worth creaming my jeans over, or rushing home from work in time for last-minute speculation before nightfall.
Others seem to go batshit crazy over mafia; accusing others of cheating, leaving forums in a huff, calling folks at work. Seriously, WTF??
To really get it you need to win as scum, win as town and lose badly as both.
gib
1st March 2012, 01:06 PM
I just don't get it. Seriously.
I tried a few games at another forum. It was fun, but nothing worth creaming my jeans over, or rushing home from work in time for last-minute speculation before nightfall.
Others seem to go batshit crazy over mafia; accusing others of cheating, leaving forums in a huff, calling folks at work. Seriously, WTF??
which forum was that?
I tried a few games at another forum. It was fun, but nothing worth creaming my jeans over, or rushing home from work in time for last-minute speculation before nightfall.
Others seem to go batshit crazy over mafia; accusing others of cheating, leaving forums in a huff, calling folks at work. Seriously, WTF??
which forum was that?
oblivion
1st March 2012, 01:20 PM
RnR.
Adenosine
1st March 2012, 01:22 PM
RnR.
Oh. How long ago?
Oh. How long ago?
Fuzzy
1st March 2012, 01:40 PM
If they were my rnr games, they were pretty small and of questionable quality
Bobby Arthur
1st March 2012, 01:42 PM
Others seem to go batshit crazy over mafia; accusing others of cheating, leaving forums in a huff, calling folks at work. Seriously, WTF??
Well, we're talking about Shizzle, Ishmael, and some SC idiot, so...
Well, we're talking about Shizzle, Ishmael, and some SC idiot, so...
borealis
1st March 2012, 02:53 PM
Yeah, I don't think that would happen here. Or at TR. I can't think of anyone who plays on these two forums, or rats either, who take mafia that seriously.
Grumps
1st March 2012, 02:56 PM
Give it time.
borealis
1st March 2012, 02:58 PM
Grumps, I've been playing for several years at the above named forums and have never seen anything like what FF described. Ever.
oblivion
1st March 2012, 03:09 PM
well there was that one time I was called a big meany and I took a break from playing. :grin:
Facetious
1st March 2012, 03:36 PM
Yeah, I don't think that would happen here. Or at TR. I can't think of anyone who plays on these two forums, or rats either, who take mafia that seriously.
teeth?
teeth?
borealis
1st March 2012, 03:48 PM
well there was that one time I was called a big meany and I took a break from playing. :grin:
I'd say you are a big meany except I just won in DS, so you're awesome at the moment. :hehe:
I'd say you are a big meany except I just won in DS, so you're awesome at the moment. :hehe:
borealis
1st March 2012, 03:48 PM
Yeah, I don't think that would happen here. Or at TR. I can't think of anyone who plays on these two forums, or rats either, who take mafia that seriously.
teeth?
Pfft, all dentition and no bite marks,
teeth?
Pfft, all dentition and no bite marks,
oblivion
1st March 2012, 03:50 PM
Yeah, I don't think that would happen here. Or at TR. I can't think of anyone who plays on these two forums, or rats either, who take mafia that seriously.
teeth?
Pfft, all dentition and no bite marks,
Easy for a vampire to say.
teeth?
Pfft, all dentition and no bite marks,
Easy for a vampire to say.
borealis
1st March 2012, 03:59 PM
I am the standard against which all other toothy mafia players must now be measured. :stuckup:
Successful vampire and see sig.
I should change the sig now though. :(
Successful vampire and see sig.
I should change the sig now though. :(
Amok
2nd March 2012, 12:07 AM
Grumps, I've been playing for several years at the above named forums and have never seen anything like what FF described. Ever.
I've only seen it once, but it was my first game.
There was a huge fight between one of the players and the mod, and the mod not only cancelled the game but quit the forum (RatSkep).
I can't even remember what the fight was about, because I really didn't know the rules or lingo yet. I thought it was part of the game, at first.
I've only seen it once, but it was my first game.
There was a huge fight between one of the players and the mod, and the mod not only cancelled the game but quit the forum (RatSkep).
I can't even remember what the fight was about, because I really didn't know the rules or lingo yet. I thought it was part of the game, at first.
Jerome
2nd March 2012, 12:09 AM
it is just a fun game guys :hug:
oblivion
2nd March 2012, 12:20 AM
Grumps, I've been playing for several years at the above named forums and have never seen anything like what FF described. Ever.
I've only seen it once, but it was my first game.
There was a huge fight between one of the players and the mod, and the mod not only cancelled the game but quit the forum (RatSkep).
I can't even remember what the fight was about, because I really didn't know the rules or lingo yet. I thought it was part of the game, at first.
wow. that's *almost* worth asking for a link.
I can't imagine what would piss me off enough to cancel a game. Especially over one player. Unless the player broke the game, I guess.
I've only seen it once, but it was my first game.
There was a huge fight between one of the players and the mod, and the mod not only cancelled the game but quit the forum (RatSkep).
I can't even remember what the fight was about, because I really didn't know the rules or lingo yet. I thought it was part of the game, at first.
wow. that's *almost* worth asking for a link.
I can't imagine what would piss me off enough to cancel a game. Especially over one player. Unless the player broke the game, I guess.
borealis
3rd March 2012, 05:37 PM
Well, you've recently demonstrated a novel and amusing method of dealing with game breakers. Revenge being a dish best served cold and all.
oblivion
3rd March 2012, 06:11 PM
amusing, maybe. novel, no. It's been the time-honored approach at TR. I first saw it done that way in a cockrell game. If it's been done any other way there, I'm completely unaware.
borealis
3rd March 2012, 06:14 PM
I guess I've just never seen/noticed it before, since it was novel to me.
Nightson
4th March 2012, 01:56 AM
What's the method of dealing with game breakers?
borealis
4th March 2012, 02:20 AM
See Dark Shadows OP, at TR, limked earlier in this thread I think. Current game.
Jerome
4th March 2012, 02:58 AM
I was banned for 'zombie' play in the peanut gallery when I countered a 'live' player from gameplaying in the peanut gallery.
oblivion
4th March 2012, 03:59 AM
and for copying something from the scumboard and posting it in a thread while the game was still on.
Jerome
4th March 2012, 12:44 PM
and my scum team won. :thumbsup:
Floppit
5th March 2012, 05:15 PM
Do you need to really commit to daily attendance to play? I imagine you would.
borealis
5th March 2012, 06:02 PM
Do you need to really commit to daily attendance to play? I imagine you would.
generally game days run around 24 hours and nights 12 hours - some games are different or are adjusted towards endgame.
Bare minimum you have to be around once a day long enough to vote, and to PM the game manager if you have a night action.
people normally drop in long enough to read the game thread, suss out scum, defend themselves if necessary, and occasionally have a bit of play with whatever players are online. It can take minutes or hours a day, and the time spent is entirely up to you.
generally game days run around 24 hours and nights 12 hours - some games are different or are adjusted towards endgame.
Bare minimum you have to be around once a day long enough to vote, and to PM the game manager if you have a night action.
people normally drop in long enough to read the game thread, suss out scum, defend themselves if necessary, and occasionally have a bit of play with whatever players are online. It can take minutes or hours a day, and the time spent is entirely up to you.
Nightson
6th March 2012, 05:44 PM
Do you need to really commit to daily attendance to play? I imagine you would.
Honestly if you don't have a good amount of time during the day to devote to the game you're probably better off not playing the timed games.
Honestly if you don't have a good amount of time during the day to devote to the game you're probably better off not playing the timed games.
Bolero
7th March 2012, 12:00 AM
I've not played an untimed game before... How do they work?
Magicziggy
7th March 2012, 12:28 AM
You play until someone actually comes to your house and mows you down with a machine gun while you're bringing the shopping in.
Untimed games take a while.
Untimed games take a while.
oblivion
7th March 2012, 12:41 AM
the game day ends when the majority of players are on one bandwagon - and that player is lynched. It can take a while. The longest untimed game I've played lasted about 4 months.
Adenosine
7th March 2012, 12:56 AM
I've not played an untimed game before... How do they work?
Slowly. So very...very...slowly.
Slowly. So very...very...slowly.
borealis
7th March 2012, 02:48 AM
I'm not sure I have the patience for an untimed game.
oblivion
7th March 2012, 03:14 AM
untimed games are not good for my nerves.
Nightson
7th March 2012, 09:36 AM
It's hard to go from timed games to untimed games. Untimed games require more detachment from the plays an bandwagon building skills which aren't necessary in timed games.
el guapo verdadero
8th March 2012, 06:00 PM
It is both therapeutic and harmful. You should be warned of its potential to bring underlying paranoia to the surface.no joke, i honestly think that playing mafia has helped me to be less paranoid irl. if you're a person who has trust issues, the game will draw some intense reactions out of you at first. but by having your suspicions disproven repeatedly, it helps you to break the self-reinforcing and irrational mental habits of paranoia, and to add habits you might have been missing, like looking for reasons to trust people.
ksen
8th March 2012, 06:07 PM
no, none of that is true
el guapo verdadero
8th March 2012, 06:39 PM
ksen
UncaYimmy
13th April 2013, 10:54 AM
Current level of membership is all. We're all quite capable and interested in talking about everything else.
it's likely still a small part of the membership that plays mafia.
Still think that?
it's likely still a small part of the membership that plays mafia.
Still think that?
UncaYimmy
13th April 2013, 11:02 AM
Anyway, can't sleep, so I was trying to figure out the appeal of mafia. I'm still not seeing it. I understand that I would have to actually play to "get" it. What has me stumped is why anybody would have thought up this game in the first place and got others to join.
gib
13th April 2013, 12:27 PM
it started as a party game apparently
Jerome
13th April 2013, 01:42 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2YEjL5n3sU
UncaYimmy
13th April 2013, 02:52 PM
So, a bunch of people who got beat up in high school didn't have their D&D gear handy, so they decided to gather round a video a camera and, well...I still don't get the appeal.
Bolero
13th April 2013, 02:57 PM
So, a bunch of people who got beat up in high school didn't have their D&D gear handy, so they decided to gather round a video a camera and, well...I still don't get the appeal.
*shrug* I don't get the appeal of drag racing or cross-country skiing, but I understand there are people who like that sort of thing. Personally, I like murder mysteries, I like roleplaying, and I like using logic, so mafia does it for me.
*shrug* I don't get the appeal of drag racing or cross-country skiing, but I understand there are people who like that sort of thing. Personally, I like murder mysteries, I like roleplaying, and I like using logic, so mafia does it for me.
borealis
13th April 2013, 03:23 PM
mafia isn't a lot different than those murder mystery weekends people go to, only there are a team of murderers.
Bobby Arthur
13th April 2013, 09:13 PM
How do you do night in live mafia/werewolf? No, I'm not watching those fucking videos.
Bobby Arthur
13th April 2013, 09:17 PM
. Personally, I like murder mysteries, I like roleplaying, and I like using logic, so mafia does it for me.
Yeah, puzzle/problem-solving plus socializing with other nerds while killing time at work.
I don't get why people do the Twitter thing.
Yeah, puzzle/problem-solving plus socializing with other nerds while killing time at work.
I don't get why people do the Twitter thing.
UncaYimmy
13th April 2013, 09:58 PM
So, a bunch of people who got beat up in high school didn't have their D&D gear handy, so they decided to gather round a video a camera and, well...I still don't get the appeal.
*shrug* I don't get the appeal of drag racing or cross-country skiing, but I understand there are people who like that sort of thing. Personally, I like murder mysteries, I like roleplaying, and I like using logic, so mafia does it for me.
I can see the role playing aspect of it, which I don't find appealing. The logic part I wouldn't call logical I base that on reading some player-written articles about "tells" in the game. They are kinda silly.
I can get the appeal of drag racing even if I don't enjoy it. Going fast, watching things go fast, and loud noises get the adrenalin flowing. Cross-country skiing I can see for the physical challenge and solitude of it, even if it's not for me.
I guess it hinges on the role playing. The second the guy in the video told everyone it was dark/night and they closed their eyes, I groaned. When they started discussing who was what, the only "evidence" anyone had was the fat werewolf guy faking a snore after the werewolf went back to sleep. There was no basis to have any reasonable discussion about who played what, so to me the exercise became pointless.
*shrug* I don't get the appeal of drag racing or cross-country skiing, but I understand there are people who like that sort of thing. Personally, I like murder mysteries, I like roleplaying, and I like using logic, so mafia does it for me.
I can see the role playing aspect of it, which I don't find appealing. The logic part I wouldn't call logical I base that on reading some player-written articles about "tells" in the game. They are kinda silly.
I can get the appeal of drag racing even if I don't enjoy it. Going fast, watching things go fast, and loud noises get the adrenalin flowing. Cross-country skiing I can see for the physical challenge and solitude of it, even if it's not for me.
I guess it hinges on the role playing. The second the guy in the video told everyone it was dark/night and they closed their eyes, I groaned. When they started discussing who was what, the only "evidence" anyone had was the fat werewolf guy faking a snore after the werewolf went back to sleep. There was no basis to have any reasonable discussion about who played what, so to me the exercise became pointless.
Jerome
13th April 2013, 10:03 PM
For me it is the sorting into place, think of it like a jigsaw puzzle, or rather, a card game.
gib
13th April 2013, 10:12 PM
UY, the role playing aspect is minimal on these boards, and i couldn't even click on those youtubes, made me embarrassed for white people
in addition to what jerome said, it's also a chance to argue with people on a forum about something that does actually have a reveal at the end, is that making any sense. iow if i think you're town and jerome thinks you're scum, we can both call each other retards but there's a kinda payoff at the end
in addition to what jerome said, it's also a chance to argue with people on a forum about something that does actually have a reveal at the end, is that making any sense. iow if i think you're town and jerome thinks you're scum, we can both call each other retards but there's a kinda payoff at the end
UncaYimmy
14th April 2013, 01:42 AM
UY, the role playing aspect is minimal on these boards, and i couldn't even click on those youtubes, made me embarrassed for white people
in addition to what jerome said, it's also a chance to argue with people on a forum about something that does actually have a reveal at the end, is that making any sense. iow if i think you're town and jerome thinks you're scum, we can both call each other retards but there's a kinda payoff at the end
I don't begrudge anyone playing it. Calling someone a retard has a certain charm.
Help me get past the first day. On what are you basing your votes? Or are you just throwing stuff out there trying to get people to react?
in addition to what jerome said, it's also a chance to argue with people on a forum about something that does actually have a reveal at the end, is that making any sense. iow if i think you're town and jerome thinks you're scum, we can both call each other retards but there's a kinda payoff at the end
I don't begrudge anyone playing it. Calling someone a retard has a certain charm.
Help me get past the first day. On what are you basing your votes? Or are you just throwing stuff out there trying to get people to react?
Bobby Arthur
14th April 2013, 03:31 AM
first day sucks. I don't even try. Some people throw shit out to try to get a reaction.
UncaYimmy
14th April 2013, 04:59 AM
first day sucks. I don't even try. Some people throw shit out to try to get a reaction.
So at least I'm totally misunderstanding it. I thought I was missing something.
So at least I'm totally misunderstanding it. I thought I was missing something.
gib
14th April 2013, 02:36 PM
Help me get past the first day. On what are you basing your votes? Or are you just throwing stuff out there trying to get people to react?
partly throwing stuff out there, day one needs something to happen to kick things off. There's also an element of comparing notes - if half a dozen people think a player seems nervous or defensive (or one of the other stock scumtells) then voting to lynch that person is probably going to be a better choice than a random vote
partly throwing stuff out there, day one needs something to happen to kick things off. There's also an element of comparing notes - if half a dozen people think a player seems nervous or defensive (or one of the other stock scumtells) then voting to lynch that person is probably going to be a better choice than a random vote
gib
24th August 2014, 11:17 PM
I still don't know what it is. Something about pretending something or something is the gist I get.
That's it. At the beginning everyone is secretly told whether they are a bad guy or a good guy. The bad guys know each other and can secretly communicate. The good guys know nothing, and have to converse in thread. Good guys try to figure out who the bad guys are and "eliminate" them. Bad guys pretend they're trying to help, but truly want to steer the mob the wrong way.
And we all take it far too seriously at one time or another.
Good explanation.
yup
That's it. At the beginning everyone is secretly told whether they are a bad guy or a good guy. The bad guys know each other and can secretly communicate. The good guys know nothing, and have to converse in thread. Good guys try to figure out who the bad guys are and "eliminate" them. Bad guys pretend they're trying to help, but truly want to steer the mob the wrong way.
And we all take it far too seriously at one time or another.
Good explanation.
yup
spruce
14th December 2014, 08:43 PM
Help me get past the first day. On what are you basing your votes? Or are you just throwing stuff out there trying to get people to react?
partly throwing stuff out there, day one needs something to happen to kick things off. There's also an element of comparing notes - if half a dozen people think a player seems nervous or defensive (or one of the other stock scumtells) then voting to lynch that person is probably going to be a better choice than a random vote
If they sub out all of a sudden like, what does that mean? http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii269/theogrit/1sm032dunno.gif (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/theogrit/media/1sm032dunno.gif.html)
partly throwing stuff out there, day one needs something to happen to kick things off. There's also an element of comparing notes - if half a dozen people think a player seems nervous or defensive (or one of the other stock scumtells) then voting to lynch that person is probably going to be a better choice than a random vote
If they sub out all of a sudden like, what does that mean? http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii269/theogrit/1sm032dunno.gif (http://s266.photobucket.com/user/theogrit/media/1sm032dunno.gif.html)
nostrum
14th December 2014, 09:08 PM
:dinosaur:
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